The GQP: Trumpist Death Cult

[Beau Vine 55,867]

So basically all of the counties in Oregon that no one lives in want to become part of Idaho?

Also, what's with that map?  I don't see any of the Southern Oregon counties mentioned in the article, but they're on the map as going to Idaho?

@MC Fresh Breath

[MC Fresh Breath 4,075]

Ummm, sorry, I straight up have no idea about any of that.  

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Grant voted 1,471 to 895

Lake voted 1,341 to 463 f

Malheur voted 3,050 to 2,572 

Sherman voted 429 to 260 

Baker voted 3,064 to 2,307 

 

That is not a lot of people.  Pretty sure they wouldn't be missed.  So, looked at the Oregon subreddit, and I'll cherry pick a few quotes for your entertainment:

 

"Imagine thinking Idaho is the solution to all your problems."

"Fuck this, it’s Oregon, if you want to live in that shithole Idaho, move there"

"If it happens (it won't) Idaho should have to renamed North Mississippi it will be just as poor."

"Lol. Enjoy the $7.25 minimum wage and no legal weed."

"It's hilarious there's actually a group of people who are so vocal about wanting to live in the white militia potato state, but just not bad enough to actually pack up and move there."

"The people voting for this are the same people who tell others to leave when they don't agree with how things are run. Yet they themselves won't just leave. They insist on taking the land with them lol."

"That's one hell of a land grab they want. It's disgusting how much of Oregon they want to steal from Oregonians who disagree with them."

 

[Biff Tannen 46,168]

2 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

 

Moar of this is needed.  Every day.  All day.

[atomheartbevo 90,650]

3 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

So are the Republicans done backing the boys in blue?

[Biff Tannen 46,168]

1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

So are the Republicans done backing the boys in blue?

They never really did.  It's all performance art.

[MC Fresh Breath 4,075]

On 5/12/2021 at 12:04 PM, MC Fresh Breath said:

 

Yeah.  I posted about it happening in my town last week.

 

https://www.surlyhorns.com/board/index.php?/topic/4800-the-gqp-trumpist-death-cult/page/236/&tab=comments#comment-3264554

Well, breathe a sigh of relief for me, friends.  If results hold, all four nut jobs soundly lost.

[WhatTheBuck 28,930]

1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

So are the Republicans done backing the boys in blue?

  Not when they’re killing unarmed black or brown people.

[Mrs Whiggins 13,050]

11 hours ago, MC Fresh Breath said:

Ummm, sorry, I straight up have no idea about any of that.  

That is not a lot of people.  Pretty sure they wouldn't be missed. 

 

At first I didn't believe it. Apparently it's something that has been around in their history for awhile going back to the seventies and anti-government groups that have a foothold in the area. Comments like this didn't help:

 

[Mrs Whiggins 13,050]

Something else; I would place in the Abbott thread, but it has become more common across states with Republican majorities:

Also; note that the state of Texas executed a man the same day that the governor restricted reproductive rights.

[Mrs Whiggins 13,050]

 

[MC Fresh Breath 4,075]

24 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

At first I didn't believe it. Apparently it's something that has been around in their history for awhile going back to the seventies and anti-government groups that have a foothold in the area. Comments like this didn't help:

 

I would take it even less seriously than   Texas secession talk.   Small amount of rubes who get an oversized amount of pub it seems.

[Mrs Whiggins 13,050]

Just now, MC Fresh Breath said:

I would take it even less seriously than   Texas secession talk.   Small amount of rubes who get an oversized amount of pub it seems.

I do now that I looked around a bit. If you live in the area, it bears watching for the simple reason that bad actors, some foreign,  push disinfo to sow discord and with social media these events are increasing and have more traction. It can lead to the discontent that breeds violence. Something with which the PNW is sadly too familiar.

[MC Fresh Breath 4,075]

10 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

I do now that I looked around a bit. If you live in the area, it bears watching for the simple reason that bad actors, some foreign,  push disinfo to sow discord and with social media these events are increasing and have more traction. It can lead to the discontent that breeds violence. Something with which the PNW is sadly too familiar.

I  overall agree with you. Although I do not share the same concerns about foreign actors.  I don’t have much faith in National politics (I might be the lefty version of Anastasis) but local is another story.

Your points are why the school board thing became a big deal out of nowhere to many of us in Bend.  Luckily, the kooks were defeated this go round.  Eternal vigilance, it seems.

Edited May 20, 2021 by MC Fresh Breath

[Beau Vine 55,867]

13 hours ago, MC Fresh Breath said:

"Fuck this, it’s Oregon, if you want to live in that shithole Idaho, move there"

“See, how it works is, the train moves, not the station.”

[atomheartbevo 90,650]

The GOP are drow, Marjorie Taylor-Greene is one of their matron mothers, and Trump is their Lolth.  
 

@RDCanecutter is probably the only one that will get that.  

[RDCanecutter 26,893]

1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

The GOP are drow, Marjorie Taylor-Greene is one of their matron mothers, and Trump is their Lolth.  
 

@RDCanecutter is probably the only one that will get that.  

Some of my best friends are Drow.

[We’reTexas 1,477]

4 hours ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

At first I didn't believe it. Apparently it's something that has been around in their history for awhile going back to the seventies and anti-government groups that have a foothold in the area. Comments like this didn't help:

 

Look up the proposed state of Jefferson. That area of the country is...something. I was driving through Klamath and saw a Trump 2024 sign...in October. I couldn’t decide if he was really optimistic or pessimistic. 

[Aqua Buddha 14,806]

4 hours ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

At first I didn't believe it. Apparently it's something that has been around in their history for awhile going back to the seventies and anti-government groups that have a foothold in the area. Comments like this didn't help:

 

What is stopping this from happening and the new state of Portlandia freeing themselves from a bunch of fringe groups?

[hayden_horn 11,402]

3 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

The GOP are drow, Marjorie Taylor-Greene is one of their matron mothers, and Trump is their Lolth.  
 

@RDCanecutter is probably the only one that will get that.  

definitely not the only one. lpos rep fpr you

[Ojo Rojo 2,054]

Have we just evolved as a democracy to this point where winning is the only purpose of politics?  Is that the fate of all democracies?  Or is this not evolution, but just a moment in time, which will pass?

What it looks like to me is that the tail is now wagging the dog.  Politics, which is a feature of democracy, is now the entire thing.  Democracy in the U.S. doesn't really exist right now.  We have minority rule as the result of some very sophisticated political maneuvering and maybe a bit of luck.  Now, it's just about who can shout the most heinous and stupid things the loudest.  Those are the political winners.  A race to the bottom.  The most callow and gullible citizens are the ones calling the shots. In the private sector, infotainment figures and companies are generating revenue, because they can, by whipping the fools up and growing their numbers. The politicians are doing the absolute bare minimum to keep the country running and intact so they can continue to get whatever it is they are getting.  Normally I would say we need an adverse event to jar the system and bring us together, but we've had that - COVID 19 - and the politicians made sure to politicize even that to keep us apart.  Politically, nationally, things seem pretty bleak.

[Brisketexan 106,899]

1 minute ago, Ojo Rojo said:

Have we just evolved as a democracy to this point where winning is the only purpose of politics?  Is that the fate of all democracies?  Or is this not evolution, but just a moment in time, which will pass?

What it looks like to me is that the tail is now wagging the dog.  Politics, which is a feature of democracy, is now the entire thing.  Democracy in the U.S. doesn't really exist right now.  We have minority rule as the result of some very sophisticated political maneuvering and maybe a bit of luck.  Now, it's just about who can shout the most heinous and stupid things the loudest.  Those are the political winners.  A race to the bottom.  The most callow and gullible citizens are the ones calling the shots. In the private sector, infotainment figures and companies are generating revenue, because they can, by whipping the fools up and growing their numbers. The politicians are doing the absolute bare minimum to keep the country running and intact so they can continue to get whatever it is they are getting.  Normally I would say we need an adverse event to jar the system and bring us together, but we've had that - COVID 19 - and the politicians made sure to politicize even that to keep us apart.  Politically, nationally, things seem pretty bleak.

[Mrs Whiggins 13,050]

1 minute ago, Ojo Rojo said:

Have we just evolved as a democracy to this point where winning is the only purpose of politics?  Is that the fate of all democracies?  Or is this not evolution, but just a moment in time, which will pass?

What it looks like to me is that the tail is now wagging the dog.  Politics, which is a feature of democracy, is now the entire thing.  Democracy in the U.S. doesn't really exist right now.  We have minority rule as the result of some very sophisticated political maneuvering and maybe a bit of luck.  Now, it's just about who can shout the most heinous and stupid things the loudest.  Those are the political winners.  A race to the bottom.  The most callow and gullible citizens are the ones calling the shots. In the private sector, infotainment figures and companies are generating revenue, because they can, by whipping the fools up and growing their numbers. The politicians are doing the absolute bare minimum to keep the country running and intact so they can continue to get whatever it is they are getting.  Normally I would say we need an adverse event to jar the system and bring us together, but we've had that - COVID 19 - and the politicians made sure to politicize even that to keep us apart.  Politically, nationally, things seem pretty bleak.

Have we just evolved as a democracy to this point where winning is the only purpose of politics? Winning as the sole point was what Roger Stone asserted in the documentary regarding the 2001 election with George W. Bush. I would venture to say that the entire party was behind that and has been behind that for quite some time.

However, I was reading an essay recently where the author argued that our entire country has pretty much rewarded sociopathic behavior in a rather ironic trickle down effect. He postulated that the top levels of society (whether corporate or individuals) don't care because it does not pay to care and it costs them nothing not to. The qualities that are rewarded are ruthlessness, greed, and selfishness and predatory in order to maximize profit.

Which is one of the reasons, perhaps, that things have gotten so grim and so violent. Desperation on both ends: the lowest levels seek agency to stem the misery. The highest levels are desperate to retain power and sell the idea that your misery is someone else's fault (but not theirs!).

Physics is going to make a big bang.

[Biff Tannen 46,168]

4 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

“See, how it works is, the train moves, not the station.”

Bravo

[Biff Tannen 46,168]

48 minutes ago, Ojo Rojo said:

Have we just evolved as a democracy to this point where winning is the only purpose of politics?  Is that the fate of all democracies?  Or is this not evolution, but just a moment in time, which will pass?

What it looks like to me is that the tail is now wagging the dog.  Politics, which is a feature of democracy, is now the entire thing.  Democracy in the U.S. doesn't really exist right now.  We have minority rule as the result of some very sophisticated political maneuvering and maybe a bit of luck.  Now, it's just about who can shout the most heinous and stupid things the loudest.  Those are the political winners.  A race to the bottom.  The most callow and gullible citizens are the ones calling the shots. In the private sector, infotainment figures and companies are generating revenue, because they can, by whipping the fools up and growing their numbers. The politicians are doing the absolute bare minimum to keep the country running and intact so they can continue to get whatever it is they are getting.  Normally I would say we need an adverse event to jar the system and bring us together, but we've had that - COVID 19 - and the politicians made sure to politicize even that to keep us apart.  Politically, nationally, things seem pretty bleak.

 

46 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Come join us!

 

[mchookem 16,768]

1 hour ago, Ojo Rojo said:

Have we just evolved as a democracy to this point where winning is the only purpose of politics?  Is that the fate of all democracies?  Or is this not evolution, but just a moment in time, which will pass?

What it looks like to me is that the tail is now wagging the dog.  Politics, which is a feature of democracy, is now the entire thing.  Democracy in the U.S. doesn't really exist right now.  We have minority rule as the result of some very sophisticated political maneuvering and maybe a bit of luck.  Now, it's just about who can shout the most heinous and stupid things the loudest.  Those are the political winners.  A race to the bottom.  The most callow and gullible citizens are the ones calling the shots. In the private sector, infotainment figures and companies are generating revenue, because they can, by whipping the fools up and growing their numbers. The politicians are doing the absolute bare minimum to keep the country running and intact so they can continue to get whatever it is they are getting.  Normally I would say we need an adverse event to jar the system and bring us together, but we've had that - COVID 19 - and the politicians made sure to politicize even that to keep us apart.  Politically, nationally, things seem pretty bleak.

 

[Red Five 41,738]

1 hour ago, Ojo Rojo said:

Normally I would say we need an adverse event to jar the system and bring us together

Even if we had that, an invading force or terrorists or something, one of our two parties would join forces with it to fight the democrats. I mean fight the other party. 

[Red Five 41,738]

dp

Edited May 20, 2021 by Red Five

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

1 hour ago, Ojo Rojo said:

Have we just evolved as a democracy to this point where winning is the only purpose of politics?  Is that the fate of all democracies?

I would argue we haven’t evolved as a democracy because our form of government wasn’t set up as one.  The founders established an aristocracy with some democratic features that aspired to be a democracy.

Historically, conservatives aligned more with the anti-egalitarian aristocracy to preserve the status quo while progressive movements often advocated for more democracy, you know, socialism. 

As aristocracies lose power, they turn to financing fascist movements to dial back the democratic institutions and suppress the progressive movements threatening their power/wealth.  

So, in a sense you are correct but I’d frame it as established power being threatened by democracy. 

[atomheartbevo 90,650]

2 hours ago, Ojo Rojo said:

Have we just evolved as a democracy to this point where winning is the only purpose of politics?  Is that the fate of all democracies?  Or is this not evolution, but just a moment in time, which will pass?

A race to the bottom.  The most callow and gullible citizens are the ones calling the shots. In the private sector, infotainment figures and companies are generating revenue, because they can, by whipping the fools up and growing their numbers. The politicians are doing the absolute bare minimum to keep the country running and intact so they can continue to get whatever it is they are getting.  

We made a family millionaires/billionaires, whose members were known for defending and/or fucking O.J. Simpson, and whose patriarch was a famous Olympic gold medallist, who then transitioned to being a woman and is running for Governor of California (NTTIAWWT).  Their fame came through the top-rated reality TV series, and they used their antics and TV series to hawk shit and make them rich.

And now YouTube and Instagram has hundreds of imitators following suit and becoming millionaires, all for fucking vlogging their vapid existences

Trump and Co. are completely on brand.

 

[Js1 87,183]

56 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Even if we had that, an invading force or terrorists or something, one of our two parties would join forces with it to fight the democrats. I mean fight the other party. 

We just had a global pandemic that killed almost 600k Americans (200 9/11s) and one party was actively trying to get more killed. 

Nothing will bring the GQP back to America. 

[Walden Ponderer 12,639]

26 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

I would argue we haven’t evolved as a democracy because our form of government wasn’t set up as one.  The founders established an aristocracy with some democratic features that aspired to be a democracy.

Historically, conservatives aligned more with the anti-egalitarian aristocracy to preserve the status quo while progressive movements often advocated for more democracy, you know, socialism. 

As aristocracies lose power, they turn to financing fascist movements to dial back the democratic institutions and suppress the progressive movements threatening their power/wealth.  

So, in a sense you are correct but I’d frame it as established power being threatened by democracy. 

All of this. There's a reason Bernie Sanders, who is just about as middle-of-the-road for the rest of the world as they could possibly come (boringly moderate, in fact) is seen as a wild-eyed radical in this country. It's because we have never actually been a democracy; we're an oligarchy with democratic dressing.

That doesn't make the fascists any less scary, but it does keep things in the proper perspective. "Established power being threatened by democracy." Yep, that's exactly what we're looking at.

[formermav43 4,630]

3 hours ago, Ojo Rojo said:

Have we just evolved as a democracy to this point where winning is the only purpose of politics?

Was there ever any other purpose?

[Biff Tannen 46,168]

51 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

We made a family millionaires/billionaires, whose members were known for defending and/or fucking O.J. Simpson, and whose patriarch was a famous Olympic gold medallist, who then transitioned to being a woman and is running for Governor of California (NTTIAWWT).  Their fame came through the top-rated reality TV series, and they used their antics and TV series to hawk shit and make them rich.

And now YouTube and Instagram has hundreds of imitators following suit and becoming millionaires, all for fucking vlogging their vapid existences

Trump and Co. are completely on brand.

 

Yep.  We are stupid stupid animals.  

[Biff Tannen 46,168]

49 minutes ago, Js1 said:

We just had a global pandemic that killed almost 600k Americans (200 9/11s) and one party was  is actively trying to get more killed. 

Nothing will bring the GQP back to America. 

fixed

[Hookah Horns 3,089]

3 hours ago, Ojo Rojo said:

Have we just evolved as a democracy to this point where winning is the only purpose of politics?  Is that the fate of all democracies?  Or is this not evolution, but just a moment in time, which will pass?

What it looks like to me is that the tail is now wagging the dog.  Politics, which is a feature of democracy, is now the entire thing.  Democracy in the U.S. doesn't really exist right now.  We have minority rule as the result of some very sophisticated political maneuvering and maybe a bit of luck.  Now, it's just about who can shout the most heinous and stupid things the loudest.  Those are the political winners.  A race to the bottom.  The most callow and gullible citizens are the ones calling the shots. In the private sector, infotainment figures and companies are generating revenue, because they can, by whipping the fools up and growing their numbers. The politicians are doing the absolute bare minimum to keep the country running and intact so they can continue to get whatever it is they are getting.  Normally I would say we need an adverse event to jar the system and bring us together, but we've had that - COVID 19 - and the politicians made sure to politicize even that to keep us apart.  Politically, nationally, things seem pretty bleak.

It may be the inevitable fate of democracies rife with ignorance, disinformation, and anti-intellectalism.

[David Dennison 19,542]

1 hour ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

I would argue we haven’t evolved as a democracy because our form of government wasn’t set up as one.  The founders established an aristocracy with some democratic features that aspired to be a democracy.

Historically, conservatives aligned more with the anti-egalitarian aristocracy to preserve the status quo while progressive movements often advocated for more democracy, you know, socialism. 

As aristocracies lose power, they turn to financing fascist movements to dial back the democratic institutions and suppress the progressive movements threatening their power/wealth.  

So, in a sense you are correct but I’d frame it as established power being threatened by democracy. 

Democracy threatens capitalism. That is why the Republican Party is anti-democracy.

[Hookah Horns 3,089]

1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

We made a family millionaires/billionaires, whose members were known for defending and/or fucking O.J. Simpson, and whose patriarch was a famous Olympic gold medallist, who then transitioned to being a woman and is running for Governor of California (NTTIAWWT).  Their fame came through the top-rated reality TV series, and they used their antics and TV series to hawk shit and make them rich.

And now YouTube and Instagram has hundreds of imitators following suit and becoming millionaires, all for fucking vlogging their vapid existences

Trump and Co. are completely on brand.

 

I just recently learned that some clown known as pewdiepie became a multi-millionaire via people watching him play videogames on YouTube. This discovery short circuited my brain. I didn't even know watching someone else play videogames was a thing. I still don't understand how or why it is. 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

2 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Democracy threatens capitalism.

Debatable, democracy threatens the destructive monopolistic power inherent in “free market” capitalism. 

Say we took a vote to legalize cannabis nationwide, and it passed, would it threaten or enhance capitalism?  One could argue it enhances capitalism because you’re creating new domestic markets for consumers while generating tax revenue to fund things like infrastructure, public education, and healthcare which also enhance capitalism. Who doesn’t want a well-educated healthy mobile workforce? 

[atomheartbevo 90,650]

11 minutes ago, Hookah Horns said:

I just recently learned that some clown known as pewdiepie became a multi-millionaire via people watching him play videogames on YouTube. This discovery short circuited my brain. I didn't even know watching someone else play videogames was a thing. I still don't understand how or why it is. 

You probably shouldn't look into the Ryan kid, who makes tens of millions opening up fucking toys on camera.

[Walden Ponderer 12,639]

6 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Who doesn’t want a well-educated healthy mobile workforce? 

[956 Worldwide 35,594]

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Karl Marx is surely smiling down on this child going absolutely apeshit over a racing game’s demo screen! 

Despite lacking the two tokens required to play Hotshot Racing at his local arcade, this wild-haired, blue-mouthed little boy in a sleeveless Rey Mysterio tee is slamming the game’s gas pedal, maniacally yanking the steering wheel, and all-around having a fucking blast in bold defiance of the capitalist machinations that treat joy as a commodity that must be purchased. Using just the sheer power of his imagination and the bag of Sour Patch Kids in the racing chair’s cup holder, this young radical—who is loudly smacking the game’s NITRO SPEED button even though it has no effect whatsoever on the screen in front of him—is adamantly refusing to buy into the rigged economic structures that have for centuries rewarded the privileged through punishing the poor.

Smash Capitalism!

[Hookah Horns 3,089]

52 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

You probably shouldn't look into the Ryan kid, who makes tens of millions opening up fucking toys on camera.

[WhatTheBuck 28,930]

2 hours ago, Js1 said:

Nothing will bring the GQP back to America. 

Not voting for them would. Hillary winning in 2016 would have been the best thing that could’ve happened to them. Deprive them of power for long enough and it would force them to change. The party is broken and you can’t fix it by voting for them.

It may be too late but I guess I’m just a cockeyed optimist and I’d like to believe there’s still a chance. 

[Mole 4,339]

23 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

I wish this were even the tiniest bit surprising:

 

Mark him down as definitely not his brother’s keeper.

[Queen Bitch 1,692]

David Simon dunks on aggy

[TwiceHorn 32,079]

On 5/17/2021 at 8:13 PM, Dr. Teeth said:

Commander Cotton is going to end the free press when he has the chance. Same day all alt right Twitter feeds were complaining about Prince Harry and the first amendment, this gets the thumbs up. 
 

 

 

He's such a flapping gaping cunt.

[NWBuck 8,629]

3 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

I would argue we haven’t evolved as a democracy because our form of government wasn’t set up as one.  The founders established an aristocracy with some democratic features that aspired to be a democracy.

Historically, conservatives aligned more with the anti-egalitarian aristocracy to preserve the status quo while progressive movements often advocated for more democracy, you know, socialism. 

As aristocracies lose power, they turn to financing fascist movements to dial back the democratic institutions and suppress the progressive movements threatening their power/wealth.  

So, in a sense you are correct but I’d frame it as established power being threatened by democracy. 

I absolutely read that in Dennis' voice:

(and what I wouldn't give for a strange woman lying in ponds distributing swords right about now)

[Guest Lobo]

Wow Louie, the honors program at Texas A&M University?  In the 1970's?  My god, the pinnacle of enlightenment, no?  

Tell us, Louie.......what was it like?  Just glorious, I bet!  

Serious question, does A&M even have an honors program?  Or is that like the VIP room at a Golden Corral?  

[Longhorn_Fan68 34,106]

1 minute ago, TwiceHorn said:

He's such a flapping gaping cunt.

[Gatorubet 30,720]

Even if we had that, an invading force or terrorists or something, one of our two parties would join forces with it to fight the democrats. I mean fight the other party. 

They have to be nervous in Grenada