The GQP: Trumpist Death Cult

[Francisco 2.0 32395]

 

 

[RDCanecutter 26452]

13 hours ago, Satchel said:

Why do people vote for these awful folks?

Because they have Toby Keith's brain minus whatever musical talent.

[Gatorubet 30246]

Texas has become ground zero for fauxbois from around the country to come and play cowboys. Sadly, it's become a winning strategy as there are a sufficient number of rubes to welcome them that we've become the nation's dude ranch for Republicans to play out their insecure, hyper-masculine, tough guy, fantasies.

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

Putting this here because GOP, but it's very interesting. So you all know Gab and its trials and tribulations. I had spent some time about a month or so ago (slowly because it was like using AOL when it came to speed) looking around and since it promoted itself as the 'free speech' platform, that was certainly the case. Definitely found Q people, people who do not like observant Jews at all, nor POC, and lots and lots of memes and videos.

The owner of Gab is a very patriarchal evangelical Christian and he is quite mad at the Texas GOP now. The Texas GOP decided to remove their account from Gab, supposedly due to the virulent antisemitism found on the platform. That struck Mr. Torba as many kinds of wrong and he's taking it personal. Below are some screen shots for your viewing:

I mean, he's really mad.

 

 

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

And he's still mad...

And he's going to talk about how mad he is...

 

He has a lot of followers and they are now working on 'cancelling' the Texas GOP for 'cancelling' the GAB account. Thought you all might find it interesting. I cannot recall who made an account over there, but have at it....

[Neonmoon 38129]

Crazy religious cult mad because people don’t want to be part of cult that say horrific shit. Story at 6

[StassneyHorn 6614]

Yea the big brains of the Texas SREC voted 35-25 to delete. They also sent back the whole put women in jail for abortion thing. Vice Chair looks to be doing the ground work to put some sort of check on Allen West.

Don’t repeat that though, I need to see them fight

Edited March 27, 2021 by StassneyHorn

[Serak The Preparer 3431]

"The pathetic GOP votes to deplatform itself from Gab" might literally be the funniest thing I've seen in the last month, and that includes The Audition from Mr Show. It's a platonic ideal of masterbatory stupidity and team-on-team purity testing.

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

14 minutes ago, Serak The Preparer said:

team-on-team purity testing.

This seems to be a little of the issue with the Gab v Texas GOP and it's the white Christian angle that may be the hill that is selected by the folks loyal to Torba's platform because they are painting the Texas GOP as establishment GOP in a distillation attempt. I mean calling someone of the Jewish faith, anti-Christ is pretty clear. It also reaffirms the Vanilla Isis sobriquet.

[Francisco 2.0 32395]

https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2021/03/27/republican-women-say-they/

 

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A few weeks before the 2020 election, Salt Lake County Council candidate Laurie Stringham created a campaign video for donors.

Stringham was proud of the minute-long production, made with her shoestring budget, she said. It poked fun at what she viewed as the county’s excessive spending, with a slap at the opposing party.

“Support Laurie Stringham for Salt Lake County Council, so when Mayor [Jenny] Wilson says ‘more, more, more,’ we can say ‘no, no, no,’” Stringham says in the recording.

 

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Hours after the video went out on Sept. 15, Stringham said, she was driving her teenage son to a meet a friend when she got a call from Dave Robinson, the county Republican Party’s unofficial communication director.

“You sound like you’re having an orgasm!” Stringham said he yelled at her over her car’s speakerphone. She said he repeated her “more, more, more” catchphrase with obscene grunting sounds.

“He tells me if I want to ‘wh--- myself out,’ that is my choice,” Stringham said.

But what rattled Stringham most, she said, were the threats she said Robinson made.

 

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“‘I will make sure you never get elected! I will ruin you! And I will make sure the party never works with you! Get your sh-- together!’” Stringham recounted Robinson saying. “Then he hung up on me. The call lasted just over two minutes, but scared the hell out of me.”

Stringham’s story is just one example of a toxic, bullying culture that existed over the past campaign season for the county’s Republican women, according to interviews with several high-ranking members of the party as well as dozens of emails and text messages from the past six months that were shared with The Salt Lake Tribune.

The women said they experienced body-shaming and scrutiny of their appearance by Robinson, who is gay. He called men and women, but mostly women, degrading nicknames, they said, and refused to stop when asked. Some women said he withheld important campaign resources unless they wrote opinion pieces about his pet issues.

 

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“He uses demeaning, derogatory and sexual terms for females, period. But he also does it for men, too. It’s just that he, in my experience, is more aggressive toward women,” said Erin Preston, a former candidate for county recorder. “Some of his comments get pretty graphic and potentially damaging to good people, both men and women.”

Women interviewed for this story said they raised their concerns with party leadership, including Salt Lake County Republican Party Chair Scott Miller. But they said as far as they know, nothing was done.

“It doesn’t feel like anyone in leadership acknowledges how hard it hits,” Preston said. “When I go to county officials and say, ‘This is what he’s saying, I’m not comfortable,’ the standard response is ‘Oh, that’s just Dave.’”

Miller was dismissive about the allegations in an interview with The Tribune. “So apparently you’re interested in the internal squabbling of our party,” Miller said. “It’s squabbling — that’s what it is.”

Miller is now running for the state Republican chair in the wake of current chair Derek Brown’s recent announcement that he would not seek a second term. The Tribune questioned him and Robinson in a 2½-hour interview on Thursday.

In response, Miller sent out a scathing rebuke on the county party’s official email late Friday naming all of the women coming forward and questioning the true motivation behind what he described as “these salacious accusations.”

“Are these persons and possibly their special interest backers attempting to embarrass and cancel me and our volunteers,” Miller asked in part. “Are most of the accusers sore losers who failed to win their respective races? Is this an attempt to disrupt my efforts to become the Utah GOP Chairman?”

And suggesting it was a case of cancel culture run amok, Miller wrote, “I will not be CANCELLED.”

The email drew intense backlash on Saturday. Gov. Spencer Cox and Lt. Gov. Deidre Henderson issued a news release condemning the county party email.

“We are deeply offended by the recent reprehensible communications to Salt Lake County delegates. Let us be clear: This type of behavior should never happen and when it does we will not tolerate it, ignore it, or explain it away. It is unacceptable. The Republican Party needs women in our policymaking and discussions. Sincere apologies are owed to the women who have been victimized and we admire their courage and strength in coming forward. That is not an easy thing to do.”

Brown, the state GOP chairman, also issued a news release calling the allegations “appalling.”

He said the email Miller sent out to Republicans “read as an attempt to shield both he and Robinson from forthcoming allegations of bullying, intimidation, and harassment that they knew would soon be made public” in the Tribune article published Saturday afternoon.

“Ironically, his statement proceeded to bully, intimidate, and harass individual women, by name, not only substantiating their allegations, but perhaps providing a public example of what they may have experienced privately.”

Brown called on the county party’s executive committee “to immediately meet and address these allegations in a way that ensures this never happens again.”

Earlier on Saturday afternoon, Miller sent out another county party email Saturday afternoon with a starkly different tone and message than the previous one.

“I applaud these women for coming forward and I have encouraged any accusers to come forward. I take these allegations seriously. I want to be very clear, I do not and will not tolerate sexual harassment, sexual assault, etc.”

He said he is proposing a new harassment policy for the county party be enacted immediately to provide a clear path for an investigation, protection of those bringing forward allegations and a fair process for resolution.

Coming forward

The current chorus of allegations against Robinson and Miller’s defense of him had their roots in that September phone call from Robinson to Stringham that left her rattled.

She called Miller after Robinson hung up, she said. “I started sobbing into the phone and asked Scott if he was really not going to work with me anymore,” Stringham said. She said Miller assured her Robinson didn’t have the kind of power he threatened.

“He then explained that Dave gets like this sometimes. It is just how Dave is,” she said.

Miller told her she needed “to have thick skin when it comes to these things,” she said. “Sure what he said was inappropriate,” Stringham recalled Miller saying, “but you will need to continue working with Dave if you want to win your race.”

In an interview, Miller confirmed that Stringham told him Robinson called her a wh---, but denied hearing about threats. He said because Stringham continued working with him on the campaign, he considered the matter resolved.

Robinson said he was quoting criticisms other people had shared with him about the video when he called Stringham.

“I said the only way — what was it? — something about the only way that’s a good sound is from a wh--- on State Street, something like that,” he said in an interview.

He said he also complained about the grammar and the writing in an email accompanying the video, telling Stringham it “looked like it was written by a fourth grader.”

Three other Republican women confirmed Stringham shared her story with them soon after the call. One was Abby Evans, who previously volunteered and worked for Stringham’s campaign, and now serves as her policy adviser on the County Council.

“She immediately drove to my house” after the calls with Robinson and Miller, Evans said. “She was shaking, she was upset, she was visibly distraught.”

Name-calling and body-shaming

Like Stringham, Preston, the former Republican candidate for recorder, is a single mom who was grateful to have the support of the county party in her campaign, at least at first, she said. But she soon became suspicious of Robinson’s motives.

“The first time we met to go over my campaign, he walks up and says ‘nice t--s, nice a--, are those new?’” Preston recalled. She said she also personally heard Robinson call women in the party “slut,” “fatty” and “sloppy seconds.”

Preston said she is accustomed to crude language in her job as an attorney and initially tried to ignore Robinson’s remarks.

“But the treatment that came after,” she said, “I certainly felt was demeaning and abusive at some points.”

Robinson discouraged Preston from reaching out to her own contacts in local media, text messages shared with The Tribune show, often using disparaging nicknames for reporters and columnists, most of them women.

He helped Preston set up a campaign website, but would not provide her access, which Miller and Robinson confirmed. In August, she emailed Robinson and asked him to remove language that mocked her opponent’s appearance and claimed that “there are some who view her as a ‘Barbie doll,’” Preston said.

Preston said Robinson was “trying to control the message” of her campaign. He wrote opinion pieces in her name about gay discrimination from homeowners’ associations, which she refused to have published, she said. Preston learned Robinson had attached himself to an HOA lawsuit where, in a counterclaim, he alleged he was personally being harassed for being gay. A judge dismissed the claim earlier this month.

“He kept trying to push his homeowner’s association case into any press message about my campaign — always without my permission,” Preston said.

He also pushed Preston to focus on issues involving Big and Little Cottonwood canyons as part of her campaign, she said, but she didn’t see a connection to the recorder’s office that she felt would be worthwhile.

Robinson previously worked as a consultant for landowners there. “It seemed like he had a personal stake, but we never knew. None of us really know what he does for work,” Preston said. “Everything he does is cloaked in secrecy.”

Robinson’s role at the Salt Lake County Republican Party is unpaid.

Preston shared numerous emails and text messages she said she sent to party leadership in September and October outlining her concerns.

“I need Dave Robinson away from my campaign and out of my life,” she texted vice chair Scott Rosenbush on Sept. 24.

On Oct. 2, she texted the chair and vice chair that she had received no help from Robinson but “constant criticism ... and a whole lot of toxic conversations that have wasted my time and emotional energy.”

She added that even after firing Robinson, she still had no control over her campaign website, leading her to fear retaliation.

Rosenbush occasionally replied with advice, text messages shared with The Tribune show, but Robinson’s harassing behavior continued, Preston said, even after she told him to stop contacting her. She said she never received a response from Miller.

Miller told The Tribune he reviewed Preston’s claims and decided there was nothing to pursue. “Every email that we read that was submitted to us is what goes on in a normal campaign,” he said.

Robinson agreed to stop contacting Preston for the rest of her campaign, Miller added, so he assumed there was no further issue.

Asked whether he made inappropriate comments about women’s bodies, Robinson said he criticizes his own appearance in disparaging ways. He also brought up his family background in ranching.

“Keep in mind, I come from a very, very, very high level of judging horses and livestock and being very critical. OK, I have a critical eye,” he said. “But it doesn’t mean that I’m degrading an individual.”

Other women complained about Robinson

Republican women say Robinson’s problematic behavior went beyond the 2020 county elections.

Lisa Bagley, who was campaigning for a seat in the Utah Legislature, told The Tribune she also became uncomfortable when Robinson exerted control over her website and tried to make her campaign messages focused on his own pet issues.

“He said, ‘You’re either all in or all out’ with his messaging, and his messaging is very much his agenda,” Bagley said.

Bagley decided she was all out, and told Robinson she was going to hire a consultant to manage her campaign. Robinson then sent Bagley what she called a “bizarre” email accusing her of being a shill for wealthy lobbyists.

“It was very unprofessional and really, a side punch in the gut. The way he backtracked on it was, ‘This is what I would have sent if I was your opponent,’” Bagley said. “Who needs enemies when you have someone dumping like this in my own party?”

Kim Coleman, a former state lawmaker who ran an unsuccessful primary campaign against Burgess Owens to represent the 4th Congressional District, said Robinson was condescending toward her and said belittling things about her team. She said she frequently heard Robinson use disparaging terms about women’s bodies.

“I was sometimes shocked, sometimes surprised, but I didn’t know it was as widespread as it was,” Coleman said. “When I started hearing things he did to other ladies, I was pretty disturbed.”

Barbara Stallone, who had been involved with the county party for two decades, said she met with Robinson at a restaurant during his campaign for county mayor in 2016. The meeting abruptly ended when Robinson shouted at her friend after he offered campaign advice, Stallone said, and then told Stallone she didn’t deserve his time.

As she attempted to leave, Stallone said, Robinson physically blocked the exit. She said she had to push past him to get away.

“I don’t like men who use their physical strength to bully women. I find that horrifying. I was shaking badly,” she said.

Robinson said he first met Stallone in 2018, but the friend who joined her in the 2016 meeting confirmed Stallone’s account.

In 2018, when Miller was considering appointing Robinson as communications director for the party, Stallone said she privately shared her concerns with him.

“He basically blew me off and said it’s the chair’s choice,” she said. “I worry we’re out there saying with one mouth that we need more women to run for office, and at the same time we’re allowing them to be treated this way.”

Miller denied that Stallone had spoken to him about Robinson.

Part of the problem, according to some party members, is it’s difficult to share concerns with Miller, the only person who has the authority to remove Robinson. They said they believe Robinson is behind Miller’s emails and communications.

“Scott is someone I supported, I considered a good friend,” said Evans, who was previously employed by the county party. “Ever since he’s gotten into cahoots with Dave, he’s become suspicious, he’s gotten mean. It makes your gut twist a little.”

Miller said Evans was a “woman scorned” because the county party had decided to terminate her to cut costs.

‘Bullies need to be called out’

Aimee Winder Newton, a Republican County Council member, publicly spoke out against Robinson in 2018. It came shortly after Robinson told The Tribune editorial board that high rates of youth suicide in Utah were due to “the lifestyle that the gays are leading,” including too many sexual partners — sometimes running into the thousands.

“This isn’t the first time Scott Miller has allowed Robinson to run amok and enable his bad behavior,” Newton said in an interview. “Miller was afraid to fire Robinson in 2018 and is apparently afraid to get rid of him now.”

Last September, Newton said, she again began raising concerns about Robinson and the negative impact he was having on Republican races, where Democrats had vastly outraised GOP candidates across the board in Salt Lake County.

“Dave is a loose cannon,” she texted Miller. “I have donors who are scared off by Dave Robinson’s involvement in some of the county campaigns.”

Both Miller and Robinson responded to Newton’s texts in a lengthy email.

Newton also asked Miller in a text if he was aware of Robinson name-calling of other candidates. Robinson responded in the email by confirming his belittling names for Newton specifically, including “Aimee eat a burger” and “Which way is the wind blowing Aimee.”

“I certainly haven’t seen anything change,” Newton told The Tribune. “I continue to get harassing emails. I think it’s important for us to recognize a party organization should be held accountable if there’s mistreatment there.”

Newton said she hasn’t spoken to Robinson or responded to messages from him for years.

In January, Robinson wrote at least two long emails to party members rehashing the concerns Newton shared about him months prior. In one of the emails, cowritten by Robinson and Miller, Robinson complained of her “preoccupation” with him, even as she kept ignoring him. He then questioned her sexuality and the sexuality of her family members, according to the email shared with The Tribune.

In another email, he tried to connect Newton to his unsuccessful HOA lawsuit, tying it to her encouragement of other women to come forward with their claims about him.

As women began sharing their complaints about Robinson, Robinson sent several aggressive emails and texts to Republican women, ostensibly to figure out who had leaked information about him. Those messages were shared with The Tribune.

In a text to Stringham, he wrote, “There are also rumblings that a small group of women (whom some refer to as the ‘mean girls’) continues to disrupt and undermine my communications efforts in the county party.”

Robinson sent similar “mean girls” messages to Newton, Preston and Bagley. He also alluded to a defamation lawsuit he claimed to have won, where he cost his detractors millions and “destroyed their family.”

Newton had encouraged other women to tell their stories, she told The Tribune, because “bullies need to be called out.”

 

[Goredho 17408]

On 3/26/2021 at 7:50 PM, Dr. Teeth said:

This dude just ran for Congress in NV and lost. He is from NJ. Now he has a TX accent and is pretending to ride a bull while spouting crazy shit. There will be a crazy race to be the worst GQP candidate ever.

 

 

Ric Flair would be proud.

[Goredho 17408]

On 3/26/2021 at 9:12 PM, bolverk said:

Texas has become ground zero for fauxbois from around the country to come and play cowboys. Sadly, it's become a winning strategy as there are a sufficient number of rubes to welcome them that we've become the nation's dude ranch for Republicans to play out their insecure, hyper-masculine, tough guy, fantasies.

Move.  I mean, if intelligent, rational and hard working people continue to prop up Texas as a first world economy while the rubes keep electing wrestling heels to run the state, it ain’t going to change.  You’re just enabling them and allowing them to trumpet the “success” of their policies that would lead to collapse (like the power grid) if left to fend for itself. 

[texas08 1599]

Thanks for the spy work Mrs Whiggins, it’s appreciated. Always good to know how those idiots are trending.

[Asithappens 974]

On 3/26/2021 at 9:28 PM, Mrs Whiggins said:

This is like a seamy version of The Music Man. Instead of salespeople riding the train from town to town, it's politicians moving district to district nationwide conning people. Ugh. At least Harold Hill was redeemable, thanks to Marian the Librarian. I don't see any redemption here but Professor Hill's Think System of Voting might be a good counter measure if the Texas Democratic Party can convince the GOP voters to try it. "If you think about touching the screen, then you'll have already voted for Big Dan!"

Pos rep for any Music Man reference. 

[Asithappens 974]

2 hours ago, Goredho said:

Move.  I mean, if intelligent, rational and hard working people continue to prop up Texas as a first world economy while the rubes keep electing wrestling heels to run the state, it ain’t going to change.  You’re just enabling them and allowing them to trumpet the “success” of their policies that would lead to collapse (like the power grid) if left to fend for itself. 

Probably too true. 

In many ways, Texas is Idiocracy in action.

[Longhorn_Fan68 33874]

On 3/26/2021 at 10:45 PM, tx 3 putt said:

 

Canada - Ted Cruz 

Maryland - Dan Patrick 

North Dakota - Ken Paxton 

Aberdeen, Scotland - Dan Crensaw

Atlanta - Allen West

South Dakota - Kevin Brady

Maryland - Chip Roy 

Louisiana - Michael Cloud

New Mexico - Nathan Hetch 

 

Is this list comprehensive? I'm betting it's not.

On 3/26/2021 at 10:25 PM, Mrs Whiggins said:

That saying about “Don’t California my Texas” is maybe not the saying Texans need to be worried about. Ted, Danny, Allan West, and this guy aren’t from California....

Seriously. That slogan is so fucking cringey. 

[Js1 85410]

8 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

Is this list comprehensive? I'm betting it's not.

Seriously. That slogan is so fucking cringey. 

Don’t Texas my America 

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

 

 

Because they were fine with it....they also were fine with spraying protestors outside of a church in DC and becoming seditionists attempting to overthrow the government.

[tx 3 putt 77061]

19 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

Is this list comprehensive? I'm betting it's not.

 

just some douche bags off the top of my head 

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

3 hours ago, texas08 said:

Thanks for the spy work Mrs Whiggins, it’s appreciated. Always good to know how those idiots are trending.

I agree. Don't give them attention but instead pay attention.

[JimmyJames 12271]

15 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

 

 

Because they were fine with it....they also were fine with spraying protestors outside of a church in DC and becoming seditionists attempting to overthrow the government.

The Republican Party has become a fascist/nihilistic (not sure which) criminal organization that cares about nothing except setting up a white nationalist apartheid in America that kills all dissent while it loots the country, destroys democracy and sets up a Russian style oligarchy.

Other than that they’re ok though. 

[Aqua Buddha 14598]

We need to redirect as many vaccines as possible to the states showing new surges and open it up to everyone there.  Also send personnel to help vaccinate.  Flood the market.

[Nivek 16945]

31 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

The Republican Party has become a fascist/nihilistic (not sure which) criminal organization that cares about nothing except setting up a white nationalist apartheid in America that kills all dissent while it loots the country, destroys democracy and sets up a Russian style oligarchy.

Other than that they’re ok though. 

Racism is a red herring.  The only ideology of the GQP is to enrich the elite.  The suppression of votes and disenfranchisement, xenophobia, and constant need for an 'enemy' to rail against is there to win elections and enrich the elite.  

[Bojack 2081]

Here are Tucker and that Jesse Kelly fuck, whose videos a few of our resident Trumpkins have posted, screaming the quiet part out loud.  They agree that we'll have to be fascist(their word) because Hunter Biden.  

  

 

 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33874]

going to?

[ChuckNorrisActionJeans 2678]

1 hour ago, Bojack said:

Here are Tucker and that Jesse Kelly fuck, whose videos a few of our resident Trumpkins have posted, screaming the quiet part out loud.  They agree that we'll have to be fascist(their word) because Hunter Biden.  

  

 

 

Accurate Twitter reply: Tucker always looks like a toddler watching his parents fuck

[Biff Tannen 45691]

1 hour ago, Nivek said:

Racism is a red herring.  The only ideology of the GQP is to enrich the elite.  The suppression of votes and disenfranchisement, xenophobia, and constant need for an 'enemy' to rail against is there to win elections and enrich the elite.  

I was in Junction yesterday and stopped to get beer at a gas station. Guy was at the counter pre-paying for gas.

”Man, it’s almost $3/gallon now. Thanks Joe Biden.”

I loudly guffawed.  These people have zero critical thinking skills, nor do they have any desire to pay attention to the real world.  As long as they have a bogey man to blame what they consider their misfortunes on, they will continue their existence. 

The GOP figured this out and they will never stop. 

 

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

1 hour ago, Biff Tannen said:

 These people have zero critical thinking skills, nor do they have any desire to pay attention to the real world.  As long as they have a bogey man to blame what they consider their misfortunes on, they will continue their existence. 

The GOP figured this out and they will never stop. 

 

Here's another bogey man besides Joseph Biden, the godless liberals poisoning public education. Thus, not one, but two bills introduced this month in....wait for it...you'll never guess...come on, you know it...

Arkansas.

HB1701 TO ALLOW CREATIONISM AS A THEORY OF HOW THE EARTH CAME TO EXIST TO BE TAUGHT IN KINDERGARTEN THROUGH GRADE TWELVE CLASSES IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND OPEN-ENROLLMENT PUBLIC CHARTER SCHOOLS.

And

HB1830 AN ACT TO CREATE THE RELIGIOUS VIEWPOINT ANTIDISCRIMINATION ACT; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.

The first bill proposes any public school teacher can teach 'creationism' as a 'valid' theory and the second bill doesn't allow a student to be graded (it's in the text) for asserting that the above is the only acceptable 'fact' for homework, etc. It's going to pull very very hard on the window with respect to religion and government. Starting small with local politics and they are working their way up the ladder.

Like you said, they will never stop. They've been taken over by the evangelicals and the elite are happy to use them for it.

 

[TheStoicPaisano 9922]

Gov. Noem and Lil Nas X are beefing over sneakers and everything is dumb.

[Brisketexan 105154]

Gov. Noem and Lil Nas X are beefing over sneakers and everything is dumb.

I will say, that sneaker thing is asinine. Just feeds red meat to the dipshits and their culture wars.

[Royalfan5 2354]

19 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

I will say, that sneaker thing is asinine. Just feeds red meat to the dipshits and their culture wars.

Sure a Jewish guy, a Greek, and two Indonesian/Dutchman can run with the Satan and no one bats an eye, but Lil Nas X interacting with him is apparently too far for some reason 

[Hookah Horns 3083]

2 hours ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

Here's another bogey man besides Joseph Biden, the godless liberals poisoning public education. Thus, not one, but two bills introduced this month in....wait for it...you'll never guess...come on, you know it...

Arkansas.

HB1701 TO ALLOW CREATIONISM AS A THEORY OF HOW THE EARTH CAME TO EXIST TO BE TAUGHT IN KINDERGARTEN THROUGH GRADE TWELVE CLASSES IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND OPEN-ENROLLMENT PUBLIC CHARTER SCHOOLS.

And

HB1830 AN ACT TO CREATE THE RELIGIOUS VIEWPOINT ANTIDISCRIMINATION ACT; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.

The first bill proposes any public school teacher can teach 'creationism' as a 'valid' theory and the second bill doesn't allow a student to be graded (it's in the text) for asserting that the above is the only acceptable 'fact' for homework, etc. It's going to pull very very hard on the window with respect to religion and government. Starting small with local politics and they are working their way up the ladder.

Like you said, they will never stop. They've been taken over by the evangelicals and the elite are happy to use them for it.

 

This passing would really piss me off. 

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

11 minutes ago, Hookah Horns said:

This passing would really piss me off. 

They've both been sent to the Education Committee so time will tell. It's Arkansas so be prepared.

[Chuckie Finster 22700]

I will say, that sneaker thing is asinine. Just feeds red meat to the dipshits and their culture wars.

I mean, it’s a publicity stunt from a random 21 year old rapper. The dipshits’ ability to turn ANYTHING into a political culture is what is asinine.

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

17 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

I mean, it’s a publicity stunt from a random 21 year old rapper. The dipshits’ ability to turn ANYTHING into a political culture is what is asinine.

Well duh, why be outraged at a potential $84 Billion dollars in fraudulent PPE loans (SEE: COVID thread) when saying Satan Sneakers has such a satisfactory Church Lady Shock feature. No one wants to talk about the enormous tax dollars being wasted on the kind of boring fraud and money stolen by upright Christian business people doing the Lord's will when one can cancel people for spending their personal money on footwear made by a random musician. Makes total sense.....

[Cacti 191]

8 hours ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

 

 

 

Sloppy journalism/fake news. If Cole had done a quick Google search, he would have known that Republicans Mike Pence, Andy Biggs, Matt Gaetz, Sean Duffy, Dusty Johnson, Pete Stauber, John Joyce, Ted Cruz and Lindsay Graham visited the border while Trump was President.

[Guest Lobo]

Yeah, Gaetz was down there all the time.  Almost like he was looking for a Nestor backup or something.  

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

56 minutes ago, Lobo said:

Yeah, Gaetz was down there all the time.  Almost like he was looking for a Nestor backup or something.  

Going to the border /= objecting to the policy, so I agree with Cactus' assertion that it is sloppy journalism and my bad for reposting an erroneous tweet. Sen Graham initially objected to Trump's policy of child separation due to its intentional cruelty and then he suddenly shut up about it. Was it because the policy stopped being cruel? No.

Bipartisan effort to solve issues at the border needs to start with officials being honest which, is not something for which to hold out hope. Even former SoS Pompeo, for whom I have a well known dislike, is frank about immigration: most people fleeing their country, their homes, their businesses do not want to leave. They leave because they fear for their life or the lives of those closest to them or that the economic opportunity has dissolved due to corruption, extortion, etc. Pompeo got that right, and Biden is in agreement with that observation. It's only a part of the issue, but it's an important one. What we seem to see now is what one can see in third world countries with civil unrest, economic stagnation, and food shortages--a circular migration pattern that starts in Central America, passes through Mexico, to the US and then loops back around as migrants are expelled and then start the process anew.

I've never spent much time reading about the Boland Agreement and the CIA with respect to Iran-Contra or the later Panama invasion, but its all a hot mess that we simply don't seem to acknowledge.

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1 hour ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

Going to the border /= objecting to the policy, so I agree with Cactus' assertion that it is sloppy journalism and my bad for reposting an erroneous tweet. Sen Graham initially objected to Trump's policy of child separation due to its intentional cruelty and then he suddenly shut up about it. Was it because the policy stopped being cruel? No.

Bipartisan effort to solve issues at the border needs to start with officials being honest which, is not something for which to hold out hope. Even former SoS Pompeo, for whom I have a well known dislike, is frank about immigration: most people fleeing their country, their homes, their businesses do not want to leave. They leave because they fear for their life or the lives of those closest to them or that the economic opportunity has dissolved due to corruption, extortion, etc. Pompeo got that right, and Biden is in agreement with that observation. It's only a part of the issue, but it's an important one. What we seem to see now is what one can see in third world countries with civil unrest, economic stagnation, and food shortages--a circular migration pattern that starts in Central America, passes through Mexico, to the US and then loops back around as migrants are expelled and then start the process anew.

I've never spent much time reading about the Boland Agreement and the CIA with respect to Iran-Contra or the later Panama invasion, but its all a hot mess that we simply don't seem to acknowledge.

Yup.  There is one approach that makes the most sense and is the most logical.

If you want to keep people from COMING here, we need those people not to LEAVE somewhere else.  So long as the places they LEAVE are shitty enough, they will leave them and try to go elsewhere.  And in this hemisphere, we're the most conveniently located "elsewhere."

End the War on Drugs, so the governments of Mexico and Central America can be more stable and functional than they are.  They don't have to be perfect....just functional.  Want to do even more?  Offer incentives for business investment in Mexico and Central America.  And it has the added bonus of turning some of our supply chain away from China.  We can create a win-win-win.  Fewer people fleeing to come here, more commerce in our hemisphere increasing the flow of funds and local prosperity, and we can also eventually carve some of that away from China.

Nope.  We won't do that.  Gotta have brown people to hold up as the demon horde coming to rape our women and such, to motivate the masses to vote for me because I'll protect you with my machine gun bacon.

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The man is legitimately insane.  Seriously, a complete break from reality.  Makes you understand how he became a crackhead.

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Loondell. 

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13 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

The man is legitimately insane.  Seriously, a complete break from reality.  Makes you understand how he became a crackhead.

He’s got a new “Mattress Topper” he’s selling. I’ve seen where he’s got a 30 minute infomercial hawking it. He’s probably just trying to sell it to the cult. Instant market. 

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Just now, WhatTheBuck said:

He’s got a new “Mattress Topper” he’s selling. I’ve seen where he’s got a 30 minute infomercial hawking it. He’s probably just trying to sell it to the cult. Instant market. 

As I've noted here for years now, it's not a bad strategy.  Remember what Jerry Garcia said about Deadheads years ago?  They're like people who like licorice.....not everyone likes licorice, but people who like licorice REALLY like licorice.

I can't sell MAGA gear to everyone.  But a lotta MAGATs will buy everything I make.  Fleece them.  This movement is inextricably intertwined with massive grift -- it's an inherent part of its nature and character.  So, get some, Loondell!  I continue to regret that I have some conscience, and haven't gotten in on the grift.

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17 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

The man is legitimately insane.  Seriously, a complete break from reality.  Makes you understand how he became a crackhead.

When Albertsons opened one of their new flagship stores here in Boise I think in 2018 he was at the grand opening with his My Pillow truck trying to sell pillows to customers. He just sat at the back of the truck the entire time while no one cared. He looked sad and despirate, and looks even worse now. 

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1 minute ago, shnsajax said:

When Albertsons opened one of their new flagship stores here in Boise I think in 2018 he was at the grand opening with his My Pillow truck trying to sell pillows to customers. He just sat at the back of the truck the entire time while no one cared. He looked sad and despirate, and looks even worse now. 

When he does that now, he'll fly some Trump flags and sell Patriot Pillows, a percentage of the revenues will be used to Stop the Steal, and Build the Wall, and Put America First!  The gullible morons will spend their Social Security check on it.

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4 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

When he does that now, he'll fly some Trump flags and sell Patriot Pillows, a percentage of the revenues will be used to Stop the Steal, and Build the Wall, and Put America First!  The gullible morons will spend their stimulus check on it.

FIFY

[WhatTheBuck 28788]

2 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

As I've noted here for years now, it's not a bad strategy.  Remember what Jerry Garcia said about Deadheads years ago?  They're like people who like licorice.....not everyone likes licorice, but people who like licorice REALLY like licorice.

Oh yes, I know that quote well. He also talked about how you can’t run away and join the circus anymore and that was part of the appeal to the Deadhead experience. I’ve thought about how the MAGA crowd took that concept and turned it upside down in the exact opposite of the concept of peace and love.

I’ve also noticed how much Deadheads and college football fans resemble each other, the only differences being between the clothing they wear, the songs they sing, and the inebriants they favor. But that’s probably a discussion to be had elsewhere. 

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On 3/26/2021 at 8:50 PM, Dr. Teeth said:

This dude just ran for Congress in NV and lost. He is from NJ. Now he has a TX accent and is pretending to ride a bull while spouting crazy shit. There will be a crazy race to be the worst GQP candidate ever.

 

 

Wait, if Texas has BIG problems and we've been run completely by Republicans for 20 years now, doesn't that mean we should be voting for your opponent, Big Dan?

 

On 3/26/2021 at 8:59 PM, Bama Chick said:

Having a normal one up there in Michigan.
 

Wonder who brought the donuts to that meeting.

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18 hours ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

Here's another bogey man besides Joseph Biden, the godless liberals poisoning public education. Thus, not one, but two bills introduced this month in....wait for it...you'll never guess...come on, you know it...

Arkansas.

HB1701 TO ALLOW CREATIONISM AS A THEORY OF HOW THE EARTH CAME TO EXIST TO BE TAUGHT IN KINDERGARTEN THROUGH GRADE TWELVE CLASSES IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND OPEN-ENROLLMENT PUBLIC CHARTER SCHOOLS.

And

HB1830 AN ACT TO CREATE THE RELIGIOUS VIEWPOINT ANTIDISCRIMINATION ACT; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.

The first bill proposes any public school teacher can teach 'creationism' as a 'valid' theory and the second bill doesn't allow a student to be graded (it's in the text) for asserting that the above is the only acceptable 'fact' for homework, etc. It's going to pull very very hard on the window with respect to religion and government. Starting small with local politics and they are working their way up the ladder.

Like you said, they will never stop. They've been taken over by the evangelicals and the elite are happy to use them for it.

 

The old adage "you can't fix stupid" is once again shown to be true.

And the worst thing, imo at least, it's dumb-fuck "christians" who are behind this garbage. Evangelical "christians" are just plain pieces of shit anymore.