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Hugo Stiglitz

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This is a very good (and long) article about Trumpism/Republicans/youth. It sums it all up nicely: 

Trumpism’s pitch to young white men is thus a stirringly amoral sort of syllogism: we can’t give you anything material, because we stole it all and are hoarding it, but we can create a world in which you can regularly act on your worst impulses and get away with it.

Legitimizing complete irresponsibility is also exactly why the mainstream, respectable GOP eventually embraced Trumpism. It’s a force that protects the monstrously unfair world they’ve built. They want to ensure that righteous mobs don’t dismantle the institutions that crank out Jared Kushners and Brett Kavanaughs, so they go along with the big lie, aimed at their lessers, that the people who want to destroy those elite institutions are also determined to punish “your son.” A movement that is designed to preserve the privilege of teens like Brett Kavanaugh to behave poorly and still run the country is telling less-privileged white teens that it’s actually fighting for their much more meager privilege to be racist and piggish and not face consequences.

 

https://thebaffler.com/salvos/teenage-pricks-pareene

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  On 5/10/2019 at 1:11 PM, UTDD said:

Not a shock, and I bet a huge majority of them only speak English.  It's quite a difference if you travel to many Euro/Asian countries where it is quite common to meet people that speak multiple languages versus so many parts of America.  It's also not just language but the breath of knowledge/interests/curiosity/etc as well.  I often feel like the very smartest Americans are right up there with anyone else in the world and why we still thrive as a nation, but that the average say college graduate American is generally stupider than the average college graduate in places I have visited in the past.

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Let me preface this by saying I speak French nearly fluently, lived about 25 miles north of Notre Dame de Paris for a year, have a BA in French, and taught French for a couple of years. I will, however, defend Americans' general lack of aptitude in speaking foreign languages.

In Europe, it's a near necessity to be bilingual in, at least, English and your mother tongue if you work in business or a service industry due there being so many different countries with a multitude of languages in such close proximity. Over there, you get accustomed to hearing lots of languages because it's absolutely commonplace. For example, the French-speaking part of Europe, an area that's about the size of Texas geographically, shares direct borders with the following major and minor languages: Breton, Dutch, German, Romansh, Italian, Catalan, Spanish, and Basque. It may as well also share borders with English for all practical purposes. Moreover, that list doesn't include other dialects (that some would count as languages) like Flemish, Luxembourgish, or Alsatian.

Of course, there is a need to have a lingua franca (in the past it was French) for people to communicate. It's not unusual to see, for instance, a person from Germany speaking to a person from France in English, because it's just simply understood that there's a likelihood the other will also speak it. That said, the French are notoriously bad at speaking foreign languages in general, but that's another story.

Here, in the US, we are genuinely isolated from such a variety of languages with Mexico to our south and Canada (Quebec) to our north. Moreover, our particular language is spoken worldwide by billions of people to one degree or another. We generally don't speak other languages because we don't have to as a matter of course in doing business, getting around, or socializing like they do in Europe.

With all of that said, the fact that so many Americans would actually take offense at hearing another language spoken in public is a testament to not only our general isolation but also our laziness, our lack of curiosity, and our superiority complex. My personal motivation for learning French was to overcome the barrier of isolation and try to get to know other parts of the world first-hand. Sadly, there's a chunk of our population that just doesn't give a shit about learning faget stuff about the outside world and is content with remaining ignorant - an attitude that naturally reflects those in the Republican base and is actively encouraged in some quarters.

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Report: Oil and Gas producers are pushing so much sulfur dioxide into the atmosphere that it's reaching dangerous levels.  Your Republican state legislators can't be bothered to measure it.

https://www.texasobserver.org/report-oil-and-gas-producers-may-be-pushing-the-permian-basin-past-federal-air-quality-limits/

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This is a good article summing up the Republican party in light of the crazy shit they are doing in GA and AL. 

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https://splinternews.com/the-deal-with-the-devil-that-got-us-here-1834779762

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There's a type of synergy going on with these evangelicals, MAGA, alt-right with these draconian abortion laws in places like Alabama and Georgia and with voter suppression places like South Carolina, Georgia and Florida. The shared goal is the restoration of rigid hierarchies of gender and eventually race. 

 

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They don’t care about the fetus either.  Don’t kid yourself, abortion is a weaponized political tool to give the republicans some illusion of a moral high ground while they get away with every other crime known to man. 

 

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  On 5/15/2019 at 8:20 PM, Hank Scorpio said:

This is a good article summing up the Republican party in light of the crazy shit they are doing in GA and AL. 

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https://splinternews.com/the-deal-with-the-devil-that-got-us-here-1834779762

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This article, while not 100 percent factually correct, is essentially correct. Enough so anyway.

The top .0001 percent that ultimately controls the Republican Party has used social issues such as race, abortion, immigration, and gays for 40 years to their delightful advantage to control the Republican Party so that they can further enrich themselves. The social issues, they could not care less about, but they manipulate the uneducated to accomplish their goals. Props to them on their success, I guess. 

In a realpolitik sense its absolute genius. Hell if you are an amoral super rich asshole, why choose any other way?  Johnny sack gives his approval. 

So what’s the answer? Better education? I’m afraid that ship may have sailed. As trump said, he absolutely loves the uneducated and as a country we have failed in that endeavor. It would be nice to start stopping the bleeding but I don’t see it happening soon. Basically because we are so racially divided that the whites don’t have a problem if “the others” don’t get an education. Just move to the suburbs instead, which they’ve done. 

Frankly, the only solution going forward is to never vote republican again, ever. Whether it be president, senator, head of the appraisal district or local dog catcher. 

It’s at least a start. 

 

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  On 5/15/2019 at 11:47 PM, JimmyJames said:

This article, while not 100 percent factually correct, is essentially correct. Enough so anyway.

The top .0001 percent that ultimately controls the Republican Party has used social issues such as race, abortion, immigration, and gays for 40 years to their delightful advantage to control the Republican Party so that they can further enrich themselves. The social issues, they could not care less about, but they manipulate the uneducated to accomplish their goals. Props to them on their success, I guess. 

In a realpolitik sense its absolute genius. Hell if you are an amoral super rich asshole, why choose any other way?  Johnny sack gives his approval. 

So what’s the answer? Better education? I’m afraid that ship may have sailed. As trump said, he absolutely loves the uneducated and as a country we have failed in that endeavor. It would be nice to start stopping the bleeding but I don’t see it happening soon. Basically because we are so racially divided that the whites don’t have a problem if “the others” don’t get an education. Just move to the suburbs instead, which they’ve done. 

Frankly, the only solution going forward is to never vote republican again, ever. Whether it be president, senator, head of the appraisal district or local dog catcher. 

It’s at least a start. 

 

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And then Trump runs as a democrat.  

I hate to go both sider here but simply not voting for the republicans isn’t going to cut it.   We can see right now the democrats are weak as fuck and not capable of tackling the challenges we face either.  We need better people in it for the right reasons. It doesn’t matter which party.  As long as they’re not cowards, racists, hypocrites, or frauds and genuinely work to serve the public as a whole, we would be light years ahead of where we are now. 

The parties can change over time and we’re clearly in the middle or on the cusp of a dramatic ideological realignment in both parties.

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  On 5/15/2019 at 11:59 PM, Hugo Stiglitz said:

And then Trump runs as a democrat.  

I hate to go both sider here but simply not voting for the republicans isn’t going to cut it.   We can see right now the democrats are weak as fuck and not capable of tackling the challenges we face either.  We need better people in it for the right reasons. It doesn’t matter which party.  As long as they’re not cowards, racists, hypocrites, or frauds and genuinely work to serve the public as a whole, we would be light years ahead of where we are now. 

The parties can change over time and we’re clearly in the middle or on the cusp of a dramatic ideological realignment in both parties.

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Sorry but I respecfully and completely disagree.

Despite what the trolls on here like to state, I am not and have not ever been a democrat.

I admit I appear to be so because I am completely opposed to trump and the current state of the Republican Party, which has gone completely off the rails.

The dems are not perfect by any stretch and there is much of which I disagree with, but they are at least acting somewhat sane. The republicans, not sane at all. Lunacy. 

There is no both sides here. The republicans, in their current state, are an enemy of our Republican ideals. They must be stopped or things will get much much worse. 

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  On 5/15/2019 at 10:32 PM, Slade said:

There's a type of synergy going on with these evangelicals, MAGA, alt-right with these draconian abortion laws in places like Alabama and Georgia and with voter suppression places like South Carolina, Georgia and Florida. The shared goal is the restoration of rigid hierarchies of gender and eventually race. 

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The goal is to turn out the ever-shrinking base in order to win the next election.  That means suppressing the other party’s vote and pushing the buttons of the base.  

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  On 5/16/2019 at 12:03 AM, JimmyJames said:

Sorry but I respecfully and completely disagree.

Depsite what the trolls on here like to state, I am not and have not ever been a democrat.

I admit I appear to be so because I am completely opposed to trump and the current state of the Republican Party, which has gone completely off the rails.

The dems are not perfect by any stretch and there is much of which I disagree with, but they are at least acting somewhat sane. The republicans, not sane at all. Lunacy. 

There is no both sides here. The republicans, in their current state, are an enemy of our Republican ideals. They must be stopped or things will get much much worse. 

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I agree with your analysis at this moment in time.  I won’t be voting republican until every last one now in Congress is no longer in office.  I’m just saying, the democrats are susceptible to being subverted by an amoral charlatan tyrant too because they are also WEAK. 

Why can’t ANY elected official stand up to Trump?  He’s a clown and a fraud.   He made his way to power by lying about the previous president and not one person in power wants to take it to him with the truth. 

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  On 5/16/2019 at 12:08 AM, atomheartbevo said:
The goal is to turn out the ever-shrinking base in order to win the next election.  That means suppressing the other party’s vote and pushing the buttons of the base.  


And with these shitty abortion laws, more women will be made into felons.

And felons can’t vote!

Controlling our bodies AND suppressing votes with one fell swoop!
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  On 5/16/2019 at 9:29 PM, triplehorn said:

 

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Makes perfect sense.  I mean, if you were the coach of a team, and you had information that the mob was buying off all the refs for your next game....but they were paying them to throw calls your team's way....you would totally not call the FBI, and that would absolutely be the right thing to do.  Totally legal, totally cool.

The GOP isn't a political party anymore.  It's part of an organized crime syndicate.

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  On 5/16/2019 at 10:24 PM, Brisketexan said:

Makes perfect sense.  I mean, if you were the coach of a team, and you had information that the mob was buying off all the refs for your next game....but they were paying them to throw calls your team's way....you would totally not call the FBI, and that would absolutely be the right thing to do.  Totally legal, totally cool.

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  On 5/12/2019 at 10:09 PM, SmokeyTheBear said:

Yes Pence, I shun and ridicule all that force their civil liberty limiting ideology down everyone's throats. 

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No you don’t. You just pick one subset of those who use government as a means to trample  civil liberties. You are willing to give a pass to many institutions, government and otherwise, as well as ideologies, that undermine individual civil liberties. 

Btw. This is intended not personally towards you as a poster but in a more general rhetorical sense. There are few that actually consistently advocate broadly for civil liberties. Most pick narrow issues to frame their advocacy around, and ignore the vast many others that don’t fit their political perspective. 

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  On 5/17/2019 at 12:47 AM, Anastasis said:

No you don’t. You just pick one subset of those who use government as a means to trample  civil liberties. You are willing to give a pass to many institutions, government and otherwise, as well as ideologies, that undermine individual civil liberties. 

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Can you provide some examples of issues that would be under the umbrella of hypocrisy you are referencing?

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  On 5/17/2019 at 12:47 AM, Anastasis said:

No you don’t. You just pick one subset of those who use government as a means to trample  civil liberties. You are willing to give a pass to many institutions, government and otherwise, as well as ideologies, that undermine individual civil liberties. 

Btw. This is intended not personally towards you as a poster but in a more general rhetorical sense. There are few that actually consistently advocate broadly for civil liberties. Most pick narrow issues to frame their advocacy around, and ignore the vast many others that don’t fit their political perspective. 

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I think we are in agreement on this matter.

It boggles the mind with how partisan both sides can be and then act in lockstep regarding issues of civil liberties.

The Patriot Act passed 98-1 in the Senate. The FISA amendment passed with an overwhelming bipartisan majority as well as CISA.

I will give a shout out to Bernie, he has consistently voted against this shit.

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  On 5/17/2019 at 12:58 AM, SmokeyTheBear said:

 Can you provide some examples of issues that would be under the umbrella of hypocrisy you are referencing?

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A couple bipartisan examples in the post immediately preceding this one. There is no doubt that the surveillance apparatus in this country is a prime example. You have to strain very hard to find consistent voices advocating for a broad view of civil liberties. 

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  On 5/17/2019 at 1:26 AM, Anastasis said:

A couple bipartisan examples in the post immediately preceding this one. There is no doubt that the surveillance apparatus in this country is a prime example. You have to strain very hard to find consistent voices advocating for a broad view of civil liberties. 

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Then agreed

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