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Cody Wilson (Austin 3D gun guy) charged with sexual assault of a child


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The thing I always come back to in situations where a guy claims he thought an underage girl was older is that it's usually only possible if you don't talk to her before having sex with her. I've known some 15-year-old girls who could physically pass for being in their mid-20s. It happens. And if you're 30 years old and come across one of those girls in a bar, I can completely understand going up to the girl to try to pick her up.

But I've never known any of those girls who didn't talk and act like a kid once you got them into a conversation. Without fail they seem like a kid because, well, they're a kid.

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2 hours ago, Doc Reeves said:

Still don’t get how the website is not on blast too.

I agree, they helped facilitate this.

But how do you prevent it? Require a copy of a driver's license before allowing someone to create an account? That sounds well and good until you explain that Everyone wanting an account will need to provide a copy of their driver's license. Can you imagine the screaming over that? And then do you expand it to the facebooks and twitters and snapchats of the world? Because those also can be used for nefarious purposes.  I don't know what the right answer is other than don't fuck kids.

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1 hour ago, relapse98 said:

I agree, they helped facilitate this.

But how do you prevent it? Require a copy of a driver's license before allowing someone to create an account? That sounds well and good until you explain that Everyone wanting an account will need to provide a copy of their driver's license. Can you imagine the screaming over that? And then do you expand it to the facebooks and twitters and snapchats of the world? Because those also can be used for nefarious purposes.  I don't know what the right answer is other than don't fuck kids.

Idk. 

But I would hope that if your website makes its living nationally as a Sexually Oriented Business then it would be subject to the same white slavery laws as strip clubs.  

I mean, it’s illegal for an American citizen to go to Thailand or Colombia and fuck underage girls. It’s just not illegal to pimp them state side?

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32 minutes ago, Doc Reeves said:

Idk. 

But I would hope that if your website makes its living nationally as a Sexually Oriented Business then it would be subject to the same white slavery laws as strip clubs.  

I mean, it’s illegal for an American citizen to go to Thailand or Colombia and fuck underage girls. It’s just not illegal to pimp them state side?

I don't know if the phrase, white slavery laws, has been used in a few decades. 

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18 hours ago, Doc Reeves said:

edit: no racist, it just Houston doesn’t enforce prostitution laws at all

It's much more profitable to keep the speed traps manned 24-7. God forbid someone exceeds the speed limits during non rush hour when the roads are wide open. 

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6 minutes ago, Cousin Strawberry said:

So, y'all are saying barely legal and hardly legal aren't synonymous?  

Nope. Just saying that it's interesting that in a place like Texarkana, Cody Wilson can fuck 17 year old girls all day every day as long as his hotel is on the right side of State Line Avenue. Walk across the street though and the exact same activity makes national news where the powers that be can paint you as a pedophile.

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2 hours ago, LonghornSean said:

Saw this fella Wilson sitting by himself along the sidewalk outside my place downtown while I was letting my dog out during my lunch break (I live next to the pre-trial building).

He looked to be having a bad time.

You should have propositioned him. I hear he pays $500.

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15 hours ago, Doc Reeves said:

Dude.

I want in. We take this to Shark Tank and become millzzonaires

The gov't tried to criminalize virtual child porn but it was overturned, so...go for it. Where do I send my tree fiddy?

https://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/17/us/virtual-child-pornography-ban-overturned.html

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Update.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/01/texas-indicts-cody-wilson-on-multiple-counts-of-sexual-assault-of-a-minor/

 

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More than three months have passed since a warrant (PDF) initially went out for Defense Distributed founder Cody Wilson's arrest. That document detailed Wilson's alleged sexual assault against a female "child younger than 17 years of age" whom he reportedly solicited through the website SugarDaddyMeet.com. Last Friday, December 28, the State of Texas finally formally indicted (PDF) Wilson. The 3D printed gun advocate now faces multiple charges: four counts of sexual assault of a child, two charges of indecency with a child by contact, and two charges of indecency with a child by exposure.

These charges are all second-degree felonies punishable by up to 20 years in prison and fines of up to $10,000.

 

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In light of his situation, Wilson initially enlisted Houston attorney Samy Khalil to represent him. Khalil appeared to have a background in business-oriented criminal cases, and on his firm's website the attorney listed some Deepwater Horizon dismissals among his notable accomplishments. He offered the only public statement from Wilson’s side after the Defense Distributed founder was brought back to the US from Taiwan in an international legal effort: “We are glad that Cody is back in Texas again where we can work with him on his case,” Khalil told media on September 23. “That’s our focus right now, representing our client and preparing his defense.”

But in a mid-November motion to substitute counsel, Wilson switched legal teams entirely. He enlisted attorneys Joseph Turner, who has represented a range of clients including Willie Nelson and a Branch Davidian charged federally with murder, and  F. Andino Reynal, a former federal prosecutor for the Southern District of Texas. Reynal gave the Austin American-Statesman a brief statement after the new indictment became publicly available.

 

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“Mr. Wilson at all times believed reasonably that the complaining witness was a consenting adult,” the attorney told the paper. “We are confident that once all of the facts are out and we have a chance to interface with the DA’s office more directly that we’ll be able to resolve this matter.”

]For now, Wilson remains out of jail on a $150,000 bond, though he is being monitored (as evidenced by a motion to travel out of state granted by the courts for the winter holidays). As for his former company, the Defense Distributed founder has been formally removed as a director, according to its Public Information Report filed with the Texas Comptroller's office. The PIR for related organization Ghost Gunner, Inc. has yet to be updated for 2018 and still lists Wilson as a director.

 

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1 hour ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

“Mr. Wilson at all times believed reasonably that the complaining witness was a consenting adult,”the attorney told the paper. “We are confident that once all of the facts are out and we have a chance to interface with the DA’s office more directly that we’ll be able to resolve this matter.”

Since these are strict liability crimes, i.e. erroneous belief is not a defense and they are still crimes regardless of whether the person who commits the crimes knows the person is a minor, I don’t see how that matters. 

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On 1/4/2019 at 7:16 PM, hornian said:

“Mr. Wilson at all times believed reasonably that the complaining witness was a consenting adult,”the attorney told the paper. “We are confident that once all of the facts are out and we have a chance to interface with the DA’s office more directly that we’ll be able to resolve this matter.”

Since these are strict liability crimes, i.e. erroneous belief is not a defense and they are still crimes regardless of whether the person who commits the crimes knows the person is a minor, I don’t see how that matters. 

Because a DA should be interested in "justice," not just making cases and getting convictions.  It's the latter, together with stupid strict liability offenses, that make us the world leader in incarceration.

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I never in a million years expected him to have a comeback, but here we are

https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/30/21199519/defense-distributed-defcad-3d-printed-gun-library-launch-vetting

He is sort of back, not with Defense Distributed but with Ghost Gunner Inc (side that sells the actual Ghost Gunner printers I think?)

Wow.

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3D-printed firearms company Defcad has released a trove of gun-making blueprints, only to approved US residents. According to The Wall Street Journal, Defcad is selling access for a $50 annual fee, which director Cody Wilson describes as a “Netflix for guns” model.

The company has temporarily released blueprints before. Under the Obama administration, the plan ran afoul of International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR) rules that prevent exporting weapons abroad. The Trump administration offered significantly more leeway, but its approval has been tied up in legal battles. Now, Wilson tells the Journal that he’s vetting everyone who wants to access the files, using geolocation and other technical measures to ensure they’re located in the US.

Defcad’s library (created as part of the broader Defense Distributed project) offered 3,680 files at launch and plans to add thousands more, although the Journal notes that some are already in the public domain. Its terms of use forbid prominent critics from accessing the system, including law enforcement agencies in several states as well as news outlet The Trace, which focuses on reporting gun violence.

Among other things, the files could let users 3D-print plastic guns without serial numbers — a possibility that has worried gun control advocates and some state attorneys general since it could make the guns more difficult to detect and trace. The practical effects of this new system, however, are unclear. Defcad previously evaded the ban by mailing gun files to customers, and its blueprints were downloaded thousands of times when they appeared online in 2018, so they’ve been circulating for some time.

The vetting system may not be technically airtight either, even if Wilson describes it as “impervious” to legal challenge. He acknowledges that a user could download files and share them with someone else. But he contends that “it’s not quite living in reality to assume that you can 100 percent secure information that’s online.”

 

 

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20 minutes ago, NoName said:

Its terms of use forbid prominent critics from accessing the system, including law enforcement agencies in several states as well as news outlet The Trace, which focuses on reporting gun violence.

So you will get a pop-up saying “if you’re a cop, you must log off this site right now!”

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On 3/31/2020 at 3:08 PM, atomheartbevo said:

So you will get a pop-up saying “if you’re a cop, you must log off this site right now!”

naw it's in the TOS 

it's actually kind of funny...I've seen other tech companies use this, including one app developer that specifically said one individual or his agents couldn't use it lol but here is the full TOS part that mentions these folks @atomheartbevo

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GENERAL PROHIBITION AGAINST ACCESS BY CERTAIN USERS

Notwithstanding any other part of these Terms of Service, and notwithstanding any other express or implied grant of permission, the following persons/entities are expressly forbidden from using, accessing, or obtaining any information from DEFCAD for any reason:

Federal and state law enforcement agencies operating within or under the authority of the states of New Jersey, New York, Connecticut, Pennsylvania, and Washington. Agents of the offices of the Attorneys General of New Jersey, New York, Connecticut, Pennsylvania and Washington. Agents of the offices of Consumer Affairs or Consumer Protection in the states of New Jersey, New York, Connecticut, Pennsylvania, and Washington.

Employees, agents, members and associates of the gun control organizations including but not limited to: Brady, Giffords, The Trace, Mom's Demand Action, and Everytown for Gun Safety. Attorneys, employees, agents and associates of the law firms represented by the FACT coalition, including but not limited to the firms: Arnold & Porter LLP, Bilzin Sumberg Baena Price & Axelrod LLP, Covington & Burling LLP, Dentons US LLP, Hogan Lovells US LLP, Keker, Van Nest & Peters LLP, Mayer Brown LLP, Morrison & Foerster LLP, Morvillo Abramowitz Grand Iason & Anello PC, Munger Tolles & Olson LLP, O’Melveny & Myers LLP, Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP, and Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP.

Any access or use of any part of DEFCAD, whether directly or indirectly, by or at the direction of, any of the above-listed persons is expressly forbidden and is unlawful. Any violation of this prohibition may lead to civil and/or criminal liability pursuant to the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, 18 U.S.C. § 1030 (the “CFAA”).

This prohibition is intended to clarify that no permission to access is granted to any of the above-listed users. Further, for avoidance of doubt, this prohibition is intended to immediately and permanently revoke any pre-existing express or implied grant of permission to access this site within the meaning of Facebook, Inc v. Power Ventures, Inc, 844 F.3d 1058 (9th Cir. 2016) (noting, “a defendant can run afoul of the CFAA when he or she has no permission to access a computer or when such permission has been revoked explicitly.”) (emphasis added).

 

 

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That portion of the TOS is really interesting. It makes me wonder....is it possible to trespass on a website? If OU bans me from their campus because I was videotaping their practices and sending it to Herman via snail mail causing problems and I return then I'm going to get arrested. Can you arrest someone for visiting a website you told them not to visit?

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