Dallas officer kills man after mistaking apartment for her own, police say

['stache 22,131]

Lol, "All Lives Matter," unless I've been working all day and think you're in my apartment when you're really not.  

['stache 22,131]

21 minutes ago, Mojo Hand said:

Looks to me like he's making "p.d.," as in police department, though I've never heard of such a handsign before. 

I thought it was "double loose butthole."  As in, "You killed a guy in his own apartment?  Total loose butthole, bro.  Double loose butthole."

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23 minutes ago, Mojo Hand said:

Looks to me like he's making "p.d.," as in police department, though I've never heard of such a handsign before. 

Perhaps he's displaying his nipple play technique for the dwarven granny next to him.

[bernorange 8,385]

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An investigator says a Dallas police officer who shot and killed her neighbor after mistaking his apartment for her own said that when she inserted her key in his door, it opened because it had been slightly ajar.

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https://apnews.com/25044e46567e4f6591d5c30a612cc64a/The-Latest:-Affidavit:-Cop-said-neighbor's-door-was-ajar

You don't bother to close your front door, much less lock it, you are basically inviting the worst elements of society to stick a broom handle up your ass.  #Grendeled

[DigDug 1,738]

Guyger said the person ignored her verbal commands and she fired twice

Ah, there its ladies and gents.

The guy in his own apartment minding his business did not immediately respond to the intruders commands.

Only one choice, bang bang muthafucka. 

[yoshi 137]

What a slap in the face to this guy's family.  Playing the didn't comply with commands card.  I guarantee that never happened anyway.  I have no connection to any of this and I'm even insulted.  Fucking cops.

[SameSame 1,751]

The affidavit says Guyger was on the phone with 911 reporting the shooting when she turned on the apartment lights and discovered she was in the wrong apartment.

Are 911 calls normally released to the public before trial?  Everybody is going to want to hear that one.

[Brisketexan 106,874]

6 minutes ago, DigDug said:

 

 

Ah, there its ladies and gents.

The guy in his own apartment minding his business did not immediately respond to the intruders commands.

Only one choice, bang bang muthafucka. 

 

2 minutes ago, yoshi said:

What a slap in the face to this guy's family.  Playing the didn't comply with commands card.  I guarantee that never happened anyway.  I have no connection to any of this and I'm even insulted.  Fucking cops.

Yeah....that's a pretty stunning angle.

I gotta tell you, some fucker busts into my house in the dark of night hollering at me, I'm probably not too keen on responding to his/her commands either.

i 100% guarantee you that the "law and order" crowd of apologists will be trotting out the "if you comply with the cop's commands, you won't get shot.  This is all on him" card promptly.

[yoshi 137]

3 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

 

Yeah....that's a pretty stunning angle.

I gotta tell you, some fucker busts into my house in the dark of night hollering at me, I'm probably not too keen on responding to his/her commands either.

i 100% guarantee you that the "law and order" crowd of apologists will be trotting out the "if you comply with the cop's commands, you won't get shot.  This is all on him" card promptly.

Exactly and that's why they are taking that defense.  Get a couple of apologists on the jury and they have it made.  Like I said, it's an insult.

[Pato del Muerto 53,451]

So she goes into an apartment that’s not hers with no warrant or probable cause. That’s trespassing. No way the door was ajar, btw.

Then she shoots basically a shadow, because the lights are out. Maybe she identifies herself as a cop, maybe not.  She couldn’t tell if he had a weapon or was a threat, because dark.  If the citizenry is expected to believe that anyone bursting through their door barking orders is a cop, then why don’t criminals to this to gain advantage when robbing folks?

ignorance is no excuse, right?  I get popped going 55 in a 45 and tell the cop I thought the limit was 55, they don’t tip their caps and let me on my way.  I thought I was within my rights isn’t supposed to be a valid defense.  I thought I was sober!  I thought I was going the right way on the highway!  I thought that baggie was full of powdered sugar!  I thought she said “don’t stop,” not “don’t!  Stop!”

Edited September 10, 2018 by Pato del Muerto

[Vic Mackey 47,951]

This story has so many fucking holes.

[Deej 77,806]

So does the decedent.

[C-Man 27,777]

15 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

So she goes into an apartment that’s not hers with no warrant or probable cause. That’s trespassing. No way the door was ajar, btw.

Then she shoots basically a shadow, because the lights are out. Maybe she identifies herself as a cop, maybe not.  She couldn’t tell if he had a weapon or was a threat, because dark.  If the citizenry is expected to believe that anyone bursting through their door barking orders is a cop, then why don’t criminals to this to gain advantage when robbing folks?

ignorance is no excuse, right?  I get popped going 55 in a 45 and tell the cop I thought the limit was 55, they don’t tip their caps and let me on my way.  I thought I was within my rights isn’t supposed to be a valid defense.  I thought I was sober!  I thought I was going the right way on the highway!  I thought that baggie was full of powdered sugar!  I thought she said “don’t stop,” not “don’t!  Stop!”

The door was either unlocked or slightly ajar, yes? That's the only way she gets in without him opening the door for her.

[bernorange 8,385]

I wonder if the electronic key card system that the apartment complex uses is a "smart" system that logs door status in a database - open, closed, locked, unlocked.  If so, would be very interested to know what was recorded for the victim's door the night in question.

[burntorangebongos 10,826]

Is this a case to call in the Texas Rangers on? There response is to slow things down then not take any action but back out of it completely? Why didn't they tell Dallas PD to deal with it themselves in the first place?

[TwiceHorn 32,071]

8 minutes ago, bernorange said:

I wonder if the electronic key card system that the apartment complex uses is a "smart" system that logs door status in a database - open, closed, locked, unlocked.  If so, would be very interested to know what was recorded for the victim's door the night in question.

If it's a key card, perhaps that makes more sense than a key.  With a keyed lock, I assume the key would fit, but not turn, while the knob might if unlocked.  That would be a weird feeling.  But if you insert a card somewhere, you are expecting the knob to turn so there's still little or no indication that you are in the wrong place.

Edit:  I see it was a chipped key, not a key card.

Any way you slice it, though, she was pretty quick on the trigger, and that quickness probably exposes her to a felony conviction, even if she doesn't spend a day in jail.

 

Here's the arrest warrant.  It is sworn out by a Texas Ranger, so it is probably not your standard thin blue line deal.

Edited September 10, 2018 by TwiceHorn

[Auto Driller 2,566]

The first 50% of the arrest warrant reads like it was written by her defense attorney. No thin blue line, my ass.

Edited September 10, 2018 by Auto Driller

[Vic Mackey 47,951]

44 minutes ago, Deej said:

So does the decedent.

Didn't she only hit him once? 

[SameSame 1,751]

48 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

 If the citizenry is expected to believe that anyone bursting through their door barking orders is a cop, then why don’t criminals to this to gain advantage when robbing folks?

 

Happens all the time, all the time.

[TwiceHorn 32,071]

28 minutes ago, Auto Driller said:

The first 50% of the arrest warrant reads like it was written by her defense attorney. No thin blue line, my ass.

Actually, there's nothing terribly controversial until the last sentence.  That accepts her stated belief as what happened.  That is the closest to thin blue line there is here.

 

It's all subject to proof, and it's not exactly like there were a bunch of witnesses to interview.

[DigDug 1,738]

14 minutes ago, SameSame said:

Happens all the time, all the time.

[SameSame 1,751]

58 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

If it's a key card, perhaps that makes more sense than a key.  With a keyed lock, I assume the key would fit, but not turn, while the knob might if unlocked.  That would be a weird feeling.  But if you insert a card somewhere, you are expecting the knob to turn so there's still little or no indication that you are in the wrong place.

Edit:  I see it was a chipped key, not a key card.

Any way you slice it, though, she was pretty quick on the trigger, and that quickness probably exposes her to a felony conviction, even if she doesn't spend a day in jail.

 

Here's the arrest warrant.  It is sworn out by a Texas Ranger, so it is probably not your standard thin blue line deal.

That arrest warrant lists one excuse after the other.  

If this trial is held outside of Dallas County, my bold prediction is she skates.  And if she skates, this city will riot.  It will not be pretty, big time.

[TwiceHorn 32,071]

2 minutes ago, SameSame said:

That arrest warrant lists one excuse after the other.  

If this trial is held outside of Dallas County, my bold prediction is she skates.  And if she skates, this city will riot.  It will not be pretty, big time.

Well, because by necessity it comes straight from her.  Who is going to contradict her? 

[Pancho 46,268]

Man something is just off with this story. 

[Pam Cummings 9,867]

3 hours ago, 'stache said:

Lol, "All Lives Matter," unless I've been working all day and think you're in my apartment when you're really not.  

Was just gonna say, quite an ironic shirt considering how trigger happy the chick ended up being.

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7 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

Was just gonna say, quite an ironic shirt considering how trigger happy the chick ended up being.

Come now... everything was black and white. He was black, she was white.

[Deej 77,806]

They'll find some law saying it is illegal to leave your door unlocked while black. Totally the victims fault.

[Stunns38 3,805]

Man something is just off with this story. 

I think it’ll circle back at they knew each other, were fucking, she was batshit and he cut it off. Then she went on a psycho tirade, lost it and murdered him.

Military and cop chicks have a good chance of being cray from my experience.

[Pancho 46,268]

 

[Guest Lobo]

What were the verbal commands, Officer Guyger?  If you remember it all so saliently...what exactly was said?  Make sure it sounds like something you'd say if it was you entering your own apartment at night.  and not just you stumbling upon a "perp"...

[Deej 77,806]

What fucking basis did she have to give a legal command? Guy is in his domicile. She enters illegally. 

[SuingToGetAMessageBoard? 3,871]

I was fine with manslaughter.  Now I’m pissed just reading about her “he failed to recognize my authority over him in the dark room I broke into based on my stupidity” blaming shit.  Now I want her to fry.  

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1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

Well, because by necessity it comes straight from her.  Who is going to contradict her? 

I don’t know anything about arrest warrants but I can’t imagine it is SOP to take at face value every exculpatory fact the killer can come up with and include it on the sworn affidavit of another officer.  

It’s not even “the suspect claims she immedialty administered CPR” or “the suspect admits to shooting the victim and claims it was dark” and whatever.  It’s just “this is what happened.”

[Vic Mackey 47,951]

Fuck this stupid bitch and now spinning this and victim blaming. Sad thing is, a jury is going to buy this made up shit and she might never do any time.

Also, was that pic of the cop and the victim not legit as in it wasn't her? I'm reading from some that it wasn't and they still don't have any reason to believe they knew each other prior.

[Brisketexan 106,874]

Welp, she's getting off.  This is Texas.  There will be at least one super cop-apologist on the jury, they'll never convict, because that boy shoulda obeyed the commands of an officer of the LAW.

We're done here.

[Deej 77,806]

4 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Welp, she's getting off.  This is Texas.  There will be at least one super cop-apologist on the jury, they'll never convict, because that boy shoulda obeyed the commands of an officer of the LAW.

We're done here.

Then I hope the protesters burn Dallas down. 

[Pato del Muerto 53,451]

25 minutes ago, Deej said:

Then I hope the protesters burn Dallas down. 

So long as nobody kneels. 

[burntorangebongos 10,826]

If these were two civilians and this same scenario happened, she would get charged with manslaughter, imo.  As a cop, it gets murky. We want to think that the police are better trained and equipped to handle being startled or confused but that isn't the case and it is costing lives.

Also, late at night with your door ajar is a booty call you are waiting on. He was expecting someone, it seems to me. I'm not saying her but someone. The unlocked door cost him his life because this woman got scared and pulled the trigger super fast before fully assessing the situation. 

I think I would have reached for the light after announcing I'm police with a gun in my hand.  I'd want to know what I was shooting at. What if it was my sister who I gave a key to or a neighbor or a friend...I'd want to know what the fuck before I pulled the trigger.

[Stella Link 535]

And here are the Dallas protests....

https://www.wfaa.com/video/news/local/dallas-county/protests-in-dallas-after-botham-jean-shooting/287-8247353

 

 

[texas08 1,599]

Brisket is right, this bitch serves no time. Nothing to see here.

Are 95% of cops retarted?

30 hrs of community college work? Here’s a gun and a badge. Pathetic standards.

[Doc Reeves 6,434]

It’s a goddamn shame he didn’t kill her first

[NeverMarryAStripper 22,277]

He’d be on death row right now if he had.

[Guest]

The question is, does Dallas have the personality/demographic to riot and go berserk when she gets off a la Baltimore and Ferguson? Do people see St. Lucian as fundamentally different than American black?

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[PilotsError 2,336]

There is zero chance the door was ajar. Unlocked? Sure. I have no doubt her rep repeatedly told her the door was ajar. Right, officer? Right? It was ajar.

[elnimo 55]

She's not even going to get indicted.  Fucking cunt. 

[SameSame 1,751]

4 hours ago, Vic Mackey said:

Fuck this stupid bitch and now spinning this and victim blaming. Sad thing is, a jury is going to buy this made up shit and she might never do any time.

Also, was that pic of the cop and the victim not legit as in it wasn't her? I'm reading from some that it wasn't and they still don't have any reason to believe they knew each other prior.

They didn't know each other.  She was simply a weak ditz issued a firearm with no larger understanding or care of her role.

[Foggy Notion 1,202]

3 hours ago, PilotsError said:

There is zero chance the door was ajar. Unlocked? Sure. I have no doubt her rep repeatedly told her the door was ajar. Right, officer? Right? It was ajar.

One time me and three friends dropped acid and drove around in my dad’s car. He has one of those talking cars, we’re tripping, and the car goes, “The door is ajar.” We pulled over and thought about that for 12 hours. “How can a door be a jar?” … “Why would they put a jar on a car?” … “Oh man, the freeway’s melting!” … “Put it in the jar."

[Steel Shank 9,552]

The warrant states she t that she's in the wrong apartment?urns on the light and when 911 operator asks where she is, she goes to the door to get the # and discovers she's in the wrong apartment. You mean turning on the light in someone else's apartment doesn't clue this idiot cop in that she's in the wrong apartment?

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13 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

The point is, when you're in the thick of it, you ain't exactly a deadeye.

Tell that to all the limp-dicked concealed carry Rambo wannabes.

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5 hours ago, OatmealRaisinCookie said:

The question is, does Dallas have the personality/demographic to riot and go berserk when she gets off a la Baltimore and Ferguson? Do people see St. Lucian as fundamentally different than American black?

I don't know if they will riot, but they do have the "lone wolf goes berserk" contingent.  Especially when it comes to cops killing black folks.

If this cunt skates, I wouldn't blame them one bit for going off.