Cruz vs Beto

[hobbes2702 13049]

14 minutes ago, berlinerbaer said:

Ted has the numbers advantage, so his strategy is to play it safe. Considering who is registered and who generally shows up to vote, he gets to be his usual, shitty self. The base is all that counts and everyone else can fuck right off. 

Beto knows he only wins by appealing to as many different types of people as possible. Mission accomplished, although his task is still daunting.

Overall, I give Beto the nod, since he gains name recognition just by being on the tube or the radio, and name recognition is what he's still lacking.

Beto is likely going to lose but he has laid out the strategy moving forward. It will take more than one guy and probably more name recognition to really flip a Texas seat but he’s shown how to be competitive 

[MaybeACoordinator 8349]

1 minute ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

Twitter verdicts are about as meaningful as aggy polls. Is Twitter gonna get out the Hispanic vote in the Valley? 

[happyfunball 481]

Beto lost.

 

He is appealing to disengaged voters in his message but almost none of those voters are watching the debates. He played into Cruz liberal scare story. Beto message works door to door but not in this format. He needs to come across as a moderate and came across as a scary liberal.

 

I agree with his position but he needs to refute the too liberal for Texas story line in the debates.

 

Beto scores a lot of style points but lost on message. I don’t get why he is so focused all criminal reform in his message. That isn’t a winning issue for reliable voters.

 

[horncyclist 1391]

Beto lost.
 
He is appealing to disengaged voters in his message but almost none of those voters are watching the debates. He played into Cruz liberal scare story. Beto message works door to door but not in this format. He needs to come across as a moderate and came across as a scary liberal.
 
I agree with his position but he needs to refute the too liberal for Texas story line in the debates.
 
Beto scores a lot of style points but lost on message. I don’t get why he is so focused all criminal reform in his message. That isn’t a winning issue for reliable voters.
 

I don't think you understand his whole campaign. He's talking about criminal justice reform because our criminal justice system is one of the greatest injustices in our history. He doesn't care how it polls. It's important so he's speaking up. Leading. It's that honesty that is whole appeal. He starts putting a moderate gloss or filtering what he thinks, he's done.

[David Dennison 18940]

10 minutes ago, happyfunball said:

Beto lost.

He is appealing to disengaged voters in his message but almost none of those voters are watching the debates. He played into Cruz liberal scare story. Beto message works door to door but not in this format. He needs to come across as a moderate and came across as a scary liberal.

I agree with his position but he needs to refute the too liberal for Texas story line in the debates.

Beto scores a lot of style points but lost on message. I don’t get why he is so focused all criminal reform in his message. That isn’t a winning issue for reliable voters.

Scary liberals are going to run the state someday. Beto is the vanguard of that army.

And he should talk about criminal justice reform. The criminal justice system in this country is a disgrace.

[MaybeACoordinator 8349]

2 minutes ago, horncyclist said:

11 minutes ago, happyfunball said:

Beto lost.
 
He is appealing to disengaged voters in his message but almost none of those voters are watching the debates. He played into Cruz liberal scare story. Beto message works door to door but not in this format. He needs to come across as a moderate and came across as a scary liberal.
 
I agree with his position but he needs to refute the too liberal for Texas story line in the debates.
 
Beto scores a lot of style points but lost on message. I don’t get why he is so focused all criminal reform in his message. That isn’t a winning issue for reliable voters.
 

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I don't think you understand his whole campaign. He's talking about criminal justice reform because our criminal justice system is one of the greatest injustices in our history. He doesn't care how it polls. It's important so he's speaking up. Leading. It's that honesty that is whole appeal. He starts putting a moderate gloss or filtering what he thinks, he's done.

You overestimate the compassion of the reliable Texas voter. Even if cousin Skeeter's in prison for five years, that's alright so long as Tyrone's doin' 20. 

[horncyclist 1391]

You overestimate the compassion of the reliable Texas voter. Even if cousin Skeeter's in prison for five years, that's alright so long as Tyrone's doin' 20. 

My point is that even if you don't give a shit about criminal justice, it's his honesty that got him where he's at. It's incredibly refreshing and while it's obviously by design, I think it's genuine.

[MaybeACoordinator 8349]

Just now, horncyclist said:

5 minutes ago, MaybeACoordinator said:

You overestimate the compassion of the reliable Texas voter. Even if cousin Skeeter's in prison for five years, that's alright so long as Tyrone's doin' 20. 

My point is that even if you don't give a shit about criminal justice, it's his honesty that got him where he's at. It's incredibly refreshing and while it's obviously by design, I think it's genuine.

Part of me is thinking these are auditions for 2020 as much as they are for this race. Or *whynotbothgirl

[austingirl 2191]

Haven't read all replies yet but when Cruz turned the "thoughts and prayers" comment into how HE will certainly pray for anyone, all I could think of was this.


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[horncyclist 1391]

Part of me is thinking these are auditions for 2020 as much as they are for this race. Or *whynotbothgirl

I don't think its what he set out to do but if he loses, he should go straight to Iowa. I don't think he could run after winning because it would betray his whole message and it would be far from a sure thing.

[MaybeACoordinator 8349]

If Beto wanted to go full punk, instead of a Clash reference he could have done something like this.

Ted: "I can't tell you how many police funerals I've been to over the last few years..."

Beto: "Millions of Dead Cops! Rad band!"

[gsoda3 3274]

4 minutes ago, horncyclist said:

6 minutes ago, MaybeACoordinator said:

Part of me is thinking these are auditions for 2020 as much as they are for this race. Or *whynotbothgirl

I don't think its what he set out to do but if he loses, he should go straight to Iowa. I don't think he could run after winning because it would betray his whole message and it would be far from a sure thing.

you really think he could run after losing?

[Gil Bang 25984]

2 hours ago, Stros said:

Lmfao I can’t find enough workers.

So you're sucking cock and giving double handjobs at the same time?

[MaybeACoordinator 8349]

Just now, gsoda3 said:

you really think he could run after losing?

Abe Lincoln lost to Stephen Douglas in 1858. 

[horncyclist 1391]

Abe Lincoln lost to Stephen Douglas in 1858. 

This. And absolutely. He has more momentum and buzz than anyone else now. It's going to be close either way. No one brands him a loser cause he lost to Ted Cruz by 3 points in Texas. I'm more and more confident he'll pull this off though

[RPM 26327]

Love me some air drum Beto.

[austingirl 2191]

Also, Beto's team is sending out some nice swag to volunteers. Got this today.




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[Longhorn_Fan68 33881]

Ted Cruz is a booger eater:

[Radical Larry 28656]

50 minutes ago, horncyclist said:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=340812919808655&id=223055747744143

Does that work for posting Facebook video? Beto going through Whataburger drive thru post-debatr playing air drums to The Who around 23:00.

When I saw the video was 45:00 minutes, I figured he was in the drive-thru for the entire time. 

[happyfunball 481]

I don't think you understand his whole campaign. He's talking about criminal justice reform because our criminal justice system is one of the greatest injustices in our history. He doesn't care how it polls. It's important so he's speaking up. Leading. It's that honesty that is whole appeal. He starts putting a moderate gloss or filtering what he thinks, he's done.

I agree with his position but it is a loser from a voter standpoint.

Disengaged voters aren’t watching the debates so he is only playing to a crowd that isn’t watching.

[RPM 26327]

50 minutes ago, horncyclist said:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=340812919808655&id=223055747744143

Does that work for posting Facebook video? Beto going through Whataburger drive thru post-debatr playing air drums to The Who around 23:00.

Jump to 31:30 Beto on healthcare: "How can you not be there for people?" The guy is the genuine article. If anyone can dethrone Cruz, it's him. 

[achooloco 1072]

25 minutes ago, austingirl said:

Also, Beto's team is sending out some nice swag to volunteers. Got this today.




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Oh shit I want that mug

[Mole 4333]

Just watching the debate now. I may have missed it mentioned here, but what's up with Beto's throat?

[RPM 26327]

1 minute ago, Mole said:

Just watching the debate now. I may have missed it mentioned here, but what's up with Beto's throat?

You mean his voice? It could be something about 254 counties.

[Mole 4333]

No, the right side of his neck.

[Celery Man 20981]

I missed that but did think that the lighting was bad.  The whole production was a bit amateur hour, from the swaying signs to the C market hosts (really Dallas?).

[RPM 26327]

1 minute ago, Celery Man said:

The whole production was a bit amateur hour, from the swaying signs to the C market hosts (really Dallas?).

KXAS gonna KXAS. They are a network owned farm A team. To her credit, the KXAS moderator was acceptable even though overmatched. The DMN moderator was horrible and I'm fairly certain he peed in his pants a couple times. Just a squirt or two, but it counts.

[Mdhorn 5974]

1 hour ago, austingirl said:

Also, Beto's team is sending out some nice swag to volunteers. Got this today.




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Just bought a t-shirt but really wanted that mug.  It shows up online but not for sale.  

[austingirl 2191]

2 minutes ago, Mdhorn said:

Just bought a t-shirt but really wanted that mug.  It shows up online but not for sale.  

They said the items are only for volunteers (shameless plug - sign up here). I've certainly never seen this design anywhere else but I like it. 

Edited September 22, 2018 by austingirl

[Longhorn_Fan68 33881]

Just watching the debate now. I may have missed it mentioned here, but what's up with Beto's throat?

That's what you pulled from watching the debate?

[RPM 26327]

That's why it's swag.

[Mdhorn 5974]

1 minute ago, austingirl said:

They said the items are only for volunteers. I've certainly never seen this design anywhere else but I like it.

it's a fantastic design--reminds me of a record. Just like how simple it is.  

[Monahorns 34]

Beto is poser.

Thrasher would have said "no" long ago.

[Longhorn_Fan68 33881]

Beto is poser.
Thrasher would have said "no" long ago.

What?

[RPM 26327]

21 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

22 minutes ago, Monahorns said:

Beto is poser.
Thrasher would have said "no" long ago.

What?

Sock troll

[Celery Man 20981]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efTm9eZ1qvM?t=51m9s

haha, missed this part.  Beto talking about Cruz being beholden to special interests - "He's working for the clampdown."

 

[shnsajax 3591]

 

[Rimbo 26019]

 

nsiap

[Longhorn_Fan68 33881]

Beto will only get better with each debate. Because his answers aren't canned. He has a real message and real ideas. Cruz has talking points and is still playing the old rules of politics. People are tired of the smear tactics of old. We want ideas. We want action. We don't want lies and diversions. I'm glad beto didn't take the bait, only to the extent to call Ted a liar several times.

And nothing will likely top #TrueToForm

[Fozzz 152]

Is the point here that black people need to shut up and take being murdered in their own homes by the cops in stride?  This uppityness cannot stand?  I don't know what else to take from this.  Think about what he must believe of his own voters to post something like this as somehow damning of Beto, and what's really awful, is that he probably has good reason for holding that belief.

 

 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33881]

Air drumming clip:

 

[Celery Man 20981]

I think he's tweeting that because he says that in here, Beto says "the police are the new Jim Crow" (which was one of the things he said before Beto injected that what Cruz was saying was false).  He doesn't have any point as it relates to black people because they are of no use to him.  His point is that the rubes with bandaids over the swoosh on their Nike monarchs should fear what Beto represents and #toughastexas

[Fudge Nuggets 19209]

4 hours ago, pevodog said:

Average mid career wage is 150k. Free market works

So what salary are you offering?  Provide proof of same.

[Anastasis 23480]

Watched a bit of the debate. They both look like some assholes to me. Cruz the gaper. Beto a little more refined but still full of shit.

 

It is what it is. Will keep invested in veto through early night returns and look to dump after the urban polls come down.

[Fudge Nuggets 19209]

4 hours ago, Stros said:

Like?
Fast and furious
Benghazi
Obama care
FBI
IRS
social security
Global warming
Welfare


Why is the government always the answer to fixing what’s not broke?

I most make to much money” not really” because my pay check looks like shit after the tax man comes.

Maybe I’m just selfish to want to keep most of my VERY hard earned money,?,?!,?!,?!,,

I should get a government job in DC.

I got mine, fuck all y’all.  

We’re going to take all your guns away too.

[Ted Lange 16110]

7 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Watched a bit of the debate. They both look like some assholes to me. Cruz the gaper. Beto a little more refined but still full of shit.

 

It is what it is. Will keep invested in veto through early night returns and look to dump after the urban polls come down.

If only we had a third party!

[Anastasis 23480]

Just now, Ted Lange said:

 If only we had a third party!

Right, cause two girls one cup ain't enough. Let's make it three. 

[Ted Lange 16110]

Honestly, that’s my point. I wish I could have used that analogy though, cause it is legit perfect.

[Fudge Nuggets 19209]

2 hours ago, Celery Man said:

I missed that but did think that the lighting was bad.  The whole production was a bit amateur hour, from the swaying signs to the C market hosts (really Dallas?).

It was Dallas.  I call it a win that Cruz’s dad didn’t shoot anyone.

[Fudge Nuggets 19209]

1 hour ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

People are tired of the smear tactics of old. We want ideas. We want action. We don't want lies and diversions.

What state do you live in?  Texans want to hate and be scared all the time.