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This is such unbridled horseshit. I live in fucking California, and I'm not sure if I've ever seen a Fuck Trump shirt/flag/bumper sticker/whatever in person. I can't go a day without seeing Let's Go B

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Did not have former Skid Row lead singer Sebastian Bach talking shit to MAGA cult members on my bingo card. But here we are.  

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17 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

Imagine thinking Dumb DeSantis is the perfect model for a candidate.

A racist shitbag???

YASSSS That’s who we need more of!

He’s like something that was the half failed attempt of a Trump cloning experiment.

DeSantis is what happens when you attempt to clone Trump but you used his Big Mac laced poop for DNA

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36 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

Imagine thinking Dumb DeSantis is the perfect model for a candidate.

A racist shitbag???

YASSSS That’s who we need more of!

He’s like something that was the half failed attempt of a Trump cloning experiment.

How about Dan Crenshaw. I’m sure you have something nasty to say about him even though he is a war hero. There are lots of Republicans like Crenshaw, McSally and DeSantis that have more discipline than Trump and can reshape the GOP into what the base wants.

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16 minutes ago, Iconoclast Texan said:

How about Dan Crenshaw. I’m sure you have something nasty to say about him even though he is a war hero. There are lots of Republicans like Crenshaw, McSally and DeSantis that have more discipline than Trump and can reshape the GOP into what the base wants.

Being a war hero doesn’t make you smart. Just like sucking dick for meth doesn’t make you a porn star.

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On 1/18/2019 at 5:57 PM, Iconoclast Texan said:

How about Dan Crenshaw. I’m sure you have something nasty to say about him even though he is a war hero. There are lots of Republicans like Crenshaw, McSally and DeSantis that have more discipline than Trump and can reshape the GOP into what the base wants.

mcparticipationtrophy amirite?

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On 1/18/2019 at 4:06 PM, Js1 said:

Jacob Wohl, Ben Shapiro, Candace Owens, Kayleigh McEnehnehneh, etc. say "nope!"

If I was George Soros, I’d be funneling money to these people, and making sure that after the GOP has its little crisis with the final Mueller findings, that these are the Republicans who come out on top.  

That would be the easiest way to destroy the GOP.  Make sure those fuckers are the new Hannitys, Limbaughs, Coulters, etc.

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Jacob Wohl, Ben Shapiro, Candace Owens, Kayleigh McEnehnehneh, etc. say "nope!"

Ben and Candace are the two I know, you should also add Steven Crowder.

Young Republicans are still anti everything that isn't white, rich, and straight. Seems like a failing stratagy and would make a party debunked, but wouldn't you know it, that's what wins elections. Young Republicans have no moral character unless it zieg hails, or bows to the white pointy hat. Young Republicans hate the Jews, cause they have control over everything, that's why in 2020 the next thing they want gone is Israel, unfortunately Young Republicans hate Muslims so just might toss a nuke or two in the mix. Young Republicans suck the cheeto dick, but make sure to spit after, cause slurping it down would make them gay. Young Republicans hate blacks, cause well they look different, and what's worse than that!

Or you're just a fucking idiot.

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On 1/18/2019 at 5:57 PM, Iconoclast Texan said:

How about Dan Crenshaw.

Is that the pirate that went on SNL to make nice? Only to come off as a complete retard on his twitters? Yeah.

I think the right wing media wants him to be their darling, but it's only going to work with some of the slower constituents.

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Is that the pirate that went on SNL to make nice? Only to come off as a complete retard on his twitters? Yeah.

I think the right wing media wants him to be their darling, but it's only going to work with some of the slower constituents.

I never heard of the guy, but isn't wrong that in an alternate world, all that would be true, but it aint, so he can fuck himself.

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On 1/19/2019 at 6:43 AM, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Yep. And the cycle will happen again ending in a Great Depression, Watergate, or Trump only to be reborn again.

The cycle of the GOP can’t be stopped.  They will always be the party of the 1% convincing poor suckers that they’re protecting them from big government while they rob their children of healthcare, education, opportunity, and environment.

What was so disappointing after Watergate was Carter. The Democrats squandered an opportunity.

This time a Democrat will be elected in 2020 and again in 2024. AOC is eligible in 2028. If she keeps going the way she is nothing with prevent her from having two terms.

In four terms of Democrats we will have a other new deal, and hopefully a couple more decades of prosperity to follow.

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This is so damn good.
 

That’s gotdamn fantastic.
And good. The GOP has gotten a pass for too damned long allowing them to say “we love MLK.” Bullshit. They love selected, sanitized quotes. But list Dr Kong’s actual positions, without attribution, and they’d condemn every last one as libtard socialist evil anti-American shit. Which, coincidentally, is EXACTLY the position their fathers and grandfathers took when MLK was alive.
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On 1/18/2019 at 5:12 PM, Iconoclast Texan said:

As long as the GOP gets reshaped to become a party that (1) no longer slavishly supports free trade, (2) abandons neoconservative foreign policy and embraces a semi-isolationist stance and (3) limits both legal and illegal immigration, getting blown out next election because Cheeto dick is incompetent will be worth it. We will have smarter people run who can excite the base in a more refined style. Guys like Ron DeSantis will be coming up the pipeline. Driving out the neoconservative Bush war criminal element from the GOP has me very excited about the future of the Party.

I realize you are just trolling, but what satisfaction do you take from posting something like this on here or really any other website for that matter? 

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On 1/18/2019 at 3:50 PM, bad_teammate said:

Would this were anything but a dream.

After Trump is gone, younger Republicans will rise up and claim that they are going to renew the vital spirit of the TRUE Republican party. Centrists will rejoice at the call of the savior of the normal order, and support will swell for the Republicans once again.

In this thread we have supposed GOP-haters championing a ticket with a centrist Dem at the top and a Republican as VP.

These people are mad at Trump for breaking norms and being gross. As soon as a norms-reinforcing decent human wears the Republican crown, they will come back home to the GOP.

I used to subscribe to this theory. However, I don't see how it plays out for "centrist" Republicans.  The young people with ideals similar to theirs are now all Democrats. Young Republicans are primarily Trumpist. Many of them are even much worse than Trump.  That moderate wing used to like Chris Christie before his corruption came to light. Well, Beto is that corruption free Christie. There isn't anyone like that in the new GOP.  The Dems have nearly all the new moderates. 

Before Trump, there were moderate Reps who ran and won in states like NY and CA. They dont exist anymore. If Schwarzenegger and Pataki ran right now, they'd be Dems. 

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A Pizzagate conspiracy theorist who believes that Hillary Clinton abuses children and that four out of five world leaders are pedophiles has spent the last few weeks promoting herself as a member of Donald Trump’s 2020 advisory board.

And for more than a month, Team Trump let Ann Vandersteel’s boasts stand. For more than 40 days, board members and campaign officials repeatedly refused to confirm or deny whether she was in fact affiliated.

Then, just as The Daily Beast was set to publish a story about her claims, a response from the board materialized.

At 10:32 p.m. on Tuesday, Mark Serrano, identifying himself as a “Trump Campaign Advisor,” sent a brief statement.

“We formed our advisory board in April of 2017, which now includes 19 tremendous advocates for President Trump,” the statement said. “Ann has not been, nor is she currently on the board.”

There was no word on why the response had taken so long, if there was a misunderstanding of some kind, or if anyone from the board or campaign has asked Vandersteel to cease and desist.

Vandersteel did not respond to multiple requests for comment. But her biography is riddled with reasons for Team Trump to run for the hills. 

Vandersteel, president of the far-right media outlet YourVoice America, is firmly on the fringe. 

She has tweeted that the nonsensical Pizzagate conspiracy theory that Hillary Clinton and other high-ranking Democrats operate a pedophile sex dungeon out of a Washington, D.C. pizzeria is “all true” and “real.” Vandersteel has also promoted debunked 9/11 conspiracy theories, suggesting in January that a bomb brought down the World Trade Center’s Building 7 site. She has championed QAnon, the bizarre conspiracy theory that posits that Trump is engaged in a secret war with a global cabal of Democratic pedophiles. And she has claimedthat nearly 80 percent of world leaders are pedophiles.

Even for Team Trump, which has attracted some interesting characters along the way, her views are extreme. But for over a month, the Trump campaign and its advisory board of media surrogates remained silent as she insisted she was an official part of the #MAGA team. 

https://www.thedailybeast.com/team-trump-finally-disavows-pizzagate-theorist-who-boasted-of-being-on-2020-board

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Statement from DeSantis office:

"Mr. Ertel has been relieved of his duties.  In his defense, he wasn't mocking hurricane victims.  He was mocking black people.  Mr. Ertel and our office extend apologies to most hurricane victims who took offense to his actions.  Michael Ertel is a good man with a good family.  I've personally known Michael for years and can attest that he has fed way more stray dogs than he has electrocuted or drowned. -- Governor Ron DeSantis"  

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7 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

IMO college Halloween costumes should be off limits when it comes to employment decisions.

Only because I went as Osama bin Laden one year. 

Nobody will ever beat the couple that went as Ted Kennedy and Mary Jo Kopechne (post-crash) one year in law school.  Now THOSE parties saw some tasteless shit.

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45 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

IMO college Halloween costumes should be off limits when it comes to employment decisions.

Only because I went as Osama bin Laden one year. 

Agree, we did a Rodney King ensemble one year and those pictures haven't aged well.

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I'm not sure how some of these kids can still call themselves "conservative," holding the views they do. I thought it was the social stuff that used to distinguish Republicans from Libertarians.

From the NYTimes: Young Voters Keep Moving to the Left on Social Issues, Republicans Included

As a self-described political conservative, Reagan Larson might seem to be a natural fit for the Republican Party. The 19-year-old college student from South Dakota grew up in a Catholic household that objected to same-sex marriage, and she remains firmly opposed to abortion.

But in many ways, that is where the ideological similarities end. Ms. Larson, a dual major in biology and Spanish at Gustavus Adolphus College in St. Peter, Minn., does not oppose the legalization of marriage equality. She views climate change as undeniable, believes “immigrants make our country richer,” and disagrees with her parents on the need for a border wall.

Ms. Larson is part of Generation Z, one of the most ethnically diverse and progressive age groups in American history. People born after 1996 tend to espouse similar views to the age cohort just ahead of them, the Millennials, but they are far more open to social change than older generations have been, according to the findings of a new report by the Pew Research Center. The findings mark a shift that could substantially reshape the nation’s political and economic landscape.

According to the study — which was based on online surveys of 920 youths aged 13 to 17 and nearly 11,000 adults 18 or older — only 30 percent of Generation Z respondents said they approved of President Trump’s performance; more than half believed humans were fueling climate change; and 70 percent said they wanted the government to do more to solve the nation’s problems. Those views roughly mirror attitudes held by Millennials, and together, the two age groups may add up to a powerful voting bloc at odds with Republican orthodoxy, political scientists say.

“This should be an alert to the Republican Party as they think about generational replacement,” said Elizabeth Bennion, a professor of political science at Indiana University South Bend.

Each succeeding generation of Americans tends to be more progressive than those that came before, Ms. Bennion noted, a trend that potentially poses a long-term threat to the Republican Party’s power.

“If there isn’t a will to change within the party,” she said, “it could become permanently in the minority moving forward.”

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Democrats of all ages tend to align fairly closely on major social and political issues, but the report highlights a sharp generational divide among Republicans. For example, more than half of the youngest Republicans surveyed said that racial and ethnic diversity was good for American society, a view shared by fewer than 40 percent of their Millennial counterparts, 34 percent of Generation Xers and just three in 10 baby boomers.

Young Republicans are also more likely to approve of same-sex marriage and accept transgender people.

Michael Schaefer, 18, a politically conservative college freshman from Youngstown, Ohio, said he was in the sixth grade when some classmates came out as gay, and had a number of transgender students as friends in high school.

“For over half my life, I’ve been shown the other side of sexuality and gender,” he said. “I don’t care about their sex or gender, I just care about the individual.”

More than one-third of Generation Z respondents said they knew someone who preferred to be addressed using gender-neutral pronouns, the Pew study found, compared with 12 percent of baby boomers.

More than 68 million Americans belong to Generation Z, representing about 22 percent of the nation’s population, according to 2017 survey data from the United States Census Bureau — a share larger than the Millennials’ and second only to the baby boomers’.

Contrary to conventional wisdom, Americans’ political and social views do not tend to drift to the right as they age, according to Kim Parker, who oversees research into social demographic trends at the Pew Research Center.

“The differences we see across age groups have more to do with the unique historical circumstances in which they come of age,” she said, noting that demographers have not seen a generational pattern of growing more conservative or more Republican over time.

Paulina Aceves, 18, a high school senior in Scottsdale, Ariz, embodies the complexities of her generation. The daughter of Mexican immigrants, she proudly identifies as a Christian and a Republican. But she does not support a border wall, nor does she believe the government should be less involved in American society.

“The right solution is definitely for the government to take a more active role,” she said.

The Republican Party has lost younger Americans like Travis Gaither, though, as it has moved farther to the right on issues like immigration, gun control and climate change.

Mr. Gaither, who grew up in Tennessee, described his parents as “typical southern white Republicans” who belong to two country clubs and are active in the Chamber of Commerce.

But Mr. Gaither, 20, was chairman of the High School Democrats of Tennessee during his senior year, a political transformation fueled by his liberal social views and cemented by his outrage over Mr. Trump’s hard-line policies.

The Pew study found that two-thirds of Mr. Gaither’s generation believe, as he does, that black people are treated less fairly than whites in the United States. He said his feelings on the subject were shaped by an early brush with racism in high school, where a black girl he knew was menaced by a white football player who threatened to lynch her. And then his views were solidified last summer, he said, after a police officer in Nashville killed an unarmed black man.

“I feel like I’ve moved toward the left, as the Republican Party has shifted toward the right,” he said.

 

 

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I'm not sure how some of these kids can still call themselves "conservative," holding the views they do. I thought it was the social stuff that used to distinguish Republicans from Libertarians.

From the NYTimes: Young Voters Keep Moving to the Left on Social Issues, Republicans Included

As a self-described political conservative, Reagan Larson might seem to be a natural fit for the Republican Party. The 19-year-old college student from South Dakota grew up in a Catholic household that objected to same-sex marriage, and she remains firmly opposed to abortion.

But in many ways, that is where the ideological similarities end. Ms. Larson, a dual major in biology and Spanish at Gustavus Adolphus College in St. Peter, Minn., does not oppose the legalization of marriage equality. She views climate change as undeniable, believes “immigrants make our country richer,” and disagrees with her parents on the need for a border wall.

Ms. Larson is part of Generation Z, one of the most ethnically diverse and progressive age groups in American history. People born after 1996 tend to espouse similar views to the age cohort just ahead of them, the Millennials, but they are far more open to social change than older generations have been, according to the findings of a new report by the Pew Research Center. The findings mark a shift that could substantially reshape the nation’s political and economic landscape.

According to the study — which was based on online surveys of 920 youths aged 13 to 17 and nearly 11,000 adults 18 or older — only 30 percent of Generation Z respondents said they approved of President Trump’s performance; more than half believed humans were fueling climate change; and 70 percent said they wanted the government to do more to solve the nation’s problems. Those views roughly mirror attitudes held by Millennials, and together, the two age groups may add up to a powerful voting bloc at odds with Republican orthodoxy, political scientists say.

“This should be an alert to the Republican Party as they think about generational replacement,” said Elizabeth Bennion, a professor of political science at Indiana University South Bend.

Each succeeding generation of Americans tends to be more progressive than those that came before, Ms. Bennion noted, a trend that potentially poses a long-term threat to the Republican Party’s power.

“If there isn’t a will to change within the party,” she said, “it could become permanently in the minority moving forward.”

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Democrats of all ages tend to align fairly closely on major social and political issues, but the report highlights a sharp generational divide among Republicans. For example, more than half of the youngest Republicans surveyed said that racial and ethnic diversity was good for American society, a view shared by fewer than 40 percent of their Millennial counterparts, 34 percent of Generation Xers and just three in 10 baby boomers.

Young Republicans are also more likely to approve of same-sex marriage and accept transgender people.

Michael Schaefer, 18, a politically conservative college freshman from Youngstown, Ohio, said he was in the sixth grade when some classmates came out as gay, and had a number of transgender students as friends in high school.

“For over half my life, I’ve been shown the other side of sexuality and gender,” he said. “I don’t care about their sex or gender, I just care about the individual.”

More than one-third of Generation Z respondents said they knew someone who preferred to be addressed using gender-neutral pronouns, the Pew study found, compared with 12 percent of baby boomers.

More than 68 million Americans belong to Generation Z, representing about 22 percent of the nation’s population, according to 2017 survey data from the United States Census Bureau — a share larger than the Millennials’ and second only to the baby boomers’.

Contrary to conventional wisdom, Americans’ political and social views do not tend to drift to the right as they age, according to Kim Parker, who oversees research into social demographic trends at the Pew Research Center.

“The differences we see across age groups have more to do with the unique historical circumstances in which they come of age,” she said, noting that demographers have not seen a generational pattern of growing more conservative or more Republican over time.

Paulina Aceves, 18, a high school senior in Scottsdale, Ariz, embodies the complexities of her generation. The daughter of Mexican immigrants, she proudly identifies as a Christian and a Republican. But she does not support a border wall, nor does she believe the government should be less involved in American society.

“The right solution is definitely for the government to take a more active role,” she said.

The Republican Party has lost younger Americans like Travis Gaither, though, as it has moved farther to the right on issues like immigration, gun control and climate change.

Mr. Gaither, who grew up in Tennessee, described his parents as “typical southern white Republicans” who belong to two country clubs and are active in the Chamber of Commerce.

But Mr. Gaither, 20, was chairman of the High School Democrats of Tennessee during his senior year, a political transformation fueled by his liberal social views and cemented by his outrage over Mr. Trump’s hard-line policies.

The Pew study found that two-thirds of Mr. Gaither’s generation believe, as he does, that black people are treated less fairly than whites in the United States. He said his feelings on the subject were shaped by an early brush with racism in high school, where a black girl he knew was menaced by a white football player who threatened to lynch her. And then his views were solidified last summer, he said, after a police officer in Nashville killed an unarmed black man.

“I feel like I’ve moved toward the left, as the Republican Party has shifted toward the right,” he said.

 

 

What’s funny is the baby boomers just assume this is a faze that they youngs will get past like they did and start voting for Reagan when they get older just like they did. They’re completely wrong about that given the differences in how things are now but most wont live long enough to see that. 

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