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This is such unbridled horseshit. I live in fucking California, and I'm not sure if I've ever seen a Fuck Trump shirt/flag/bumper sticker/whatever in person. I can't go a day without seeing Let's Go B

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Did not have former Skid Row lead singer Sebastian Bach talking shit to MAGA cult members on my bingo card. But here we are.  

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4 hours ago, Bama Chick said:


IThere’s a reason Boomers and Millennials hate each other - they very much see themselves in one another.

 

I don't hate any generation.  I've said a few negative things about them before, but sweeping generalizations about generations isn't productive. There are trends, but there are also cool people and shitty people in every age group as sidis's data shows.  Also, the shitty people likely always outnumber the cool people, even Generation Z.  If you're waiting for Nick Sandmann or Jacob Wohl to come save us, well.....

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Yeah, no reason at all for LATINX to be concerned about the GQP speaking about is as if we weren’t real 'Mericans....and eventually acting on it and killing them all because we need to talk about Kevin.

FIFY. People who subscribe to GQP are crazy, man. Have you seen what some of these "Q" things are talking about? Outlandish weird stuff, my dude. Stay frosty.

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FIFY. People who subscribe to GQP are crazy, man. Have you seen what some of these "Q" things are talking about? Outlandish weird stuff, my dude. Stay frosty.

If only we had some historical references for dominant, nationalist parties demonizing certain citizens as not real citizens of the nation. Man, those would be handy to reference.

And here’s a spoiler for you: those stories never start with camps and shit like that. They start like what we’ve been seeing: people like me being deemed “not REAL Americans.”
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I don't hate any generation.  I've said a few negative things about them before, but sweeping generalizations about generations isn't productive. There are trends, but there are also cool people and shitty people in every age group as sidis's data shows.  Also, the shitty people likely always outnumber the cool people, even Generation Z.  If you're waiting for Nick Sandmann or Jacob Wohl to come save us, well.....

I don't know that the shitty people outnumber others so much as they make the most noise and while others are hung up/limited by decency, the shitty people seize power.  Today, we once again reinforced the idea that Latinos aren't considered Americans, do the right thing and you can be censured by your own party, fighting mask mandates is a winning formula in one party, and people choose to believe the Capitol riot didn't happen or was non-threatening.  This stuff isn't really fixable.  

However, what does change minds is freezing in the cold without heat due to incompetence and bad choices to blame.  Now, ride the wave of socialism as the message to repairing the day and fix this shit.    I know this is just preaching to the choir.

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1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:


If only we had some historical references for dominant, nationalist parties demonizing certain citizens as not real citizens of the nation. Man, those would be handy to reference.

And here’s a spoiler for you: those stories never start with camps and shit like that. They start like what we’ve been seeing: people like me being deemed “not REAL Americans.”

Yea, but the most worrisome thing is the irrational and mental illness that Q feeds upon, like a vicious cycle. Because you can almost see the broken brains through their eyes.

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If only we had some historical references for dominant, nationalist parties demonizing certain citizens as not real citizens of the nation. Man, those would be handy to reference.

And here’s a spoiler for you: those stories never start with camps and shit like that. They start like what we’ve been seeing: people like me being deemed “not REAL Americans.”

Dehumanizing people is straight from the preachings of Christ.

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Agreed with your overall point about not generalizing or acting like the generations are so different from each other.   But I actually do have more of a concern about the younger generation.   I know a ton of posters here have a “My kid is awesome, so therefore Gen Z is great!” take they’re just itching to unleash, but IQ rates are dropping worldwide and kids today are growing up in a world of actual fake news and studies are finding they’re pretty poor at distinguishing what is real vs. what is fake.  

If anything, the youth might be the most vulnerable to demagogues.  

Is this real? I'd like to read up on it-- I'll try to google it first. My first-hand (admittedly, could be biased) experience through internship programs and young professionals are they are way smarter, polished, more prepared and able than the Millennial counterparts at the same stage/age.

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Agreed with your overall point about not generalizing or acting like the generations are so different from each other.   But I actually do have more of a concern about the younger generation.   I know a ton of posters here have a “My kid is awesome, so therefore Gen Z is great!” take they’re just itching to unleash, but IQ rates are dropping worldwide and kids today are growing up in a world of actual fake news and (in many cases) declining education.  Studies are finding they’re actually pretty poor at distinguishing what is real vs. what is fake.  

If anything, the youth might be the most vulnerable to demagogues.  

It was encouraging to read this was not happening in the USA, at least for now. Thanks for the link.

Also, the only theory given any support or credence (e.g. NOT a throwaway sentence that sounds like quackery "global warming is causing the food to lose nutrition so the youth are losing their cognitive skills) is that the work/jobs for the youth are mind-numbing, dull, etc. That is an interesting find considering one of my main personal political tentpoles is we should embrace UBI and automation of mundane, dull tasks (I like Yang: Gang Gang).

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I don't hate any generation.  I've said a few negative things about them before, but sweeping generalizations about generations isn't productive. There are trends, but there are also cool people and shitty people in every age group as sidis's data shows.  Also, the shitty people likely always outnumber the cool people, even Generation Z.  If you're waiting for Nick Sandmann or Jacob Wohl to come save us, well.....

I read this in my buddy's voice from 2008 who said: "I don't see why anyone would hate any individual.  Except for Tim Tebow because he's a god-loving fuck face."

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Yea, but the most worrisome thing is the irrational and mental illness that Q feeds upon, like a vicious cycle. Because you can almost see the broken brains through their eyes.


The irrational and mentally ill are Eve control of faction of your party because you continue to support and feed them. Don’t complain about the rabid dog getting bigger and stronger as you simultaneously shovel Alpo in front of him. You did this, and you’re continuing to do it.

https://thehill.com/homenews/news/538930-75-percent-of-republicans-want-trump-to-play-prominent-role-in-gop-poll

If that’s true that’s the end of the Republicans as a national party (and there was much rejoicing in the CR).

The mind bottles.


Alternate take: the transition already happened, and they will simply go forward as the Trump party without skipping a beat, because the other 25% will get in line and bend the knee.
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https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/iq-rates-are-dropping-many-developed-countries-doesn-t-bode-ncna1008576
Quote:  “People are getting dumber. That's not a judgment; it's a global fact. In a host of leading nations, IQ scores have started to decline.”
https://www.wsj.com/articles/most-students-dont-know-when-news-is-fake-stanford-study-finds-1479752576
Quote: “Preteens and teens may appear dazzlingly fluent, flitting among social-media sites, uploading selfies and texting friends. But they’re often clueless about evaluating the accuracy and trustworthiness of what they find. 
Some 82% of middle-schoolers couldn’t distinguish between an ad labeled “sponsored content” and a real news story on a website, according to a Stanford University study of 7,804 students from middle school through college. The study, set for release Tuesday, is the biggest so far on how teens evaluate information they find online. Many students judged the credibility of newsy tweets based on how much detail they contained or whether a large photo was attached, rather than on the source.”

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On 2/16/2021 at 7:30 PM, Js1 said:

 

Is she suggesting that the people she worked with were undocumented?  Was she their employer?  I think an investigation into her hiring practices is in order. If we really want to control unlawful immigration, it needs to start with a zero tolerance policy for employers. I think 20 years in prison for the first offense would dry the market right up. Undocumented immigrants would have no choice but to leave in order to obtain gainful employment. 

Not that I really support that. I just think it's telling that almost every person who claims to be anti-illegal immigration doesn't support policies that would actually curb it. And that's because they really don't care about immigration at all. They are just trying to cover up their racism. 

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From arugula and tan suits to shitty, not so presidential dogs.  Fuck your dog, Biden.
 

We’re all in agreement here, the GQP is now just a Cruella Deville caricature, just evil personified, right? And I mean all of us, including the party supporters here. Y’all agree, right? I mean, we know you LIKE that, and this is what you want....but you don’t deny it anymore.
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cAnCeL cUlTuRe!!!11!!one!

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The speaker, who goes by Young Pharoah, once tweeted out that “THERE IS NO #HISTORICAL OR #SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE PROVING THE EXISTENCE OF #JEWS OR #JUDAISM... ITS ALL A COMPLETE #LIE. … COMPLETELY MADE UP FOR #POLITICAL GAIN.” 

There's no historical or scientific evidence proving that Jews exist....WTF?  I mean, like....there's a synagogue right down the street from me.  I promise, it's not imaginary.  So....seems there's a LITTLE bit of evidence that Jews exist.

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There's no historical or scientific evidence proving that Jews exist....WTF?  I mean, like....there's a synagogue right down the street from me.  I promise, it's not imaginary.  So....seems there's a LITTLE bit of evidence that Jews exist.
Assuming that goes for all descendents of Abraham and thus Christians and Muslims don't exist either?
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2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

The speaker, who goes by Young Pharoah, once tweeted out that “THERE IS NO #HISTORICAL OR #SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE PROVING THE EXISTENCE OF #JEWS OR #JUDAISM... ITS ALL A COMPLETE #LIE. … COMPLETELY MADE UP FOR #POLITICAL GAIN.” 

sounds like Jaden Smith is trying his hands at politics

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Like this is a surprise.

 

TL;DR.  A small county GOP party in Wisconsin asked its members to adopt a resolution considering non-violence by all political parties.  It was rejected.

 

https://thebulwark.com/wisconsin-republicans-refuse-to-condemn-political-violence/

 

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We are long-time Republicans who have served in GOP leadership at the county, district, and state levels in Wisconsin. After the insurrection at the U.S. Capitol on January 6, we decided to ask our local Oconto County, Wisconsin Republican Party to consider a non-violence resolution at their 2021 County GOP Caucus.

What happened when we did was revealing.

 

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Oconto is a small county—26,000 registered voters out of a total population of 38,000—in northeastern Wisconsin. It extends northwest from the exurbs of Green Bay to the sawmill-turned-tourism towns of the Wisconsin Northwoods. Manufacturing is dominant in the southern portion of the county, agriculture in the mid-section, and tourism areas are intermingled with the timberlands in the north. Generally, Oconto is characterized as small-town rural and, despite a small Latino population largely working on dairy farms and in meatpacking factories, is both heavily white and overwhelmingly Republican.

 

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Former President Donald Trump carried Oconto County by 37 points in 2016 and 41 points in 2020. Local Republican congressional candidates, as well as partisan state and local candidates, regularly outperform the Democratic candidates 2:1 at the ballot box. Oconto County has been, in many ways and for many years, reflective of the base of the Republican party in Wisconsin.

The premise of our resolution was straightforward and non-partisan:

 

[A]ll political parties have a civic responsibility to promote their ideals in as productive a way as possible . . . all violence and all actions that may condone violence to attain political ends are destructive to our governance as well as our democratic way of life.

 

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Additionally, the resolution called for a free, open, and civil discourse in the political arena which serves to uphold Republican goals in a unifying rather than a divisive manner. It opposed violence as a means to any political end and condemned all political violence of the past year, be it by members of political parties or by organizations in support of political parties or party agendas.

Finally, it condemned any ongoing or future violence, as well as any incitement to same, used as a calculated means to achieve political ends.

The resolution was considered by the Oconto County GOP at the party’s 2021 Caucus on February 13.

After what has been described by caucus-goers as a “lively back and forth” concerning the intent of and need for such a resolution, the caucus voted the resolution down on a voice vote—estimated for us by attendees at roughly 55 percent against and 45 percent in favor.

There was the sense from those opposed to the resolution that they did not need to be told “what is right and wrong,” so it appears to have struck a personal nerve with some even though we carefully drafted the resolution to express an organizational message that condemned uncivil actions and not specific parties or individuals.

There are, of course, many possible motivating factors behind any individual vote. But we do have some survey data as context. A recent American Survey Center poll found that nearly 4 in 10 Republicans see a legitimate place for political violence in our political discourse.

Which isn’t all that far from the 55 percent who voted against our resolution.

Beyond our wholehearted support for the sentiment and the focus of the resolution, we were also interested to learn how our fellow Republican party members (and the party apparatus) would react to an internal petition in favor of more neighborliness and less tribalism in the day-to-day maneuverings within our political process.

For us, the defeat of the resolution, while not entirely unforeseen, carries some disappointment. We saw it as a straightforward first step to restoring political civility and building on traditional Republican principles going forward—and we decided to start this movement within our own sphere of political acceptance and influence. With our neighbors.

We are still unabashedly Republicans and it is clear to us that Republican organizations, at all levels, are facing an influx of new members who do not have much in the way of knowledge, history, or appreciation of traditional Republican principles.

This can sometimes be a good thing—there’s a reason organizations value fresh blood. But it can also be a bad thing if many of the new members are less interested in political philosophies and more interested in anger and indignation. What happens then is that instead of the party being infused with new energy and thinking, it devolves into a vector for rancor and division.

Which is why, in recent months, the focus of many local GOP organizations has shifted away from solving problems and toward blowing things up.

At least in our neighborhood, we can now see that a number of these newly enlisted Republicans appear to have come to the GOP not for the ideology or the philosophy, but for the signs, the flags and, the fight.

So much so that they can’t even bring themselves to assert the most basic of our shared values: That violence has no place in democratic life.

 

 

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