The GQP: Trumpist Death Cult

[Bama Llama 1435]

On 7/25/2024 at 12:31 PM, Biff Tannen said:

Moar of this guy please

That motherfucker is Exhibit A to the Honorable Mention Supplement to the Darwin Awards. Ever notice how the worst of them never take a breath? It’s a veritable oral diarrhea delivered in the same conceited monotone as Trumpatollah the Hutt himself. “Honorable Mention” because he somehow survived.

[aggie08 20344]

10 hours ago, Hook1997 said:

Crazy to me that friends and family have actually stopped talking over freaking politics, but many don’t respects anyone else’s views anymore and can’t separate a person from their political views.  I’ve learned to just not talk about politics with the extreme of either side.  

This is such unbridled horseshit. I live in fucking California, and I'm not sure if I've ever seen a Fuck Trump shirt/flag/bumper sticker/whatever in person. I can't go a day without seeing Let's Go Brandon or Fuck Biden. If I'm going camping with my learning-how-to-read kids, there's a 75% chance that there's a trailer within eyeshot flying a massive Fuck Biden flag on a 20' pole, and their kids have matching Let's Go Brandon shirts. Good news is that those flag poles are apparently easy to mount on their boats as well.

I've never once had someone try to bring up out of nowhere how important trans rights are and how we have to do more to protect them. It's ALWAYS right-leaning friends and family who are looking to find any opportunity to make their "trannie" jokes, or repeat the latest thing they heard about arresting parents for not paying for their 8 year old's gender reassignment or whatever the fuck. Who just can't wait to tell you how much better their black friend that no one has met was doing under Trump. It's a near daily occurrence for me (especially during COVID when everyone just had to share their favorite version of the "after the election, you'll never hear about COVID again" batshit conspiracies), so I can't imagine what it's like for those of you still in Texas.

This is an anonymous message board; you think most of us are running around talking about Trump and elections 24/7? No, we have the decency to not bring up politics in polite company. Today's right blows right fucking past social cues and any reasonable sense of time and place. They're so sure that everyone agrees with them that they take staying silent, avoiding eye contact, and attempts to change the subject as sure signs that we want to hear another half hour of their vile.

Why the fuck would I want to expose my family to that shit any more than I dutifully have to?

[Underdog 28118]

Excellent post.

[aggie08 20344]

Oh yeah, and one of those kids is a girl, and the hand-picked VP candidate of the man who's still the betting favorite to win the Presidency just said that if she chooses not to (or can't) procreate, her sad existence of a life has no meaning, and she doesn't have any real stake in the country or world.

But the Democrats probably have an iffy tax bill that they want to pass, and that could be harmful too. So I guess it's all the same.

[TwiceHorn 30834]

52 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

This is such unbridled horseshit. I live in fucking California, and I'm not sure if I've ever seen a Fuck Trump shirt/flag/bumper sticker/whatever in person. I can't go a day without seeing Let's Go Brandon or Fuck Biden. If I'm going camping with my learning-how-to-read kids, there's a 75% chance that there's a trailer within eyeshot flying a massive Fuck Biden flag on a 20' pole, and their kids have matching Let's Go Brandon shirts. Good news is that those flag poles are apparently easy to mount on their boats as well.

I've never once had someone try to bring up out of nowhere how important trans rights are and how we have to do more to protect them. It's ALWAYS right-leaning friends and family who are looking to find any opportunity to make their "trannie" jokes, or repeat the latest thing they heard about arresting parents for not paying for their 8 year old's gender reassignment or whatever the fuck. Who just can't wait to tell you how much better their black friend that no one has met was doing under Trump. It's a near daily occurrence for me (especially during COVID when everyone just had to share their favorite version of the "after the election, you'll never hear about COVID again" batshit conspiracies), so I can't imagine what it's like for those of you still in Texas.

This is an anonymous message board; you think most of us are running around talking about Trump and elections 24/7? No, we have the decency to not bring up politics in polite company. Today's right blows right fucking past social cues and any reasonable sense of time and place. They're so sure that everyone agrees with them that they take staying silent, avoiding eye contact, and attempts to change the subject as sure signs that we want to hear another half hour of their vile.

Why the fuck would I want to expose my family to that shit any more than I dutifully have to?

The thing that irritates about posts like the above (hook1997s) is the "extreme of either side."  Does extreme leftism exist?  Sure it does.  Does it enter the conversation in Cloak Room or elsewhere?  Not most of the time.

Note that most of the more progressive posters bad_teammate and Linux, are mostly absent from the discussions.

The right is all-extreme all the time.

Edited July 28 by TwiceHorn

[aggie08 20344]

^^^ The point being, in case I was unclear, is that right wing extremism and hateful rhetoric comes directly from their political and thought leaders. They start, foster, and stoke the fire. Left wing extremism is largely contained to message boards and whatever an antifa is.

Left wing extremism is "maybe everyone should get free healthcare."

Right wing extremism is "hey wouldn't it be cool if trans people weren't allowed to exist in our society, and we could make people ashamed to be gay again?"

Gee, I wonder why people take that shit personally?

[Hook1997 5239]

18 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

The thing that irritates about posts like the above (hook1997s) is the "extreme of either side."  Does extreme leftism exist?  Sure it does.  Does it enter the conversation in Cloak Room or elsewhere?  Not most of the time.

Note that most of the more progressive posters bad_teammate and Linux, are mostly absent from the discussions.

The right is all-extreme all the time.

The government literally talked to people from this board about their post…. I don’t get how yall are totally missing the both sides hate but it exists and happens and as also said it’s more than the other side. 🤷🏻‍♂️. But it happens and it happens here more than you like to admit.  And no not all the right is extreme like I said exactly, is it a bigger percentage yes but to say it’s all is the exact same thing they are doing.  

Edited July 28 by Hook1997

[Js1 82948]

Both sides hate = I’m right leaning but ashamed to admit it 

[aggie08 20344]

15 minutes ago, Hook1997 said:

The government literally talked to people from this board about their post…. I don’t get how yall are totally missing the both sides hate but it exists and happens and as also said it’s more than the other side. 🤷🏻‍♂️. But it happens and it happens here more than you like to admit.  

From anonymous Internet posters. It's regrettable when it does, and people should definitely better channel their anger. I missed the truly bad posts after the assassination attempt, but some of the ones I did see were cringe and over the line. But again, we're not politicians.

Right wing hate starts at the very top. And they milk the shit out of that hate for their own gain. We didn't even need January 6 to realize how incredibly dangerous that it. And now it's too late: if anyone in the GOP steps out of line and goes against the boss, they're ostracized. So hate is the only acceptable party platform now.

Edited July 28 by aggie08

[aggie08 20344]

7 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Both sides hate = I’m right leaning but ashamed to admit it 

This one feels more like a "I'm going to vote Trump, but I need a way to feel okay about it."

Same, same.

[Hook1997 5239]

22 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

From anonymous Internet posters. It's regrettable when it does, and people should definitely better channel their anger. I missed the truly bad posts after the assassination attempt, but some of the ones I did see were cringe and over the line. But again, we're not politicians.

But right wing hate starts at the very top. And they milk the shit out of that hate for their own gain. We didn't even need January 6 to realize how incredibly dangerous that it. And now it's too late: if anyone in the GOP steps out of line and goes against the boss, they're ostracized. So hate is the only acceptable party platform now.

 

21 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

This one feels more like a "I'm going to vote Trump, but I need a way to feel okay about it."

Same, same.

First, a Votecast survey, conducted by University of Chicago’s National Opinion Research Center in conjunction with the 2022 election, asked whether each party was “too tolerant of extremist groups.” Fifty-three percent found Republicans too tolerant of extremists and an identical 53 percent said the same of Democrats.    

In response to another question, 47 percent said Republicans need more moderate candidates while 49 percent expressed the same desire for Democrats.  

Equal numbers said Democrats and Republicans welcome extremism and that each party needed more centrist candidates.  
 

y’all just keep your heads in the sand and keep going “what” my party does nothing wrong.   The article also says there’s more in the right, like I said but goes on to explain it’s not just one side and there’s many articles that say the exact same thing.  Also the saying I’m voting Trump is hilarious and shows your ignorance and blind view for one side and nothing else. This is exactly why there’s I hate Cloakroom thread…. You talk just as close minded and judgmental as the other side.

Edited July 28 by Hook1997

[aggie08 20344]

2 minutes ago, Hook1997 said:

y’all just keep your heads in the sand and keep going “what” my party does nothing wrong.

Stop doing this. Literally no one ever says that. But, when your choices are a Ford Pinto full of human excrement and a 1998 Honda Accord, it's pretty easy. That doesn't make the Accord perfect. 

Look at my user name...you think I'm some lifelong bleeding heart liberal? The right just has absolutely nothing to offer me right now. That's not changing while Trump is alive because he is the party, and that party is pure, open hatred.

 

Also, can you please link that study? I'm curious how they define extremism. Or how those surveyed perceived it. Anecdotally speaking, when I hear left wing extremists, I tend to think policy: free college, crazy high taxes, universal income/healthcare, etc. Right wing extremists has me thinking Proud Boys, Jan 6, election deniers, etc. 

[Biff Tannen 45013]

4 hours ago, Bama Llama said:

That motherfucker is Exhibit A to the Honorable Mention Supplement to the Darwin Awards. Ever notice how the worst of them never take a breath? It’s a veritable oral diarrhea delivered in the same conceited monotone as Trumpatollah the Hutt himself. “Honorable Mention” because he somehow survived.

You are aware he’s making fun of them right?

[Hook1997 5239]

11 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Stop doing this. Literally no one ever says that. But, when your choices are a Ford Pinto full of human excrement and a 1998 Honda Accord, it's pretty easy. That doesn't make the Accord perfect. 

Look at my user name...you think I'm some lifelong bleeding heart liberal? The right just has absolutely nothing to offer me right now. That's not changing while Trump is alive because he is the party, and that party is pure, open hatred.

 

Also, can you please link that study? I'm curious how they define extremism. Or how those surveyed perceived it. Anecdotally speaking, when I hear left wing extremists, I tend to think policy: free college, crazy high taxes, universal income/healthcare, etc. Right wing extremists has me thinking Proud Boys, Jan 6, election deniers, etc. 

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https://thehill.com/opinion/4037864-mellman-extremism-is-more-bipartisan-than-democrats-want-to-believe/

https://www.thedailybeast.com/voters-think-democrats-have-their-own-extremism-problemhttps://kslnewsradio.com/1995481/democrats-and-republicans-need-to-silence-the-extremists-in-their-parties/

[Biff Tannen 45013]

1 hour ago, aggie08 said:

Right wing extremism is "hey wouldn't it be cool if trans people weren't allowed to exist in our society, and we could make people ashamed to be gay again?"

This is a very polite version

[jimmyjazz 45162]

"Why are you so intolerant of my intolerance???"

[Sawbonz 26808]

13 minutes ago, Hook1997 said:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/voters-think-democrats-have-their-own-extremism-problemhttps://kslnewsradio.com/1995481/democrats-and-republicans-need-to-silence-the-extremists-in-their-parties/

Let’s look at this a different way. There are definitely extremists on both sides. 
 

How about you post some quotes or actions by Democratic elected officials or party leaders (or even strategists/influencers) that a centrist would consider extreme 

And others can post examples from Republican elected officials, party leaders, etc that a centrist would consider extreme 

 

Then we can compare

[aggie08 20344]

17 minutes ago, Hook1997 said:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/voters-think-democrats-have-their-own-extremism-problemhttps://kslnewsradio.com/1995481/democrats-and-republicans-need-to-silence-the-extremists-in-their-parties/

How would you define left-wing extremism? Who are the elected officials pushing those extremes?

[mchookem 15535]

wait...'the government' contacted surly posters bc of their posts here??

man. i mean i feel like i spend a lot of time perusing this site, but apparently i don't spend enough. i had no idea this was a thing that happened 😳

[SimonBolivar 10673]

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/28/us/politics/far-right-miracle-cure-medbed.html?unlocked_article_code=1.-k0.jzs4.g2lL1I94eEmZ&smid=url-share

 

We're screwed as a species.

[gmr548 16289]

13 hours ago, Hook1997 said:

 But this is a classic example of neither side admitting any faults crap that’s going on now. 

Uh, you might have heard that one "side" just pushed the incumbent POTUS out of the race - unprecedented in modern history - because it was made abundantly clear to the electorate (who have in turn made themselves clear through polling) and eventually the rank and file of the party that he was not up to mounting the kind of campaign needed to win, or to governing for four more years, despite a relatively strong record in his first term.

Unless you are just being intentionally disingenuous or are extremely stupid, you surely recognize that such a reckoning is unfathomable in the cult of personality known as the Republican Party. 

This is such a load of horseshit lol. I get you want to feel smart, edgy, above the fray, etc. but when you are consistently grading one party on a vastly different curve than the other - which is the only way to arrive at the "both sides are the same" conclusion - you've already tacitly admitted they are not in fact the same.

 

[Scheiss Meister 8308]

Hmm.  Every time that the Democratic candidate gets some positive press or momentum we are graced with some "both sides!" posts.  No, it's just coincidence.

[Biff Tannen 45013]

23 minutes ago, mchookem said:

wait...'the government' contacted surly posters bc of their posts here??

man. i mean i feel like i spend a lot of time perusing this site, but apparently i don't spend enough. i had no idea this was a thing that happened 😳

Same. I wasn’t around that week. Did this really happen?

[mchookem 15535]

14 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

This is such a load of horseshit lol. I get you want to feel smart, edgy, above the fray, etc. but when you are consistently grading one party on a vastly different curve than the other - which is the only way to arrive at the "both sides are the same" conclusion - you've already tacitly admitted they are not in fact the same.

 

Ana be like

 

[Brisketexan 103515]

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/28/us/politics/far-right-miracle-cure-medbed.html?unlocked_article_code=1.-k0.jzs4.g2lL1I94eEmZ&smid=url-share
 
We're screwed as a species.

I should feel sorry for him. A simple, regular dude. He served. He has worked plenty of good honest jobs. He’s in pain.
I should care.
I don’t. Not anymore. Because their solution to THEIR pain is to inflict pain on others. Fuck em. My only regret is that I’m not one of the people grifting these assholes out of every last penny. Every. Last. Penny.

[Bama Llama 1435]

1 hour ago, Biff Tannen said:

You are aware he’s making fun of them right?

Well, there you go. Darwinism is leftist propaganda anyway, right?

[DaysOff 7682]

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/28/us/politics/far-right-miracle-cure-medbed.html?unlocked_article_code=1.-k0.jzs4.g2lL1I94eEmZ&smid=url-share
 
We're screwed as a species.

Let's call a spade a spade. Stupid-white-trash.

[Js1 82948]

21 minutes ago, Scheiss Meister said:

Hmm.  Every time that the Democratic candidate gets some positive press or momentum we are graced with some "both sides!" posts.  No, it's just coincidence.

Just playing the 2016 hits. 

[Captainant 26902]

1 hour ago, Hook1997 said:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/voters-think-democrats-have-their-own-extremism-problemhttps://kslnewsradio.com/1995481/democrats-and-republicans-need-to-silence-the-extremists-in-their-parties/

Lol you're citing an AIPAC person and a conservative opinion writer who's trying labeling the anti-genocide posture of many dems as "extreme". Miss me with that, broheim. 

How bout you do something crazy and synthesize your own ideas and then back it with sources, rather than mindlessly reposting concern trolls? Like, can you actually articulate your concerns with specific posts or actions? Or are you stuck in """many people are saying""" land?

 

Go fuck a couch and then fuck some kids with epstein if you want to claim that #bothsides are bad

[atomheartbevo 88913]

2 hours ago, aggie08 said:

Right wing hate starts at the very top. And they milk the shit out of that hate for their own gain. We didn't even need January 6 to realize how incredibly dangerous that it. And now it's too late: if anyone in the GOP steps out of line and goes against the boss, they're ostracized. So hate is the only acceptable party platform now.

Yep, we had Trump for years encouraging his fans to chant “lock her up” in reference to the woman he beat in 2016. I don’t recall Biden holding rallies and encouraging people to chant “lock him up!”

Edited July 28 by atomheartbevo

[atomheartbevo 88913]

 

1 hour ago, mchookem said:

wait...'the government' contacted surly posters bc of their posts here??

man. i mean i feel like i spend a lot of time perusing this site, but apparently i don't spend enough. i had no idea this was a thing that happened 😳

Wait, the government reads Surly and contacted people over posts they made?

 

[Captainant 26902]

1 hour ago, mchookem said:

wait...'the government' contacted surly posters bc of their posts here??

man. i mean i feel like i spend a lot of time perusing this site, but apparently i don't spend enough. i had no idea this was a thing that happened 😳

Yeah I'm gonna call bullshit on that. Sounds like something that someone would say in DT or 6SJ to score some sweet rep from the fascists, and then is repeated until they believe it. 

@immamac did that actually happen?

[immamac 41615]

Just now, Captainant said:

Yeah I'm gonna call bullshit on that. Sounds like something that someone would say in DT or 6SJ to score some sweet rep from the fascists, and then is repeated until they believe it. 

@immamac did that actually happen?

Yes, have you not seen the thread? 

[Captainant 26902]

2 minutes ago, immamac said:

Yes, have you not seen the thread? 

Feds came to surly because of some posts about trump getting his ear cut, and not because of raydog or txtow?

And no, I didn't see the thread until after y'all memory holed everything 

Edited July 28 by Captainant

[immamac 41615]

6 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Feds came to surly because of some posts about trump getting his ear cut, and not because of raydog or txtow?

And no, I didn't see the thread until after y'all memory holed everything 

The thread in ipihb

[Captainant 26902]

3 minutes ago, immamac said:

The thread in ipihb

Huh, hadn't browsed over there in some time, thanks for the visibility.

Would it be possible for surly to set up a canary statement or something along those lines to let us know (in a legally compliant way) when those requests come through?

 

It's funny though that they didn't give a shit when half of DT was talking about how much they'd like to go take care of protesters themselves and were glad that violence was being done in the name of their political preferences 

[immamac 41615]

No. 

[Captainant 26902]

And that's fair. 

[Horn Dog 9473]

Wait.  So the gov contacted posters about their pr0n posts in a VERY non political part of this site (which is apparently where Hook1997 hangs out) and this is an example of political extreme both sideism??   

[WhatTheBuck 28604]

2 hours ago, SimonBolivar said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/28/us/politics/far-right-miracle-cure-medbed.html?unlocked_article_code=1.-k0.jzs4.g2lL1I94eEmZ&smid=url-share

 

We're screwed as a species.

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“I’m so glad we’re in this war together,” said an aircraft mechanic who went by the name Oath Keeper Bill. “We need you healthy and strong. Have you been following the latest news on medbeds?”

“Oh yeah. They’re here, and they can heal anything,” someone else responded. “Cancer. Dementia. Broken bones. Arthritis. Forty-five minutes in one of those beds, and you’ll never be in pain again.”

“Come on,” Michael said. “Really?”

Of all the wild conspiracies he’d discovered on Patriot Party News, the concept of medbeds had initially struck Michael as the most far-fetched, even if it was also among the most popular. Every few days, someone else on the platform shared an illustration of a futuristic-looking chamber, sometimes with a doctored image of Trump superimposed in the foreground. The founder of the site, Armour, sometimes mentioned videos or podcasts about medbeds that had become popular on the far-right corners of Telegram, Discord and Rumble, and Michael clicked on the links, as did millions of others.

The videos claimed with no evidence that the U.S. military was already in possession of advanced, or possibly even alien, technology that could cure all disease and extend human life. There were said to be at least three types of medbeds already in existence in secret military tunnels. One, a “holographic medbed,” scanned the body to instantly diagnose and then heal any sickness, no matter how severe. Another bed was able to regenerate personal DNA so people could regrow missing limbs in a few minutes. A third was designed for reverse aging and could rewind people’s bodies to the age and condition of their choosing.

The only holdup, according to the videos, was that a collection of liberal billionaires kept hoarding the technology for themselves. On the Patriot Party News audio feed, people speculated that medbeds wouldn’t be available to the public until Trump was back in control of the White House, at which point everyone would be invited to make appointments for free at a secret underground military base.

“We are about to cross that start line into our medbed future,” said an Australian woman who called herself Skye Prince and claimed to be a military expert, in a video shared on Patriot Party News that has been viewed several million times. “We are leaving a life of poverty, ill health, uncertainty, and moving into wealth, abundance, perfect health. You could almost say we are about to be born again.”

“Thank God the wait is almost over!” Michael heard someone say on the audio channel in the last days of spring. “Medbeds are finally coming. I hope I can get my mom to the front of the line since she’s Stage 4.”

“Amen. I need an appointment for my husband after his latest stroke,” someone else responded.

Stupid. Fucking. Morons.

Someone needs to do a follow up with Chesebro (any relation to Kenneth?) in 30 days to verify that his snake oil treatment didn’t do jack shit.

[tx ind 6872]

Haha, that’s looks like an ordinary hyperbaric chamber

[Macanudo 12743]

Baxstar Industries is headquarted in Florida.   It doesn't get any more MAGA than that.

[Francisco 2.0 31922]

 

 

 

[Pato del Muerto 52035]

Any explanation why these liberal billionaires are withholding these from Biden?

[Francisco 2.0 31922]

2 hours ago, SimonBolivar said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/28/us/politics/far-right-miracle-cure-medbed.html?unlocked_article_code=1.-k0.jzs4.g2lL1I94eEmZ&smid=url-share

 

 

Hmmm.

 

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and Janel, who was facing foreclosure on her house in Illinois and trying to rehome all 30 of her cats;

 

 

[Francisco 2.0 31922]

5 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Any explanation why these liberal billionaires are withholding these from Biden?

 

I was wondering if Trump knew of all this medbed technology, why wasn't one installed at Mar-A-Lago (he's a billionaire, so he could afford one, right?) and take advantage of it himself.  Can't quite figure out why these patriots haven't thought this all the way through.

 

 

Edited July 28 by Francisco 2.0

[tx 3 putt 75225]

 

[bolverk 29035]

nevermind (it was AI)

Edit 2: Electric Boogaloo

Fuck it. I'm reposting just because it's funny, even though it's apparently not real because it still applies to Kimberly Gargoyle.

Edited July 28 by bolverk

[WhatTheBuck 28604]

1 hour ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Any explanation why these liberal billionaires are withholding these from Biden?

Kind of an obvious question, isn’t it? Somehow it never crossed their minds. Our military has this cure-all, fountain-of-youth technology but the Commander in Chief who they insist has dementia hasn’t availed himself of it. But when Trump gets back into office, they and their meemaws are going to be invited to the secret underground base for free treatments.

Makes perfect sense.

[Brisketexan 103515]

Kind of an obvious question, isn’t it? Somehow it never crossed their minds. Our military has this cure-all, fountain-of-youth technology but the Commander in Chief who they insist has dementia hasn’t availed himself of it. But when Trump gets back into office, they and their meemaws are going to be invited to the secret underground base for free treatments.
Makes perfect sense.

When you understand that these people are walking weaponized abject stupidity, it all makes sense.