Dallas officer kills man after mistaking apartment for her own, police say

[TXSooner518 2432]

3 minutes ago, conVINCEd said:

So I’m wondering where the line is going to be drawn on riots/no riots.  Acquittal will obviously result in riots.  A conviction on a lesser charge with minimal time or probation will probably get some level of riotous activity.  I’m thinking she needs to get at least 10 years in the hoosegow for downtown to remain relatively unscathed.

Nah. Felony conviction with prison time will do it, especially given that it will keep her from ever having a firearm or being LEO again, which should both occur.

[NeverMarryAStripper 21781]

I predict looting no matter what happens

[Skipper 6103]

3 minutes ago, hopkinsnhorns said:

I think you're overestimating the will of the people to risk life and limb rioting.  Protesting, sure.  Rioting - that's quite a stretch.

If she's found not guilty completely all bets are off.  But I think as long as she does SOME time things will be pretty calm.

[DaysOff 7853]

Too fucking hot to riot.

[irishtexan 11445]

So they haven't reached a verdict?

[Trey3216 15325]

1 minute ago, DaysOff said:

Too fucking hot to riot.

Crime and riots happen more often when it's hot, unless you're Jussie Smollett.  

[hopkinsnhorns 533]

I hope this isn't relevant today.

[TwiceHorn 31295]

What is the current state of the law about what jurors can know about the range of punishment, availability of probation, good time, and parole?

[Gene Parmesan 3993]

I think rioting will be pretty minimal regardless.  Protesting for sure but not rioting.  Not saying there won't be some, but minimal.

[hopkinsnhorns 533]

Verdict pending.

 

https://twitter.com/MeritLaw/status/1179056759966765057

Edited October 1, 2019 by hopkinsnhorns

[bluto 4894]

Looks like they’re starting to set things up in the courtroom

[77horn 216]

Guyger just came in

[BigDHornfan 6542]

My guess is manslaughter.  5-10 

[Homercles 10205]

Link?

[Orange&White 5516]

Just now, BigDHornfan said:

My guess is manslaughter.  5-10 

This is about where I am at.

[77horn 216]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TS7Cdj8lpY

 

[Homercles 10205]

 

[hopkinsnhorns 533]

That is quite the necklace, Your Honor.

[Trey3216 15325]

Wow.  Guilty of murder!!!

[hookem17 485]

Holy shit. Murder. 

[hopkinsnhorns 533]

guilty of murder!

[Gooby 633]

Murder

Holy shit

[Braff Zacklin 13425]

Thank goodness.

[Fuck Tim Beck 3806]

I hope this puts all cops on notice. 

Looking at you Art 

[Tailgate 3018]

Justice was served!

[BlueGreySky 1000]

Holy fucking shit.

[Orange&White 5516]

Wow! 

[Brisketexan 104635]

Holy.  Fuck.

Gotta admit, I'm blown away.  Even though I -- for the first time -- thought there was a path to guilty once the testimony came out that she knew there was something up inside the apartment, and then consciously CHOSE to make entry (that is, she wasn't surprised AFTER she entered the apartment....I still didn't think they'd come back with guilty on murder.

Outstanding.

[kevwun 15658]

Sometimes there is justice.  I still can't believe she admitted to hearing someone in the apartment before she went in.  That is what sealed it.

[Huckleberry 32704]

Well holy shit.

[irishtexan 11445]

Just now, Fuck Tim Beck said:

I hope this puts all cops on notice. 

Looking at you Art 

Only when they're off duty breaking into someone else's home and murdering them.

[Huckleberry 32704]

Just now, kevwun said:

Sometimes there is justice.  I still can't believe she admitted to hearing someone in the apartment before she went in.  That is what sealed it.

Agreed in that it's what would have sealed it for me if I were on the jury. That fact changed everything. Even on this thread you will see that I had said I could actually believe she was surprised by the whole deal, but then I heard that testimony. And that fact meant she had the opportunity to avoid the confrontation completely.

[Orange&White 5516]

Now, does that lock in a specific sentence or does the jury get to decide that?

[Texas_Rocks 346]

Defeated?

[kevwun 15658]

So what kind of sentence is she looking at?

[Fuck Tim Beck 3806]

Just now, irishtexan said:

Only when they're off duty breaking into someone else's home and murdering them.

Very true. But I never in a million years thought she'd be found guilty of murder 

[tokamak 6352]

Upset of the millenium. Absolutely stunning result.

[Huckleberry 32704]

1 minute ago, irishtexan said:

Only when they're off duty breaking into someone else's home and murdering them.

What about when they double tap a dude in his own home based on a completely made up search warrant? I hope this sets a precedent for Gerald Goines, at least.

[BigDHornfan 6542]

Just now, kevwun said:

So what kind of sentence is she looking at?

5-99

[Tailgate 3018]

Suicide watch starts now.

[Homercles 10205]

Just now, kevwun said:

So what kind of sentence is she looking at?

Commentator said 5-99.  There’s be family testimony then the jury decides from what I heard.  

[77horn 216]

Just now, Orange&White said:

Now, does that lock in a specific sentence or does the jury get to decide that?

Judge said (presumably to the jury), you're going to have a long lunch break, then....

[gsoda3 3237]

8 women and 4 men.  didn't expect 8 women. 

[HenryJames 65890]

2 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Gotta admit, I'm blown away. 

[Gooby 633]

People cheering outside the courtroom while she just sat there and had to hear it all.  Brutal.

[TwiceHorn 31295]

2 minutes ago, Orange&White said:

Now, does that lock in a specific sentence or does the jury get to decide that?

5-99 no probation/deferred.  Jury sentenced unless judge is chosen to do so.

[gsoda3 3237]

justice but what a hollow victory.  so many lives destroyed.

[hookem17 485]

Just now, gsoda3 said:

8 women and 4 men.  didn't expect 8 women. 

Surprising. Maybe mothers feeling sympathy for Jean’s parents. 

[DaysOff 7853]

I'm behind, but she's still just sitting there.

[pepper brooks 579]

pretty shocked they got to "murder" here, but I would lean on saying that in this case if they were going to get it wrong on one side or the other I am more comfortable with murder than innocence.  What I mean is "not guilty and walk" would not have been acceptable to me.  You are responsible for every bullet that leaves your gun.  I cannot believe this situation deserved not guilty.  even if you made an "honest mistake" an innocent man is dead.  that should not go unpunished IMO.  On the other hand, I do not believe this girl murdered this guy based on what I have read and followed.  Had I been on the jury I think I would have voted for manslaughter and 15-20 and somewhere near whatever the max is for the offense.  I am still more okay with murder than not guilty, but I think murder is a reach.