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Hank Scorpio
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I'm sorry, look at all these old fucking goblins at this thing:  Let's go one by one:  Beatrice She has not missed a single city council meeting or church bingo in 35 years. S

Born to Run
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I’ve heard this bullshit my entire life, hell I used to believe the myth that Republicans were all about “faith in the common man succeeding when unimpeded by the govt.” Left alone business and humani

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I do volunteer work for Beto's campaign (surprise!). I get called a "libtard" on a regular basis and get a lot of responses that are just "#MAGA!" and the like, but I also hear a lot of "who is Beto?"

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Comparing Beto to Trump is unfair and off the mark. People like Beto because he’s positive. People dont like Trump, they like him as a character that acts on their behalf. They’re rooting for the villain like JR Ewing. Trumpkins know Trump is an asshole, but he’s their asshole.

Regarding your cynicism on what Beto will do, he’ll support judges and actions that seek to regulate money in politics. As long as individuals, entities and nations from around the world can influence elections and legislation, then our democracy will be on hold. In the meantime, Beto has proven to support dialogue with all. But he’ll be hard pressed to individually get real stuff passed.





He’ll also actually show up in the Senate to vote on things. And he’ll take calls and meetings on behalf of his constituents, and push specific local interests in the Senate.

Things that Ted has been utterly MIA on.

Folks think that Senators vote on SCOTUS judges and abortion all the time. That’s BS. 95% of what they do is mundane, but really important, for the people of their home state. Ted is mostly a no-show in that regard.
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44 minutes ago, shnsajax said:

The original doesn't exist anymore. Are there even anymore A frames left in Corpus?

Then the one in Waxahacie. I don't fucking care which one.  Beto is all in on the Whataburger theme.  He and Ellen should do a triple-meat challenge to see who can eat one the fastest.  Own that triple-meat label Ted put on you like an idiot.

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8 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

Granted, Cruz is a full blown toadie for Trump now, but I still think he’s overestimating how Trumpkin Texas is.  We aren’t the Deep South or West Virginia.  Plenty of Republicans or ex-Republicans here were never warm to Trump to begin with, and are less so now. Plenty have educations and deal in the dreaded globalist cabal of big business, or live in cosmopolitan urban/suburban areas, or at least have things going pretty well for them, so they’re not viewing everything from an angry, bitter ball of hate perspective or counting the days until Trump brings back coal mines.  

The national anthem or other Trumpkin populist nonsense isn’t the way to get those people back in the tent.  It just fires up the people who are Trumpkin anyway.  If he wants to give ex-Republicans disgusted by Trump and Cruz pause in actually defecting to vote for the Democrat, I think he’d be better off playing the old hits like socialism, abortion, gun grabbing, etc.  

The fact that the Senate race is the top of the (electronic) ticket in the booth makes it pretty easy to either a) have Republicans skip over it because Ted sucks, which is why he underperforms Abbott by 15-20 points in the polling or b) make it easy for straight ticket Republicans or Abbott/Beto voters to hit the straight ticket button but then change the first race they see.   Also makes it harder to hide the race for low information or first time voters - it's the first fucking box!

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3 hours ago, troph said:

Yeah and I’ve had to educate the gays that if my straight male lawyer friends are coming we need shiner and whiskey. They are learning but not without some confusion.

Tell those gays if they want this gay they need to have good beer.  I'll leave the whiskey for the straight guys.

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The weird list of match ups this year seem to make straight ticket voting less likely overall unless you're either a complete moron or not even trying to pay attention.  I imagine there could easily be a lot who vote for Abbot (because let's be honest: Lupe Valdez was never a real candidate) but against Cruz, Patrick (aka Goeb), and Paxton because they're horrible, incompetent, and corrupt respectively.  It gets more complicated further down ballot. 

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2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:


He’ll also actually show up in the Senate to vote on things. And he’ll take calls and meetings on behalf of his constituents, and push specific local interests in the Senate.

Things that Ted has been utterly MIA on.

Folks think that Senators vote on SCOTUS judges and abortion all the time. That’s BS. 95% of what they do is mundane, but really important, for the people of their home state. Ted is mostly a no-show in that regard.

huh? what? wait a minute... what is that? do i detect some optimism from ol' brisket? well, if Beto can bring back brisket, then i reckon he can beat Cruz.

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3 hours ago, cactusflinthead said:

Bucket of cold water 

5% chance is all he will give Beto

Interesting line from that article: 

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Four, polls suggest around one-third of likely voters still know very little about O'Rourke

Odd, because lately I have been wondering what we know about Cruz?  Once you get past the fact that he is the red candidate, what can he point to that he has done for Texas, what bills can he be proud of that he sponsored or supported.  Pretty much what I know about the guy is he actively blocks legislation and ran for POTUS.  

 

To me he isn't running on anything, he is just running on being Red...at what point do people realize how hollow that is?   I don't know a lot about Beto, but he is out there talking about himself, his ideals and ideas.   On the other hand we have Cruz over here doing what?  Making a huge deal about the kneeling thing?  So I sure as hell know more about Beto and what he intends to do about trying to help this country, this state than I do about Cruz after nearly 6 years in office. 

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4 hours ago, Planet Houston said:

First post ever in Cloak Room / Politics:

I just donated $100 and bought some yard signs and stickers.  I'm inspired, despite never really ever getting involved politically.  Not to mention that voting straight Dem in these midterms is really the only choice for any rational, caring human being, IMO.  Let's do this. 

Again, go through the ballot. Sometimes the R candidate's only opponent is an independent or Green Party candidate or such. Take the time, and get the satisfaction of voting against every R you can.

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4 hours ago, Lagunamadre said:

I think Ellen will be a huge plus for Beto. There are a lot of housewives in the Texas burbs whose only view into the world outside of Fox and Facebook is shows like Ellen, the Oprah crowd if you will. They will like what they see, and a decent portion of them might be scandalous and actually vote for him...and not tell their husband. 

And some of them might do it as their little way to get back at a hubby being an asshole  

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18 minutes ago, Mack Tripper said:

Houston Chronicle Editorial Board: Cruz Floods Texas Airwaves with Muddy Harvey Ad

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/opinion/editorials/article/Cruz-floods-Texas-airwaves-with-muddy-Harvey-13139447.php

 

That is a good article.  Thanks for posting.

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Yes, Cruz was out there, like many politicians, mucking houses and meeting with local Galveston area officials. His name was on the Cruz-Cornyn-Rubio tax relief bill, which added tax deductions for hurricane-related expenses. But when it came to the essential, and politically risky, responsibilty of passing a robust multi-billion dollar recovery bill, the credit belongs to Cruz’s Republican Senate colleague, John Cornyn.

Cruz was mostly AWOL in the fight for Harvey recovery dollars. Cornyn, on the other hand, put himself on the front lines to force a bill through the Senate.

Texas’ senior senator caught plenty of flack in the process.

 

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15 minutes ago, Celery Man said:

it must be demoralizing to root for people to represent you who just have absolutely no respect for you at all

But they are good god fearing people, I am sure that’s something they keep on using as a excuse 

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9 hours ago, Planet Houston said:

First post ever in Cloak Room / Politics:

I just donated $100 and bought some yard signs and stickers.  I'm inspired, despite never really ever getting involved politically.  Not to mention that voting straight Dem in these midterms is really the only choice for any rational, caring human being, IMO.  Let's do this. 

In the same exact boat and this is the part of the voting population that I suspect is way bigger than currently accounted for. Decent people(who lean left and right) who realize that the Trump administration will be the biggest shit stain of our lifetime.

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5 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

For the first time, I just went and scrolled through Cruz’s twitter and then Beto’s. The difference in tone is striking. The negativity coming from Ted is honestly overwhelming.

When you're scared, you go negative.

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First post ever in Cloak Room / Politics:
I just donated $100 and bought some yard signs and stickers.  I'm inspired, despite never really ever getting involved politically.  Not to mention that voting straight Dem in these midterms is really the only choice for any rational, caring human being, IMO.  Let's do this. 


Pro-tip:

Voting straight democrat means that you will miss several opportunities to vote AGAINST GOP candidates. If that’s your goal, you need to go line by line to vote Green or Lib where there are no Dems running.
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On 8/27/2018 at 5:27 PM, Celery Man said:

I assume the guy in the wheelchair is Tim Lee, who lost his legs from a land mine in Vietnam and is who Cruz is tweeting about (nominally) today

I appreciate your service to the country, but I'm not standing for you and they're not kneeling for you either.

Tim Lee and Ted have a weird relationship. Kinda reminds me of the "ya jackass" guy and Shooter Mcgavin relationship.

"Let's go to Red Lobster, my treat."

 

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