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Except, Texas couldn’t beat A&M this season and lost 80% of the rest of the games they played against the SEC.

theoneandonly
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3-1 OU Final

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If Texas can beat Tech, A&M can.  I would guess A&M actually has a better ERA, Batting Average, and Scoring compared to Texas.  All of this against a tougher schedule resulting in a better rec

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4 hours ago, X-Wing @Aliciousness said:

So tcu is just in full on suck mode now huh?

Ok St has now won 11 of 12 since losing their first series in Austin. Frustratingly impressive.

Okie State still has OU, BU, and TT left so they are not out of the woods yet.(non conference weekend with Iowa as well)

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Okie State still has OU, BU, and TT left so they are not out of the woods yet.(non conference weekend with Iowa as well)

Exactly and Tech seems to be enjoying batting practice lately. Regardless we’ve played much, much better than I expected out of us during noncon.
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School Big 12   Overall Pct.
Oklahoma State 12 - 3   23 - 14 - 1 .618
Texas 11 - 4   28 - 15 .651
Texas Tech 10 - 5   32 - 9 .780
Oklahoma 10 - 5   27 - 15 .643
TCU 6 - 8   19 - 17 .528
Baylor 6 - 9   22 - 17 .564
West Virginia 4 - 8   19 - 18 .514
Kansas 3 - 11   19 - 20 .487
Kansas State 3 - 12   17 - 23 .425
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X-Wing @Aliciousness

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35 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

B&E were saying 36 wins and top 2 in the Big 12 should set up a regional host slot.  Any truth to that?

That would mean Texas wins 8 of its final 12 games w series @WVU, @tech and tcu.  You would think Texas's rpi following a performance like that would reflect a top 16 ranking.  Barring a conf tourney 0-2 or 1-2 performance, I think Texas could safely assume its role as a host if that were to happen.

Last year, Texas finished 5th in the conference with a losing record, but still almost hosted because of their strong conf tournament run.  So nothing is guaranteed until we see how the last 14-15 games go I guess.

If Texas can pull off a conf regular season and tournament championship (albeit, not an odds on favorite to do so), no question they're a top 8 national seed.  Not that we're getting ahead of ourselves or anything...

 

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1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

B&E were saying 36 wins and top 2 in the Big 12 should set up a regional host slot.  Any truth to that?

Seems right to me. 

Win all the remaining non-conference games (Houston, Texas State X 2)

2-1 vs WV, 1-2 vs Tech, and 3-0 or 2-1 vs TCU. I think that puts Texas in the top 2 in the Big 12 and gives them a chance to host. The Big 12 is down this year but it's still the #2 RPI conference. 

Our metrics are about to jump in these next 2 weeks if we can just win a few games. Especially with WV and Tech on the road......all of those will likely be group 1/tier 1 wins. 

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The other thing to remember is there are a few teams ahead of us in RPI that I don't think will host. 

A&M for example is 9-9 in the SEC and they close with @ Miss State, Florida, @ Arkansas, South Carolina. There's a very good chance A&M finishes 2 or 3 games below .500 in the SEC. There's a couple other SEC teams like Kentucky, Missouri and Vanderbilt that are in same boat. 

All these SEC teams that finish around .500 in conference or below .500 aren't going to host. 

 

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Team has set itself up nicely to earn a regional or not. 

And don’t bet on the committee not awarding regionals to middling sec teams, especially if they had a good nonconference record. 

Then they can match those regionals up with Florida, arky, and another top 8 sec regional to really set the conference up to get at least 2 to the cws. 

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And don’t bet on the committee not awarding regionals to middling sec teams, especially if they had a good nonconference record. 

'17 SEC regional hosts: LSU (21-9), Arkansas (18-11), Florida (21-9), Kentucky (19-11)

'16 SEC regional hosts: LSU (19-11), A&M (20-10), South Carolina (20-9), Florida (19-10), Vanderbilt (18-12), Ole Miss (18-12), Miss State (21-9)

'15 SEC regional hosts: LSU (21-8), A&M (18-10), Florida (19-11), Vanderbilt (20-10)

'14 SEC regional hosts: LSU (17-11-1), South Carolina (18-12), Florida (21-9), Vanderbilt (17-13), Ole Miss (19-11) 

There's going to be some high RPI SEC teams that don't host because of their conference record. In year's past, finishing around .500 in the SEC has not been good enough to host.

There are 8 SEC teams currently in the RPI top 25 and I bet they get a max of 5 regional hosts this year. 

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Boyd's  Needs Report,   fwiw.

http://www.boydsworld.com/baseball/rpi/rpineeds.html

 

Texas

Remaining: 7 home, 6 road, 0 neutral
Current RPI: 34
ROWP: 0.575

Top 45:

0 home wins, 6 road wins
1 home wins, 5 road wins
2 home wins, 4 road wins
3 home wins, 3 road wins
4 home wins, 2 road wins
5 home wins, 1 road wins
6 home wins, 0 road wins

Top 32:

3 home wins, 5 road wins
4 home wins, 4 road wins
5 home wins, 3 road wins
6 home wins, 2 road wins
7 home wins, 1 road wins

Top 16:

7 home wins, 6 road wins

Top 8:

No way to reach the threshold.
 

Texas A&M

Remaining: 9 home, 7 road, 0 neutral
Current RPI: 15
ROWP: 0.584

Top 45:

0 home wins, 4 road wins
1 home wins, 3 road wins
2 home wins, 2 road wins
3 home wins, 1 road wins
4 home wins, 0 road wins

Top 32:

0 home wins, 7 road wins
1 home wins, 6 road wins
2 home wins, 4 road wins
3 home wins, 3 road wins
4 home wins, 2 road wins
5 home wins, 1 road wins
6 home wins, 0 road wins

Top 16:

4 home wins, 7 road wins
5 home wins, 6 road wins
6 home wins, 5 road wins
7 home wins, 3 road wins
8 home wins, 2 road wins
9 home wins, 1 road wins

Top 8:

6 home wins, 7 road wins
7 home wins, 6 road wins
8 home wins, 4 road wins
9 home wins, 3 road wins
 

Texas Christian

Remaining: 11 home, 6 road, 0 neutral
Current RPI: 83
ROWP: 0.530

Top 45:

9 home wins, 6 road wins
10 home wins, 5 road wins
11 home wins, 4 road wins

Top 32:

11 home wins, 6 road wins

Top 16:

No way to reach the threshold.

Top 8:

No way to reach the threshold.
 

Texas Tech

Remaining: 6 home, 8 road, 0 neutral
Current RPI: 3
ROWP: 0.587

Top 45:

No more wins needed.

Top 32:

No more wins needed.

Top 16:

0 home wins, 4 road wins
1 home wins, 3 road wins
2 home wins, 2 road wins
3 home wins, 1 road wins
4 home wins, 0 road wins

Top 8:

0 home wins, 7 road wins
1 home wins, 5 road wins
2 home wins, 4 road wins
3 home wins, 3 road wins
4 home wins, 2 road wins
5 home wins, 0 road wins

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X-Wing @Aliciousness

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19 hours ago, torre said:

Boyd's  Needs Report,   fwiw.

http://www.boydsworld.com/baseball/rpi/rpineeds.html

 

Texas

Remaining: 7 home, 6 road, 0 neutral
Current RPI: 34
ROWP: 0.575

Top 45:

0 home wins, 6 road wins
1 home wins, 5 road wins
2 home wins, 4 road wins
3 home wins, 3 road wins
4 home wins, 2 road wins
5 home wins, 1 road wins
6 home wins, 0 road wins

Top 32:

3 home wins, 5 road wins
4 home wins, 4 road wins
5 home wins, 3 road wins
6 home wins, 2 road wins
7 home wins, 1 road wins

Top 16:

7 home wins, 6 road wins

Top 8:

No way to reach the threshold

 

Oof. bitter pill to swallow hearing that a national seed is impossible and a regional host is basically impossible.

As another poster said, it doesn't take into account conference tournaments.  Also, at least imo, depending on who it's against, Texas can bolster a host resume without winning all 13 of 13 games.  Would probably take winning the conference though, or getting outright second and not being swept by Tech.

Also, and this is completely hypothetical as the odds are astronomical, but if Texas went 13-0 to end the season and finished 41-15 before the tournament (with a big 12 championship assuming Ok St doesn't win the remainder of their games either), I'd find it very hard to believe that Texas wouldn't get a national seed with that record and a road series sweep against Tech to boot.  Then again, it's probably not best to deal in hypotheticals

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The committee does not go straight RPI when determining regional hosts. I would have to go back and look at the history of RPI to determine how often teams outside of the top 16 in RPI are regional hosts. 

But there's been a couple examples in recent history that I can remember off the top of my head.

Coastal Carolina in '16 finished 12th in RPI and didn't host. I believe Virginia ended up being the host at around 20 in RPI. http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/sports/college/sun-belt/coastal-carolina-university/article80713962.html

There were a lot of people upset a couple years ago about UC Santa Barbara hosting. I can't remember where they finished in RPI, but I believe it was in the low 20s. They went 0-2 in their regional so that's the only reason I remember that one. 

Maybe those are just anomalies. I would have to look deeper into RPI and regional hosts. 

 

 

 

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Also, based on history the conference winner of the 2nd best RPI conference almost always hosts. 

Florida '17 (regional host)

Miss State '16 (regional host)

Louisville '15 (regional host)

OK State '14 (regional host)

Vanderbilt '13 (regional host)

Florida State '12 (regional host)

Virginia '11 (regional host)

Arizona State '10 (regional host)

Florida State '09 (regional host)

Arizona State '08 (regional host)

Texas '07 (regional host)

That's as far back as Warren Nolan goes in terms of conference RPI rankings. If we won the Big 12, we would be the first team in 11 years to win the 2nd best RPI conference and not host. 

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Tuesday (4/24):

West Virginia vs Marshall (WVU 11-10)

Baylor @ Texas State (BU 17-5)

Wichita State @ Kansas (WSU 14-5)

Oklahoma State @ Dallas Baptist (OSU 4-2)

Texas Tech @ Arkansas (ARK 5-1)

Oklahoma @ UT Arlington (OU 11-5)

Houston @ Texas (UT 9-4)

Stephen F Austin @ TCU (TCU 15-5)

 

Wednesday (4/25):

Texas Tech @ Arkansas

Kansas State @ Omaha

 

 

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Ugh, and now WVU's rpi dropped after beating Marshall last night.

The Mountaineers are not very good and, from the looks of it, have some shoddy pitching, but can hit the ball.  If Texas doesn't win at least 2 of 3 in that series, the hosting chances could be kaput.  Then again, it's probably going to come down to how we play in the @Tech series regardless

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Feltman and Luken Baker were also teammates in high school at Oak Ridge.

 

They are pretty much the only two mofos in purple that i hope do well...and that hasn't happened for Baker this year.

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Standings after today's games.

Team Record Pct Home Away Neutral Streak Record Pct Home Away Neutral Streak
Oklahoma State 15-3 .833 7-0 6-3 2-0 W7 27-14-1 .655 12-7-1 13-7 2-0 W7
Texas 12-6 .667 8-1 4-5 0-0 L2 30-17 .638 22-7 7-10 1-0 L2
Texas Tech 11-7 .611 7-2 4-5 0-0 L1 33-12 .733 21-2 11-10 1-0 L1
Oklahoma 10-8 .556 7-2 3-4 0-2 L3 28-18 .609 22-7 5-7 1-4 L3
Baylor 9-9 .500 6-3 3-6 0-0 W6 26-17 .605 15-6 9-9 2-2 W10
TCU 8-9 .471 6-3 2-6 0-0 W1 22-18 .550 16-8 6-9 0-1 W1
West Virginia 6-9 .400 5-4 1-5 0-0 W2 22-19 .537 12-6 8-11 2-2 W2
Kansas 3-11 .214 1-4 2-7 0-0 L5 19-24 .442 15-9 4-15 0-0 L11
Kansas State 3-15 .167 2-7 1-8 0-0 L3 18-26 .409 11-13 6-11 1-2 L3
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