The GQP: Trumpist Death Cult

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7 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

That’s quite a fall from mtv 

She's no Martha Quinn, that's for sure.

[Brisketexan 104537]

7 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

 

 

All the quiet parts, out loud.

They want to eliminate ALL public education.  All schools will be evangelical Christian indoctrination centers.  Can't afford it?  Then "home school" (which for a giant chunk of America with working/absent parents, will mean no school at all).  They want a society with two classes: 1) evangelical overlords, 2) uneducated serfs.

[Paul Wesley 3277]

It's just bonkers that only one of the hosts had some kind of clarification question, and the others just nodded along with "we shouldn't have schools."

[Beau Vine 53978]

 

[Fudge Nuggets 19144]

Susan Collins should eat shit.

Edited April 27, 2022 by Fudge Nuggets

[Biff Tannen 45491]

1 hour ago, Beau Vine said:

 

[Brisketexan 104537]

Susan Collins should eat shit.

There’s not a single thing about her that I don’t hate.

[Fudge Nuggets 19144]

9 hours ago, crash_davis said:

how much free time do you have? it's the fucking party of pedophiles and closet homosexuals. keep in mind this is part 30. there are 29 other pages of deviant history.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/4/6/2090446/-Republican-Sexual-Predators-Abusers-and-Enablers-Pt-30

Why does everything have to be about kiddie diddlin', cock and buttfucking with these perverts?

[Neonmoon 38127]

Susan Collins death will be a nice celebration 

and if you’re thinking of clutching your pearls,I don’t give a fuck. When bad people die, it makes the world a better place. 

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28 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

Susan Collins death will be a nice celebration 

and if you’re thinking of clutching your pearls,I don’t give a fuck. When bad people die, it makes the world a better place. 

If the country is lucky, it’s tonight 

[Biff Tannen 45491]

1 hour ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Why does everything have to be about kiddie diddlin', cock and buttfucking with these perverts?

You know the answer to this question.

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On 4/24/2022 at 3:08 PM, Sawbonz said:

 

 

hopefully someone kicked rick schoerder in the nuts

[WhatTheBuck 28703]

59 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

hopefully someone kicked rick schoerder in the nuts

That takes some serious aim.

[WhatTheBuck 28703]

Josh Mandel, candidate for Senator from Ohio, endorsed by Ted Cruz, has changed his slogan. It used to be: “Pro-GOD, Pro-GUN, Pro-TRUMP.”

Now it’s: “Pro-GOD, Pro-TRUMP, Pro-LIFE”

His campaign ads now also claim that Black Lives Matter are the racists. 

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Kristina Karamo, the Republican-endorsed candidate for Michigan secretary of state, was previously a podcast host who claimed that certain celebrities are tools of Satan. Karamo suggested that a “super crafty” Satan is behind Beyoncé pulling “Black Americans into paganism,” called Cardi B a “tool of Lucifer because she peddles filth in the culture,” and said that people practicing yoga are doing “a demonic ceremony.”

Their candidates are getting worse.

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[High Plains Drifter 10970]

2 hours ago, pacman said:

Kristina Karamo, the Republican-endorsed candidate for Michigan secretary of state, was previously a podcast host who claimed that certain celebrities are tools of Satan. Karamo suggested that a “super crafty” Satan is behind Beyoncé pulling “Black Americans into paganism,” called Cardi B a “tool of Lucifer because she peddles filth in the culture,” and said that people practicing yoga are doing “a demonic ceremony.”

 

depends on the person doing the yoga and the pants they are wearing, imo.

 

 

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[Beau Vine 53978]

11 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

 

I would bet $1000 that this guy has child porn on his computer.  

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16 hours ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Susan Collins should eat shit.

Yea. The really bad-tasting kind!

[Pancho 44437]

 

[Sbbruin 21704]

After 37 years as a registered Republican (but who did not vote for Trump in '16 or '20- first time ever not voting R), I just re-registered as an independent.  Can no longer have even the loosest affiliation with this madness.

[Neonmoon 38127]

1 minute ago, Sbbruin said:

After 37 years as a registered Republican (but who did not vote for Trump in '16 or '20- first time ever not voting R), I just re-registered as an independent.  Can no longer have even the loosest affiliation with this madness.

[956 Worldwide 34411]

On 4/26/2022 at 6:36 PM, Pato del Muerto said:

That’s quite a fall from mtv 

I just read her wiki entry and she got introduced to libertarianism when Kurt Loder gave her an Ayn Rand book. It’s fucking wild to me that all these VJs on MTV back when it was cool were running Objectivist Society study sessions of set, there is absolutely nothing less rock and roll than that. 

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1 hour ago, Sbbruin said:

After 37 years as a registered Republican (but who did not vote for Trump in '16 or '20- first time ever not voting R), I just re-registered as an independent.  Can no longer have even the loosest affiliation with this madness.

ok groomer

[Beau Vine 53978]

1 hour ago, Pancho said:

 

Ever notice how the people who talk about how much sense they have, don't actually seem to have any sense?

[Goredho 17341]

1 hour ago, Sbbruin said:

After 37 years as a registered Republican (but who did not vote for Trump in '16 or '20- first time ever not voting R), I just re-registered as an independent.  Can no longer have even the loosest affiliation with this madness.

I totally can empathize, but there's a big problem with this.  An R or D is guaranteed to get 42% of the vote no matter what.  If all the sensible people leave the Republican party and it is left to just drift further towards fascism, we will eventually see Trump or worse as President with the GQP holding congress ala 2016 but now with a firm hold on the supreme court.  And when that happens, the madness you thought you left behind in the GQP will be cemented as the law of the land.

There needs to be moderate conservatives in the GOP working to promote sensible alternatives to the madness, or we need moderate conservatives to get serious about forming a center-right splinter party that can pull some of the 42% that are going to always vote R if their only options are R or D.

[Pato del Muerto 52336]

1 minute ago, Goredho said:

I totally can empathize, but there's a big problem with this.  An R or D is guaranteed to get 42% of the vote no matter what.  If all the sensible people leave the Republican party and it is left to just drift further towards fascism, we will eventually see Trump or worse as President with the GQP holding congress ala 2016 but now with a firm hold on the supreme court.  And when that happens, the madness you thought you left behind in the GQP will be cemented as the law of the land.

There needs to be moderate conservatives in the GOP working to promote sensible alternatives to the madness, or we need moderate conservatives to get serious about forming a center-right splinter party that can pull some of the 42% that are going to always vote R if their only options are R or D.

Not sure what they would be called, but their party mascot animal has to be the rhinoceros doesn’t it?

[Goredho 17341]

Just now, Pato del Muerto said:

Not sure what they would be called, but their party mascot animal has to be the rhinoceros doesn’t it?

We have our first chairman of the party!

[Paul Wesley 3277]

36 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

there is absolutely nothing less rock and roll than that. 

I don’t know… Did you see the videos from that recent Kid Rock concert where Trump (in full orangeface) appears on a giant video screen right before the show and tells the crowd that they are the God-fearing backbone of America?

That might be less rock and roll. 

[Gil Bang 25894]

1 hour ago, Sbbruin said:

After 37 years as a registered Republican (but who did not vote for Trump in '16 or '20- first time ever not voting R), I just re-registered as an independent.  Can no longer have even the loosest affiliation with this madness.

If more registered Rs did this, they might start to notice.  

Who's your congressman, Chu? 

[Brisketexan 104537]

1 hour ago, Sbbruin said:

After 37 years as a registered Republican (but who did not vote for Trump in '16 or '20- first time ever not voting R), I just re-registered as an independent.  Can no longer have even the loosest affiliation with this madness.

 

26 minutes ago, Goredho said:

I totally can empathize, but there's a big problem with this.  An R or D is guaranteed to get 42% of the vote no matter what.  If all the sensible people leave the Republican party and it is left to just drift further towards fascism, we will eventually see Trump or worse as President with the GQP holding congress ala 2016 but now with a firm hold on the supreme court.  And when that happens, the madness you thought you left behind in the GQP will be cemented as the law of the land.

There needs to be moderate conservatives in the GOP working to promote sensible alternatives to the madness, or we need moderate conservatives to get serious about forming a center-right splinter party that can pull some of the 42% that are going to always vote R if their only options are R or D.

I'll take the little steps first.  What Sbbruin did is a very important start.  America has to first turn away from fascist authoritarianism.  THEN, individuals can figure out how best to fight against it.

It's kind of like "first, do no harm."  You do that by no longer voting for GQP candidates.

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1 hour ago, Goredho said:

I totally can empathize, but there's a big problem with this.  An R or D is guaranteed to get 42% of the vote no matter what.  If all the sensible people leave the Republican party and it is left to just drift further towards fascism, we will eventually see Trump or worse as President with the GQP holding congress ala 2016 but now with a firm hold on the supreme court.  And when that happens, the madness you thought you left behind in the GQP will be cemented as the law of the land.

There needs to be moderate conservatives in the GOP working to promote sensible alternatives to the madness, or we need moderate conservatives to get serious about forming a center-right splinter party that can pull some of the 42% that are going to always vote R if their only options are R or D.

The two party system sucks asshole and we've been destined for this result for years and years.

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https://twitter.com/jasonselvig/status/1519045888039178244

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23 minutes ago, Smax said:

https://twitter.com/jasonselvig/status/1519045888039178244

Isn't James Woods a Trumper?

[Satchel 6908]

Sobering take from the arch conservative Michael Luttig:

https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/27/opinions/gop-blueprint-to-steal-the-2024-election-luttig/index.html

Trump's and the Republicans' far more ambitious objective is to execute successfully in 2024 the very same plan they failed in executing in 2020 and to overturn the 2024 election if Trump or his anointed successor loses again in the next quadrennial contest. 

 

The last presidential election was a dry run for the next. 
 

From long before Election Day 2020, Trump and Republicans planned to overturn the presidential election by exploiting the Electors and Elections Clauses of the Constitution, the Electoral College, the Electoral Count Act of 1877, and the 12th Amendment, if Trump lost the popular and Electoral College vote. 

 

The cornerstone of the plan was to have the Supreme Court embrace the little known "independent state legislature" doctrine, which, in turn, would pave the way for exploitation of the Electoral College process and the Electoral Count Act, and finally for Vice President Mike Pence to reject enough swing state electoral votes to overturn the election using Pence's ceremonial power under the 12th Amendment and award the presidency to Donald Trump.

 

The independent state legislature doctrine says that, under the Elections and the Electors Clauses of the Constitution, state legislatures possess plenary and exclusive power over the conduct of federal presidential elections and the selection of state presidential electors. Not even a state supreme court, let alone other state elections officials, can alter the legislatively written election rules or interfere with the appointment of state electors by the legislatures, under this theory…

 

…The Supreme Court has never decided whether to embrace the independent state legislature doctrine. But then-Chief Justice William Rehnquist, and Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas in separate concurring opinions said they would embrace that doctrine in Bush v. Gore, 20 years earlier, and Republicans had every reason to believe there were at least five votes on the Supreme Court for the doctrine in November 2020, with Amy Coney Barrett having just been confirmed in the eleventh hour before the election…

 

…Thwarted by the Supreme Court's indecision on that doctrine, Trump and the Republicans turned their efforts to the second stage of their plan, exploitation of the Electoral College and the Electoral Count Act…

 

…The Electoral College is the process by which Americans choose their presidents, a process that can lead to the election as president of a candidate who does not receive a majority of votes cast by the American voters. Republicans have grown increasingly wary of the Electoral College with the new census and political demographics of the nation's shifting population.

[Goredho 17341]

58 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

 

I'll take the little steps first.  What Sbbruin did is a very important start.  America has to first turn away from fascist authoritarianism.  THEN, individuals can figure out how best to fight against it.

It's kind of like "first, do no harm."  You do that by no longer voting for GQP candidates.

I get what you are saying, and it is a stance that I have taken in the recent past, but the quickest way for America to turn away from fascist authoritarianism is to convince one of its two viable parties to abandon fascist authoritarianism.  There are two levers by which a voter can do that -- the first is to penalize their fascist candidates with oppositional votes and the second is to reward any moderate candidates with pro-votes so that they are in place to work to reform the party.  I realize the latter are harder and harder to come by, but leaving the Republican party to where it is only populated with fascists really only makes it more likely that fascism becomes permanently affixed in this country.

The only other likely-to-work-but-longer-to-realize alternative is to build a center-right party of moderate conservatism that will give voters a different choice than simply Liberal or Fascist.

[Pato del Muerto 52336]

6 minutes ago, Satchel said:

Sobering take from the arch conservative Michael Luttig:

https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/27/opinions/gop-blueprint-to-steal-the-2024-election-luttig/index.html

Trump's and the Republicans' far more ambitious objective is to execute successfully in 2024 the very same plan they failed in executing in 2020 and to overturn the 2024 election if Trump or his anointed successor loses again in the next quadrennial contest. 

 

The last presidential election was a dry run for the next. 
 

From long before Election Day 2020, Trump and Republicans planned to overturn the presidential election by exploiting the Electors and Elections Clauses of the Constitution, the Electoral College, the Electoral Count Act of 1877, and the 12th Amendment, if Trump lost the popular and Electoral College vote. 

 

The cornerstone of the plan was to have the Supreme Court embrace the little known "independent state legislature" doctrine, which, in turn, would pave the way for exploitation of the Electoral College process and the Electoral Count Act, and finally for Vice President Mike Pence to reject enough swing state electoral votes to overturn the election using Pence's ceremonial power under the 12th Amendment and award the presidency to Donald Trump.

 

The independent state legislature doctrine says that, under the Elections and the Electors Clauses of the Constitution, state legislatures possess plenary and exclusive power over the conduct of federal presidential elections and the selection of state presidential electors. Not even a state supreme court, let alone other state elections officials, can alter the legislatively written election rules or interfere with the appointment of state electors by the legislatures, under this theory…

 

…The Supreme Court has never decided whether to embrace the independent state legislature doctrine. But then-Chief Justice William Rehnquist, and Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas in separate concurring opinions said they would embrace that doctrine in Bush v. Gore, 20 years earlier, and Republicans had every reason to believe there were at least five votes on the Supreme Court for the doctrine in November 2020, with Amy Coney Barrett having just been confirmed in the eleventh hour before the election…

 

…Thwarted by the Supreme Court's indecision on that doctrine, Trump and the Republicans turned their efforts to the second stage of their plan, exploitation of the Electoral College and the Electoral Count Act…

 

…The Electoral College is the process by which Americans choose their presidents, a process that can lead to the election as president of a candidate who does not receive a majority of votes cast by the American voters. Republicans have grown increasingly wary of the Electoral College with the new census and political demographics of the nation's shifting population.

This was authored by @Brisketexanright?

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3 minutes ago, Satchel said:

Sobering take from the arch conservative Michael Luttig:

https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/27/opinions/gop-blueprint-to-steal-the-2024-election-luttig/index.html

Trump's and the Republicans' far more ambitious objective is to execute successfully in 2024 the very same plan they failed in executing in 2020 and to overturn the 2024 election if Trump or his anointed successor loses again in the next quadrennial contest. 

 

The last presidential election was a dry run for the next. 
 

From long before Election Day 2020, Trump and Republicans planned to overturn the presidential election by exploiting the Electors and Elections Clauses of the Constitution, the Electoral College, the Electoral Count Act of 1877, and the 12th Amendment, if Trump lost the popular and Electoral College vote. 

 

The cornerstone of the plan was to have the Supreme Court embrace the little known "independent state legislature" doctrine, which, in turn, would pave the way for exploitation of the Electoral College process and the Electoral Count Act, and finally for Vice President Mike Pence to reject enough swing state electoral votes to overturn the election using Pence's ceremonial power under the 12th Amendment and award the presidency to Donald Trump.

 

The independent state legislature doctrine says that, under the Elections and the Electors Clauses of the Constitution, state legislatures possess plenary and exclusive power over the conduct of federal presidential elections and the selection of state presidential electors. Not even a state supreme court, let alone other state elections officials, can alter the legislatively written election rules or interfere with the appointment of state electors by the legislatures, under this theory…

 

…The Supreme Court has never decided whether to embrace the independent state legislature doctrine. But then-Chief Justice William Rehnquist, and Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas in separate concurring opinions said they would embrace that doctrine in Bush v. Gore, 20 years earlier, and Republicans had every reason to believe there were at least five votes on the Supreme Court for the doctrine in November 2020, with Amy Coney Barrett having just been confirmed in the eleventh hour before the election…

 

…Thwarted by the Supreme Court's indecision on that doctrine, Trump and the Republicans turned their efforts to the second stage of their plan, exploitation of the Electoral College and the Electoral Count Act…

 

…The Electoral College is the process by which Americans choose their presidents, a process that can lead to the election as president of a candidate who does not receive a majority of votes cast by the American voters. Republicans have grown increasingly wary of the Electoral College with the new census and political demographics of the nation's shifting population.

The party that has lost the popular vote in 7 outta the 8 last presidential elections is now wary of the institution that has disproportionately benefited them. 

[Beau Vine 53978]

11 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Republicans have grown increasingly wary of the Electoral College with the new census and political demographics of the nation's shifting population.

Wait, what?

Edited April 27, 2022 by Beau Vine

[Pato del Muerto 52336]

Lol I didn’t read that last part. 
 

but you can’t gerrymander state lines for statewide elections, and if demos are really moving blue for a few battleground states (at some point to include Texas), the available option is to use gerrymandered state leg to mess with the voting process. And outright fraud. 

[Satchel 6908]

2 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Lol I didn’t read that last part. 
 

but you can’t gerrymander state lines for statewide elections, and if demos are really moving blue for a few battleground states (at some point to include Texas), the available option is to use gerrymandered state leg to mess with the voting process. And outright fraud. 

We’re sleep walking, I tell ya.

[Brisketexan 104537]

17 minutes ago, Goredho said:

I get what you are saying, and it is a stance that I have taken in the recent past, but the quickest way for America to turn away from fascist authoritarianism is to convince one of its two viable parties to abandon fascist authoritarianism.  There are two levers by which a voter can do that -- the first is to penalize their fascist candidates with oppositional votes and the second is to reward any moderate candidates with pro-votes so that they are in place to work to reform the party.  I realize the latter are harder and harder to come by, but leaving the Republican party to where it is only populated with fascists really only makes it more likely that fascism becomes permanently affixed in this country.

The only other likely-to-work-but-longer-to-realize alternative is to build a center-right party of moderate conservatism that will give voters a different choice than simply Liberal or Fascist.

You're right.

Also, that path will never happen.  The GQP is too far gone.  There's no pulling it back.  Understand that it is the party of fascist authoritarianism, steeped in insane conspiracy theories and openly antagonistic to any objective truths.  Once you understand that, then the menu of options changes radically.

[Mole 4319]

2 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

I just read her wiki entry and she got introduced to libertarianism when Kurt Loder gave her an Ayn Rand book. It’s fucking wild to me that all these VJs on MTV back when it was cool were running Objectivist Society study sessions of set, there is absolutely nothing less rock and roll than that. 

Too much Rush.

[Brisketexan 104537]

25 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

This was authored by @Brisketexanright?

Could easily have been.

Follow this very plausible scenario with me:

1 -- the majority of votes in all collective congressional races are Democrat.  But, because of gerrymandering of districts done by multiple gerrymandered state legislatures, a majority of the winning House candidates are Republican.  More Americans vote for Dem representatives than Repub representatives, but the Repubs get a majority of representatives because gerrymandering.

2 -- a majority of votes in all collective Senate races are for Democrat candidates.  But due to state-by-state apportionment of Senators, a majority of Senators are Republican (Wyoming gets a shitload more power per senatorial voter than California, for example).

3 -- a majority of Americans vote for a Dem for president.  But, either through the vagaries of the Electoral College and/or planned Republican shenanigans (e.g., the Repub majority legislature of, say, Florida, decides to reject the results of the Florida presidential voting, which the Dem candidate won, and instead decrees that actually, the Legislature declares the Repub candidate the winner of Florida, handing the presidency to the Republicans), the Repub candidate wins the presidency.

A majority of Americans, on a national level, voted for Democratic representation.  But at every single level, the party that got the MINORITY of votes controls.  Oh, and that party isn't going to "control" with a measured hand, saying something like "well, we understand that we're in power due to a variety of circumstances, but the overall will of the voters dictates that we govern in a moderate and prudential way."  No.  Fucking.  Way.  They will shove every extreme right measure you can imagine down our national throat as fast as they can, and when the majority of the public complains because they didn't vote for that, the response will be 'suck it libs, cry more tears!"

If you were to write a recipe for a country that explodes, that would be a pretty rock-solid set of ingredients.  And every one of them is out on our kitchen counter right now, ready to come into play.

Edited April 27, 2022 by Brisketexan

[WhatTheBuck 28703]

2 hours ago, Goredho said:

I totally can empathize, but there's a big problem with this.  An R or D is guaranteed to get 42% of the vote no matter what.  If all the sensible people leave the Republican party and it is left to just drift further towards fascism, we will eventually see Trump or worse as President with the GQP holding congress ala 2016 but now with a firm hold on the supreme court.  And when that happens, the madness you thought you left behind in the GQP will be cemented as the law of the land.

There needs to be moderate conservatives in the GOP working to promote sensible alternatives to the madness, or we need moderate conservatives to get serious about forming a center-right splinter party that can pull some of the 42% that are going to always vote R if their only options are R or D.

The Republican Party is horribly broken. You can’t fix it by voting for them. Keeping moderate voters on their rolls is meaningless when they offer nothing but extremist candidates. 

[Pancho 44437]

So why are racist, radical republicans (RRRs) upset now that Biden is considering cancelling student debt?  Why do those people care about this? 

[Biff Tannen 45491]

3 hours ago, Paul Wesley said:

I don’t know… Did you see the videos from that recent Kid Rock concert where Trump (in full orangeface) appears on a giant video screen right before the show and tells the crowd that they are the God-fearing backbone of America?

That might be less rock and roll. 

Fucking christ, did this really happen?  God-fearing backbone?

[Paul Wesley 3277]

5 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Fucking christ, did this really happen?  God-fearing backbone?

(Edit) Was worse than I remembered.  A rich guy teasing another rich guy about golf.  

Edited April 27, 2022 by Paul Wesley