The GQP: Trumpist Death Cult

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11669]

8 hours ago, NWBuck said:

White men in the conspiracy-theory study were the most sensitive to perceived challenges to status, Petersen told me. But the researchers wrote that the need for chaos was “highest among racial groups facing historical injustice—in particular, Black males.”

Anti-elite conspiracy theories and tear-it-all-down rhetoric can appeal to groups who feel, sometimes quite rightly, aggrieved by long-standing injustice.

As we spoke, I recalled some of the radical rhetoric from the summer of 2020: “If this country doesn’t give us what we want, then we will burn down this system and replace it,” Hawk Newsome, the chairman of Black Lives Matter of Greater New York, said during an interview with Fox News. “I could be speaking figuratively; I could be speaking literally. It’s a matter of interpretation.” When I think about our political and social institutions, I cannot help thinking, “Just let them all burn.”

Near to this is the economic situation we are in.  This has been my sense when we all repeat "they're voting against their interests!" It comes off as snobbish to me -- I know what you need and you couldn't possibly understand.  A lot these Trumptards are the losers of our society, so they vote for firebombing our society.  A chance that chaos ends up somehow benefitting is better than a status quo where they already know they will always lose, or so the mindset goes. 

 

This is a new.  We used to have substantial economic mobility (a.k.a. "The American Dream").  Not so much anymore.

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Male workers in recent years may be less likely to experience upward absolute earnings mobility over their careers than in years past due to labor market changes. As seen in Figure 3, when examining two cohorts of men entering the labor force, Maume and Wilson (2015) find that men entering the labor force in the 2000s in lowerearning trajectories (“slowmillennials”) saw growth similar to those who entered the labor force in the 1980s (“slow-boomers”), while wages grew faster for men in higher-earning trajectories (“rapid-millennials” vs. “rapid-boomers”). However, “slow” and “steady” trajectory men made up a greater percent of the male workforce in the millennial cohort (33% and 57%, respectively) than in the boomer cohort (27% for slow boomers and 46% for steady boomers), suggesting that men were more likely to experience slower wage growth in the 2000s than in the 1980s.

You can't grind your way out of losing any more.  So why should we expect loyalty to the system?

 

https://www.irp.wisc.edu/wp/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Economic-Mobility-Memo-1-Definitions-and-Trends-April-2020.pdf

[Goredho 17408]

12 hours ago, troph said:

A dear friend came over today to talk about the bullshit of youth little league - his give back is to coach the coachless worst team in 10U. No draft protected players, no dads to coach them, some have never picked up a bat. He and I coached together. He’s a good fucking dude. He’s taught me self defense (with a gun), I taught him the joy of fly fishing, he’s talked to me about how he feels and has cried in front of me. Anyway he’s a GOOD friend. He came came over to vent about some shit and I found out ….. he’s hard core Q. 

“Dude just watch 2000 mules…”

We talked for 3 hours.

the worst part, his parents had him and his family in a self described cult as a kid obviously without his consent. He got out. But now he’s back in.

my heart hurts. 

He’s very worried about sleeper cell violence November 2024. he left my house and I looked at him and hugged him and I said, dude, the only people you can harm are those that try to harm your wife and kids. Promise me you will not do something like go to the capitol. He said he plans to take his family to his ranch for a few months if shit gets wild. 

We are so fucked. 

 

I have a friend like this, a guy I played sports with and did all the sporty esprit-de-corps things with.  So we've been tight, almost lifelong friends.  He's a self-described libertarian that has gone way down the conspiracy rabbit hole and is now basically working to try to bring about the downfall of the US.  His legitimate business failed and he is rebounding by starting a podcast and writing two books simultaneously "with the help of AI."  It's all aimed at promoting conspiracies and at least indirectly undermining confidence in our governmental institutions.  His social media used to be full of stuff about sports and his kids and real life.  Now it's just a stream of conspiracy nonsense that no one reacts to.  It's like he's posting in a vacuum.

Last time I saw him, I just hugged him and told him I loved him and said that if he ever wants to come back I'll help him.  He just blinked in surprise and said, "I love you, too man, but... what do you mean?  Come back from what?"

[bluto 4930]

https://apnews.com/article/georgia-elections-true-vote-ballot-stuffing-199113b47bc2df79c63fdf007cd23115

[Snake Diggity 4625]

24 minutes ago, Goredho said:

I have a friend like this, a guy I played sports with and did all the sporty esprit-de-corps things with.  So we've been tight, almost lifelong friends.  He's a self-described libertarian that has gone way down the conspiracy rabbit hole and is now basically working to try to bring about the downfall of the US.  His legitimate business failed and he is rebounding by starting a podcast and writing two books simultaneously "with the help of AI."  It's all aimed at promoting conspiracies and at least indirectly undermining confidence in our governmental institutions.  His social media used to be full of stuff about sports and his kids and real life.  Now it's just a stream of conspiracy nonsense that no one reacts to.  It's like he's posting in a vacuum.

Last time I saw him, I just hugged him and told him I loved him and said that if he ever wants to come back I'll help him.  He just blinked in surprise and said, "I love you, too man, but... what do you mean?  Come back from what?"

It is very depressing to see good people who you once admired start to believe stupid, crazy shit.  And there’s nothing you can do about it.  For anyone reading this who is just now encountering loved ones buying into MAGA/QAnon bullshit, LET THEM GO.  Write them off.  Only pain will come from trying to engage with them.  Sad but true.

[Js1 85353]

2 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

A good manservant would not let you leave the estate with an unkempt tie.

[Brisketexan 105152]

21 minutes ago, Snake Diggity said:

It is very depressing to see good people who you once admired start to believe stupid, crazy shit.  And there’s nothing you can do about it.  For anyone reading this who is just now encountering loved ones buying into MAGA/QAnon bullshit, LET THEM GO.  Write them off.  Only pain will come from trying to engage with them.  Sad but true.

This.

They're gone.  They are never coming back.

Move on, for your own good.

[Foosters 17858]

7 minutes ago, Js1 said:

not if you don't want to eat a big bowl of spiderwebs you wont

[Captainant 27679]

1 hour ago, Goredho said:

I have a friend like this, a guy I played sports with and did all the sporty esprit-de-corps things with.  So we've been tight, almost lifelong friends.  He's a self-described libertarian that has gone way down the conspiracy rabbit hole and is now basically working to try to bring about the downfall of the US.  His legitimate business failed and he is rebounding by starting a podcast and writing two books simultaneously "with the help of AI."  It's all aimed at promoting conspiracies and at least indirectly undermining confidence in our governmental institutions.  His social media used to be full of stuff about sports and his kids and real life.  Now it's just a stream of conspiracy nonsense that no one reacts to.  It's like he's posting in a vacuum.

Hows 8badmofo doing nowadays?

[troph 24810]

1 hour ago, Goredho said:

I have a friend like this, a guy I played sports with and did all the sporty esprit-de-corps things with.  So we've been tight, almost lifelong friends.  He's a self-described libertarian that has gone way down the conspiracy rabbit hole and is now basically working to try to bring about the downfall of the US.  His legitimate business failed and he is rebounding by starting a podcast and writing two books simultaneously "with the help of AI."  It's all aimed at promoting conspiracies and at least indirectly undermining confidence in our governmental institutions.  His social media used to be full of stuff about sports and his kids and real life.  Now it's just a stream of conspiracy nonsense that no one reacts to.  It's like he's posting in a vacuum.

Last time I saw him, I just hugged him and told him I loved him and said that if he ever wants to come back I'll help him.  He just blinked in surprise and said, "I love you, too man, but... what do you mean?  Come back from what?"

we just got into a text convo that ended like this basically. and I just put our texts on mute and his insta on mute. I can receive calls, text messages and DMs but if he abuses it, I'll end it.  It's so sad, I was so loving and he's so fucking mad at me right now. he's demanding I look at his crap and he won't look at mine and he just blasted Frontline as a media conspiracy against the truth.

Here's the thing, the shit they watch - like 2000 mules - and Frontline without a discriminating eye look similar. Introduction of the evidence usually with a person talking, show the evidence, explain what the evidence concludes with a person talking, period. Next chapter, introduction of the evidence, show the evidence, explain the evidence, period. Repeat until the story is told. But 2000 mules doesn't have evidence it has information that is explained to fit the narrative. The evidence is a woman at 1am dropping off 4 votes with a mask on. See, she's a mule, who votes at 1am? who wears a mask? who votes 4 times? What if she's a shift worker? What if she's taking her elderly mom and dad's vote and her husband's vote? what if she's got a mask because of COVID? none of that matters. geo fencing, people driving by voting drops 28 times and going to get out the vote non-profit shams!  They have like 3 videos of voter drop offs and claim thousands of mules. It's unreal what gets by these people.

Frontline on the other hand, a journalist introduces the evidence, the evidence is under oath witness testimony, then that witness explains in their own words on the show, then back to their under oath testimony, then a picture of trump from the national archives on the phone with people in the room from that conversation, then the indictment in words, then the commentator to draw the conclusion, period.  You know, real evidence.

You know what I'm going to do?

I'm going to double down on my kids. that's what i'm going to do.

 

Edited April 17 by troph

[troph 24810]

1 hour ago, bluto said:

https://apnews.com/article/georgia-elections-true-vote-ballot-stuffing-199113b47bc2df79c63fdf007cd23115

courts are corrupt.

[Willfully Horn 8017]

2 minutes ago, troph said:

You know what I'm going to do?

I'm going to double down on my kids. that's what i'm going to do.

 

Exactly. This is the point.

[troph 24810]

1 hour ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

Near to this is the economic situation we are in.  This has been my sense when we all repeat "they're voting against their interests!" It comes off as snobbish to me -- I know what you need and you couldn't possibly understand.  A lot these Trumptards are the losers of our society, so they vote for firebombing our society.  A chance that chaos ends up somehow benefitting is better than a status quo where they already know they will always lose, or so the mindset goes. 

 

This is a new.  We used to have substantial economic mobility (a.k.a. "The American Dream").  Not so much anymore.

You can't grind your way out of losing any more.  So why should we expect loyalty to the system?

 

https://www.irp.wisc.edu/wp/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Economic-Mobility-Memo-1-Definitions-and-Trends-April-2020.pdf

i think there are definitely headwinds right now for folks that make it harder, but I'm a fucking trans woman that does very well for myself and my family and I grind like a mother fucker. there are still numerous ways to make it. not as many, but numerous.

[bolverk 29683]

3 minutes ago, troph said:

we just got into a text convo that ended like this basically. and I just put our texts on mute and his insta on mute. I can receive calls, text messages and DMs but if he abuses it, I'll end it.  It's so sad, I was so loving and he's so fucking mad at me right now. he's demanding I look at his crap and he won't look at mine and he just blasted Frontline as a media conspiracy against the truth.

Here's the thing, the shit they watch - like 2000 mules - and Frontline without a discriminating eye look similar. Introduction of the evidence usually with a person talking, show the evidence, explain what the evidence concludes with a person talking, period. Next chapter, introduction of the evidence, show the evidence, explain the evidence, period. Repeat until the story is told. But 2000 mules doesn't have evidence it has information that is explained to fit the narrative. The evidence is a woman at 1am dropping off 4 votes with a mask on. See, she's a mule, who votes at 1am? who wears a mask? who votes 4 times? What if she's a shift worker? What if she's taking her elderly mom and dad's vote and her husband's vote? what if she's got a mask because of COVID? none of that matters. geo fencing, people driving by voting drops 28 times and going to get out the vote non-profit shams!  They have like 3 videos of voter drop offs and claim thousands of mules. It's unreal what gets by these people.

Frontline on the other hand, a journalist introduces the evidence, the evidence is under oath witness testimony, then that witness explains in their own words on the show, then back to their under oath testimony, then a picture of trump from the national archives on the phone with people in the room from that conversation, then the indictment in words, then the commentator to draw the conclusion, period.  You know, real evidence.

You know what I'm going to do?

I'm going to double down on my kids. that's what i'm going to do.

 

 

I'm really sorry. In early 2020, I lost one of my best friends over all this shit--we'd been friends since the 6th grade and even roommates in college. He basically has cut off communication with our core group of about a half-dozen friends because of his devotion to Trump. It's all just so fucking sad. 

[SydneyCarton 48108]

7 minutes ago, troph said:

we just got into a text convo that ended like this basically. and I just put our texts on mute and his insta on mute. I can receive calls, text messages and DMs but if he abuses it, I'll end it.  It's so sad, I was so loving and he's so fucking mad at me right now. he's demanding I look at his crap and he won't look at mine and he just blasted Frontline as a media conspiracy against the truth.

Here's the thing, the shit they watch - like 2000 mules - and Frontline without a discriminating eye look similar. Introduction of the evidence usually with a person talking, show the evidence, explain what the evidence concludes with a person talking, period. Next chapter, introduction of the evidence, show the evidence, explain the evidence, period. Repeat until the story is told. But 2000 mules doesn't have evidence it has information that is explained to fit the narrative. The evidence is a woman at 1am dropping off 4 votes with a mask on. See, she's a mule, who votes at 1am? who wears a mask? who votes 4 times? What if she's a shift worker? What if she's taking her elderly mom and dad's vote and her husband's vote? what if she's got a mask because of COVID? none of that matters. geo fencing, people driving by voting drops 28 times and going to get out the vote non-profit shams!

Frontline on the other hand, a journalist introduces the evidence, the evidence is under oath witness testimony, then that witness explains in their own words on the show, then back to their under oath testimony, then a picture of trump from the national archives on the phone with people in the room from that conversation, then the indictment in words, then the commentator to draw the conclusion, period.  You know, real evidence.

You know what I'm going to do?

I'm going to double down on my kids. that's what i'm going to do.

And this is why you just walk the fuck away. Because they're unwilling to consider anything that isn't already in their preferred worldview, and much like the Republican party, it is rules for thee and none for them. 

[Brisketexan 105152]

2 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

Exactly. This is the point.

Well, also....grind the idiots either into submission or at least into irrelevance.  Their thinking is a disease that literally threatens to bring down the Republic.  Push them aside.  Shove them back in their holes.  Take away all influence they have, on anything.  

[GenXer 2881]

5 minutes ago, troph said:

we just got into a text convo that ended like this basically. and I just put our texts on mute and his insta on mute. I can receive calls, text messages and DMs but if he abuses it, I'll end it.  It's so sad, I was so loving and he's so fucking mad at me right now. he's demanding I look at his crap and he won't look at mine and he just blasted Frontline as a media conspiracy against the truth.

Here's the thing, the shit they watch - like 2000 mules - and Frontline without a discriminating eye look similar. Introduction of the evidence usually with a person talking, show the evidence, explain what the evidence concludes with a person talking, period. Next chapter, introduction of the evidence, show the evidence, explain the evidence, period. Repeat until the story is told. But 2000 mules doesn't have evidence it has information that is explained to fit the narrative. The evidence is a woman at 1am dropping off 4 votes with a mask on. See, she's a mule, who votes at 1am? who wears a mask? who votes 4 times? What if she's a shift worker? What if she's taking her elderly mom and dad's vote and her husband's vote? what if she's got a mask because of COVID? none of that matters. geo fencing, people driving by voting drops 28 times and going to get out the vote non-profit shams!  They have like 3 videos of voter drop offs and claim thousands of mules. It's unreal what gets by these people.

Frontline on the other hand, a journalist introduces the evidence, the evidence is under oath witness testimony, then that witness explains in their own words on the show, then back to their under oath testimony, then a picture of trump from the national archives on the phone with people in the room from that conversation, then the indictment in words, then the commentator to draw the conclusion, period.  You know, real evidence.

You know what I'm going to do?

I'm going to double down on my kids. that's what i'm going to do.

 

It’s futile but tell him you’ll watch 2000 mules if he watches selections from the J6 hearings.

This one is testimony from the known RINO, deep state democrat, and trump appointed AG Bill Barr 

I generally steer the discussion to questions like:

Why would barr tell trump the election stolen stuff was bullshit?

I try to end the debate with humor by saying how the democrats really suck at stealing elections because they let the mitch and lindsay get re-elected.

 

 

 

[Red Five 40859]

13 minutes ago, troph said:

he's demanding I look at his crap and he won't look at mine and he just blasted Frontline as a media conspiracy against the truth.

(rambles on and on about a million different conspiracies without actually calling them conspiracies)

"Actually, check out these facts."

"Oh well that's a conspiracy." 

Conspiracies are truths and truths are conspiracies. Good times. 

[troph 24810]

1 minute ago, GenXer said:

It’s futile but tell him you’ll watch 2000 mules if he watches selections from the J6 hearings.

This one is testimony from the known RINO, deep state democrat, and trump appointed AG Bill Barr 

I generally steer the discussion to questions like:

Why would barr tell trump the election stolen stuff was bullshit?

I try to end the debate with humor by saying how the democrats really suck at stealing elections because they let the mitch and lindsay get re-elected.

 

 

 

the frontline documentary is essentially the story of the J6 hearings and the narrative of the indictment. He's already refused. see my post detail about the difference in evidentiary quality of 2000 mules and the Frontline doc.

 

he's gone. like in the walking dead, he's a zombie, there is no cure.

[troph 24810]

this was my fav -

him: got it, groomers aren't a big deal.

me before: for every one drag queen or trans person that has abused a child or attempted to groom a child there are thousands of family members, pastors, scout leaders and dare I say little league coaches that have done the same.

wait, fav was this -

him: oh, y'all are on the same team?

me before: no, trans people are our people.

him before that: you know the L's, G's and B's don't like the T's.

* you read that right, i'm not out to him.

another fav -

him: why would he want that? I didn't see that.

me before: did you know Ken Paxton asked TxDOT for the names of every person in texas that changed their gender on their DL in the last two years?

 

to be fair, he did later say, no one should get between a patient and their doctor - abortion and trans kids included.  he was adamant about that.

 

Edited April 17 by troph

[SydneyCarton 48108]

You're wasting your time.

[Blotto 23525]

4 hours ago, royiv said:

I’m so behind the trends. I have a tailor in my contacts and actually use her and on the rare occasion that I need to wear a tie I don’t wear it down to my scrotum.

All right, but you're gonna have a hard time finding two dudes to jack off  on the dance floor. 

[Brisketexan 105152]

2 minutes ago, Blotto said:

All right, but you're gonna have a hard time finding two dudes to jack off  on the dance floor. 

[Pato del Muerto 52507]

If you are an old that wears your pants such that your belt is just under your nips, where should the tie hang to?  Still the top of belt?

[Brisketexan 105152]

1 minute ago, Pato del Muerto said:

If you are an old that wears your pants such that your belt is just under your nips, where should the tie hang to?  Still the top of belt?

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11669]

28 minutes ago, troph said:

i think there are definitely headwinds right now for folks that make it harder, but I'm a fucking trans woman that does very well for myself and my family and I grind like a mother fucker. there are still numerous ways to make it. not as many, but numerous.

I'm talking nationwide trends, not anecdotal.

[RDCanecutter 26446]

12 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

Ultimately, every "libertarian" is a conservative who leans fascist.  It's the most confounding thing, but we see it here all the time.

We will need to see your permit to say that.

[royiv 9323]

20 minutes ago, troph said:

this was my fav -

him: got it, groomers aren't a big deal.

me before: for every one drag queen or trans person that has abused a child or attempted to groom a child there are thousands of family members, pastors, scout leaders and dare I say little league coaches that have done the same.

wait, fav was this -

him: oh, y'all are on the same team?

me before: no, trans people are our people.

him before that: you know the L's, G's and B's don't like the T's.

* you read that right, i'm not out to him

This is what is most infuriating to me in this situation. He sees you as a friend that is uber successful, has a great family, great career, happy marriage, etc. He then can’t make the connection that you’re essentially living the life that life that everyone in the world aspires to, but people such as yourself are under attack by one party to vilify a group of our community as groomers, molesters, etc., when clear data shows that just not to be the case.
 

People like him just read conspiracy shit while “doing their research” and take it as gospel while not making the connection that someone in their close circle is someone under attack. It’s so intellectually weak to not be able to make that connection and question the BS that they are consuming. 

[RDCanecutter 26446]

Let me know when 90% of Americans believe in conspiracies. Then I'll start speaking French, because it'll be like living in France.

[troph 24810]

19 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

You're wasting your time.

I'm not, we had a conversation that was not expected last night and the friendship ended over text this morning. I'm just sharing with y'all now.

walking dead, he's a zombie now, there is no cure. he's gone.

[troph 24810]

13 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

I'm talking nationwide trends, not anecdotal.

it's always been a fucking slog to make it. always.

[SydneyCarton 48108]

1 minute ago, troph said:

I'm not, we had a conversation that was not expected last night and the friendship ended over text this morning. I'm just sharing with y'all now.

walking dead, he's a zombie now, there is no cure. he's gone.

I'm sorry for your loss. 

[royiv 9323]

1 minute ago, troph said:

I'm not, we had a conversation that was not expected last night and the friendship ended over text this morning. I'm just sharing with y'all now.

walking dead, he's a zombie now, there is no cure. he's gone.

That sucks. I feel for you. Losing a close friendship is never easy, but sometimes there are reasons it’s untenable and this seems like one of those times.

[troph 24810]

stay vigilant with your family and kids and friends that are not lost. stay close to them. especially the little ones. there ARE social media channels out there trying to get young white males to dive head first into the Q world. it's quite dangerous.

[troph 24810]

3 minutes ago, royiv said:

That sucks. I feel for you. Losing a close friendship is never easy, but sometimes there are reasons it’s untenable and this seems like one of those times.

I know I'm carpet bombing this thread right now, but thanks. I'm going to grieve for a day or two but it's time to move on. I will find other straight guys that are cool as shit that like to do cool shit with a cool lesbian and aren't lost. at our age, life long friends are a misnomer. friends come and go now. that's just reality. I have 4-5 life long friends that have stuck with me and that's just it, and I'll protect those to the death, but this guy is a 7-8 year friend and he's gone.

Edited April 17 by troph

[royiv 9323]

Just now, troph said:

I know I'm carpet bombing this thread right now, but thanks. I'm going to grieve for a day or two but it's time to move on. I will find other straight guys that are cool as shit that like to do cool shit and aren't lost. at our age, life long friends are a misnomer. friends come and go now. that's just reality. I have 4-5 life long friends that have stuck with me and that's just it, and I'll protect those to the death, but this guy is a 7-8 year friend and he's gone.

No apology necessary for all the posts. I, for one, find it interesting and sad at the same time to see real life stories play out in realtime as a reminder that this shit is real and it’s dangerous. I hear you on life long friends. I have five friends (was 6, but we tragically lost one to suicide) that I will protect to the end and have known each other for 30+ years. Others come and go, but those relationships persevere.

[Sawbonz 27565]

11 hours ago, troph said:

The interesting difference - at least to me - is legal disenfranchisement of liberal burn it to the ground groups versus perceived disenfranchised white male burn It to the ground types - unless the corruption is so complete we have no hope.  It leads to false equivalency arguments - they are all corrupt.

But when I say Ken Paxton is demanding DL data on gender changes he’s unaware, when I explain one party wants me dead he disagrees with that party and is unfazed. They are all corrupt makes Trump’s brazen corruption and criminality garden variety because they all are.
 

hey I’m just asking questions. It’s like they go to school to have talking points. 
 

in the end politicians are complicated, all want power some wield it more elegantly others with brut force and blood thirst for more. I see a distinct difference but he does not so full circle if they are all the same give me the guy that screams the other side is corrupt the loudest. I guess.
 

If they are truly all corrupt, don’t you want the group that will get you the most of what you want or at least the least of what you don’t want?

 

Unless you are 100Maire or greater, are a religious loony, or want a child bride, there is no reason I can think of at this point to pick a republican over a democrat 

[Sawbonz 27565]

53 minutes ago, troph said:

I'm not, we had a conversation that was not expected last night and the friendship ended over text this morning. I'm just sharing with y'all now.

walking dead, he's a zombie now, there is no cure. he's gone.

Damn I didn’t read to the end. Sorry that really sucks. 

[TheStoicPaisano 9922]

5 hours ago, bolverk said:

 

Just to the belt buckle.

 

Also, since you watched that donkey show for your buddy, you should get him to watch the Frontline episode in kind.

Tie is sending some vibes…

 

[troph 24810]

7 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

If they are truly all corrupt, don’t you want the group that will get you the most of what you want or at least the least of what you don’t want?

 

Unless you are 100Maire or greater, are a religious loony, or want a child bride, there is no reason I can think of at this point to pick a republican over a democrat 

I mean you make a compelling point.

[ChiTownDoc 21154]

23 hours ago, Red Five said:

He also said a few months ago that FSU should have gotten into the playoffs instead of Texas. I really can’t stand him.

It’s really is odd how a large contingent of a UT board has trouble hating this fuckstick.  I wonder why?

[royiv 9323]

14 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

If they are truly all corrupt, don’t you want the group that will get you the most of what you want or at least the least of what you don’t want?

 

Unless you are 100Maire or greater, are a religious loony, or want a child bride, there is no reason I can think of at this point to pick a republican over a democrat 

Don’t forget hating immigrants and non-whites.

[Sawbonz 27565]

1 minute ago, royiv said:

Don’t forget hating immigrants and non-whites.

Most of them these days fall under the religious loony umbrella but yes excellent point 

[royiv 9323]

6 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Most of them these days fall under the religious loony umbrella but yes excellent point 

I thought the same thing, but it galls me to no end how un-Christian mainstream Christianity has become.

[bolverk 29683]

19 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

If they are truly all corrupt, don’t you want the group that will get you the most of what you want or at least the least of what you don’t want?

 

Unless you are 100Maire or greater, are a religious loony, or want a child bride, there is no reason I can think of at this point to pick a republican over a democrat 

I dunno. You left out racists, xenophobes, misogynists, and homo(trans)phobes, of which one could be any without also being rich, a religious zealot, or a pedophile. Poke around the Lulz or football board, and I'd bet you could find lots of examples within minutes from our secular Surly crowd in the Lol pic thread alone.

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2 minutes ago, bolverk said:

I dunno. You left out racists, xenophobes, misogynists, and homo(trans)phobes, of which one could be any without also being rich, a religious zealot, or a pedophile. Poke around the Lulz or football board, and I'd bet you could find lots of examples within minutes from our secular Surly crowd in the Lol pic thread alone.

Oh I’m sure you can go on and on. I stand by my post. You can capture 90+ % with my 3. Most of those “secular” posters are closet fundies

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This guy is the quintessential Trumper to me and he's not really in your categories.

 

I'd describe him as something like 3rd quintile earner, sports fan, still nurses wounds from high school, living in a locale 10,000-100,000 people, furthest he's been from his house involved the words 'all inclusive'.

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2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

You could have just posted Rudy.  More germane to the thread.  

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2 hours ago, RDCanecutter said:

Let me know when 90% of Americans believe in conspiracies. Then I'll start speaking French, because it'll be like living in France.

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8 hours ago, Foosters said:

not if you don't want to eat a big bowl of spiderwebs you wont

Or get sand rubbed in your eyes.

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I don't know if they grade it...but coarse.