The GQP: Trumpist Death Cult

[bolverk 29656]

 

[Sbbruin 21829]

2 hours ago, MissingInAction said:

The sisters in prison are going to really really enjoy him.

The braces might keep a thousand dicks out of his mouth but his ass not safe. 

[Dnaguy 11920]

 

[BevoAbyss 2058]

That Dog Comic video is just one of millions of examples of our public education and news media systems -- however flawed -- being utterly overwhelmed by the mass idiocy produced by decades of TV, social media, creationism, Hollywood sci-fi ... and virtually no real science or astronomy. 

Just had lunch today with 35 y/o female long-time friend (no pics) with college degree from solid university (yet only had to take one science class)  ... successful art/design consulting business ... dang good looking ... and hates Trump.

Yet, she now believes her crazy old uncle in New Mexico who supposedly "worked at Los Alamos" ... who produces videos that claim that ETs have sent "biological drones" to Earth and some crashed at Roswell and elsewhere. These drones are now arriving in "Reptilian forms." She's also wondering if the moon is a giant surveillance satellite operated by advanced ETs. 

I'm not joking!!!  

i'm a life-long single never married dude. Thus, I traffic in crowds that often have lots of singles (artsy-fartsy art, design, fashionista world). I have heard the craziest crap, and much of it from liberal chicks and dudes... most of whom I presume vote D... but can't be certain.

Let me tell ya... It's nuts galore out here. 

Edited October 30 by BevoAbyss

[BamaATL 16593]

1 minute ago, BevoAbyss said:

That Dog Comic video is just one of millions of examples of our public education and news media systems -- however flawed -- being utterly overwhelmed by the mass idiocy produced by decades of TV, social media, creationism, Hollywood sci-fi ... and virtually no real science or astronomy. 

Just had lunch today with 35 y/o female long-time friend (no pics) with college degree from solid university (yet only had to take one science class)  ... successful consulting business ... dang good looking ... and hates Trump.

Yet, she now believes her crazy old uncle in New Mexico who supposedly "worked at Los Alamos" ... who produces videos that claim that ETs have sent "biological drones" to Earth and some crashed at Roswell and elsewhere. These drones are now arriving in "Reptilian forms." She's also wondering if the moon is a giant surveillance satellite operated by advanced ETs. 

I'm not joking!!!  

i'm a life-long single never married dude. Thus, I traffic in crowds that often have lots of singles (artsy-fartsy art, design, fashionista world). I have heard the craziest crap, and much of it from liberal chicks and dudes... most of whom I presume vote D... but can't be certain.

Let me tell ya... It's nuts galore out here. 

[DigglerontheHoof 21183]

1 hour ago, bolverk said:

 

 

"This is nothing like a nazi rally, they were in shape."

"Seriously, when I look at you, makes me think groceries aren't expensive enough".  

[Dnaguy 11920]

7 minutes ago, BevoAbyss said:

That Dog Comic video is just one of millions of examples of our public education and news media systems -- however flawed -- being utterly overwhelmed by the mass idiocy produced by decades of TV, social media, creationism, Hollywood sci-fi ... and virtually no real science or astronomy. 

Just had lunch today with 35 y/o female long-time friend (no pics) with college degree from solid university (yet only had to take one science class)  ... successful art/design consulting business ... dang good looking ... and hates Trump.

Yet, she now believes her crazy old uncle in New Mexico who supposedly "worked at Los Alamos" ... who produces videos that claim that ETs have sent "biological drones" to Earth and some crashed at Roswell and elsewhere. These drones are now arriving in "Reptilian forms." She's also wondering if the moon is a giant surveillance satellite operated by advanced ETs. 

I'm not joking!!!  

i'm a life-long single never married dude. Thus, I traffic in crowds that often have lots of singles (artsy-fartsy art, design, fashionista world). I have heard the craziest crap, and much of it from liberal chicks and dudes... most of whom I presume vote D... but can't be certain.

Let me tell ya... It's nuts galore out here. 

My wife runs a company, has two bachelors degrees in Business (finance and business management) from A&M.

She consumes 15-20 supplements every day and just put a ‘grounded’ mattress pad on our bed to help us sleep better.

Critical thinking is not rewarded in our economy or system of government.

 
$ and power is gained by ignoring the rules and creating your own.

You nerds get left holding your dicks when you talk about ‘rule of law’ or ‘safety’ or ‘based in fact’.

[Pescado_Rojo 19416]

6 minutes ago, Dnaguy said:

My wife runs a company, has two bachelors degrees in Business (finance and business management) from A&M.

She consumes 15-20 supplements every day and just put a ‘grounded’ mattress pad on our bed to help us sleep better.

Critical thinking is not rewarded in our economy or system of government.

 
$ and power is gained by ignoring the rules and creating your own.

You nerds get left holding your dicks when you talk about ‘rule of law’ or ‘safety’ or ‘based in fact’.

She must be incredible in bed to put up with that shit

[Dnaguy 11920]

1 minute ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

She must be incredible in bed to put up with that shit

Texas is a community property state.

[jw4381 3070]

7 hours ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

I don't normally carry, although I do own a few guns. If I were carrying and some guy walks up to me or mine waving a machete, that dude would be deader than Elvis. 

 

Uhhhh

 

username 

[Pato del Muerto 52486]

1 hour ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

She must be incredible in bed to put up with that shit

And she votes how he tells her to

[BrickHorn 18216]

2 hours ago, Dnaguy said:

She consumes 15-20 supplements every day and just put a ‘grounded’ mattress pad on our bed to help us sleep better.

[troph 24781]

Does 10-15 supplements keep you under the threshold for looney? Asking for uh… 

[TheStoicPaisano 9922]

If the # would be allowed at the self-checkout lane, it is kosher IMO.

[Pancho 44712]

 

[Biff Tannen 45665]

5 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Bingo.  

For years, when I went over to a friend's house, as soon as I walked in the front door I would automatically look for a fish bowl to put my car keys in.

[Biff Tannen 45665]

4 hours ago, BevoAbyss said:

Just had lunch today with 35 y/o female long-time friend (no pics) with college degree from solid university (yet only had to take one science class)  ... successful art/design consulting business ... dang good looking ... and hates Trump.

Yet, she now believes her crazy old uncle in New Mexico who supposedly "worked at Los Alamos" ... who produces videos that claim that ETs have sent "biological drones" to Earth and some crashed at Roswell and elsewhere. These drones are now arriving in "Reptilian forms." She's also wondering if the moon is a giant surveillance satellite operated by advanced ETs. 

There is nothing in her beliefs that I can see that hurts other people.  She may be insane, but I am perfectly fine with that, as it doesn't affect me in the slightest that she believes in "Reptilian forms", as far as I can tell.  That's a MASSIVE difference between her and the magats.  What they believe in actually hurts other people.  That's pretty much what I give a shit about in our entire existence.  Believe what you want, but the SECOND it starts hurting people, fuck right off and stop.  This isn't hard.

[atomheartbevo 89629]

5 hours ago, BevoAbyss said:

That Dog Comic video is just one of millions of examples of our public education and news media systems -- however flawed -- being utterly overwhelmed by the mass idiocy produced by decades of TV, social media, creationism, Hollywood sci-fi ... and virtually no real science or astronomy. 

Just had lunch today with 35 y/o female long-time friend (no pics) with college degree from solid university (yet only had to take one science class)  ... successful art/design consulting business ... dang good looking ... and hates Trump.

Yet, she now believes her crazy old uncle in New Mexico who supposedly "worked at Los Alamos" ... who produces videos that claim that ETs have sent "biological drones" to Earth and some crashed at Roswell and elsewhere. These drones are now arriving in "Reptilian forms." She's also wondering if the moon is a giant surveillance satellite operated by advanced ETs. 

I'm not joking!!!  

i'm a life-long single never married dude. Thus, I traffic in crowds that often have lots of singles (artsy-fartsy art, design, fashionista world). I have heard the craziest crap, and much of it from liberal chicks and dudes... most of whom I presume vote D... but can't be certain.

Let me tell ya... It's nuts galore out here. 

[tx 3 putt 76873]

American Taliban taking notes ….

 

[WhatTheBuck 28775]

15 hours ago, Born to Run said:

Probably a topic for another thread, but what is making young white males embrace Maga and racism??

Some of my kids friends are racist little shits.

Asked and answered. 

[Pancho 44712]

 

[Brisketexan 105077]

15 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

I sweatergawd, going MAGA makes you instantly lose 50% of your IQ points.  She if absolutely fucking batshit loony.

[BrickHorn 18216]

24 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

Has she tried unplugging and rebooting her brain?

[Hank Kingsley 20906]

12 hours ago, Pancho said:

 

Goddamn I hate these accounts sometimes. 

Biden made it very clear he didn't want Trump supporters to think he was calling them garbage, but all these Dem dipshits willingly attribute it to him anyways because they know it revs up their engagement. 

 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33867]

1 hour ago, Pancho said:

 

[Sawbonz 27542]

1 hour ago, Pancho said:

 

No it didn’t 

[C-Man 27194]

Churches hosting Turning Point get-out-the-vote events likely violate tax law, experts say

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/turning-point-action-church-voting-pro-trump-tax-law-rcna178053

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A right-wing activist group’s reliance on evangelical churches for Republican get-out-the-vote efforts could land the congregations in hot water with the IRS, legal experts say.

Turning Point Action, founded by conservative provocateur Charlie Kirk, has held GOP vote-chasing events with at least 22 churches in six swing states since March, according to research conducted by the progressive watchdog group Documented and verified by NBC News. It is part of Turning Point’s push to contact people likely to support former President Donald Trump to encourage them to vote.

“What they’re doing almost definitely violates the Johnson Amendment,” said Sam Brunson, a law professor at Loyola University in Chicago, referring to the 1954 law that bars churches and other nonprofit groups from directly supporting political candidates.

Former President Donald Trump at a Turning Point Action rally in Las Vegas on Oct. 24.Patrick T. Fallon / AFP - Getty Images

There’s a long history of churches — including progressive and historically Black congregations — getting involved in elections, by registering voters, canvassing neighborhoods and providing transportation to polling sites. Those efforts are legal as long as they don’t explicitly target or exclude voters based on party affiliation. Many churches cross the line every year, by either hosting candidates or making endorsements from the pulpit, while rarely drawing sanctions from the IRS.

But what Turning Point is doing — relying on congregations to do explicitly partisan campaign work — “is at a different level than anything I’ve seen before,” said Philip Hackney, a University of Pittsburgh law professor and former IRS official. He and four other nonpartisan legal experts told NBC News that such activities could jeopardize the churches’ tax-exempt status.

Hackney noted Turning Point’s close association with Trump and the Republican National Committee. In a novel strategy made possible by new leniencies in campaign finance rules allowing campaigns to coordinate with super PACs and other groups, the Trump campaign has largely delegated voter-turnout efforts. Turning Point Action is one of several outside groups that have taken over the work of canvassing on behalf of Republicans.

“The Republican Party, in effect,” Hackney said, “is explicitly using churches through this system in order to get out the vote.”

Turning Point Action didn’t respond to messages requesting comment. A Trump campaign official told NBC News it doesn’t control Turning Point or its voter outreach efforts and declined to comment further. An IRS spokesperson said the agency couldn’t comment on specific organizations and referred a reporter to federal guidance that makes it clear churches can’t engage in partisan political activity.

Turning Point’s work with churches has been openly partisan, said Corinne Wolyniec, a researcher for Documented, a nonprofit group that investigates the influence of corporations and wealthy donors in government and politics. She found that the conservative activist group has mobilized evangelical congregations in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina and Wisconsin. At those gatherings — what Turning Point calls Super Chase events — Turning Point representatives train church members to use the group’s ballot-chasing app, which relies on voting history data to guide volunteers to call or knock on the doors of likely Republicans while avoiding anyone from the “wrong party” — meaning Democrats.

Turning Point staffers have at times advised pastors that that sort of partisan activism poses no legal risk, according to publicly available videos posted by the group. But some legal experts say otherwise.

“They can’t favor a particular candidate or, by implication, a group of candidates, like Republicans versus Democrats,” said Lloyd Mayer, a professor at Notre Dame Law School. “This effort is obviously favoring getting out voters who will favor the Republican candidates.”

An October post on X from Turning Point Action field representative Alyssa Goncales after leading a Super Chase event at Living Waters Bible Church in San Tan Valley, Arizona.

Johnny Buckles, a professor at the University of Houston Law Center, agreed that the churches working with Turning Point are most likely violating tax law as interpreted by the IRS — though he sees the Johnson Amendment itself as a violation of free speech rights under the First Amendment. 

“Even though I’m a critic of an absolute prohibition” on church political activity, Buckles said, “what you are describing to me is problematic under the statute as a potential violation.”

Documented reviewed dozens of social media posts, event pages and online videos to build its list of swing-state churches that hosted Super Chase events. Some churches and pastors promoted Turning Point events during worship services and in social media posts, NBC News found.

On a recent Sunday, a church member at Crossing Community Church in Genesee Depot, Wisconsin, invited congregants to stick around after the service to get training from a Turning Point Action representative before they went out in the community to encourage Christians to vote.

At Freedom House Church in Charlotte, North Carolina, a flashy announcement video played during a recent worship service, alerting members that “we are just a short time away from the most pivotal election of our lifetime,” then inviting them to participate in a Turning Point Super Chase event after the service.

“In 2020, 1.3 million Christians did not vote in North Carolina alone,” the narrator intoned. “It’s time to change that.”

NBC News contacted officials at each of the nearly two dozen churches that have hosted Turning Point events, but only two responded. 

Greater Augusta Apostolic Church in Columbia County, Georgia, which hosted a Turning Point Super Chase event in August, denied any direct affiliation with Turning Point in a statement and said it welcomes “people of all faiths, political backgrounds, etc (with no exclusions).”

David Rose, the pastor of Restoration Hope Church in Lake Havasu City, Arizona, acknowledged in an email that Turning Point held a Super Chase event at his church in August, but he said it was “not an event hosted by our church nor was it a church related event.”

“It is common for churches to allow other organizations to use their facilities outside of church related events,” said Rose, who personally promoted the Turning Point event on social media and posed for a photo in the sanctuary alongside volunteers holding signs that read “Commie Kamala” and “Make America Great Again.”

Even if the event wasn’t formally endorsed by the church, allowing Turning Point to use its facilities — along with the pastor’s participation — most likely violated tax law, experts said. Rose didn’t respond to follow-up questions about whether his church required Turning Point to lease space for the event.

Both presidential campaigns have sought to court Christian voters. Vice President Kamala Harris appeared at a Philadelphia church on Sunday, warning its Black congregation that America would become a “country of chaos, fear and hate” if she loses. Trump, meanwhile, has sought to maintain favor among conservative evangelical pastors who openly support him from the pulpit. (One of Trump’s long-standing promises to evangelicals: repealing the Johnson Amendment, which is named for then-Sen. Lyndon B. Johnson, who introduced the measure in Congress.)

Training churches to serve as unofficial Trump campaign surrogates fits into a broader campaign by Turning Point to mobilize evangelicals. Kirk has called on Christians to view conservative political activism as central to Jesus’ calling for their lives while promoting Trump as God’s favored candidate.

Discussing plans to build “the largest ballot-chasing army in the history of Republican GOP politics” at a California megachurch in March, Kirk called on pastors to rally their congregations to the cause.

“You cannot, in my personal opinion,” Kirk said, “be a true born-again Christian and vote Democrat in 2024.”

In the months that followed, churches across the country answered the call.

At Super Chase events, Turning Point trains volunteers to use its cellphone app, which provides users with addresses and names of residents who are likely to support Trump. Users can also upload their contacts to see which of their friends or associates are likely to be Republicans, or they can call or text randomly assigned numbers in swing states. The goal is to drive turnout among “low-propensity voters” — those who Turning Point believes support Trump but haven’t voted consistently in the past.

Turning Point representatives have at times downplayed the tax risks when they recruit churches and pastors to do such work. When a person attending a June Turning Point conference asked whether it was a good idea to run get-out-the-vote programs through churches, Brett Galaszewski, a Turning Point field director, said that’s exactly what pastors should be doing.

“I think we’re long past the point where church and politics are separate,” he said. “We have a country to save.”

At another session, Turning Point representative Schayden Gorai said there was no risk to running partisan political operations through churches.

“There’s never been an instance in history where a church has lost their 501(c)(3), their tax-exemption status, for getting political,” Gorai said. “And so we want to make sure that our churches understand that this is where they’re meant to be.”

Galaszewski didn’t respond to messages, and Gorai declined to comment.

Mayer, the Notre Dame Law School professor, questioned their advice. Although it’s true that the IRS has rarely revoked a church’s tax-exempt status over political activity — there has been one documented case since the 1990s, he said — it can take other actions, he said, including issuing warning letters or opening audits.

“That advice, of course, is ‘it’s all right because you won’t get caught,’” Mayer said.

He said pastors who want to explicitly engage in partisan politics should remember that “if you’re doing this and it violates the statute — and I think what they’re doing here does — you’re violating a law enacted by Congress.”

 

[SydneyCarton 48063]

4 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Churches hosting Turning Point get-out-the-vote events likely violate tax law, experts say

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/turning-point-action-church-voting-pro-trump-tax-law-rcna178053

 

Scientology got tax exempt status by suing the fuck out the IRS repeatedly. AFter they fucking failed to infiltrate the IRS with agents that were Scientologists. They had hundreds of millions of dollars at the time in free cash, even though they owed the IRS a Billion Dollars when they started the lawsuits and massive media campaign, etc. 

It seems to me that smaller Baptist, and Evangelical churches have the opposite situation, and it's a vulnerability. The IRs should revoke their status, or challenge it, and take each little fucking church without ties to a massive organization and make them pay the fucking attorney fees to prove they didn't violate the law. Oh, you violated it and go bankrupt? Ok, well, we're going to take a real hard look at the brand new church you try to open up right down the street when you apply for tax exempt status. If you were a documened member and applying for the new church? NO dice, 10 year blacklist. You recruit completely new people with a clean record to be the face of the new church? Well ok, each new church gets a 5 year probationary period where you can get your shit revoked for violating the law, and you'll owe back taxes as a result. 

The SBC loves being a loose organization without overall ties so they can continue to diddle kids and suffer no consequecnes, well, guess what, that means you don't have shared resources to legally defend each fucking church that violates the fucking law. Your big churches like Second Bapstist would probably be just fine. They have resources. But the little ones would get fucked. And eventually they'd have a hard time recruiting new cut-outs to sign their names on the Tax Exempt documents. So by default...these guys would probably just end up...following the fucking law. I'm sure some smaller congretations where every member is a die hard trumper would survive and not leak anything...but a lot wouldn't. Make them fucking work for it.

I'm so sick of the poison of organized religion fucking politics more than it's already fucked. 

[Dnaguy 11920]

29 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Scientology got tax exempt status by suing the fuck out the IRS repeatedly. AFter they fucking failed to infiltrate the IRS with agents that were Scientologists. They had hundreds of millions of dollars at the time in free cash, even though they owed the IRS a Billion Dollars when they started the lawsuits and massive media campaign, etc. 

It seems to me that smaller Baptist, and Evangelical churches have the opposite situation, and it's a vulnerability. The IRs should revoke their status, or challenge it, and take each little fucking church without ties to a massive organization and make them pay the fucking attorney fees to prove they didn't violate the law. Oh, you violated it and go bankrupt? Ok, well, we're going to take a real hard look at the brand new church you try to open up right down the street when you apply for tax exempt status. If you were a documened member and applying for the new church? NO dice, 10 year blacklist. You recruit completely new people with a clean record to be the face of the new church? Well ok, each new church gets a 5 year probationary period where you can get your shit revoked for violating the law, and you'll owe back taxes as a result. 

The SBC loves being a loose organization without overall ties so they can continue to diddle kids and suffer no consequecnes, well, guess what, that means you don't have shared resources to legally defend each fucking church that violates the fucking law. Your big churches like Second Bapstist would probably be just fine. They have resources. But the little ones would get fucked. And eventually they'd have a hard time recruiting new cut-outs to sign their names on the Tax Exempt documents. So by default...these guys would probably just end up...following the fucking law. I'm sure some smaller congretations where every member is a die hard trumper would survive and not leak anything...but a lot wouldn't. Make them fucking work for it.

I'm so sick of the poison of organized religion fucking politics more than it's already fucked. 

[Al Czervik 1229]

7 minutes ago, Pancho said:

One can guess that CK doesn’t know who this guy is. 

[Red Five 40846]

One can guess that CK doesn’t know who this guy is. 

He did not call conservatives garbage.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13509]

57 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Churches hosting Turning Point get-out-the-vote events likely violate tax law, experts say

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/turning-point-action-church-voting-pro-trump-tax-law-rcna178053

 

Dems are afraid of churches and tax exempt status. Dems also have an unrealistic hope to unite the country. Hence why Obama decided to forgive the Bush Admin for all crimes under their watch especially related to the war on terror.

[Biff Tannen 45665]

2 hours ago, Al Czervik said:

One can guess that CK doesn’t know who this guy is. 

Full video

 

[mchookem 16322]

@Chewbacca @Chopper @6th Street @honolulu hornand anybody else in CO/Denver area...school me on CO republicans? not Boebert diehards and rural maga, those folks are the same everywhere...but like, how are citified republicans around here? 

i have a new friend i met at a doxie meet-up (Duke's "girlfriend's" mom lol), and she's invited us to a small get-together this weekend for the pups to play. maybe 12-15 people.

since it's so close to the election and we're still getting to know each, other she was gracious enough to lmk most of the other guests are republican and obviously politics might come up (it sounds weird but was actually really sweet and i appreciated the warning lol)

funny, she said 'since you're from Texas i assume you probably lean R?' to which i replied 'well yes i am from Texas... but politics is literally a top two reason we fled the insanity!' haha

anyway, my reply was basically 'not a problem at all for me...but fyi I am a highly informed voter, a have a govt degree from UT, i spent my entire career in the public sector, and politics is basically my hobby...so yeah, don't start none, won't be none' lol ( i mean i was also sweet and nice 😊 but that was the gist)

so honestly, im not particularly concerned, i'm more than capable of refusing to engage and letting Duke hang out with his girlfriend for a couple of hours without getting offended if politics comes up... but i'm also very likely to call out bs if/when i hear it being spread. but as these are Denverites and i have literally not seen one single Trump flag or sign in the city itself (H/W is everywhere!) i'm assuming these are going to be much more of the educated, wealthy/country club type... and i'm just wondering if there's any kind of hot buttons or whatever to be careful of?🤔

my hope is since they are hopefully NOT maga morons that we can just actually avoid politics altogether... you know, like civilized people used to? 

the fact that she had no idea which way i leaned after hanging out several times tells me that I am capable of that...but i don't know about others 😐

anyway... open to advice/suggestions! 😜

[Ted Lange 16084]

 

 

[Pato del Muerto 52486]

Timely 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13509]

32 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

 

 

Wheels of justice really move slow.

[Chopper 17230]

4 hours ago, mchookem said:

@Chewbacca @Chopper @6th Street @honolulu hornand anybody else in CO/Denver area...school me on CO republicans? not Boebert diehards and rural maga, those folks are the same everywhere...but like, how are citified republicans around here? 

i have a new friend i met at a doxie meet-up (Duke's "girlfriend's" mom lol), and she's invited us to a small get-together this weekend for the pups to play. maybe 12-15 people.

since it's so close to the election and we're still getting to know each, other she was gracious enough to lmk most of the other guests are republican and obviously politics might come up (it sounds weird but was actually really sweet and i appreciated the warning lol)

funny, she said 'since you're from Texas i assume you probably lean R?' to which i replied 'well yes i am from Texas... but politics is literally a top two reason we fled the insanity!' haha

anyway, my reply was basically 'not a problem at all for me...but fyi I am a highly informed voter, a have a govt degree from UT, i spent my entire career in the public sector, and politics is basically my hobby...so yeah, don't start none, won't be none' lol ( i mean i was also sweet and nice 😊 but that was the gist)

so honestly, im not particularly concerned, i'm more than capable of refusing to engage and letting Duke hang out with his girlfriend for a couple of hours without getting offended if politics comes up... but i'm also very likely to call out bs if/when i hear it being spread. but as these are Denverites and i have literally not seen one single Trump flag or sign in the city itself (H/W is everywhere!) i'm assuming these are going to be much more of the educated, wealthy/country club type... and i'm just wondering if there's any kind of hot buttons or whatever to be careful of?🤔

my hope is since they are hopefully NOT maga morons that we can just actually avoid politics altogether... you know, like civilized people used to? 

the fact that she had no idea which way i leaned after hanging out several times tells me that I am capable of that...but i don't know about others 😐

anyway... open to advice/suggestions! 😜

I don't raise the issue of politics with people at all. Sure, sometimes I open my big mouth but I've become pretty good at just keeping it shut in public. It's really like the last thing I want to talk about unless I know the person is well-educated and experienced in politics. If people choose to reveal themselves to me and they're wingnuts, I generally avoid them in the future. We have a few R acquaintances and for things like pickleball I'll tolerate 'em but generally, probably because Fort Collins is pretty firm for the Democrats, they keep their mouths shut too. It's funny the assumptions people make. When we first moved here, a couple down the street assumed I was a Republican because I always wore a Longhorns cap when walking the dog. They were a bit cool at first, but ever since they realized her mistake, we've all become big buds.  I was pretty shocked that people would make that assumption but your experience is what I've found in many cases, if they know you're from Texas they assume you're R. We have to explain Austin and UT to a lot of people. 

[Gatorubet 30185]

Machete? We have something in common. Maybe you can date some of my friends in jail.

[Biff Tannen 45665]

First work call this morning was a trumpkin who went off about how business is down because everyone is worried about the election.
 

Yes, everyone is worried because you fuck sticks want to elect a god damn fascist demagogue who will plunge us into chaos and uncertainty. Of course I can’t say that to her.  I have to maintain professionalism  

According to her it’s because Kamala is a liar and Trump will fix everything and everyone will have money again. Well thought out and well reasoned. God dammit. 

[Red Five 40846]

First work call this morning was a trumpkin who went off about how business is down because everyone is worried about the election.
 
Yes, everyone is worried because you fuck sticks want to elect a god damn fascist demagogue who will plunge us into chaos and uncertainty. Of course I can’t say that to her.  I have to maintain professionalism  
According to her it’s because Kamala is a liar and Trump will fix everything and everyone will have money again. Well thought out and well reasoned. God dammit. 

I get this kind of sentiment from my family Dotardarians from time to time. Drives me insane. “…. you know, because of how crazy politics are these days. Because of the crazy liberals.”

Uh huh. That’s why.

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19100]

8 minutes ago, Red Five said:

I get this kind of sentiment from my family Dotardarians from time to time. Drives me insane. “…. you know, because of how crazy politics are these days. Because of the crazy liberals.”

Uh huh. That’s why.

 

12 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

First work call this morning was a trumpkin who went off about how business is down because everyone is worried about the election.
 

Yes, everyone is worried because you fuck sticks want to elect a god damn fascist demagogue who will plunge us into chaos and uncertainty. Of course I can’t say that to her.  I have to maintain professionalism  

According to her it’s because Kamala is a liar and Trump will fix everything and everyone will have money again. Well thought out and well reasoned. God dammit. 

It is infuriating.

[morehornsepower 887]

Was at a neighborhood halloween party last night and got to overhear some MAGA logic

- "Trump is going to win in a landslide, because the *lack* of Trump signs in our neighborhood somehow proves that Trump supporters don't feel the need to "show off" who they are voting for, which then proves that everyone "knows" he's going to win comfortably."

- "All the Harris signs are just old southern democrats who will always vote democrat because they think all republicans are evil - they are obviously not paying attention to the news at all."

[SydneyCarton 48063]

1 minute ago, morehornsepower said:

Was at a neighborhood halloween party last night and got to overhear some MAGA logic

- "Trump is going to win in a landslide, because the *lack* of Trump signs in our neighborhood somehow proves that Trump supporters don't feel the need to "show off" who they are voting for, which then proves that everyone "knows" he's going to win comfortably."

- "All the Harris signs are just old southern democrats who will always vote democrat because they think all republicans are evil - they are obviously not paying attention to the news at all."

This is why I don't socialize.

I'd have just fucking pulled the green shirt laughing guy right to their face. 

[TwiceHorn 31440]

22 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

I sweatergawd, going MAGA makes you instantly lose 50% of your IQ points.  She if absolutely fucking batshit loony.

Was thinking in the same vein, given her Rhodes scholarship and further graduate degrees at Oxford.

But, she's also just generally a thought extremist, so just proving the horseshoe/circle theory.

[Brisketexan 105077]

1 minute ago, TwiceHorn said:

Was thinking in the same vein, given her Rhodes scholarship and further graduate degrees at Oxford.

But, she's also just generally a thought extremist, so just proving the horseshoe/circle theory.

As to that horsehoe theory, it's amazing how the affliction of "believing your own bullshit" seems to strike hardest among those of lowest intelligence AND those with highest intelligence.  We expect gullibility from the low-IQ crowd.  But from the high-IQ crowd, it throws us.  It shouldn't, because it's not gullibility that's at play, but rather hubris.  If the mere thought of a possibility occurs to the high-IQ'd, they presume that it must be true, because it emanated from their brilliant mind.

Naomi Wolfe is smart, really good at pattern observation and such.  Therefore, whenever she spots something that 1) MIGHT be a pattern and 2) (and this is an important party, because she's also a lizard-brained emotional being) resonates with her preconceived beliefs, she concludes internally "a-ha, I, the brilliant Naomi, have spotted a pattern, and because I am the brilliant Naomi, I am right!"

When I was young, my S. Texas grandfather gave me the highest praise anyone has ever given me: "Old Brisket's gonna do alright...he's smart enough to know how dumb he is."  For much of my life, I thought that was praise that set me apart from the riff-raff who were lower-IQ and had a serious case of Dunning-Kruger.  As I've gotten older, I've realized that there is another group of Dunning-Kruger sufferers who are-objectively-"smarter" than I am.  That revelation would surprise young Brisket.  

[wildcat09 29347]

12 minutes ago, morehornsepower said:

Was at a neighborhood halloween party last night and got to overhear some MAGA logic

- "Trump is going to win in a landslide, because the *lack* of Trump signs in our neighborhood somehow proves that Trump supporters don't feel the need to "show off" who they are voting for, which then proves that everyone "knows" he's going to win comfortably."

- "All the Harris signs are just old southern democrats who will always vote democrat because they think all republicans are evil - they are obviously not paying attention to the news at all."

Holy shit, that's incredible cope. That's art right there.

[miguelito 11255]

13 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I'd have just fucking pulled the green shirt laughing guy right to their face. 

Green shirt guy would have been a good Halloween costume.

[TwiceHorn 31440]

20 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Dems are afraid of churches and tax exempt status. Dems also have an unrealistic hope to unite the country. Hence why Obama decided to forgive the Bush Admin for all crimes under their watch especially related to the war on terror.

Somewhat yes.  Revocation of tax-exempt status is sure to evoke cries of violation of the First Amendment and gubmint interference with religion.

But possibly more importantly, if the law is enforced equally, black churches are guilty of the same conduct with approximately the same frequency, and loss of tax-exempt status would surely destroy them.

[SydneyCarton 48063]

12 minutes ago, miguelito said:

Green shirt guy would have been a good Halloween costume.

Slight aside, I'm thrilled last night that, after reading this or other threads in the CR this AM, that I didn't see anyone dressed in a fucking garbage bag last night trick or treating. Mother fuck ton of Harris/Walz signs and the like, however, in the neighborhood we went to with friends.