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  On 10/23/2021 at 8:39 PM, RDCanecutter said:

Throw rubric and paradigm on that list, and I'll go buy a MAGA hat.

Hell, if they outlaw "think outside the box" and "throw under the bus", I'll go get a Trump neck tattoo.

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That's a lot to unpack...Can we circle back on it later? I don't want to try to boil the ocean here. 

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  On 10/23/2021 at 8:39 PM, RDCanecutter said:

Hell, if they outlaw "think outside the box" and "throw under the bus", I'll go get a Trump neck tattoo.

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We had an outside candidate in for our open department chair position a few years back.  He was doing his presentation, which was about as bad as anything I've ever seen, and just when I thought it couldn't possibly get any worse, he started talking about his management style and he had a powerpoint slide that listed his qualities...and I SHIT YOU NOT... one of the bulleted items was "thinks outside the box."

I very nearly got up and screamed at him, "YOU DO NOT THINK OUT THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX!!  I AM 100% SURE OF THAT, BECAUSE IF YOU DID THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX, YOU WOULD HAVE FOUND SOME WAY TO CONVEY THAT OTHER THAN WRITING IT ON A FUCKING POWERPOINT SLIDE, YOU STUPID ASSHOLE!!"

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Presenting the former head football coach of the University of Tulsa Golden Hurricane and current Oklahoma state Senator Dave Rader (R), Tulsa.  Take it away, Senator:

 

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/david-rader-asian-american-slur-yellow-1247003/

 

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Oklahoma State Senator David Rader, a Republican, is under fire for referring to Asian American families as “yellow families” when speaking to a criminal justice policy analyst testifying before the legislature about the racial wealth gap, KFORreported late Friday.

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In a presentation to the state senate, Damion Shade, who works as a policy analyst at the Oklahoma Policy Institute, shared information about the history of racism in America and how it has caused a widening gap between white families’ wealth and wealth accumulated by families of color. “I believe [the racial wealth gap is widening] largely because of the multiplying effect that happens with the diminishment of capital over time. So when you are a person with less access to capital, that simultaneously leads you to have less access to education, you have less access to entrepreneurship … and to homeownership,” Shade said.

At the end of Shade’s presentation, the Republican senator asked him a question in which he referred to Asian American families using a racial slur.

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“Well into your presentation did you go to yellow families?” Rader asked Shade. “You left yellow families out for quite a while.”

“You mean Asian Americans?” Shade asked.

“You use black term, white term, brown term so I was just gonna jump in there with you,” Rader said, justifying his use of the slur, somehow trying to blame Shade for it.

“I was just making sure,” said Shader. “Making sure I understood.”

“Asian distraction,” Rader replied.

“Asian Americans,” Shader calmly corrected.

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  On 10/24/2021 at 12:24 AM, Beau Vine said:

We had an outside candidate in for our open department chair position a few years back.  He was doing his presentation, which was about as bad as anything I've ever seen, and just when I thought it couldn't possibly get any worse, he started talking about his management style and he had a powerpoint slide that listed his qualities...and I SHIT YOU NOT... one of the bulleted items was "thinks outside the box."

I very nearly got up and screamed at him, "YOU DO NOT THINK OUT THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX!!  I AM 100% SURE OF THAT, BECAUSE IF YOU DID THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX, YOU WOULD HAVE FOUND SOME WAY TO CONVEY THAT OTHER THAN WRITING IT ON A FUCKING POWERPOINT SLIDE, YOU STUPID ASSHOLE!!"

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Did he get the job?

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/oct/25/secretive-group-influence-trumps-tax-cuts

 

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Documents and recordings obtained by the Guardian shed new light on a powerful and secretive rightwing network and the influence it was able to exert on Trump administration policies favoring the super-rich.

The recordings include speeches given to the Council for National Policy (CNP) by conservative media stars including Dennis Prager, emerging Republican power players such as Charlie Kirk, and close economic advisers to Donald Trump.

Some of the previously published recordings appear to no longer be publicly available.

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The Guardian’s independently sourced recordings offer an insight into how much influence conservative economic thinkers – from bodies representing the interests of some of the richest individuals in the country – were able to exert on the supposed populist Trump.

In particular, a panel discussion at CNP’s February 2019 meeting suggests that Trump decided one of his most far-reaching economic policies on very limited evidence – on the basis of a personal conversation.

The panel involved Bill Walton, president of CNP; the Washington Times columnist and former member of the Cayman Islands Monetary Authority Richard Rahn; Jonathan Williams, chief economist at the American Legislative Exchange Council (Alec); and Stephen Moore, a one-time Trump nominee for the Federal Reserve board, whose nomination was withdrawn following revelations in the Guardian that he had failed to pay his ex-wife hundreds of thousands of dollars in alimony.

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The panelists offered a favorable assessment of the Trump administration’s economic performance, but also used the platform to claim credit for pushing the administration in the direction of radical free-market policies.

Moore claimed that he, together with Larry Kudlow, Trump’s director of the National Economic Council from 2018, had persuaded the thenpresident to offer unprecedented corporate tax cuts.

He described a meeting with Trump where they argued that the US’s corporate tax rate, relative to those among certain Asian and European competitors, was effectively a penalty on US companies, stating: “Look, you know, we’re at 40% – they are 20%. This is a big problem.”

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Posted
  On 10/23/2021 at 10:54 PM, Pescado_Rojo said:

That's a lot to unpack...Can we circle back on it later? I don't want to try to boil the ocean here. 

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Look, we're all in this together.  Let's all stay on the same page and not reinvent the wheel.  We need to keep being customer-centric, focus on the projects in the pipeline and knock out some of the low hanging fruit for some quick wins.  

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  On 10/25/2021 at 6:07 PM, JimmyJames said:

Pretty much the least surprising story ever written. Fundamentalist white Christian Right wing wackos blame the women for getting raped and ignore it/cover it up. More news at 11. 

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Boys will be boys. Those sluts were asking for it. Dressing provocatively and going out drinking with guys. What did they think was going to happen?

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  On 10/25/2021 at 7:15 PM, WhatTheBuck said:

Boys will be boys. Those sluts were asking for it. Dressing provocatively and going out drinking with guys. What did they think was going to happen?

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As sick as it is that is exactly how those universities think. They will never admit it of course, at least until the right wing fascists take over then they believe their view will be vindicated. 
 

It’s basically horny insecure assholes trying to control women so they can at least try to get laid. It’s rather pathetic but also dangerous to society. 

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  On 10/23/2021 at 7:57 PM, Lobo said:

Look, I don't know what the net-net impact of that word list is going to be, going forward.  But what I can tell you is there is a tremendous paradigm shift in many -isms, namely dynamicism 

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You sound like you know a lot about core competencies. 

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  On 10/25/2021 at 7:22 PM, JimmyJames said:

As sick as it is that is exactly how those universities think. They will never admit it of course, at least until the right wing fascists take over then they believe their view will be vindicated.


It’s basically horny insecure assholes trying to control women so they can at least try to get laid. It’s rather pathetic but also dangerous to society. 

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The “victims” shouldn’t press charges and ruin a young man’s life. They should pray to God and ask forgiveness for their own sins.

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  On 10/25/2021 at 7:35 PM, WhatTheBuck said:

The “victims” shouldn’t press charges and ruin a young man’s life. They should pray to God and ask forgiveness for their own sins.

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Yep.  How dare she allow herself to be held down and defiled by those 3 honest and good Christian boys.  How could she have allowed them to desecrate her like that.   I mean, I do declare, she even allowed one of them to put his "you know what" into her anus as she cried out.   She should have known that simply being at that party was a temptation that they could not endure.  She brought this on herself.    She is the sinner.  

 

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  On 10/25/2021 at 7:41 PM, Macanudo said:

Yep.  How dare she allow herself to be held down and defiled by those 3 honest and good Christian boys.  How could she have allowed them to desecrate her like that.   I mean, I do declare, she even allowed one of them to put his "you know what" into her anus as she cried out.   She should have known that simply being at that party was a temptation that they could not endure.  She brought this on herself.    She is the sinner. 

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Go Bears!

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  On 10/25/2021 at 7:41 PM, Macanudo said:

Letters to the Editor,  HUSTLER-1979

Pepper Your Anus

Yep.  How dare she allow herself to be held down and defiled by those 3 honest and good Christian boys.  How could she have allowed them to desecrate her like that.   I mean, I do declare, she even allowed one of them to put his "you know what" into her anus as she cried out.   She should have known that simply being at that party was a temptation that they could not endure.  She brought this on herself.    She is the sinner.  

 

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FIFY

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  On 10/25/2021 at 5:50 PM, atomheartbevo said:

 

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"Instead of considering her evidence, Axley said, Bucci started throwing questions at her: Why had Axley gone to the party? What had she had to drink? How much? “I immediately felt judged,” remembered Axley. (Bucci, who is now a Title IX investigator at Baylor University, declined to comment.)"

i mean...come on 🙄

 

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  On 10/25/2021 at 11:39 PM, mchookem said:

"Instead of considering her evidence, Axley said, Bucci started throwing questions at her: Why had Axley gone to the party? What had she had to drink? How much? “I immediately felt judged,” remembered Axley. (Bucci, who is now a Title IX investigator at Baylor University, declined to comment.)"

i mean...come on 🙄

 

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I know.  The writers of this simulation aren't even fucking trying anymore.

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  On 10/25/2021 at 11:46 PM, RDCanecutter said:

I need to find out if she pronounces it Byu-sey so I can hate her more.


Yes, but there’s just something about her. Something around the eyes, I don’t know, reminds me of… me. No. I’m sure of it, I hate her.
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  On 10/25/2021 at 11:39 PM, mchookem said:

"Instead of considering her evidence, Axley said, Bucci started throwing questions at her: Why had Axley gone to the party? What had she had to drink? How much? “I immediately felt judged,” remembered Axley. (Bucci, who is now a Title IX investigator at Baylor University, declined to comment.)"

i mean...come on 🙄

 

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What a coincidence. 

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  On 10/25/2021 at 11:39 PM, mchookem said:

 “I immediately felt judged,” remembered Axley.

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Of course you felt judged. How dare you go to a party to have fun as a college student. Women who have fun are sluts. Men who have fun are just being men doing men things. Wait until they start throwing stones at you. Real ones. That's when you know you've reached peak Gilead.

 

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  On 10/26/2021 at 3:44 PM, Brisketexan said:

It is indeed worth its own thread.

I have connections with some significant leadership in some protestant mainline denominations.  Even those denominations are in crisis by this -- political cultism has both replaced religious belief for many, yet simultaneously they cloak it in the same religious label ("I'm a Christian conservative!"), and it's so fucking warped.  And at its bottom line.....fucking mean.

The dominant ethos is just fucking meanness.  Cruelty.  Exclusion.  Attack.  The piece you cited boils it down perfectly -- if you aren't being cruel, then you aren't sufficiently "defending the faith."

Pastor burnout is very real.  Because when you realize that your flock is cruel and hateful, and openly hates you for even mentioning "you know, that's not theologically sound," that's an unsustainable place for a decent human being to be.  American Christianity is committing violent suicide -- it is completely opposed to the Christ of the Gospels, and fervently and fanatically embraces Cruel Republican Jesus, who is entirely a modern invention.

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I think @atomheartbevohas mentioned a few times how his wife's Baptist church is also suffering some sort of schism along political lines.

 

One thing that the article starts out with is the spread of disinformation among evangelical congregants. Among the Far Right, one thing that's notable is their increasing reliance on deception to draw lines, circle the wagons, and create these little tribes of untruth that then go on the warpath.

Here's another example showing the same type of behavior up in Montana.

Where Facts Were No Match for Fear
Civic boosters in central Montana hoped for some federal money to promote tourism. A disinformation campaign got in the way.

GREAT FALLS, Mont. — In the summer of 2020, as pandemic shutdowns closed businesses and racial justice protests erupted on American streets, Rae Grulkowski, a 56-year-old businesswoman who had never been involved in politics but was alarmed about what was happening to the country, found a way to make a difference.

The connection to the turbulence of national politics might not have been immediately clear.

Ms. Grulkowski had just heard about a years-in-the-making effort to designate her corner of central Montana a national heritage area, celebrating its role in the story of the American West. A small pot of federal matching money was there for the taking, to help draw more visitors and preserve underfunded local tourist attractions.

Ms. Grulkowski set about blowing up that effort with everything she had.

She collected addresses from a list of voters and spent $1,300 sending a packet denouncing the proposed heritage area to 1,498 farmers and ranchers. She told them the designation would forbid landowners to build sheds, drill wells or use fertilizers and pesticides. It would alter water rights, give tourists access to private property, create a new taxation district and prohibit new septic systems and burials on private land, she said.

None of this was true.

Yet it soon became accepted as truth by enough people to persuade Montana’s leading Republican figures and conservative organizations, including the Farm Bureau, Gov. Greg Gianforte and Senator Steve Daines, to oppose the proposal and enact a state law forbidding the federal government to create any heritage area in Montana. It is a ban that the state has no authority to enforce.

Which is how a humble bid for a small serving of Washington pork by a group of local civic boosters became yet another nasty skirmish in the bitter nationwide struggle between the forces of fact and fantasy.

From her point of view, the tale of Ms. Grulkowski’s one-woman crusade is a stirring reminder of the power of political activism. “I thought, ‘Here’s the world going crazy,’” she said, explaining her motivation.

From the vantage point of informed democratic decision making, it’s a haunting tale about how a sustained political campaign can succeed despite — or perhaps as a result of — being divorced from reality.

“Misinformation is the new playbook,” Bob Kelly, the mayor of Great Falls, said. “You don’t like something? Create alternative facts and figures as a way to undermine reality.”

The dispute has split communities, become a wedge issue in this fall’s political campaigns and left proponents of the heritage area flummoxed at their collective inability to refute falsehoods once they have become accepted wisdom.

“We’ve run into the uneducable,” Ellen Sievert, a retired historic preservation officer for Great Falls and surrounding Cascade County, said. “I don’t know how we get through that.”

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  On 10/26/2021 at 3:44 PM, Brisketexan said:

Pastor burnout is very real.  Because when you realize that your flock is cruel and hateful, and openly hates you for even mentioning "you know, that's not theologically sound," that's an unsustainable place for a decent human being to be.  American Christianity is committing violent suicide -- it is completely opposed to the Christ of the Gospels, and fervently and fanatically embraces Cruel Republican Jesus, who is entirely a modern invention.

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That's exactly what I see happening to our pastor.

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" The Christian Post, an online evangelical newspaper, published an op-ed by one of its contributors criticizing religious conservatives like Platt, Russell Moore, Beth Moore, and Ed Stetzer, the executive director of the Wheaton College Billy Graham Center, as “progressive Christian figures” who “commonly champion leftist ideology.”

 

Yeah! "Leftist Christian Ideology"  like that "love they neighbor" crap and that "whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me"  bullshit!  Who came up with that Marxist shit is no Christian!

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  On 10/26/2021 at 5:04 PM, Beau Vine said:

That's exactly what I see happening to our pastor.

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America's pastors -- at least the genuinely seminary-educated ones -- are in crisis for sure.  It's brutal.  I mean, the message of the Gospels is deep, nuanced, and can fuel centuries of discussion, but at its core, it's the great commandment.  Love God.  Love everyone else.

The message of culturally dominant American "Christianity" is....not that.  It is 1) worship false idols (political concepts and politicians -- there is no question that in the event of a conflict between what Trump says and what Christ says, American Christians will side with Trump), and 2) hate the outsiders (defined as anyone who is not fully committed to Trumpism etc., but ESPECIALLY minorities and foreigners).  American Christianity is at direct odds with the Christ of the Gospels.  And the actual Jesus from the Gospels is getting his ass kicked.  Imagine seeing something that is based on revolutionary love and kindness being used for the exact opposite purpose....it's heartbreaking.

If you are trained in following and preaching the Gospels, what does that do to you?  Many continue to fight the good fight, but many are battered, bruised, and demoralized to the point of quitting.  

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Regarding the heritage area in Montana, this one quote is just so emblematic:

In two hours of talking at his farm, Mr. Bandel could offer no evidence to back up that claim. He said he distrusted assurances that there were no such designs. “They say, ‘Don’t worry, we’re going to do it right. Don’t worry, we’ll take care of you. I think Adolf Hitler said that, too, didn’t he?”


Anytime you're dealing with somebody whose mind has made the leap from heritage area to Adolf Hitler, it's pointless to go on. They are lost forever.

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  On 10/26/2021 at 5:19 PM, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

" The Christian Post, an online evangelical newspaper, published an op-ed by one of its contributors criticizing religious conservatives like Platt, Russell Moore, Beth Moore, and Ed Stetzer, the executive director of the Wheaton College Billy Graham Center, as “progressive Christian figures” who “commonly champion leftist ideology.”

 

Yeah! "Leftist Christian Ideology"  like that "love they neighbor" crap and that "whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me"  bullshit!  Who came up with that Marxist shit is no Christian!

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I mean....you are literally correct in your characterization of this movement.

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  On 10/26/2021 at 5:23 PM, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

Regarding the heritage area in Montana, this one quote is just so emblematic:

In two hours of talking at his farm, Mr. Bandel could offer no evidence to back up that claim. He said he distrusted assurances that there were no such designs. “They say, ‘Don’t worry, we’re going to do it right. Don’t worry, we’ll take care of you. I think Adolf Hitler said that, too, didn’t he?”


Anytime you're dealing with somebody whose mind has made the leap from heritage area to Adolf Hitler, it's pointless to go on. They are lost forever.

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"The Nazis had heritage areas they made the Jews live in!"

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Re. Stoning.

I saw a film that depicted a stoning by a religious community. Everyone was expected to participate, including children. A door was placed on top of a prone sinner. One after another, the community placed stones on top of the door, until the sinner was unable to breath from the accumulated weight.

Creepy af.

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Good points from that Atlantic piece about evangelicals.  
 

1.  They’re easily politicized because they have no real core theology or it’s relatively hollow.  As a result, they just careen over the years from one cultural outrage to another.  Also allows them to conspiratorial nonsense.

2.  Brisket and others touched on it but like a third of pastors are considering quitting.  The reasons don’t surprise me but the percentage did.

3.  Pointed out that people leave churches all the time because of politics but almost no one changes their politics because of their church.

4.  The issue/problem makes a lot more sense if you look at it through a sociological  lens rather than a religious one.

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  On 10/26/2021 at 5:46 PM, Willfully Horn said:

Re. Stoning.

I saw a film that depicted a stoning by a religious community. Everyone was expected to participate, including children. A door was placed on top of a prone sinner. One after another, the community placed stones on top of the door, until the sinner was unable to breath from the accumulated weight.

Creepy af.

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"More weight."

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  On 10/26/2021 at 1:21 PM, Francisco 2.0 said:

“More than most other Christians, however, conservative evangelicals insist that they are rejecting cultural influences,” she said, “when in fact their faith is profoundly shaped by cultural and political values, by their racial identity and their Christian nationalism.”

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Great read. Thank you.

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