Cruz vs Beto

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20,913]

On 7/27/2018 at 9:05 PM, SubliminalHorn said:

He should have just said when Texans are out cheering on their football teams. It was good, but could have resonated more

 

He also needs to create the contrast better, by starting out with "Unlike Ted Cruz, I was born and raised in Texas. Because of that, I understand that many Texans are cheering for their high school football teams on Friday night, just as I did in El Paso...."

My slogan for Beto:

"Texas born, Texas bred, and when I die, I'll be Texas dead."



 

[Orca of Peace 109]

2 minutes ago, relapse98 said:

Yep. Evangelicals love a guy that admits watching pr0n to the entire world via twitter.

they have a lot in common but then again, who doesn't like porn?

[Larry T. Spider 1,747]

I think the gerrymandering will actually start to work against republicans soon. The districts are drawn to take advantage of large suburban areas that have been red for the last 25 years. They are on the front line of change and will soon be blue if trends continue. We also haven’t seen significant democratic investment in Texas yet in terms of money and organization. Don’t get me wrong, this isn’t going to happen tomorrow. When I said a few election cycles, I’m talking 10-12 years. Maybe sooner if Dems continue to find compelling candidates.

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20,913]

3 minutes ago, Orca of Peace said:

they have a lot in common but then again, who doesn't like porn?

Evangelicals.

[Orca of Peace 109]

Just now, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

Evangelicals.

they like the kinky stuff

[Mojo Hand 4,580]

40 minutes ago, Larry T. Spider said:

It’s all about liberal tears, not actually liking the guy that you voted for. 

It is, but the reason why is that it's a perverse expression of their own impotence.  Their obsession with cucks, worship for a dominating authoritarian like Trump, and support for a sniveling wimp like Cruz who curls at the feet of the man who punked his wife and father — it's all related.   And the idea that libs are getting owned and dominated is just another voyeuristic fantasy. 

The funny thing is that the actual libs they're fantasizing about are doing just fine, while the Trump and Cruz voters are getting fucked every which way.  Which is part of the perverse cycle of impotence driving their whole pathology. 

There are self-respecting people voting for Cruz for purely political/ideological reasons, but they aren't happy about it, and are pretty disgusted to have that Canadian pansy representing the great state of Texas.    Anyone voting for Cruz who's actually happy about it and cheering Beto's loss is the political equivalent of the gimp from pulp fiction. 

Edited July 29, 2018 by Mojo Hand

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8 minutes ago, Mojo Hand said:

It is, but the reason why is that it's a perverse expression of their own impotence.  Their obsession with cucks, worship for a dominating authoritarian like Trump, and support for a sniveling wimp like Cruz who curls at the feet of the man who punked his wife and father — it's all related.   And the idea that libs are getting owned and dominated is just another voyeuristic fantasy. 

The funny thing is that the actual libs they're fantasizing about are doing just fine, while the Trump and Cruz voters are getting fucked every which way.  Which is part of the perverse cycle of impotence driving their whole pathology. 

There are self-respecting people voting for Cruz for purely political/ideological reasons, but they aren't happy about it, and are pretty disgusted to have that Canadian pansy representing the great state of Texas.    Anyone voting for Cruz who's actually happy about it and cheering Beto's loss is the political equivalent of the gimp from pulp fiction. 

Cruz renounced his Canadian citizenship in 2014. Wasn't his fault where he was born to an American parent. 

 

http://time.com/2854513/ted-cruz-canadian-citizenship/

[SubliminalHorn 7,009]

10 minutes ago, Orca of Peace said:

Cruz renounced his Canadian citizenship in 2014. Wasn't his fault where he was born to an American parent. 

 

http://time.com/2854513/ted-cruz-canadian-citizenship/

Oh holy shit thanks for the breaking update!

 

[Mojo Hand 4,580]

11 minutes ago, Orca of Peace said:

Cruz renounced his Canadian citizenship in 2014. Wasn't his fault where he was born to an American parent. 

 

http://time.com/2854513/ted-cruz-canadian-citizenship/

That's true. Plus he's a strong supporter of Israel, so he isn't all bad! 

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1 minute ago, Mojo Hand said:

That's true. Plus he's a strong supporter of Israel, so he isn't all bad! 

yes, it's offensive to call him a Canadian and no reason why any pro Israeli Jew would vote against him. Evangelicals, white supremacists and Jews should all vote for Ted Cruz. 

[Larry T. Spider 1,747]

Just now, Orca of Peace said:

yes, it's offensive to call him a Canadian and no reason why any pro Israeli Jew would vote against him. Evangelicals, white supremacists and Jews should all vote for Ted Cruz. 

And cucks 

[Mojo Hand 4,580]

2 minutes ago, Orca of Peace said:

yes, it's offensive to call him a Canadian and no reason why any pro Israeli Jew would vote against him. Evangelicals, white supremacists and Jews should all vote for Ted Cruz. 

And yet most Jews vote and donate against him and other staunchly pro-Israel Republicans each election.  It's almost as if they are actual individuals who consider many issues and don't vote in lockstep based on the biases you perceive.   

[Orca of Peace 109]

3 minutes ago, Mojo Hand said:

And yet most Jews vote and donate against him and other staunchly pro-Israel Republicans each election.  It's almost as if they are actual individuals who consider many issues and don't vote in lockstep based on the biases you perceive.   

that will change as the Democrats are slowly becoming anti Israel. There's no reason for Jews to be Democrats anymore as Israel is by far their # 1 issue. As wealthy people who don't need protection as minorities, value wealth preservation, don't need social programs, the logical choice would be with the Republicans and many are switching - which i find to be the logical step for them. 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13,729]

2 minutes ago, Orca of Peace said:

that will change as the Democrats are slowly becoming anti Israel. There's no reason for Jews to be Democrats anymore as Israel is by far their # 1 issue. As wealthy people who don't need protection as minorities, value wealth preservation, don't need social programs, the logical choice would be with the Republicans and many are switching - which i find to be the logical step for them. 

You’re painting the Jewish population to be singularly focused on issues related to Israel.   I thought many oppose the current Israeli leadership so they don’t blindly support Israel policies.  

[Mojo Hand 4,580]

9 minutes ago, Orca of Peace said:

that will change as the Democrats are slowly becoming anti Israel. There's no reason for Jews to be Democrats anymore as Israel is by far their # 1 issue. As wealthy people who don't need protection as minorities, value wealth preservation, don't need social programs, the logical choice would be with the Republicans and many are switching - which i find to be the logical step for them. 

And yet, that's completely false, because your assumptions are false and skewed by your own biases:

And

"Israel was the "most important" voting issue for a mere 4% of respondents in the Public Religion Research Institute's 2012 Jewish Values survey. Israel was one of two top "voting issue priorities" for just 10% in a J Street poll conducted around the same time. More recently, "U.S.-Israel relations" was the most important issue for only 7.2% in the American Jewish Committee's 2015 study of Jewish American opinion, ranking fifth behind "economy" (41.7%), "national security" (12.3%), "healthcare" (12%), and "income inequality" (11.6%). It was the second and the third-most important issue for only 7.6% and 11.1%, respectively."

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-bronitsky-jewish-vote-20161029-story.html

Back to the Cruz discussion, you're just not smart enough to pull off the "I always vote Dem but defend Republicans" troll routine.   We get it, you're one of the gimps hooking on to the leash with Cruz.  

Edited July 29, 2018 by Mojo Hand

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19 minutes ago, Orca of Peace said:

that will change as the Democrats are slowly becoming anti Israel. There's no reason for Jews to be Democrats anymore as Israel is by far their # 1 issue. As wealthy people who don't need protection as minorities, value wealth preservation, don't need social programs, the logical choice would be with the Republicans and many are switching - which i find to be the logical step for them. 

Ohai.  Generalize much?  NM.  But thanks for pointing out the next logical step for me, I guess.  

[Mojo Hand 4,580]

3 minutes ago, M12BH said:

Ohai.  Generalize much?  NM.  But thanks for pointing out the next logical step for me, I guess.  

No kidding.  Jews driven by "wealth preservation" isn't even code. 

[Orca of Peace 109]

33 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

You’re painting the Jewish population to be singularly focused on issues related to Israel.   I thought many oppose the current Israeli leadership so they don’t blindly support Israel policies.  

it's a small minority that is critical, groups such as Jewish Voices for Peace. 

[Celery Man 21,097]

describe the criticality of this group

[Orca of Peace 109]

32 minutes ago, Mojo Hand said:

And yet, that's completely false, because your assumptions are false and skewed by your own biases:

And

"Israel was the "most important" voting issue for a mere 4% of respondents in the Public Religion Research Institute's 2012 Jewish Values survey. Israel was one of two top "voting issue priorities" for just 10% in a J Street poll conducted around the same time. More recently, "U.S.-Israel relations" was the most important issue for only 7.2% in the American Jewish Committee's 2015 study of Jewish American opinion, ranking fifth behind "economy" (41.7%), "national security" (12.3%), "healthcare" (12%), and "income inequality" (11.6%). It was the second and the third-most important issue for only 7.6% and 11.1%, respectively."

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-bronitsky-jewish-vote-20161029-story.html

Back to the Cruz discussion, you're just not smart enough to pull off the "I always vote Dem but defend Republicans" troll routine.   We get it, you're one of the gimps hooking on to the leash with Cruz.  

they will shun Democrats who have these liberal values but are critical of Israel -- such as Jimmy Carter, Keith Ellison, Cynthia McKinney (who became target #1 years ago) and even super liberal Bernie Sanders.  There's no reason for them to be Democrats anymore. As for wealth, minorities with wealth tend to gravitate towards the Republicans. Like I said, suppose Keith Ellison has become the chair of the DNC and implemented a platform hostile to Israel and the Dem candidate for POTUS was hostile, i think we'd see a dramatic change. Suppose a candidate said "stop all aid to Israel and impose strict economic sanctions" , i'm sure the ranking would go from #5 to #1 pretty quickly.

you really should vote for Cruz, it's in your best interests. 

[Ted Lange 16,412]

If Isreal is more important to you than Texas, by all means vote for Canadian Cruz.

[Mojo Hand 4,580]

9 minutes ago, Orca of Peace said:

they will shun Democrats who have these liberal values but are critical of Israel -- such as Jimmy Carter, Keith Ellison, Cynthia McKinney (who became target #1 years ago) and even super liberal Bernie Sanders.  There's no reason for them to be Democrats anymore. As for wealth, minorities with wealth tend to gravitate towards the Republicans. Like I said, suppose Keith Ellison has become the chair of the DNC and implemented a platform hostile to Israel and the Dem candidate for POTUS was hostile, i think we'd see a dramatic change. Suppose a candidate said "stop all aid to Israel and impose strict economic sanctions" , i'm sure the ranking would go from #5 to #1 pretty quickly.

you really should vote for Cruz, it's in your best interests. 

The American Jewish community is lucky to have you around to tell them the issues that they actually care about, in defiance of consistent polling data and voting patterns. 

The funny thing is that you're such a bad troll that you don't even realize that you're giving the alt-right argument for why Jews vote Dem.   The leftist argument is completely different. 

[David Dennison 19,536]

1 hour ago, Orca of Peace said:

that will change as the Democrats are slowly becoming anti Israel. There's no reason for Jews to be Democrats anymore as Israel is by far their # 1 issue. As wealthy people who don't need protection as minorities, value wealth preservation, don't need social programs, the logical choice would be with the Republicans and many are switching - which i find to be the logical step for them. 

Being anti-settlements is not anti-Israel.

[Pancho 46,301]

If you’ve reached a point in your life where you are actively defending Ted Cruz, then you’ve hit rock bottom and need to reevaluate things.

[Celery Man 21,097]

Anyone at St Elmo last night?  Surprised at the number of Circle C/Oak Hill folks getting up to organize events there.  Although Oak Hill is a weird split too.

[Orca of Peace 109]

8 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Being anti-settlements is not anti-Israel.

Israeli society, which is majority far right now,  would call you anti-semite 

[Mojo Hand 4,580]

Listen to this man, he's an expert on the Jews. 

[David Dennison 19,536]

Just now, Orca of Peace said:

Israeli society, which is majority far right now,  would call you anti-semite 

I don't care.

[Orca of Peace 109]

15 minutes ago, Mojo Hand said:

The American Jewish community is lucky to have you around to tell them the issues that they actually care about, in defiance of consistent polling data and voting patterns. 

The funny thing is that you're such a bad troll that you don't even realize that you're giving the alt-right argument for why Jews vote Dem.   The leftist argument is completely different. 

suppose we have a 48 year old youthful Jimmy Carter who 

1. is for healthcare

2. economic equality

3. education

4. all other liberal items that were listed in that poll

so far so good right?

but 

5. wants to end all aid to Israel, impose strict sanctions, and put Israeli leaders up for trial under the Geneva Convention. 

So US Jews vote for Jimmy Carter? (who btw is very hostile to Israel and has even befriended Hamas)

Now all of a sudden, item #5 (US relations with Israel) isn't so far down the list anymore. 

 

[David Dennison 19,536]

1 minute ago, Orca of Peace said:

suppose we have a 48 year old youthful Jimmy Carter who 

1. is for healthcare

2. economic equality

3. education

4. all other liberal items that were listed in that poll

so far so good right?

but 

5. wants to end all aid to Israel, impose strict sanctions, and put Israeli leaders up for trial under the Geneva Convention. 

So US Jews vote for Jimmy Carter? (who btw is very hostile to Israel and has even befriended Hamas)

Now all of a sudden, item #5 (US relations with Israel) isn't so far down the list anymore. 

 

Anyone who openly supports number 5 will never be the Democratic nominee.

[Message Board User 12,405]

Isn't a good chunk of the MAGAs anti-Semites and neo-Nazis?

i can't imagine why the Jews would vote against that...

[Celery Man 21,097]

[Mojo Hand 4,580]

Just now, Message Board User said:

Isn't a good chunk of the MAGAs anti-Semites and neo-Nazis?

i can't imagine why the Jews would vote against that...

It's something shared by the ultra-extreme right and ultra-extreme left, which is why an alt-right troll posing as a lib, like Orca, can't help but show his ass on the subject. 

[David Dennison 19,536]

Just now, Mojo Hand said:

It's something shared by the ultra-extreme right and ultra-extreme left, which is why an alt-right troll posing as a lib, like Orca, can't help but show his ass on the subject. 

Except the ultra-extreme left is anti-Israel, not anti-semite. Those are two different things no matter what Israelis think. The ultra-left has no problem with Jews as Jews. The ultra-right is about white supremacy.

[Mojo Hand 4,580]

2 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Except the ultra-extreme left is anti-Israel, not anti-semite. Those are two different things no matter what Israelis think. The ultra-left has no problem with Jews as Jews. The ultra-right is about white supremacy.

I agree that anti-Israel and anti-semitic are distinct, and that many on the left who are critical of Israel are not anti-semitic, but you're wrong that there isn't a significant amount of anti-semitism on the ultra-extreme left. 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

5 minutes ago, Mojo Hand said:

I agree that anti-Israel and anti-semitic are distinct, and that many on the left who are critical of Israel are not anti-semitic, but you're wrong that there isn't a significant amount of anti-semitism on the ultra-extreme left. 

The crazies on the left and right love their Jewish big money corporatist global conspiracy theories.

[David Dennison 19,536]

7 minutes ago, Mojo Hand said:

I agree that anti-Israel and anti-semitic are distinct, and that many on the left who are critical of Israel are not anti-semitic, but you're wrong that there isn't a significant amount of anti-semitism on the ultra-extreme left. 

Because everybody hates the Jews.

Sigh.

Edited July 29, 2018 by David Dennison

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3 hours ago, Larry T. Spider said:

It’s all about liberal tears, not actually liking the guy that you voted for. 

T-shirt fans.

[Hank Scorpio 17,924]

Jew talk not going away. 

[Brisketexan 106,889]

What an awesome troll conversation. Here’s why the trump/Cruz wing lost ground with American Jews, and will never, ever get it back: when fucking Nazis rallied in Charlottesville, and actually killed someone, Trump said there were good people on both sides.

American Jews are pretty fucking wary of fucking Nazis. And the trump wing openly courts, coddles, and contains actual fucking Nazis.

Jews will vote against the folks who align with Nazis. It’s kinda their thing.

Man, the alt-right trolling is at least getting humorous in its pathetic-ness, so that’s fun.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

The kids in cages thing and the attacks on the media also don’t sit well with Jews I imagine.

[Message Board User 12,405]

 

[RDCanecutter 26,883]

Just now, Message Board User said:

 

[JimmyJames 12,271]

Ya know. I’m starting to think this orca peace guy might actually be a troll.

He seems to be very knowledgeable about two subjects: (1) the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and (2) NBA basketball.

yep, definitely a guy who lived his whole life in Texas. 

[Radical Larry 28,820]

H34TX/towerhorn

[Mojo Hand 4,580]

10 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

Ya know. I’m starting to think this orca peace guy might actually be a troll.

He seems to be very knowledgeable about two subjects: (1) the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and (2) NBA basketball.

yep, definitely a guy who lived his whole life in Texas. 

He's a staunch Dem, but is urging us to vote Cruz and is very concerned about lib violence against Trump supporters.   Seems legit. 

[Grandioso 2,592]

Except the ultra-extreme left is anti-Israel, not anti-semite. Those are two different things no matter what Israelis think. The ultra-left has no problem with Jews as Jews. The ultra-right is about white supremacy.

Noam Chomsky is basically the entire lesson in this point.


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[Chooky 13,340]

57 minutes ago, Message Board User said:

 

Coasting in the left lane.  Beto stahp!

[Orca of Peace 109]

1 hour ago, Mojo Hand said:

He's a staunch Dem, but is urging us to vote Cruz and is very concerned about lib violence against Trump supporters.   Seems legit. 

dumb reply. It's in your best interest to vote Cruz, the Jewish Texan vote won't matter much in numbers anyway, so do what's best for you.  I am against violence against Trump because it makes the left look bad. Of course I'm against violence by the Super Patriot crowd too, but don't care if that makes them look bad in the public eye.

[Orca of Peace 109]

2 hours ago, Mojo Hand said:

I agree that anti-Israel and anti-semitic are distinct, and that many on the left who are critical of Israel are not anti-semitic, but you're wrong that there isn't a significant amount of anti-semitism on the ultra-extreme left. 

typical propaganda. There is hardly any antisemitism from the ultra left, it's coming from the ultra ultra right such as David Duke, neo nazis, Aryan Nation. The ultra left are commie/anarchists such as antifa.