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31 minutes ago, Mojo Hand said:

It's not really because they can't defend Trump.  It's because they can't handle being powerless in the minority, and they don't see that changing any time soon. 

 

15 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Yup.  Most of them had the majority of their careers in the majority - Conway has been in since 2005 - other than 2007-2011 and 2019 - now, he's been in the majority.  Being in the minority SUCKS.  

Just ask Democratic House members from 2011 to 2019. 

This.  I served in the minority for 4 years.  It was fucking awful.  Most of the these GOP reps grew up in the majority post 2010.  It takes stones to lose every day over and over and over again.  They don't have it and are quitting.

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This is such unbridled horseshit. I live in fucking California, and I'm not sure if I've ever seen a Fuck Trump shirt/flag/bumper sticker/whatever in person. I can't go a day without seeing Let's Go B

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Did not have former Skid Row lead singer Sebastian Bach talking shit to MAGA cult members on my bingo card. But here we are.  

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Yep. I was a George Will/Ronald Reagan/Al Laffer conservative.  I genuinely thought that if you cut taxes for the upper classes, then they would spend and invest and the economic result of that w

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This.  I served in the minority for 4 years.  It was fucking awful.  Most of the these GOP reps grew up in the majority post 2010.  It takes stones to lose every day over and over and over again.  They don't have it and are quitting.

Every day you lose and it's impossible to find a camera and airtime for your agenda. 

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1 hour ago, SuingToGetAMessageBoard? said:

I'd believe that.  I think the house D advantage stays pretty much the same indefinitely going forward, so I can see people looking at being the minority.  I just don't think it has anything to do with Trump like these articles are trying to make out.

For the first time in 3 decades, the Dems are going to have a say in redistricting, the House is likely to get bluer after 2020.  There's a ton of reps in the mid west and NE who will likely be forced to run in entirely new districts and just don't have the energy to do it.  Better to get while the getting is good to K street.

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ActBlue knock-off WinRed is a page torn from Marx!

 

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GOP leaders made creating a partywide small-donor platform a priority after the party’s drubbing in the 2018 election. And Republicans argued that the entire the party would need to coalesce behind it — much as Democrats almost universally use ActBlue.

That posture has inflamed tensions with Paul Dietzel, a Republican digital strategist who oversees a rival payment processor called Anedot, which has been widely used by Republican campaigns and committees in recent years. The RNC sent Dietzel a cease-and-desist letter about a new donation website he created earlier this month, and the committee has said it will withdraw funding for any campaign or organization that uses a non-WinRed platform — including Dietzel’s.

Dietzel has taken an aggressive posture, deriding the national party’s all-hands embrace of WinRed as tantamount to socialism.

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10 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

Did Dotard promise Lindsay a good buggering?

That guy truly is the mascot of that chickenshit organization. If he were in a men's locker room, he'd be whistling Stranger in Paradise.

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On 7/31/2019 at 1:03 PM, Bateshorn said:

For the first time in 3 decades, the Dems are going to have a say in redistricting, the House is likely to get bluer after 2020.  There's a ton of reps in the mid west and NE who will likely be forced to run in entirely new districts and just don't have the energy to do it.  Better to get while the getting is good to K street.

this times 100!

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On 7/31/2019 at 9:22 AM, Js1 said:

Yeah I would 100% believe that was true.  How many times do/did they blame Obama for the 2008 recession? 

Enough times that some believe the recession began in 2008 instead of 2007, which is information that Fox helped spread. 

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1 hour ago, Gil Bang said:

Did Dotard promise Lindsay a good buggering?

So they didn't stop him?  Yeah, that's why he FUCKING DID IT.  If you aren't going to stop them, why wouldn't they ignore all the rules?  Fuck this congress.  You fucking spineless pussies.

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Enough times that some believe the recession began in 2008 instead of 2007, which is information that Fox helped spread. 

Even if the 2008 thing was true, that doesn't explain how Obama could be responsible as his first inauguration was in January of 2009. I don't follow Fox all that closely anymore as they're just 24/7 falderal, but if that's what they're really pushing, they're either A) dumber B) more cynical C) all of the above than I previously understood.

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21 minutes ago, Doc Sam Beckett said:

I honestly don't know, how could they have stopped him? 

Mr. Chairman, do you claim the right to tyranny because you are the willing puppet of a would-be tin-horn dictator? Do you presume to bully this committee by silencing opposition?

Were you ordered to do this by Mitch McConnell to see how far your party can stifle representative government? No, do not interrupt me!  You're a disgrace to this chamber and this country. You know where you can find me, Senator Graham. Call your masters and see what they want you to do.

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Knock his drink over, unplug his mic, take his papers and sabotage the shit out of the setting.

Keep playing by rules that are ignored and this is what happens. The rules are to keep us civilized and blinded by a social contract. When they are ignored the civility is gone and it’s fair game.

I would have had a staffer literally piss on him. Then gave him $1 in public.

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15 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

I truly can't believe what gaping, bleeding vaginas Dems are.  JFC, is there a gonad between all House and Senate Ds put together?

It's not something they do well. Graham gave them a lesson in (faux) outrage during Kavanaugh. Use the precedent.

Point of order! Point of order!

Fuck Robert's Rules of Order. The fascists are coming!

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This bitch should have never been elected, but carpetbagged off of her old man's name.  She's just the worst.

http://nativenewsonline.net/currents/rep-cheney-accuses-tribes-of-destroying-our-western-way-of-life-over-sacred-grizzly-protections/

 

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 On a momentous day for Tribal Nations, Congresswoman Liz Cheney (R-WY), the House Republican Conference Chairwoman, stated that the successful litigation by tribes and environmentalists to return the grizzly bear in Greater Yellowstone to the Endangered Species Act (ESA) “was not based on science or facts” but motivated by plaintiffs “intent on destroying our Western way of life.”

 

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One of the largest tribal-plaintiff alliances in recent memory prevailed in the landmark case, Crow Tribe et al v. Zinke last September, when US District Judge Dana Christensen ruled in favor of the tribes and environmental groups after finding that the Trump Administration’s US Fish and Wildlife Service (USFWS) had failed to abide by the ESA and exceeded its authority in attempting to remove federal protections from the grizzly. Tuesday, USFWS officially returned federal protections to the grizzly.

 

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Removing protections from the bear, revered as sacred to a multitude of tribes, would have left the grizzly vulnerable to high-dollar trophy hunts and lifted leasing restrictions on some 34,375 square miles. Extractive industry, livestock and logging interests are among those desirous of capitalizing on the area, a region comprised of tribal treaty, reserved rights and ceded lands.

 

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“So, in striving to protect our culture, our religious and spiritual freedoms, our sovereignty and our treaty rights – all of which are encapsulated in the grizzly issue – we are ‘destroying’ Cheney’s idea of the ‘Western way of life’?” questioned Rodgers. “I would remind the Congresswoman that at the time of the Lewis and Clark Expedition an estimated 10,000 grizzly bears roamed from the Missouri River to the Pacific Coast. That was all Indian Country. Now there are fewer than 2,000 grizzly bears and our people live in Third World conditions on meager reservations in the poorest counties in the US. Does she really want to talk about ‘destroying’ a ‘way of life’?” asked Rodgers.

“Unfortunately, it comes as no surprise that recent attempts by the Administration to remove protections for the grizzly, as well as blatant disregard for proper Tribal consultation, warrant our attention,” commented Congressman Joe Neguse (D-CO), who chaired the hearing on HR 2532. Rodgers’ written response to a question by Rep. Neguse traces contemporary wildlife management practices employed by the USFWS and the states back to the Doctrine of Discovery. The account, which has been widely praised by organizations including Sierra Club and Earth Justice, is posted in the Congressional Record (https://docs.house.gov/meetings/II/II13/20190515/109483/HHRG-116-II13-20190515-QFR003.pdf).

“That response is vital for our people. I urge everybody to read it. We must be aware of where, why and how the status-quo came to be and understand that these actions consistently undermine tribal sovereignty and disenfranchise our people,” said Lynnette Grey Bull, Senior Vice President of Global Indigenous Council, who also testified at the hearing.

Grey Bull resides on the Wind River Reservation in Wyoming, among Cheney’s constituents. Both the Northern Arapaho Tribe and Eastern Shoshone Tribe passed official resolutions and issued numerous communications opposing the delisting and trophy hunting of the grizzly bear. The Northern Arapaho Business Council was compelled to issue a “Cease and Desist” letter to the Department of Interior “regarding consistent misrepresentations of the Northern Arapaho Tribe’s position on grizzly delisting.”

Cheney contends that, “the ruling that forced today’s action was both needless and harmful to the ecosystem, which is why I introduced legislation earlier this year to reinstate the original, science-based decision by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service to delist the grizzly and prevent future court action on the delisting, returning management of the grizzly back to the state where it belongs.”

Tribal Nations, including the Oglala Sioux Tribe which petitioned for a Congressional inquiry into the influence of multi-national fossil-fuel corporations on FWS’s grizzly delisting decision, previously exposed the role of extractive industry in the process. USFWS engaged multinational oil and gas services group, Amec Foster Wheeler, for the peer review of its grizzly delisting rule that tribes and environmental groups deconstructed in court. Amec Foster Wheeler appointed Halliburton executive Jonathan Lewis as CEO in the same timeframe as USFWS contracted the company.

“That puts ‘harmful to the ecosystem’ into its true context,” responded Rodgers. “The Cheney family’s connections to Halliburton hardly needs elaborating upon,” added Chief Stan Grier, President of the Blackfoot Confederacy Chiefs. Grier and Blackfeet Chairman, Tim Davis, are at the forefront of the effort to stop the grizzly being delisted and trophy hunted in the Glacier National Park region, the heartland of Blackfoot Confederacy territory.

Cheney’s attempt to legislatively “prevent future court action on the delisting” was previously challenged by a coalition of tribes in testimony to the US Senate Environment and Public Works Committee.

“Any attempt . . . to legislatively nullify the Court’s ruling in Crow Tribe et al v. Zinke– to once again strip ESA protections from the grizzly bear – will, in addition to defying the Court, suborn the federal-Indian trust responsibility.  Given that the Constitution states, ‘all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land,’ the rights of Indian tribes cannot be treated as ‘temporary and precarious,’ as would be the case if Crow Tribe et al v. Zinke was legislatively subverted,” submitted the RMTLC, the Great Plains Tribal Chairman’s Association and the Blackfoot Confederacy.

“There’s more chance of her father receiving the Nobel Peace Prize than her Grizzly Bear State Management Act reaching the House floor,” said Rodgers of Cheney’s bill.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

This bitch should have never been elected, but carpetbagged off of her old man's name.  She's just the worst.

http://nativenewsonline.net/currents/rep-cheney-accuses-tribes-of-destroying-our-western-way-of-life-over-sacred-grizzly-protections/

100%.

It's just comic-book level villainy that not a single person would cheer for, even an idiot deplorable, if it were in a movie

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10 hours ago, Brisketexan said:


The future of the GOP is in the White House right now. Trump is the only future the GOP has. The party needs to consider changing its name. “TRUMP” would do.

Now, now, I am sure they can find another Dunning-Kruger poster boy to take his place.

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The future of the GOP is in the White House right now. Trump is the only future the GOP has. The party needs to consider changing its name. “TRUMP” would do.

You underestimate polished fascists like Josh Hawley.  

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15 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

This bitch should have never been elected, but carpetbagged off of her old man's name.  She's just the worst.

http://nativenewsonline.net/currents/rep-cheney-accuses-tribes-of-destroying-our-western-way-of-life-over-sacred-grizzly-protections/

 

 

 

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“So, in striving to protect our culture, our religious and spiritual freedoms, our sovereignty and our treaty rights – all of which are encapsulated in the grizzly issue – we are ‘destroying’ Cheney’s idea of the ‘Western way of life’?” questioned Rodgers. “I would remind the Congresswoman that at the time of the Lewis and Clark Expedition an estimated 10,000 grizzly bears roamed from the Missouri River to the Pacific Coast. That was all Indian Country. Now there are fewer than 2,000 grizzly bears and our people live in Third World conditions on meager reservations in the poorest counties in the US. Does she really want to talk about ‘destroying’ a ‘way of life’?” asked Rodgers.

“Unfortunately, it comes as no surprise that recent attempts by the Administration to remove protections for the grizzly, as well as blatant disregard for proper Tribal consultation, warrant our attention,” commented Congressman Joe Neguse (D-CO), who chaired the hearing on HR 2532. Rodgers’ written response to a question by Rep. Neguse traces contemporary wildlife management practices employed by the USFWS and the states back to the Doctrine of Discovery. The account, which has been widely praised by organizations including Sierra Club and Earth Justice, is posted in the Congressional Record (https://docs.house.gov/meetings/II/II13/20190515/109483/HHRG-116-II13-20190515-QFR003.pdf).

“That response is vital for our people. I urge everybody to read it. We must be aware of where, why and how the status-quo came to be and understand that these actions consistently undermine tribal sovereignty and disenfranchise our people,” said Lynnette Grey Bull, Senior Vice President of Global Indigenous Council, who also testified at the hearing.

Grey Bull resides on the Wind River Reservation in Wyoming, among Cheney’s constituents. Both the Northern Arapaho Tribe and Eastern Shoshone Tribe passed official resolutions and issued numerous communications opposing the delisting and trophy hunting of the grizzly bear. The Northern Arapaho Business Council was compelled to issue a “Cease and Desist” letter to the Department of Interior “regarding consistent misrepresentations of the Northern Arapaho Tribe’s position on grizzly delisting.”

Cheney contends that, “the ruling that forced today’s action was both needless and harmful to the ecosystem, which is why I introduced legislation earlier this year to reinstate the original, science-based decision by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service to delist the grizzly and prevent future court action on the delisting, returning management of the grizzly back to the state where it belongs.”

Tribal Nations, including the Oglala Sioux Tribe which petitioned for a Congressional inquiry into the influence of multi-national fossil-fuel corporations on FWS’s grizzly delisting decision, previously exposed the role of extractive industry in the process. USFWS engaged multinational oil and gas services group, Amec Foster Wheeler, for the peer review of its grizzly delisting rule that tribes and environmental groups deconstructed in court. Amec Foster Wheeler appointed Halliburton executive Jonathan Lewis as CEO in the same timeframe as USFWS contracted the company.

“That puts ‘harmful to the ecosystem’ into its true context,” responded Rodgers. “The Cheney family’s connections to Halliburton hardly needs elaborating upon,” added Chief Stan Grier, President of the Blackfoot Confederacy Chiefs. Grier and Blackfeet Chairman, Tim Davis, are at the forefront of the effort to stop the grizzly being delisted and trophy hunted in the Glacier National Park region, the heartland of Blackfoot Confederacy territory.

Cheney’s attempt to legislatively “prevent future court action on the delisting” was previously challenged by a coalition of tribes in testimony to the US Senate Environment and Public Works Committee.

“Any attempt . . . to legislatively nullify the Court’s ruling in Crow Tribe et al v. Zinke– to once again strip ESA protections from the grizzly bear – will, in addition to defying the Court, suborn the federal-Indian trust responsibility.  Given that the Constitution states, ‘all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land,’ the rights of Indian tribes cannot be treated as ‘temporary and precarious,’ as would be the case if Crow Tribe et al v. Zinke was legislatively subverted,” submitted the RMTLC, the Great Plains Tribal Chairman’s Association and the Blackfoot Confederacy.

“There’s more chance of her father receiving the Nobel Peace Prize than her Grizzly Bear State Management Act reaching the House floor,” said Rodgers of Cheney’s bill.

 

 

This sounds just like the people in Wyoming freaking out about expanding Grand Teton.  And now they are all happy it occurred.  

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