The GQP: Trumpist Death Cult

[Walden Ponderer 12639]

8 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

He’s have rallies now but he can’t afford them.

Actually, an interesting question: are there any event promoters in the country that he hasn't stiffed yet?

[Pescado_Rojo 19395]

He'll be so dementia addled by 2024 they won't be able to put him in front of a live audience. His whole campaign will be 30 second commercials and printed statements. No debates, no public appearances other than waiving from balconies. He'll still get the nomination, and 40% of America will vote for him.  

[Brandywine 1315]

1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

But Trump is lazy as fuck.  He can run his PACs, collect hundreds of millions of dollars, be a kingmaker and anoint a Presidential candidate who will give him pardons, all without leaving Mar-a-Lago.

What he said.

[BrickHorn 18204]

2 hours ago, Js1 said:

 

There is a coordinated and dangerous propaganda effort by the right to recast the January 6 Insurrection as harmless hijinks. Take, for example, this unfunny propaganda dressed up to look like satire. 

This revisionist history push isn’t about saving the January 6 insurrectionists from punishment so much as diminishing the public’s distaste for armed coup attempts. Because they’re going to try that shit again and they’d prefer we not take it seriously until it’s too late.

[Brisketexan 104884]

4 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

There is a coordinated and dangerous propaganda effort by the right to recast the January 6 Insurrection as harmless hijinks. Take, for example, this unfunny propaganda dressed up to look like satire. 

This revisionist history push isn’t about saving the January 6 insurrectionists from punishment so much as diminishing the public’s distaste for armed coup attempts. Because they’re going to try that shit again and they’d prefer we not take it seriously until it’s too late.

This guy gets it.

[Red Five 40768]

You know, if they had gotten their hands on someone like, say, Ted Cruz, it would be a lot harder to play this off as nothing. Not saying just saying. 

[Pato del Muerto 52452]

1 hour ago, Walden Ponderer said:

Who are you kidding? They roll in the trough even though he's rude as fuck. 27 fried chickens, and a diet coke.

27 Big Macs 

1 hour ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

I personally don't think he runs. I think he has less "power" as the President and more power being able to see to it who he wants gets elected. He's going to try and get someone in there who will pardon him on day 1.

He found out that being in office limits his ability to steal, or at least hampers it.  He prefers the power and leniency of being a celebrity private citizen. 

1 hour ago, MC Fresh Breath said:

 

Demand a vote audit, with signature check. 

37 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

The only thing he liked as much as grifting and golfing at his “resort” on our dime were the rallies. 
 

That fat tub of shit is running. No doubt about it. 

He will be like ric flair back when he would travel to all of the regional wrestling promotions to be the big draw. Show up to others’ rallies to give them a pop, talk about himself for 30 minutes, then gtfo without having to talk with any of them. 

[Brandywine 1315]

So what is Trump's endgame? The man is mentally sick. 

 

 

 

[WhatTheBuck 28762]

8 minutes ago, Brandywine said:

So what is Trump's endgame? The man is mentally sick.

If he’s still alive, he will run again in ‘24. He’s a narcissist and a grifter and he’s discovered that fools will give him money for being a fake politician. He’s not going to do that for anyone else. His entire worldview is, “Me! Me! Me!” He’s not going to step back and be a “king maker” because he doesn’t care about anyone but himself. (Other than desperately wanting to get into Ivanka’s panties.)

Vladimir Putin is his hero. What would Putin do? That’s what Trump will do. It’s not complicated.

[Biff Tannen 45639]

19 minutes ago, Brandywine said:

So what is Trump's endgame? The man is mentally sick. 

 

 

 

He has no endgame, he's a squirrel.  

The endgame is for him to die.

[washparkhorn 9937]

2 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

That's not true, the progressive maximalist Democrats and DSA types are trying to lose elections in completely legitimate fashion. 

Thanks for the help.

[Mole 4321]

4 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

 

To be fair, Lindsay is correct here. That’s kind of the problem.

[Jive Turkey 12585]

1 hour ago, BrickHorn said:

There is a coordinated and dangerous propaganda effort by the right to recast the January 6 Insurrection as harmless hijinks. Take, for example, this unfunny propaganda dressed up to look like satire. 

This revisionist history push isn’t about saving the January 6 insurrectionists from punishment so much as diminishing the public’s distaste for armed coup attempts. Because they’re going to try that shit again and they’d prefer we not take it seriously until it’s too late.

the next coup attempt will be way more violent.  it's gonna be like The Handmaid's Tale.

 

[henrygandorf 29185]

50 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

He’s not going to step back and be a “king maker” because he doesn’t care about anyone but himself.

i'm not completely convinced it would even work.  he's tried several times to stand next to a candidate and tell people to vote for them.  they lose more than they win.

even the trumpiest of trumpers like desantis, cruz, rubio, pompeo - they can't pull in 73mm votes anymore than mitt romney could (he can't).

[Biff Tannen 45639]

2 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

even the trumpiest of trumpers like desantis, cruz, rubio, pompeo - they can't pull in 73mm votes anymore than mitt romney could (he can't).

Assuming the Dems turn out matches 2020, which it won’t.  This doesn’t end for a decade at least. And that’s best case if the Dems continue to win. 

[Satchel 6912]

1 hour ago, Brandywine said:

Trump is living the life.

Doesn't have to work, can golf, have whoever he wants kiss his ring, have millions of ignorant followers believe his every word and false lies/conspiracy theories, and, send him millions of dollars on top of it. Why would he want to be President again? But, at some point, he's going to have to say yes or no to running again. Which means he would actually have to do something. I see now how Hitler was able to control and manipulate a large group of believers into doing what he wanted, no matter how evil, and them not feel guilty about it.

Fear. These so called Christians have lost their souls. History and made for TV movies will not be kind.

 

 

 

You left out taking over the parties of people stupid enough to have them at Mara Lago to talk about his stolen election.

[Mrs Whiggins 13049]

1 hour ago, BrickHorn said:

There is a coordinated and dangerous propaganda effort by the right to recast the January 6 Insurrection as harmless hijinks. Take, for example, this unfunny propaganda dressed up to look like satire. 

This revisionist history push isn’t about saving the January 6 insurrectionists from punishment so much as diminishing the public’s distaste for armed coup attempts. Because they’re going to try that shit again and they’d prefer we not take it seriously until it’s too late.

 

1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

This guy gets it.

Definitely. It's working on a larger part of the population than I would've expected. The GQP is/are going to attempt to form coalitions with other groups because they don't have the numbers and while doing it through quasi-legal means is the way they would prefer--voter suppression, not certifying valid Democratic candidates who win, tossing out ballots, intimidation at the polls through various means, the way forward they find perfectly and willingly acceptable is to seize power through violence.

They began with the Tea Party which was a small indication, but realized some found it distasteful and thus like the white supremacist groups who rebranded after Charlottesville, they became the Freedom Caucus and with the takeover, the metamorphosis  is complete and they are the GQP but will likely bring forth the America First platform (to bring aboard the corporate, the slightly less extremist, the people who find the outward racism a little too uncomfortable, etc).

Someone like Lauren Boebert, Greene, Cawthorne, et al are only an outward visible manifestation of that; the rest are also fine with it as well.

Claw back as many of the numbers of people revolted by January 6th and grab all the young and disenfranchised voters and drive turnout. Get people registered. The Republicans are doing that (for all I know it's so they can switch votes), but getting people to wake up to the danger will be difficult.

[Sawbonz 27503]

4 hours ago, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

What is the brown strap he has going across his body under his tie.  Is that part of some Nazi uniform?  I kid but I swear I can picture something like that on a Nazi uniform.  

Sam Browne belt. Or maybe a purse strap

[NAVY 6739]

Too funny

[Brandywine 1315]

1 hour ago, Jive Turkey said:

the next coup attempt will be way more violent.  it's gonna be like The Handmaid's Tale.

 

Unreal

[Js1 85197]

Next he’ll threaten her with a whuppin 

 

[JimmyJames 12271]

The GQP apologizes for the insurrectionists because they support it/them. Their only regret is it failed. It’s why rednecks still fly the confederate flag.

Edited May 12, 2021 by JimmyJames

[mchookem 16300]

1 hour ago, Jive Turkey said:

the next coup attempt will be way more violent.  it's gonna be like The Handmaid's Tale.

 

gotdammit

this is the most depressing thread on this entire site.

[atomheartbevo 89579]

3 hours ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

The only thing he liked as much as grifting and golfing at his “resort” on our dime were the rallies. 

While I agree he liked the rallies, he could be hosting rallies near Mar-a-Lago right now if he really wanted to. He could be holding them at/near his properties, and leverage the rallies to fill their coffers. He could probably funnel his PAC money in through that as well.

3 hours ago, Aqua Buddha said:

He’s have rallies now but he can’t afford them.

This is what I wonder.  I know he's not going to pay to fix up his airplane for the time being (although I'm surprised he hasn't used PAC money to do this).

2 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

He found out that being in office limits his ability to steal, or at least hampers it.  He prefers the power and leniency of being a celebrity private citizen. 

Yep. He really does not want Congress and the states digging through his shit any more than they already have.

2 hours ago, Brandywine said:

So what is Trump's endgame? The man is mentally sick. 

Keeping his "empire" intact, making money, avoiding criminal prosecution. It's probably easier for him to do all of that if he's out of office, but has somebody in office who can protect him (pardons). 

And the state investigations will probably wrap up well before any potential WH run in 2024.

And there's a wild card - if the state investigations really hammer him, a Republican could easily smell blood in the water and go after him. Many Republican lawmakers actually don't give a shit about Trump, outside of the influence he has with his base, and there is a tipping point where he is a liability (outside of his already losing the House, Senate, and WH).

[atomheartbevo 89579]

3 hours ago, BrickHorn said:

This revisionist history push isn’t about saving the January 6 insurrectionists from punishment so much as diminishing the public’s distaste for armed coup attempts. Because they’re going to try that shit again and they’d prefer we not take it seriously until it’s too late.

I don't think most of the Republican politicians are thinking along those lines/that far ahead.  Right now, they are operating in a mode of "keep Trump from crtiticizing me". MTG, etc. are not the majority - the majority of Rs in Congress want to stay out of Trump's crosshairs, and keep their BMDs happy, and win their next election. In fact, an armed coup fucks with the BMDs' ability to do what they want to do.

Trump was trying to get the military involved and they were making it clear they won't go there.  John Roberts isn't going to swear in Cletus because Cletus led an armed group that killed people in Congress, and the Pentagon would react negatively to Cletus trying to claim the White House for himself.

Just because many Republican legislators kiss Trump's ring, doesn't mean they go along with him.

And the American public does not have the stomach for what that would entail - for all of the talk about civil war, it's all bullshit.  A shit-ton of Texans now understood just how fragile things like their power grid were, without the notion of armed insurrectionists taking out power plants. People on the East Coast are discovering that one pipeline can bring their part of the US to a crawl.

I would even argue that if a full-blown coup was going to happen, this past year was the perfect chance.  You had Donald Trump, who would actually go there.  You had Republicans still controlling the Senate. You had the pandemic which allowed the feds and states lots of chances to do things like restrict movement. But it didn't happen.

Edited May 13, 2021 by atomheartbevo

[washparkhorn 9937]

13 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

 he could be hosting rallies near Mar-a-Lago right

He and his neighbors don't want the wretched scum near them. The Mar-a-Lago crew just wants the wretched scum to continue supporting policies that benefit the ultra-wealthy.

A few sneak in from time to time - which is why they serve the hamburger steak with chopped parsley.

Fools them every time and it is "The most tenderest steak in the World!!!"  

Edited May 13, 2021 by washparkhorn
this may be mocking satire, or not. The names and location may have been changed to protect the slow.

[atomheartbevo 89579]

If the nutters were 100% on the coup train, a shitload of them would have been armed on January 6th at the Capitol, or they would have shown up shortly thereafter as things played out on TV.  They had their chance. They had plenty of prep time. Instead, a small number had firearms at their hotels/in their trucks, but they chickened out.

[atomheartbevo 89579]

1 hour ago, JimmyJames said:

The GQP apologizes for the insurrectionists because they support it/them. Their only regret is it failed. It’s why rednecks still fly the confederate flag.

No, they brush it aside because they don't want a Trump proxy primarying them.

Fear of Trump is driving the GOP.  Kevin McCarthy embodies that - he came out and criticized Trump after 1/6, then turned around and changed his tune and after his meeting with Trump, Trump is now Jesus in his eyes. 

[StassneyHorn 6575]

13 minutes ago, washparkhorn said:

He and his neighbors don't want the wretched scum near them. The Mar-a-Lago crew just wants the wretched scum to continue supporting policies that benefit the ultra-wealthy.

A few sneak in from time to time - which is why they serve the hamburger steak with chopped parsley.

Fools them every time and it is "The most tenderest steak in the World!!!"  

Hamburgers n gravy with mashed potatoes and peas was a Mid-week staple growing up. If you stack em right, it’s pretty much shepherds pie. I don’t feel attacked at all and didn’t check my bank account for validation posting this

Edited May 13, 2021 by StassneyHorn

[Mrs Whiggins 13049]

2 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

No, they brush it aside because they don't want a Trump proxy primarying them.

Fear of Trump is driving the GOP.  Kevin McCarthy embodies that - he came out and criticized Trump after 1/6, then turned around and changed his tune and after his meeting with Trump, Trump is now Jesus in his eyes. 

I disagree and the former rep who remarked that McCarthy was interested only in power was on the money. Speaking of money....

The indicators for inflation are increasing and at a most inopportune time. That fear (among voters) will make the US very vulnerable to those that exploit that fear. You saw that this week with the misinformation regarding Colonial and the pipeline being shut down. The supply was adequate, the PRIVATE company took the pipeline offline as a safety measure due to the attack and yet the airwaves were filled with fear mongering and gas runs. Does not bode well. Also shows we (the public) are super stupid at playing it cool so foreign enemies don't see what makes us do stupid stuff, but they already knew anyway because Americans can't keep a secret to save our lives.

[washparkhorn 9937]

1 minute ago, StassneyHorn said:

Hamburgers n gravy with mashed potatoes and peas was a Mid-week staple growing up. I don’t feel attacked at all and didn’t check my bank account for validation

Big PP. Good for you.  Not aimed at you or those of us who ate it as a staple when growing up (I grew up in a military family - where one had to stretch a dollar). 

It's the continuation of an old battle of twits from hornfans.

[Mrs Whiggins 13049]

3 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

Hamburgers n gravy with mashed potatoes and peas was a Mid-week staple growing up. If you stack em right, it’s pretty much shepherds pie. I don’t feel attacked at all and didn’t check my bank account for validation posting this

I make a very good salisbury steak recipe that the family loves. Sometimes I make it only with onions in the gravy, but sometimes I cook mushrooms too. Not in the summer, though. I like to cook light in the summer.

[washparkhorn 9937]

5 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

The indicators for inflation are increasing and at a most inopportune time. That fear (among voters) will make the US very vulnerable to those that exploit that fear. You saw that this week with the misinformation regarding Colonial and the pipeline being shut down. The supply was adequate, the PRIVATE company took the pipeline offline as a safety measure due to the attack and yet the airwaves were filled with fear mongering and gas runs. Does not bode well. Also shows we (the public) are super stupid at playing it cool so foreign enemies don't see what makes us do stupid stuff, but they already knew anyway because Americans can't keep a secret to save our lives.

Inflation fears can drive actual inflation - good point.

We are seeing supply chain breakdowns as the economy begins to ramp. It was expected by the Fed. Based on today's numbers, we should see a rise in the Fed Rate in late 2022/early 2023. 

[horn4life 3758]

I will come back to this thread periodically to state one fact.  It took Hitler two tries to take over Germany. The second time he had the brownshirts, not unlike the group he inspired to storm the Capitol.  It's impossible not to notice the racist tendencies of Trumps most fervent supporters.

History often does repeat itself.  Let us hope that more and more citizens rather than fewer and fewer citizens vote.  If not, I can see no logical argument to believe the GOP would not allow for a 3rd, 4th or even 5th Trump term.

[Blotto 23476]

3 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Vladimir Putin is his hero. What would Putin do? That’s what Trump will do. It’s not complicated.

That's like  a kid in  wheelchair expecting to play in the NBA because he had MJ's posters on his wall and bought some Jordans. Say what you want about Putin, but he's about 20 times smarter than Donnie  and can actually devise and execute successful strategy. Trump is a fucking moron. I still maintain that Trump will posture until the last possible minute and con the rubes out of as much money as he can, but he wont run again. 

[Mrs Whiggins 13049]

2 minutes ago, horn4life said:

I will come back to this thread periodically to state one fact.  It took Hitler two tries to take over Germany. The second time he had the brownshirts, not unlike the group he inspired to storm the Capitol.  It's impossible not to notice the racist tendencies of Trumps most fervent supporters.

History often does repeat itself.  Let us hope that more and more citizens rather than fewer and fewer citizens vote.  If not, I can see no logical argument to believe the GOP would not allow for a 3rd, 4th or even 5th Trump term.

Judging by RW chatter, I am not convinced it has to be Trump. Sure, lot of people are devotees, but at this point in time, they are willing to take a fascist, any fascist over a libtard socialist commie pedo.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

11 minutes ago, Blotto said:

That's like  a kid in  wheelchair expecting to play in the NBA because he had MJ's posters on his wall and bought some Jordans. Say what you want about Putin, but he's about 20 times smarter than Donnie  and can actually devise and execute successful strategy. Trump is a fucking moron. I still maintain that Trump will posture until the last possible minute and con the rubes out of as much money as he can, but he wont run again. 

Trump being a criminal moron is what makes this more embarrassing and painful.  

[atomheartbevo 89579]

31 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

I disagree and the former rep who remarked that McCarthy was interested only in power was on the money.

McCarthy only has power if he's in office, and is the Speaker.

If he goes against Trump, he gets primaried.

If the Republicans in the House go against Trump (such as Liz), they get primaried, and it hurts them in the general election, and Kevin doesn't get the Speaker's gavel.

If somebody like Liz breaks off even a single digit percentage of House Republicans from supporting Trump, they could get primaried by Trump and Co., and Kevin doesn't get the Speaker's gavel.  He had to rein her in by yanking her position as an example to other Rs.

This is not much different than anything Newt did in the 90s.

Are there Republicans in Congress who don't care about the Constitution and would go down that fascist road in a heartbeat? Absolutely, and they do nothing to hide it, outside of dressing it up ("we're just trying to ensure that the elections are fair and secure!").

But most in Congress just want to win their next reelection (or election if they are running for something else) and keep their BMDs happy.

A whole lot more Republicans are pretending to care about Trump than you think, and just biding their time until he goes away. Look at the fake praise heaped on Nailin' Palin.

[atomheartbevo 89579]

A lot of people do not realize that Trump really doesn't give a shit about the GOP.  It's a means to an end for him.  He was a Democrat when it benefitted his businesses in NY, FL, etc., and he switched when it benefitted him.  And don't think for one instant that many Republicans in Congress don't feel the same way about Trump - they tolerate him because of his base.

Trump is a helluva nuisance to a lot of Republicans in Congress, simply because he's upending their established practices with donations, BMDs, etc. and trying to stick his preferred candidates and people in where the establishment Republicans don't want them.  He wants his people running the RNC and the GOP, and running the financial side. 

Most importantly, Trump is trying to directly siphon money away from the GOP through his PACs.  A lot of people don't realize how much of a threat Trump's actions to siphon that money off is to down-ballot Republicans.

Trump wants that money, and gives no shits if that hurts Republicans.

Hell, I'd argue that it's in his nature to try and take over the GOP and strip it clean.

[Mrs Whiggins 13049]

5 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

McCarthy only has power if he's in office, and is the Speaker.

If he goes against Trump, he gets primaried.

If the Republicans in the House go against Trump (such as Liz), they get primaried, and it hurts them in the general election, and Kevin doesn't get the Speaker's gavel.

If somebody like Liz breaks off even a single digit percentage of House Republicans from supporting Trump, they could get primaried by Trump and Co., and Kevin doesn't get the Speaker's gavel.  He had to rein her in by yanking her position as an example to other Rs.

This is not much different than anything Newt did in the 90s.

Are there Republicans in Congress who don't care about the Constitution and would go down that fascist road in a heartbeat? Absolutely, and they do nothing to hide it, outside of dressing it up ("we're just trying to ensure that the elections are fair and secure!").

But most in Congress just want to win their next reelection (or election if they are running for something else) and keep their BMDs happy.

A whole lot more Republicans are pretending to care about Trump than you think, and just biding their time until he goes away. Look at the fake praise heaped on Nailin' Palin.

My husband is a big believer in prepare for the worst and hope for the best so that's where my perspective and foundation derive because it's worked out well for us.

It may be that Trump's greed and control will end up harming more than helping. But then I remember that the corporations that said they would stop donating have been seeking under the table ways to keep donating and that dark money flows like the Styx.

[atomheartbevo 89579]

18 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

My husband is a big believer in prepare for the worst and hope for the best so that's where my perspective and foundation derive because it's worked out well for us.

It may be that Trump's greed and control will end up harming more than helping. But then I remember that the corporations that said they would stop donating have been seeking under the table ways to keep donating and that dark money flows like the Styx.

Trump is lazy and wants money.  The easiest way to exert any power is to simply threaten to primary anybody who crosses him.  

The easiest way for him to bring in money is not campaigning and rallies (which cost him money up front, such as fixing his jet and traveling), but to let his PACs handle it and to siphon it from the GOP/RNC.

Edited May 13, 2021 by atomheartbevo

[Biff Tannen 45639]

3 hours ago, Js1 said:

Next he’ll threaten her with a whuppin 

 

What.  The.  Fuck.

[Hookah Horns 3083]

25 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

A lot of people do not realize that Trump really doesn't give a shit about the GOP.  It's a means to an end for him.  He was a Democrat when it benefitted his businesses in NY, FL, etc., and he switched when it benefitted him.  And don't think for one instant that many Republicans in Congress don't feel the same way about Trump - they tolerate him because of his base.

Trump is a helluva nuisance to a lot of Republicans in Congress, simply because he's upending their established practices with donations, BMDs, etc. and trying to stick his preferred candidates and people in where the establishment Republicans don't want them.  He wants his people running the RNC and the GOP, and running the financial side. 

Most importantly, Trump is trying to directly siphon money away from the GOP through his PACs.  A lot of people don't realize how much of a threat Trump's actions to siphon that money off is to down-ballot Republicans.

Trump wants that money, and gives no shits if that hurts Republicans.

Hell, I'd argue that it's in his nature to try and take over the GOP and strip it clean.

I thought pretty much everyone knew this. 

[Mrs Whiggins 13049]

7 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

 

Someone on Twitter is helping out with the video so Rep Clyde can be educmacated about the difference between tourism and insurrection:

 

[Hookah Horns 3083]

22 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Trump is lazy and wants money.  The easiest way to exert any power is to simply threaten to primary anybody who crosses him.  

The easiest way for him to bring in money is not campaigning and rallies (which cost him money up front, such as fixing his jet and traveling), but to let his PACs handle it and to siphon it from the GOP/RNC.

Are you saying that you don't think he runs in 24?  

I think he'd make more money by running again. And while he's lazy when it comes to actual work, that doesn't apply to rallies, which he loves doing more than anything in the world. 

I think he runs because he hates losing and being seen as a loser. This is a guy who cheated in a meaningless online poll of top business people. 

[atomheartbevo 89579]

8 minutes ago, Hookah Horns said:

I thought pretty much everyone knew this. 

Here in CR, sure.

But, I'd wager a lot of Trump supporters think he somehow cares about them.

And those same Trump supporters probably think that a lot of Republicans in Congress care about Trump as well.

They don't understand the fear, and they don't understand that money they send to Trump is money those other Republicans feel should be going to them.

[Mrs Whiggins 13049]

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[Hookah Horns 3083]

7 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

 

I don't understand the objective of blatantly lying like this. I guess it's either simply to gaslight us, or this guy has really deluded himself into believing what he's saying is true. 

[Hookah Horns 3083]

4 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Here in CR, sure.

But, I'd wager a lot of Trump supporters think he somehow cares about them.

And those same Trump supporters probably think that a lot of Republicans in Congress care about Trump as well.

They don't understand the fear, and they don't understand that money they send to Trump is money those other Republicans feel should be going to them.

Oh well yeah. I should have said "almost everyone who's not a trumpist."

[atomheartbevo 89579]

3 minutes ago, Hookah Horns said:

Are you saying that you don't think he runs in 24?  

I think he'd make more money by running again. And while he's lazy when it comes to actual work, that doesn't apply to rallies, which he loves doing more than anything in the world. 

I think he runs because he hates losing and being seen as a loser. This is a guy who cheated in a meaningless online poll of top business people. 

I don't think he runs in '24.

He can make plenty of money without leaving Mar-a-Lago.

And speaking of being seen as a loser, does he really want to run the risk of losing again? What would that do for his image to lose twice in a row?  This isn't some bankrupt casino or business that gets swept under the rug, it would be losing on the national stage a second time.  People would stop donating.