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My favorite part of the Republican response last night was when Tim Scott told us that he frequently deals with racism, even though he is a United States Senator.  And then literally a minute later he told us that America is not a racist country.

Let's leave aside for a minute that "not a racist country" isn't setting the bar terribly high.  "America--not a racist country" isn't really a great tagline.

But shit--does he not appreciate the contradiction that he just put out there?

. . . but don't worry, white America--you're not a racist country.  Trust Tim Scott (even though he frequently encounters racism himself).

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My favorite part of the Republican response last night was when Tim Scott told us that he frequently deals with racism, even though he is a United States Senator.  And then literally a minute later he told us that America is not a racist country.
Let's leave aside for a minute that "not a racist country" isn't setting the bar terribly high.  "America--not a racist country" isn't really a great tagline.
But shit--does he not appreciate the contradiction that he just put out there?
. . . but don't worry, white America--you're not a racist country.  Trust Tim Scott (even though he frequently encounters racism himself).

A little me too from this section. Oh Tim, a progressive liberal called you “Uncle Tom”? I’d love to hear the details on that. Was this a person of color? Is that all they called you? What have the people in your own party called you? The fact that you’re still standing there giving this speech after the last admin’s overtly racist policies is....something. I’m sure there are a few constituents in SC who’ve said a few choice things about that.
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27 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

My favorite part of the Republican response last night was when Tim Scott told us that he frequently deals with racism, even though he is a United States Senator.  And then literally a minute later he told us that America is not a racist country.

Let's leave aside for a minute that "not a racist country" isn't setting the bar terribly high.  "America--not a racist country" isn't really a great tagline.

But shit--does he not appreciate the contradiction that he just put out there?

. . . but don't worry, white America--you're not a racist country.  Trust Tim Scott (even though he frequently encounters racism himself).

Yes, I'd love to ask how you can reconcile "America is not a racist country" to "I frequently get profiled by cops and have been called the n-word and Uncle Tom."

What DOES Tim Scott think a racist country's actions would entail?  That he's not a slave, therefore - not racist? 

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16 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Yes, I'd love to ask how you can reconcile "America is not a racist country" to "I frequently get profiled by cops and have been called the n-word and Uncle Tom."

What DOES Tim Scott think a racist country's actions would entail?  That he's not a slave, therefore - not racist? 

The question of whether the US is racist is a perfect wedge issue since it comports to the narratives of either side. The issue is there is not a commonly accepted definition for “a racist country” or an accepted threshold between “a racist country” and a “non-racist country.” 

So we have groups functioning in information bubbles.  One bubble listens to talk radio, watches tucker, participates in the DT threads, identifies with Trump, and has been told over and over again that they are the real victim and the other side is prone to overreaction that is dangerous to them.  They think racism doesn’t exist or if it does it is really minor or maybe they are even fine with it.  They mock racism with sayings like, guns aren’t racist, covid isn’t racist, etc. Grasping complex ideas like systemic racism isn’t easy for them. 
 

There is a reason the question is being posed by the right.

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5 minutes ago, GW Hayduke said:

The question of whether the US is racist is a perfect wedge issue since it comports to the narratives of either side. The issue is there is not a commonly accepted definition for “a racist country” or an accepted threshold between “a racist country” and a “non-racist country.” 

So we have groups functioning in information bubbles.  One bubble listens to talk radio, watches tucker, participates in the DT threads, identifies with Trump, and has been told over and over again that they are the real victim and the other side is prone to overreaction that is dangerous to them.  They think racism doesn’t exist or if it does it is really minor or maybe they are even fine with it.  They mock racism with sayings like, guns aren’t racist, covid isn’t racist, etc. Grasping complex ideas like systemic racism isn’t easy for them. 
 

There is a reason the question is being posed by the right.

I agree with that.  But my point (and I think Js1's point) is that Scott brought that into very stark relief when he said "I get pulled over all the time for being black," but "this is not a racist country."  Even for the simple-minded, those are pretty contradictory thoughts.

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4 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

I agree with that.  But my point (and I think Js1's point) is that Scott brought that into very stark relief when he said "I get pulled over all the time for being black," but "this is not a racist country."  Even for the simple-minded, those are pretty contradictory thoughts.

Yes.

Normal functioning people would think that the police pulling them over for being black and (allegedly) being called the n-word and Uncle Tom by (presumably) white Senate colleagues would constitute a racist country.

The police and the US Senate are two examples of the government being racist.  The United States government.  Therefore....

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1 minute ago, Ghost of LL said:

I agree with that.  But my point (and I think Js1's point) is that Scott brought that into very stark relief when he said "I get pulled over all the time for being black," but "this is not a racist country."  Even for the simple-minded, those are pretty contradictory thoughts.

Sure. It can be considered obviously contradictory from the perspective from within one bubble. 
 

A view from the other bubble might be analogous to equating “a racist country” to something like an “evil country” in that sure maybe might dad yells at me sometimes but he isn’t evil.

There isn’t a commonly accepted definition for “a racist country.”

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4 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Yes.

Normal functioning people would think that the police pulling them over for being black and (allegedly) being called the n-word and Uncle Tom by (presumably) white Senate colleagues would constitute a racist country.

The police and the US Senate are two examples of the government being racist.  The United States government.  Therefore....

My point is that without a commonly accepted definition to work from, these conversations are pointless and simply contribute to it being a wedge issue. There is a reason the GOP response to Biden included that narrative

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4 hours ago, Chad Fuck said:

A little me too from this section. Oh Tim, a progressive liberal called you “Uncle Tom”? I’d love to hear the details on that. Was this a person of color? Is that all they called you? What have the people in your own party called you? The fact that you’re still standing there giving this speech after the last admin’s overtly racist policies is....something. I’m sure there are a few constituents in SC who’ve said a few choice things about that.

Someone should ask him what he thinks about the fact that the person holding the “Blacks For Trump” sign during the Jan. 6 coup attempt was a white dude.

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1 hour ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Someone should ask him what he thinks about the fact that the person holding the “Blacks For Trump” sign during the Jan. 6 coup attempt was a white dude.

Trump, "There was supposed to be a black guy at the 1/6 rally holding a 'Blacks for Trump' sign, but we lost him at the Lake Travis Trump Boat Parade; 'cause...well...you know."  

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6 hours ago, Ghost of LL said:

My favorite part of the Republican response last night was when Tim Scott told us that he frequently deals with racism, even though he is a United States Senator.  And then literally a minute later he told us that America is not a racist country.

Let's leave aside for a minute that "not a racist country" isn't setting the bar terribly high.  "America--not a racist country" isn't really a great tagline.

But shit--does he not appreciate the contradiction that he just put out there?

. . . but don't worry, white America--you're not a racist country.  Trust Tim Scott (even though he frequently encounters racism himself).

Scott is just one of many in a growing class of “coon capitalists” who have learned to monetize their willingness to advance the fiction of an egalitarian America.

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Daycare is close to a thousand bucks a month for me, and that’s for just one in Pre-K (it gets cheaper as they get older).  How the hell poor people manage to work ‘real jobs’ at mcds or the warehouse, while having preschool kiddos, blows my mind.  

Investing in children to have a stable upbringing is socialism?  I’d hope there are controls in place to ensure money doesn’t get pocketed and spent on TVs or some shit...but still

 

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6 hours ago, Ghost of LL said:

I agree with that.  But my point (and I think Js1's point) is that Scott brought that into very stark relief when he said "I get pulled over all the time for being black," but "this is not a racist country."  Even for the simple-minded, those are pretty contradictory thoughts.

Oh, so you are saying you haven't yet grown accustomed to Republicans routinely holding two diametrically opposed opinions at the same time, and often saying them one after the other.  It's been a thing for awhile.

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58 minutes ago, Homercles said:

Daycare is close to a thousand bucks a month for me, and that’s for just one in Pre-K (it gets cheaper as they get older).  How the hell poor people manage to work ‘real jobs’ at mcds or the warehouse, while having preschool kiddos, blows my mind.  

Investing in children to have a stable upbringing is socialism?  

 

 

Well, shit yes it is.  'Cause Uncle Donald didn't come up with the idea.

 

 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, Patricio Swayze said:

Someone I know saw this car in Houston.  Completely sane person. 
 

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I would say it is fairly safe to assume that the person who put that on their vehicle is suffering from some form of mental illness. Again, just like Lin Wood letting you know exactly who he is, this person also needs to get a wellness check and a visit to the near psychiatric ward for tests. You can take issue with this administration (Seems counterintuitive to not like them, but I digress), but once you are out amongst the general public putting that message out it's time to have a real life timeout before that person does something to hurt others.

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