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This is such unbridled horseshit. I live in fucking California, and I'm not sure if I've ever seen a Fuck Trump shirt/flag/bumper sticker/whatever in person. I can't go a day without seeing Let's Go B

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Did not have former Skid Row lead singer Sebastian Bach talking shit to MAGA cult members on my bingo card. But here we are.  

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Yep. I was a George Will/Ronald Reagan/Al Laffer conservative.  I genuinely thought that if you cut taxes for the upper classes, then they would spend and invest and the economic result of that w

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14 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

It very well could.

And if the McConnell Senate refuses to certify the election.....the rule of law is dead, and the people can and should resort to other means of re-asserting their authority.  The GOP is playing a dangerous, dangerous game.

I don't think that is how that works.

The Archivist of the US transmits the electoral certificates provided by the governors to the House and Senate.

Congress holds a joint meeting with the Speaker and the President of the Senate (Pence) presiding.  President of the Senate (VP) opens each envelope and hands it to the "tellers" (2 House and 2 Senate members, one from each party) who announce the results. 

FYI - the current Archivist was appointed by Obama. 

As well, any member of the House or Senate can object to a result, but it requires someone from the other chamber to go along with their objection.  And they vote on the objection, which requires a majority from both chambers - if deadlocked, it reverts to the governors' certification. 

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10 minutes ago, Js1 said:

I don't think that is how that works.

The Archivist of the US transmits the electoral certificates provided by the governors to the House and Senate.

Congress holds a joint meeting with the Speaker and the President of the Senate (Pence) presiding.  President of the Senate (VP) opens each envelope and hands it to the "tellers" (2 House and 2 Senate members, one from each party) who announce the results. 

FYI - the current Archivist was appointed by Obama. 

As well, any member of the House or Senate can object to a result, but it requires someone from the other chamber to go along with their objection.  And they vote on the objection, which requires a majority from both chambers - if deadlocked, it reverts to the governors' certification. 

That's good to hear.  What if a governor doesn't certify? 

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Just get everyone you know to vote and hope Trump doesn't get Putin's help changing actual votes.  

GOP Record with Trump?

Massive increase in border crossings, with bonus of planned and purposefully maximizing the seperation of children from their parents.

Trying every possible means to make the future of health care as uncertain as possible.  Specifically wanting people with pre-existing conditions to be screwed by the insurance companies.

Massive increase corporate socialist spending propping up industries with taxpayer dollars, directly because of Trumps tariffs

Massive increase in deficits during a time of relative plenty, with legislation giving the richest a bigger portion of the pie, again at middle class expense.

Tariff's that will soon wipe our any benefit for the middle class from their meager tax cut.

Got the Supreme court and lower federal courts packed with conservatives, by the lowest moral means ever.

Embrace racism through silence.

Causing the only black member of the GOP's House membership to retire.

The acceptance of clear lies repetitively and defended the clear lies with the same repetitiveness.

With that record the 2020 plan is basically yell Socialism and pray for Putin's help and a low turnout. I'm hoping for a high turnout, and enjoying seeing Trump's perp walk.

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2 hours ago, horn4life said:

What I am becoming convinced of is that while there is voter apathy, there is a little bit less voter apathy of late, and that should scare the shit out of the GOP.  Representatives in Texas see the handwriting on the wall.  They won by single digits in districts carved specifically to give GOP candidates easy wins.  I think you are going to see a lot bigger turnout among younger voters, minorities and a flight from the GOP by more educated whites in the Suburbs. 

None of those guys retires if they think they can win next year, and odds are good they are all basing part (all?) of their decisions off of data they are sharing at the state level.   

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Barrack Hussein Obama II won both of his elections by triple-digit electoral votes.  Trump won by 77, and three of the states he needed were by less than 80,000 combined, and he won’t win all three of those states again.  

When Republicans in Texas are jumping off the ship, you know they are seeing something.

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2 hours ago, Mojo Hand said:

While it's hard to fathom, a coordinated claim of "illegal voting for Dems stole the election" could be an excuse not to certify. 

it’s not hard to fathom at all.  In fact, you can just about bank on it - that is, IF trump isn’t claiming outright victory (with the help of foreign interference and vote fixing).  

 

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1 minute ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

If Trump wins the popular vote, we can burn this motherfucker down regardless. 

Much more likely he loses the popular vote by even more (maybe 5 million total) and still wins.

Though I still don't think he wins.  He's way too underwater for a guy with a "great" economy.  Any other president with this economy would be up in the 60-70s in approval.  

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Yeah, but he's going to cheat.

again.

Nothing would make Russia happier than Trump, again, losing the popular vote (by even more) and winning the electoral college.  He loves this shit.

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Nothing would make Russia happier than Trump, again, losing the popular vote (by even more) and winning the electoral college.  He loves this shit.

First, Russia will be delighted regardless of the outcome.   Second, IMO, Putin's hate for the United States is the driving force here.  Whatever destabilizes the United States the most is in his interest.   It's debatable what would destabilize the US more, a Trump 2nd term or the vanquishing of the Republican Party with a perceived radical change and the subsequent backlash from the Trumpkins.  Also, the possibility of Trump going to prison. 

Either way, Russia wins in 2020.   

However, as far as Putin operating geo-strategically in Russia's interests, Trump would be the better choice assuming Trump could last long in a 2nd term. 

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But are there enough guys who look exactly like the guy talking to McCaul in Texas to put him over the top?  His super gerrymandered district unfortunately is becoming more educated with the continued development of the Domain area in Austin.  Though I'm sure he will carry Tomball... 

look at this map to see how rock solid a Republican district this should be.McCaul's district 10 map

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7 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

It very well could.

And if the McConnell Senate refuses to certify the election.....the rule of law is dead, and the people can and should resort to other means of re-asserting their authority.  The GOP is playing a dangerous, dangerous game.

They aren't playing a game. They have been fully endorsing the overthrow of our Democracy since, at the very latest, 2016 when this assclown was elected. This is not a game to those traitorous assholes. They are openly destroying our country and give no fucks about that. 

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But are there enough guys who look exactly like the guy talking to McCaul in Texas to put him over the top?  His super gerrymandered district unfortunately is becoming more educated with the continued development of the Domain area in Austin.  Though I'm sure he will carry Tomball... 
look at this map to see how rock solid a Republican district this should be.McCaul's district 10 map

I’m hosting a fundraiser for Hutcheson for TX10 if anyone wants to donate. She’s doing extremely well fundraising right now and McCaul’s opponent last go round mailed it in and McCaul barely won. This district is winnable.
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One big problem for the republicans going forward is their voter suppression techniques in the inner cities (closing down polling stations, voter ID, purging voter rolls, etc) don’t work as well in the suburbs. The soccer moms won’t stand for that and that’s why trump pissing them all off is so devastating to the republicans and their gerrymandered districts. This is especially bad for them in Texas.

Oh well. 

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One big problem for the republicans going forward is their voter suppression techniques in the inner cities (closing down polling stations, voter ID, purging voter rolls, etc) don’t work as well in the suburbs. The soccer moms won’t stand for that and that’s why trump pissing them all off is so devastating to the republicans and their gerrymandered districts. This is especially bad for them in Texas.

Oh well. 

County wide voting is going to be a gamechanger in Texas. You can already early vote anywhere in your county. No excuse not to be able to do the same on Election Day. Harris county will set the model for Bexar, Travis, Tarrant, El Paso and Dallas counties to do the same. 

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Ok I found this pretty funny.  Cliff notes version-  Virginia GOP and state rep both forget to file paperwork on time.  So now GOP now has no candidate on the ballot in a repub stronghold election and the dem will run unopposed.  The VA statehouse is currently GOP controlled by 1 vote.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/virginia-says-its-too-late-to-add-republican-legislator-to-the-ballot/2019/07/31/c8bee712-b3bc-11e9-951e-de024209545d_story.html

https://www.wvtf.org/post/elections-board-denies-gop-another-chance-central-virginia-district#stream/0

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20 hours ago, horncyclist said:

How states go blue? Slowly and then all at once?

when you draw congressional districts so that your party's votes have a minimum of wasted votes and the other's has a maximum of wasted votes, that's what happens.  suddenly all those districts that were drawn with a small but comfortable margin in your favor are a small margin in the other's. 

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when you draw congressional districts so that your party's votes have a minimum of wasted votes and the other's has a maximum of wasted votes, that's what happens.  suddenly all those districts that were drawn with a small but comfortable margin in your favor are a small margin in the other's. 

also, when voters wake up and realize that they are completely being taken for granted.

this can happen on #bothsides, but the republican party has been the most egregious offender that i've seen in my lifetime. 

hence, dan patrick.

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27 minutes ago, elfenix said:

when you draw congressional districts so that your party's votes have a minimum of wasted votes and the other's has a maximum of wasted votes, that's what happens.  suddenly all those districts that were drawn with a small but comfortable margin in your favor are a small margin in the other's. 

Here’s hoping suburban whites in Texas break the gerrymander

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The biggest rural advantage beyond demographics is the ability to get out a higher percentage of voters that WANT to vote have their ballots cast.  Drive through any small town in texas on election day.  You don't see big lines.  Most of the people voted early and they did not face a line voting early either.  Whereas, in Austin last election there was no day or time when I drove by the early voting at Randall's on Braker where it was NOT going to take at least 20 minutes.  Hour waits on election day are typical, IF you go early.  Lots and lot of voters do not wait an hour.  If they could just walk in and with two minutes like rural voters the GOP would be wiped out instantaneously.

I honestly just wish the GOP would adopt ideas that the majority of the nation prefers, rather than scheme to reduce turnout...

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