The GQP: Trumpist Death Cult

[Red Five 40123]

Trump calls J6 a "day of love"
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-january-6-univision-town-hall/

Trump went on to say some of his supporters "went down to the Capitol, I said peacefully and patriotically. Nothing done wrong, at all, nothing done wrong. And action was taken, strong action. Ashli Babbitt was killed, nobody was killed.
"There were no guns down there, we didn't have guns," Trump continued. "The others had guns, but we didn't have guns. And when I say we, these are people that walked down. This was a tiny percentage of the overall, which nobody sees and nobody shows. But that was a day of love from the standpoint of the millions, it's like hundreds of thousands, it could have been the largest group I've ever spoken before. They asked me to speak, I went, and I spoke. And I used the term peacefully and patriotically."

 

“They asked me to speak”

Obviously the entire thing is littered with amazing lies, but…. You fucking brought them to DC Dotard. They were there for your speech because you summoned an army of dumbshit Dotardarians.

[Longhornfan1024 1707]

23 minutes ago, Red Five said:

 

“They asked me to speak”

Obviously the entire thing is littered with amazing lies, but…. You fucking brought them to DC Dotard. They were there for your speech because you summoned an army of dumbshit Dotardarians.

He's trying to work in the talking points his lawyers gave him so that he doesn't go to jail, but his brain is mush so it comes out as incomprehensible gibberish.

[horngrad03 1101]

On 10/16/2024 at 2:13 PM, safe sex said:

(To be clear, non-exploitative trans porn owns and y'all should all give it a shot [statistically a lot of you have, and good for you, but own it])

 

[atomheartbevo 88753]

On 10/16/2024 at 2:13 PM, safe sex said:

To be clear, non-exploitative trans porn owns and y'all should all give it a shot [statistically a lot of you have, and good for you, but own it])

[Red Five 40123]

I’m intrigued. I think I finished the rest of the porn on the internet already.

[Brisketexan 103184]

5 minutes ago, Red Five said:

I’m intrigued. I think I finished the rest of the porn on the internet already.

Goddamn, this was a perfect reply.

[Mittens 7934]

On 10/16/2024 at 3:48 PM, Pancho said:

I don’t know that she’s maga/GQP

If you're wearing a Trump t-shirt, you're MAGA.

[Pancho 41871]

 

[SydneyCarton 47107]

Just now, Pancho said:

 

1) I love how the assaulting is women are lying to start. Who wants MeToo to end, exactly?

2) public executions. Doesn’t sound like fundamentalist Muslim counties at all. 

[DigglerontheHoof 20456]

10 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

I say we find "pastors" that advocate violence against women, drag them from their pulpits, and beat them half to death. 

[Brisketexan 103184]

1 hour ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

I say we find "pastors" that advocate violence against women, drag them from their pulpits, and beat them half to death. 

Half?  Quitter.

[DigglerontheHoof 20456]

20 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Half?  Quitter.

[Keef 717]

2 hours ago, Pancho said:

 

I googled this moron and found this gem on his website (copied verbatim):

Do you think all Christians living in blue states like California are stupid?

No. I believe Christian parents, particularly fathers, who are failing in their duties to protect and provide for their children, and could remedy this problem by relocating but deliberately choose not to, are being foolish. The Apostle Paul calls these men apostates who are “worse than an unbeliever.” In the spirit of charity, I opted to merely call these men “stupid.”

[aggie08 20217]

But pastors diddling kids? We'll just reassign those, and reinforce to the kids that telling their parents is a sin.

[wildcat09 28392]

17 hours ago, Red Five said:

I’m intrigued. I think I finished the rest of the porn on the internet already.

NowThis?

[wildcat09 28392]

2 hours ago, Pancho said:

 

This would just be an open license for men to murder their girlfriends/wives.

This guy doesn't deserve to live. 

[WhatTheBuck 28574]

2 hours ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

I say we find "pastors" that advocate violence against women, drag them from their pulpits, and beat them half to death. 

Quitter. 

[tx 3 putt 74778]

 

[SydneyCarton 47107]

3 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

It's amazing how this fucking idiot will stumble on some talking point, probably gets told that's bad, but then he'll just run with it on every outlet for a fucking week. 

[Red Five 40123]

4 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

It's amazing how this fucking idiot will stumble on some talking point, probably gets told that's bad, but then he'll just run with it on every outlet for a fucking week. 

I think there's a big part of him that he is probably unaware of, that really doesn't want to be President again. Afraid of getting shot, not wanting to do the job, whatever. His behavior for months has been that of someone who doesn't want to win this race.

[Willfully Horn 7820]

Nvm

Edited October 18 by Willfully Horn

[SydneyCarton 47107]

1 minute ago, Red Five said:

I think there's a big part of him that he is probably unaware of, that really doesn't want to be President again. Afraid of getting shot, not wanting to do the job, whatever. His behavior for months has been that of someone who doesn't want to win this race.

I understand this assessment, but I don't think that's the case. He's a narcissit, his ego is incalculable, he knows he's going to prison if he loses, etc etc. I think his cognitive decline, coupled with the narcissism makes him think that he will absolutely win, regardless of his effort. And he's too stupid and bought into his entire life of lies to the point he believes his own bullshit. 

[SydneyCarton 47107]

2 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

I’m the father of two young women, and I take issue with your characterization. Perhaps, because of the privilege my family enjoys. Should either of our girls need health care not permitted in this state, the fact of which both galls and motivates me to seek a change in Texas’ leadership, we have the means to seek that care where it is provided.

I will not be forced out of this land, because it is a part of my soul. My oldest chose to continue her post grad education in Texas. Our youngest is a sophomore at UT, and is a third generation legacy student.  Call either of my children stupid, and I will kick you squarely in your exposed ass.

I think you misunderstood that post. He was quoting that idiot pastor, who was saying people should move out of California and into red states. 

[Born to Run 6200]

3 hours ago, Pancho said:

 

Uh "tho shall not kill is a pretty clear commandment."

"Christian Nationalist" means revert to total white mail hegemony- no basis in faith.

 

[Pato del Muerto 51917]

12 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

Should either of our girls need health care not permitted in this state, the fact of which both galls and motivates me to seek a change in Texas’ leadership, we have the means to seek that care where it is provided.

That’s a bit of a dangerous game as the Texas lawmakers look to make it illegal to seek medical care elsewhere and do intend to enforce it where they can. 

Edited October 18 by Pato del Muerto

[Willfully Horn 7820]

3 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I think you misunderstood that post. He was quoting that idiot pastor, who was saying people should move out of California and into red states. 

I did misunderstand. And, when I realized that, I deleted my post.

[jimmyjazz 45063]

"Pro life".

[mooseoutfront 3617]

On 10/16/2024 at 11:13 AM, safe sex said:

"I think a lot of trans women are turned on at the thought of themselves being women. Guess what? It doesn’t magically make them women," Seiter said.

This is a man who watches a lot of trans porn 

(To be clear, non-exploitative trans porn owns and y'all should all give it a shot [statistically a lot of you have, and good for you, but own it])

 

Honest question...What is non-exploitative porn, trans or otherwise? 

[C-Man 26542]

34 minutes ago, Red Five said:

I think there's a big part of him that he is probably unaware of, that really doesn't want to be President again. Afraid of getting shot, not wanting to do the job, whatever. His behavior for months has been that of someone who doesn't want to win this race.

 

31 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I understand this assessment, but I don't think that's the case. He's a narcissit, his ego is incalculable, he knows he's going to prison if he loses, etc etc. I think his cognitive decline, coupled with the narcissism makes him think that he will absolutely win, regardless of his effort. And he's too stupid and bought into his entire life of lies to the point he believes his own bullshit. 

As Sydney points out, he doesn't want to go to prison. If Kamala beats him, I expect the moment he finally gives up his stupid-ass loser legal challenges and the next insurrection is put down he will immediately announce his candidacy for the 2028 election. He will have zero chance of winning the election or nomination -- hell, he could die before then -- but he'll be able to continue to grift his moron followers and claim that all prosecutions are political witch hunts, etc. And perhaps a friendly judge/SCOTUS situation allows him to wriggle off the line finally.

God help us if he wins, he'll do even less governing than he did the last time. The problem is all the shit ghouls like Steven Miller and the rest will do with a rubber stamp from Trump.

[Thatguy 8138]

17 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

That’s a bit of a dangerous game as the Texas lawmakers look to make it illegal to seek medical care elsewhere and do intend to enforce it where they can. 

Yep. My kid heads off to college soon and we are out of here. We aren't getting caught here for the handmaids tales. More Trumpy people are moving here in droves. They can have this motherfucker. I don't know how it is where you are but people are even pushing their kids to go to conservative colleges where I am.

[Thatguy 8138]

On 10/16/2024 at 2:13 PM, safe sex said:

"I think a lot of trans women are turned on at the thought of themselves being women. Guess what? It doesn’t magically make them women," Seiter said.

This is a man who watches a lot of trans porn 

(To be clear, non-exploitative trans porn owns and y'all should all give it a shot [statistically a lot of you have, and good for you, but own it])

 

This comment is meant to explain crossdressing not trans people. Common misconception.

Edited October 18 by Thatguy

[SydneyCarton 47107]

27 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Yep. My kid heads off to college soon and we are out of here. We aren't getting caught here for the handmaids tales. More Trumpy people are moving here in droves. They can have this motherfucker. I don't know how it is where you are but people are even pushing their kids to go to conservative colleges where I am.

This is where I am, unfortunately I have at least another 12 years here, since the kiddo is in 1st grade and our school situation is pretty great. But it makes me nervous as fucking fuck. 

[TwiceHorn 30734]

1 hour ago, SydneyCarton said:

I understand this assessment, but I don't think that's the case. He's a narcissit, his ego is incalculable, he knows he's going to prison if he loses, etc etc. I think his cognitive decline, coupled with the narcissism makes him think that he will absolutely win, regardless of his effort. And he's too stupid and bought into his entire life of lies to the point he believes his own bullshit. 

None of that is really inconsistent with not wanting to be President.  He wants to win the election/popularity contest, he wants to terminate his criminal prosecutions, he wants the power to exact revenge on his critics and detractors.  I don' t think he really wants the day to day grind of the presidency.

[Brisketexan 103184]

56 minutes ago, mooseoutfront said:

Honest question...What is non-exploitative porn, trans or otherwise? 

As I understand it, it's where the lady also pays the pizza delivery guy after they bang, so he doesn't end up back at the shop short cash, putting his job at risk.

[safe sex 11545]

1 hour ago, Thatguy said:

This comment is meant to explain crossdressing not trans people. Common misconception.

Crossdressing is not an inherently erotic activity. There are plenty of men who just enjoy wearing women's clothing, because it's a lot more fucking fun than the shit y'all wear

[mooseoutfront 3617]

31 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

As I understand it, it's where the lady also pays the pizza delivery guy after they bang, so he doesn't end up back at the shop short cash, putting his job at risk.

Thanks for the tip.  I was wondering if I needed to look for a sticker or something like they put on free trade, organic, gluten free foods before I whip it out and start to wank.

[High Plains Drifter 10916]

1 minute ago, mooseoutfront said:

Thanks for the tip. 

 

[Dnaguy 11542]

40 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

As I understand it, it's where the lady also pays the pizza delivery guy after they bang, so he doesn't end up back at the shop short cash, putting his job at risk.

Yeah, they make sure to sign the work order as well.

[MissingInAction 24269]

Heels make my ass POP!

[Pato del Muerto 51917]

17 minutes ago, safe sex said:

Crossdressing is not an inherently erotic activity. There are plenty of men who just enjoy wearing women's clothing, because it's a lot more fucking fun than the shit y'all wear

[Thatguy 8138]

26 minutes ago, safe sex said:

Crossdressing is not an inherently erotic activity. There are plenty of men who just enjoy wearing women's clothing, because it's a lot more fucking fun than the shit y'all wear

Not inherently no. However, getting turned on by dressing up is crossdressing territory, not to be confused with trans which has nothing to do with that. Many people out there think trans folks are only doing what they do to satisfy some sexual desire. I like to make the distinction because it's a pretty widespread false opinion.

Also y'all? Have I mistaken you for a dude this whole time?

Edited October 18 by Thatguy

[ultimaton 2926]

7 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Not inherently no. However, getting turned on by dressing up is crossdressing territory, not to be confused with trans which has nothing to do with that. Many people out there think trans folks are only doing what they do to satisfy some sexual desire. I like to make the distinction because it's a pretty widespread false opinion.

Also y'all? Have I mistaken you for a dude this whole time?

[safe sex 11545]

You must have missed every post where I refer to myself as a dyke. Women's fashion is inherently much more varied and interesting (and thus, imo, fun) than men's fashion, which is what y'all (the male majority of Surly) wear.

Edited October 18 by safe sex

[Thatguy 8138]

Just now, safe sex said:

You must have missed every post where I refer to myself as a dyke. Women's fashion is inherently much more fun than men's fashion, which is what y'all (the male majority of Surly) wear.

Most def did miss that. I can't argue against women's fashion being better than men's as I have appreciated it for decades now.

[safe sex 11545]

2 hours ago, mooseoutfront said:

Honest question...What is non-exploitative porn, trans or otherwise? 

Porn that doesn't...exploit the performers? Porn that doesn't pressure women into doing things that they wouldn't otherwise want to do sexually (being forced to deepthroat until vomiting, getting slapped around while being called a bitch or whore, multiple penetrations of the same orifice at the same time, etc. etc. etc.). Even if the porn is vanilla, the contracts, conditions, schedule, etc., can be exploitative. Modern pornography is so much more violent and fetishistic than it was when most of Surly was coming of age. Non-exploitative porn usually means that a woman is directing or producing it, and very often the performers are intimately involved in the production as well (and not just by performing, obv). It usually means there is more affirmation-centered dirty talk than degradation-centered dirty talk (definitely no use of slurs in the case of trans porn). It's usually more vanilla than kinky, but there are plenty of ways for kink to produced without exploiting the performers. It really isn't hard, but most straight men involved in producing porn (and seemingly the majority of those who consume porn) don't seem to care whether or not their porn is exploiting the performers, as long as they can bust their nut and/or make money.

Everyone should critically think about the porn they consume.

 

Edited October 18 by safe sex
grammar

[Pato del Muerto 51917]

8 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Most def did miss that. I can't argue against women's fashion being better than men's as I have appreciated it for decades now.

Well she’s 6’ tall and likes to eat pussy so we do have some commonalities. What we have in common is greater than what divides us. 

[TwiceHorn 30734]

10 minutes ago, safe sex said:

Porn that doesn't...exploit the performers? Porn that doesn't pressure women into doing things that they wouldn't otherwise want to do sexually (being forced to deepthroat until vomiting, getting slapped around while being called a bitch or whore, multiple penetrations of the same orifice at the same time, etc. etc. etc.). Even if the porn is vanilla, the contracts, conditions, schedule, etc., can be exploitative. Modern pornography is so much more violent and fetishistic than it was when most of Surly was coming of age. Non-exploitative porn usually means that a women is directing or producing it, and very often the performers are intimately involved in the production as well (and not just by performing, obv). It usually means there is more affirmation-centered dirty talk than degradation-centered dirty talk (definitely no use of slurs in the case of trans porn). It's usually more vanilla than kinky, but there are plenty of ways for kink to produced without exploiting the performers. It really isn't hard, but most straight men involved in producing porn (and seemingly the majority of those of consume porn) don't seem to care whether or not their porn is exploiting the performers, as long as they can bust their nut.

Everyone should critically think about the porn they consume.

 

I get what you're saying, but there's an argument that anyone who gets paid to make porn is being exploited; that it is inherently exploitative.

[safe sex 11545]

Capitalism is inherently exploitative.

Sex work is work.

[Thatguy 8138]

22 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

I get what you're saying, but there's an argument that anyone who gets paid to make porn is being exploited; that it is inherently exploitative.

It's pretty exploitative. Have a conversation with an actual porn star for a bit. Eye opening! When you hear how they started vs how they ended up. Same with modeling.

[Biff Tannen 44926]

3 hours ago, mooseoutfront said:

Honest question...What is non-exploitative porn, trans or otherwise? 

Asks man trapped in the depths of Alaskan winter for months out of the year.