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6 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

I don't know.  I think the Dems are gonna have to go the extra mile....is there a guy named Bill Whiter that they can run?  Perhaps Bob Milquetoast?

We could probably get William the Subdued over from Wales. 

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This is such unbridled horseshit. I live in fucking California, and I'm not sure if I've ever seen a Fuck Trump shirt/flag/bumper sticker/whatever in person. I can't go a day without seeing Let's Go B

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Did not have former Skid Row lead singer Sebastian Bach talking shit to MAGA cult members on my bingo card. But here we are.  

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7 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

We see this with Huffines and Abbott.  We see this with Trump willing to all but endorse Stacey Abrams as a way to fuck over Georgia.

I think a lot of Republican politicians, consciously or not, realize that they aren't going to be attracting droves of newly converted Republicans from the Dems and the Indies and the newly-minted voters in the 18-20 crowd, and some of them even realize they are driving away moderates.

Which means they are now fighting each other over what's left, and that means a shitload of purity tests and picking dumbass hills to die upon as they out MAGA each other.

Huffines vs Abbott is just one of probably quite a few internal GOP battles going on across the US.

And I'm not going to be surprised if we see Republican primary opponents running 3rd-party/MAGA Party challenges against incumbent Republicans in the general.

Texas needs a Dem who is charismatic and organized to step up in a big way, because this is an opportunity that is going to be wasted if they don't.

That Dem was pre-presidential run Beto. Not sure he could win back any of the suburban Houston Brodozer brigade at this point. I wonder if "Look, we disagree about guns...but if elected governor, I'm still going to have to work with a Republican controlled legislature, so there's no way a gun control bill would even get to my desk. My job, as I see it is to stop this ridiculously regressive social agenda. I want our elected officials to focus on things that benefit ALL Texans, like infrastructure, healthcare, and education." would be an effective message for that crowd. (yea, didn't think so...sigh) 

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8 hours ago, Satchel said:

Nothing so clearly describes today’s Republican Party better than this video clip. The Lieutenant governor is insane:

 

On some of the gun-specific threads I've brought up our fucked up mythology. This is a reflection of that.

To start with, everything is clearly either good or evil. We want to believe we're fighting the Nazis no matter where we send our armed forces to kill people. Frankly, I don't like the terminology "bad guys" in describing an enemy. It feeds this naive notion of a clear moral line. If you must dehumanize an enemy to kill them (it's effective for a fighting force) use a slur, call them targets, call them dickheads. Hell, call them white tailed deer. 

American mythology is in movies, TV, and thriller novels. A problem presents itself in a bad man. Early westerns actually indicated that the fight was between two lawless men: one benevolent, one malevolent. The benevolent guy wins but must leave (riding into the sunset) because he doesn't fit in this society either. Our bad guy shoots their worse guy. 

Now it's pure good versus pure bad (the rise of comic book hero movies does not bode well with me). How do we solve this problem in our gun society? We shoot the problem dead. Over and over and over. The solution is a bullet.

Mix in psuedo-Christianity to inform the hoopleheads of what is good and evil and you have the makings of a jihad. Falwell, Robertson, and thousands of yokel preachers ventured into politics and declare illusory liberals evil. Then they slap that evil on environmentalists, feminists, Democrats, and you if you're not of like mind.

Hoopleheads are literalists. The evil Socialist Dems aren't the product of cynical hyperbole; they're real enemies bent on destroying the violent, stupid, psuedo-Christian paradise we have going here.

What does every story you watch tell you how to solve this conflict with bad guys?

IMHO, it's deeper than politics. The GQP hit the mother lode of American malevolence towards all who aren't "us."

In the movie Nixon (actually very good and fairer than you'd expect), Dick Nixon stands before the portrait of Kennedy in a shadowy White House.

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Of course, it's idealized. Nixon muses, "they look at him and see what they want to be. They look at me and see what they are."

One of the great lines of any historical movies I've ever heard. 

None of this is heading in a good direction no matter what happens in our nearly nullified elections. The irony deaf GQP, Trumpists, and militias actually think they're the good guys. They're coming to get the bad guys.

These fuckers flying a black American flag announcing they won't take prisoners? I and others are way ahead of you on that one. I'm not a violent man, but neither am I easily cowed or tamed.

 

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49 minutes ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

That Dem was pre-presidential run Beto. Not sure he could win back any of the suburban Houston Brodozer brigade at this point. I wonder if "Look, we disagree about guns...but if elected governor, I'm still going to have to work with a Republican controlled legislature, so there's no way a gun control bill would even get to my desk. My job, as I see it is to stop this ridiculously regressive social agenda. I want our elected officials to focus on things that benefit ALL Texans, like infrastructure, healthcare, and education." would be an effective message for that crowd. (yea, didn't think so...sigh) 

Honestly, running on a "I will have to work with a GOP legislature, so my job is to stop the regressive, crazy bullshit and negotiate common-sense, compromise legislation that benefits all Texans" isn't a bad message.

Beto cannot implement some vague socialist agenda on his own.  Abbott and the Lege is making sure there's a GOP majority in the Lege for another decade.  At worst, Beto and a GOP lege would pass nothing of consequence in 2023 and 2025 sessions.  Best case scenario - actual common-sense, bipartisan legislation comes out of the House or it gets vetoed. 

It's not a bad message.  People claim to love divided government so much - prove it. 

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8 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

Hoopleheads are literalists.

I wish that were the problem. If it were, the right wing would be peaceful, generous, and forgiving. 

Your point about Hollywood fiction influencing the American simpleton’s understanding of politics and culture is dead on. I mean, just listen to any episode of Alex Jones and you’ll hear him cite two or three movies as metaphors for some real world situation he’s bitching about. Most of his conspiracy theories are just old sci-fi or horror or fantasy movie plots.

And I think that’s true of a majority of these rightwing idiots: they watch fantastical stories play out on screen and then interpret the real world through that lens. Which is ironic, because the same fucking rubes that internalize Hollywood fiction as prophecy can’t shut up about Hollywood’s nefarious influence on American culture. Every accusation, right?

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14 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Honestly, running on a "I will have to work with a GOP legislature, so my job is to stop the regressive, crazy bullshit and negotiate common-sense, compromise legislation that benefits all Texans" isn't a bad message.

It's a bad message if you want to win.  More people that vote in this fucked up state are in favor of regressive, crazy bullshit than are against it.

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3 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

It's a bad message if you want to win.  More people that vote in this fucked up state are in favor of regressive, crazy bullshit than are against it.

The abortion shit and the COVID vaccine un-mandates are unpopular with the suburban voters Abbott has to win.  

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6 hours ago, RomaVicta said:

Early westerns actually indicated that the fight was between two lawless men: one benevolent, one malevolent. The benevolent guy wins but must leave (riding into the sunset) because he doesn't fit in this society either. Our bad guy shoots their worse guy. 

did you too take the excellent upper level government elective, the politics of hollywood?

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44 minutes ago, elfenix said:

did you too take the excellent upper level government elective, the politics of hollywood?

No. I do have an RTF degree and took a Narrative Strategies course from Tom Schatz. The western narrative was discussed, but not how it's part of real life thinking.

I had this notion about our mythology long ago. It's evolved likely feeding on numerous other bits of information and analysis gathered along the way. I'd be shocked if the idea originates with me.

I'm but a humble parrot unaware of the provenance of his speech.

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No. I do have an RTF degree and took a Narrative Strategies course from Tom Schatz. The western narrative was discussed, but not how it's part of real life thinking.

I had this notion about our mythology long ago. It's evolved likely feeding on numerous other bits of information and analysis gathered along the way. I'd be shocked if the idea originates with me.

I'm but a humble parrot unaware of the provenance of his speech.

watching shane and the maltese falcon as part of a course where the prof literally put every one-word item you needed to know about for the test on the blackboard and raised his hand during the lecture to tell you to pay attention was pretty great. 

anyway, as genre westerns were to assuage the american psyche about moving into an urban society, i kinda wonder about zombie and vampire movies becoming a really big thing.  used to be that the evil baddie always lost at the end of a horror movie.  now?  they often don't.  my thought on vampire movies is that we have to ally ourselves with something that we shouldn't like to defeat something worse.  and to me that's been the military-surveillance state against terrorism.  like vampires, we understand the motives and rational of the military-surveillance state, but zombies are driven by something alien to us. 

but i'm just some random guy on the internet and not a cultural critic. 

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This is a fucking cult.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/14/politics/glenn-youngkin-january-6-rioters/index.html

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At a rally Wednesday night for the Virginia gubernatorial candidate Glenn Youngkin, attendees pledged allegiance to a flag they were told had been carried at the "Stop the Steal" rally on January 6 -- the same rally that led to a violent insurrection at the US Capitol later that same day.

"She's carrying an American flag that was carried at the peaceful rally with Donald J. Trump on January 6," said Martha Boneta, the emcee of the event, of a woman who stepped onstage with the flag.

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The rally, which was headlined by former Trump White House political adviser Steve Bannon, was designed to support the entire Republican ticket in Virginia -- which Youngkin is leading. Youngkin was not in attendance, although the former President called in to praise the GOP nominee as a "great gentleman, truly successful."

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The rally -- and the decision to say the Pledge of Allegiance to a flag carried at a rally that had led to the first invasion of the US Capitol since the British burned it in the early 19th century -- speaks to the fundamental contradiction that sits at the heart of Youngkin's campaign: He must not alienate the Trumpist base, while at the same time creating enough distance from the controversial former President to appeal to independents and loosely affiliated Democrats.

 

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Brandon hasn’t stopped Covid yet.  What’s he waiting on?

Oh, I dunno, maybe he's waiting on your fucking mouth-breathing fellow travelers to get their shit together so we can all move on? You know that fine folks of your status and influence should do something about deprogramming them down at the Second Baptist Church.

Of course, like your modern day messiah St. Ronnie, you haven't done shit to help stop a new disease that's killing people across the country. Yes, you took care of your own but haven't given a shit about anyone else - especially now that it's no longer much of threat to your vaccinated ass. How very Christian of you and on point for hypocritical evangelicals such as yourself.

In spite of what you might believe about yourself, you're a lot fucking closer to Joel Osteen than you are to Jesus.

P.S. Negged for trolling, whatabouting, thinking you're oh-so-clever with the "Brandon" swipe, posting off-topic in the wrong thread, and being -- in general -- an entitled fucking prick.

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Oh, I dunno, maybe he's waiting on your fucking mouth-breathing fellow travelers to get their shit together so we can all move on? You know that fine folks of your status and influence should do something about deprogramming them down at the Second Baptist Church.

Of course, like your modern day messiah St. Ronnie, you haven't done shit to help stop a new disease that's killing people across the country. Yes, you took care of your own but haven't given a shit about anyone else - especially now that it's no longer much of threat to your vaccinated ass. How very Christian of you and on point for hypocritical evangelicals such as yourself.

In spite of what you might believe about yourself, you're a lot fucking closer to Joel Osteen than you are to Jesus.

P.S. Negged for trolling, whatabouting, thinking you're oh-so-clever with the "Brandon" swipe, posting off-topic in the wrong thread, and being -- in general -- an entitled fucking prick.

Your Brandon is doing a great fucking job.  You should be proud.  You elected someone who was corrupt and incompetent racist on his best days. Now he’s a diaper shitting dementia addled drooler.  Nice work!

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Your Brandon is doing a great fucking job.  You should be proud.  You elected someone who was corrupt and incompetent racist on his best days. Now he’s a diaper shitting dementia addled drooler.  Nice work!

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Are you practicing your stand-up routine or something? What the fuck is this?

If Joe is "corrupt and incompetent," what spicy adjectives would you use to describe the guy that he replaced?

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Your Brandon is doing a great fucking job.  You should be proud.  You elected someone who was corrupt and incompetent racist on his best days. Now he’s a diaper shitting dementia addled drooler.  Nice work!

So, by this, are you implicitly arguing that Trump was a better candidate?

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Ask the Big Guy and his ten points.  

Off topic trolling again. This is the GOP thread. Your silence on the state of your party and continued insistence to change the subject either means you're happy with the direction they're going or you'd just prefer not to talk about it. Care to comment on any of its batshittery?

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watching shane and the maltese falcon as part of a course where the prof literally put every one-word item you needed to know about for the test on the blackboard and raised his hand during the lecture to tell you to pay attention was pretty great. 

anyway, as genre westerns were to assuage the american psyche about moving into an urban society, i kinda wonder about zombie and vampire movies becoming a really big thing.  used to be that the evil baddie always lost at the end of a horror movie.  now?  they often don't.  my thought on vampire movies is that we have to ally ourselves with something that we shouldn't like to defeat something worse.  and to me that's been the military-surveillance state against terrorism.  like vampires, we understand the motives and rational of the military-surveillance state, but zombies are driven by something alien to us. 

but i'm just some random guy on the internet and not a cultural critic. 

Me, too.

The original Dawn of the Dead suggests to me that the zombies are people living oblivious to all but their immediate needs while the living see life as it is and have no impact on the zombies. Invasion of the Body Snatchers is famed for that theme.

Dawn of the Dead is largely set in a shopping mall. It's loaded with zombies. A critic at the time pointed out the following lines from the movie. I'm glad he did.

Why are they here?

Maybe because it's a place they liked to go.

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Bumper stickers...now that is a good grifting opportunity for the Trump masses.  And a good chance for a little chaos...

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That would be best possible scenario, the GOP and GQP would fuck themselves out of existence.  

Should we run a counter move and make bumper stickers that look the same, but say “if the GOP supports Trump, I won’t support the GOP?”  Just divide those fuckers in half and let them battle it out.

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On 10/13/2021 at 10:22 PM, Anastasis said:

Like the end of every empire. And while the blues will be pointing at the greens, and the greens pointing at the blues, nobody will even remember what the factions stood for in the long run of history. Just dysfunctional societies failing. 

I was always a Greens man myself.  Fuck Justinian and his fucking blues.

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4 minutes ago, conVINCEd said:

I interpreted it as a lazy retort to calling people Karen.

NASCAR fans started shouting “fuck Joe Biden.” But, a guy named Brandon Brown had won the race. A reporter tried to deflect from the shitbird behavior of the fans by saying “seems like they’re saying ‘let’s go Brandon’” in the post race interview.

Its funny because people tried to politely pretend idiots weren’t doing something embarrassing. 

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It also goes along with what many in that community were already doing to avoid getting kicked off social media. For example, the anti-vaccination/COVID alternate treatment people were using code language so it wouldn't trigger the alerts (disinfo) so there is this element of 'we're pulling a fast one on those stupid libtards' along with the plausible deniability that people love to taunt.

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3 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

NASCAR fans started shouting “fuck Joe Biden.” But, a guy named Brandon Brown had won the race. A reporter tried to deflect from the shitbird behavior of the fans by saying “seems like they’re saying ‘let’s go Brandon’” in the post race interview.

Its funny because people tried to politely pretend idiots weren’t doing something embarrassing. 

Thanks.  I didn’t care enough to dig any deeper.

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58 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

I love it when Johnny periodically reminds us that he frequents some of the worst far-right internet cesspools by dropping lingo you only hear in those places. You know, like stormfront or texags.

He’s such a great example of the “fuck you ive got mine” type of republican it’s almost too on point. 

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31 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

NASCAR fans started shouting “fuck Joe Biden.” But, a guy named Brandon Brown had won the race. A reporter tried to deflect from the shitbird behavior of the fans by saying “seems like they’re saying ‘let’s go Brandon’” in the post race interview.

Its funny because people tried to politely pretend idiots weren’t doing something embarrassing. 

So in other words it’s a really stupid joke. So on brand for the GQP.

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1 hour ago, wildcat09 said:

I love it when Johnny periodically reminds us that he frequents some of the worst far-right internet cesspools by dropping lingo you only hear in those places. You know, like stormfront or texags.

Ah, is that where "Big Guy and his ten points" originates from? I don't speak hillbilly dipshit, so I had no idea what he was talking about.

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