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1 minute ago, BevoAbyss said:

El Chupa is at least correct about one thing. 

White people from Europe (Christian, capitalist, supposed "freedom" seekers) enacted a genocide on Native Americans to colonize and seize a continent. Along with treaty after treaty being broken by the Christian-capitalists, the genocidal legacy has been devastating and the effects are complex and run deep. Emasculation, being one (which often produces the macho over-compensation seen here).

If he is who he says he is.... then what he doesn't realize is how his consciousness and worldview have been largely colonized by the conquerors. Specifically, the ideology of the descendants of the conquerors. Via Fox, churches, online misinformation, echo chambers, etc.. An ideology which is now deeply fascist.

Frankly, it's sad. I find myself feeling pity ... though I suspect he will trash this comment. 

(Yes, over the years traveling in the southwest, I have been on a few reservations and talked to 10-20 Native Americans about ideas, art, nature, politics, etc. It is always a massive learning experience for me and my girlfriend.)

You truly believe that Europeans are responsible for the Trail of Tears? And the forced relocation of Natives to Indian Territory? 

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Posted (edited)
4 minutes ago, ElChupacabra said:

 

Ooh, really holding my feet to the flames, aren't you? So, we can combine two states and exceed the population of Germany and you're caught up on my mistake? Well, well, well. I have certainly been humbled 🤣

you said most american states, now you're combining the two largest states. (you're still wrong by the way, california and texas combined still have about 16 million fewer people than germany.) don't get mad at me. i am just on a quest to understand and empathize with my fellow citizen.

now that we have established that, tell me why it "skews" the data to do a per capita basis comparison between a country of 300 million and 84 million? again, please consult the central limit theorem in crafting your response.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

What are the two largest states by population, and what is their population?

California and Texas have 39M and 30M respectively. More than all of the UK.

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Posted
42 minutes ago, ElChupacabra said:

All brought on by your white friends on this site and their ancestors. 

 

But, wait! You believe the system is inherently racist. If that is true. How did your friends "made it out of the most crushing poverty and social situations our country has to offer"?

Actually, probably most of us do not believe racism is inherent to our system. 

That is actual critical race theory, or one aspect of it. 

I suspect that most of us believe that American racism is exogenous and perpetrated and perpetuated by groups of individuals. 

Whether racism is inherent to the United States of America, or exogenous, there remains a shit load of it, which you are proving on an individual basis. 

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Posted
1 minute ago, ElChupacabra said:

You truly believe that Europeans are responsible for the Trail of Tears? And the forced relocation of Natives to Indian Territory? 

Hahaha we are talking to a middle schooler. What the fuck? Get off the internet lil man.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, ElChupacabra said:

You truly believe that Europeans are responsible for the Trail of Tears? And the forced relocation of Natives to Indian Territory? 

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Posted
Just now, HOOKEM4 said:

Hahaha we are talking to a middle schooler. What the fuck? Get off the internet lil man.

His dumbass did show up about the time middle school lets out.

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Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, ElChupacabra said:

California and Texas have 39M and 30M respectively. More than all of the UK.

But not Germany. Love that you neglect all the facts and keep changing your argument. You are so full of shit it's amusing.

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1 minute ago, sidis said:

you said most american states, now you're combining the two largest states. don't get mad at me? i am just on a quest to understand and empathize with my fellow citizen.

now that we have established that, tell me why it "skews" the data to do a per capita basis comparison between a country of 300 million and 84 million? again, please consult the central limit theorem in crafting your response.

How can we reliably compare two entirely different civilizations where one has a predominantly white populace that had their guns taken away 100 years ago and a population as diverse as ours where guns are bountiful. How do you think the per capita on gun crime couldn't be skewed? Did you forget that that's where that point of contention began? 

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Posted
6 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Has everyone gotten their shots in? Are we done here yet?

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actually, i'm not. i just needed to kill some time for the last hour waiting on someone and this shit-for-brains helped me out.

i then transitioned to contemplating the fact that i have to share roads with someone like this. not encouraging.

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Just now, sidis said:

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actually, i'm not. i just needed to kill some time for the last hour waiting on someone and this shit-for-brains helped me out.

i then transitioned to contemplating the fact that i have to share roads with someone like this. not encouraging.

You are sharing the road with his parents. Not much better but there is hope.

Posted
3 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Actually, probably most of us do not believe racism is inherent to our system.

Back the fuck up. Tell your friends that. I already know that our system isn't racist or I wouldn't be where I am today.

 

5 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

I suspect that most of us believe that American racism is exogenous and perpetrated and perpetuated by groups of individuals.

I agree wholeheartedly. In my experience, mostly from left-leaning. Couldn't tell you how many southern Democrats I've heard drop N bombs growing up 

 

6 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Whether racism is inherent to the United States of America, or exogenous, there remains a shit load of it, which you are proving on an individual basis.

Please point to one racist thing I've said. Just one. I'm biracial with an adopted biracial child. Please tell me how I am a racist. Please.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, HOOKEM4 said:

You are sharing the road with his parents. Not much better but there is hope.

Nope. Both parents deceased. Though I'll be the first to admit my mom couldn't drive for shit. Daddy drove an 18 wheeler OTR for many years. He could drive with one hand and roll a spliff with the other. 

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Posted
1 minute ago, ElChupacabra said:

How can we reliably compare two entirely different civilizations where one has a predominantly white populace that had their guns taken away 100 years ago and a population as diverse as ours where guns are bountiful. How do you think the per capita on gun crime couldn't be skewed? Did you forget that that's where that point of contention began? 

so it seems perhaps you have come full circle.

first, i am glad that you are no longer saying that the data is skewed because of quantum of population differences. that is encouraging.

i believe this whole thing started with you professing your erotic commitment to our country's fetish with pew pews. someone made the point that this cultural phenomenon has led to insanely exacerbated violence perpetrated on the united states population at the hands of firearms relative to other civilized countries in the world.

you then said hey, there's violence in other places as well, look at the u.k. and their stabbings.

then we had a long tangent on statistics and per capita and population and white people and a whole bunch of other complete and utter bullshit.

and now, it seems, that you are saying that we can't compare the united states violence due to firearms to other civilized countries because we have a culture that loves firearms and the other countries do not.

now, i am no tolerant genius like yourself...but perhaps you could go ahead and make that last connection between those last two dots that bring it full circle.

in case you can't, it would seem that you agree that our country's fetish with guns has created a unique, some might say even difficult to compare, environment with overwhelmingly tragic outcomes relative to the rest of western civilization and that it is your argument that it is SO UNIQUE, in fact, that it is not even reasonable to compare our culture with others.

good talk.

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Posted
1 minute ago, ElChupacabra said:

Nope. Both parents deceased. Though I'll be the first to admit my mom couldn't drive for shit. Daddy drove an 18 wheeler OTR for many years. He could drive with one hand and roll a spliff with the other. 

The lady doth protest.

Post more. 

Posted (edited)
5 minutes ago, ElChupacabra said:

It's been good, ladies and gents (and whatever the mentally ill prefer to be called) but I gotta go. Got cows to check and children to indoctrinate. Peace!

 

 

Ohhhhhh gotta take a shot at the LGBTQ+ community. Never saw that coming. Bi-racial, totally tolerant and just spouting the facts, totally not racist! Signing off!

Fuck you. You are a garbage human that will figure out all too late when the leopards are eating your face. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, ElChupacabra said:

You'll have to forgive me. I am a fervent believer in the second amendment and I find it alarming that so many illiterate people cannot understand the words Shall Not Be Infringed. If you're concerned with weapons, go to the UK. They don't have guns. But, what they do have is an alarming number of stabbings and bludgeonings. Humans will kill and maim in any manner possible. Let's not make it harder for good people to defend themselves from those that would seek to do them harm.

Remind me what words come before “Shall Not Be Infringed”.

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, ElChupacabra said:

You intentionally minimalizing the massive distinction between 25% less whites is...well, expected. You claim data is your friend yet you are only proving that the whiter the country the lesser the crime statistics. I don't want a white country. But, it appears you do. 

This, and your several related statements, are pretty fucking racist, whether you recognize that or not.

You try to rely on data to show that more white = less crime.  There are a variety of explanations why countries with different demographics have differing crime rates.  And which explanation is correct, or which of several is correct, is unknowable and unprovable. But you clearly choose to believe that it is the proportion of white people, or, conversely, black people that dictates a higher crime rates.  

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Posted
1 hour ago, Thrawn said:

I have to say this is one of the worst trolls in recent memory on this site. I really can't think of another one that is as stupid as this motherfucker. You old timers will have to regale us with stories of those who were worse, but damn this guy sucks at this.

I'm getting caught up, so this may have already been addressed. This poster's rhetoric is about Swam's level of persistent and abject stupidity, which hasn't been seen around these parts in quite a while.

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Posted
1 hour ago, ElChupacabra said:

 

 

Quick glance says there are at least eight American CITIES with higher populations than Germany. Cities, my boy. Not states.

 



I don't even have to look this up. There are no American cities with higher populations than Germany, nor any cities on earth. 

You seem pretty dumb.

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Posted
1 hour ago, ElChupacabra said:

Again, you are intentionally discrediting that there is a massive population difference between those three countries. You also seem to refuse to admit that the countries you want to cherry pick are predominantly white. 

 

Quick glance says there are at least eight American CITIES with higher populations than Germany. Cities, my boy. Not states. When you have a dense population of humans you inherently have more crime. I believe the Bible even makes mention of that somewhere. 

Also, most of those cities I alluded to are the highest contributors to crime statistics in the US and the majority of them are Democrat controlled. Shocking. 

Still getting caught up but this needs to be addressed. Maybe it already has down-thread.

Germany's population is more than 80 million. No fucking city in the US has that many people. Hell, California (our most populous state) has less than half that number of people.

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Posted
14 minutes ago, tchookem said:
3 hours ago, Red Five said:
holy fuck

Referring to his kid/kids as offspring, then quoting Candace Owens was like trying to hide a growling stomach with a wet fart.

I always refer to mine as my progeny

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Posted
2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Clarence Thomas, in the SCOTUS Bruen decision, LITERALLY said that in considering gun regulations, we can ONLY consider gun regulations that were in place/within the "historical tradition" of the time of the adoption of the 2nd amendment.

And then he didn’t do that, but that’s another issue.

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Posted
44 minutes ago, bolverk said:

Still getting caught up but this needs to be addressed. Maybe it already has down-thread.

Germany's population is more than 80 million. No fucking city in the US has that many people. Hell, California (our most populous state) has less than half that number of people.

You just haven't been to Boca lately.  

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1 hour ago, bolverk said:

Still getting caught up but this needs to be addressed. Maybe it already has down-thread.

Germany's population is more than 80 million. No fucking city in the US has that many people. Hell, California (our most populous state) has less than half that number of people.


This isn't even the dumbest thing he said in this thread. 

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Posted (edited)

Chupacabra is Johnny Sack on his normal Thursday bender. He literally tells all of you here

5 hours ago, ElChupacabra said:

I'm just thankful that our beautiful was born healthy and in a free country. I don't think a parent can ask for much more. 

 

As for the rest of your statement, I genuinely do not believe that anyone is evil. I think we all possess the capacity to be evil but I think that with a solid family foundation built around personal values and beliefs we can all live harmoniously. 

It’s him

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Posted
1 hour ago, Sawbonz said:

I always refer to mine as my progeny

I refer to mine as my descendants, but only one will have the title “heir” - whosever shall scrub my internet search history before their mother sees it.

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Posted
4 hours ago, ElChupacabra said:

I'll be voting for Trump on November 5. Along with many, many others who are tired of being accused of being racist bigots simply because of their political beliefs. 

I'll be voting against Trump on November 5th because of about 85% of this:

Project 2025 envisions widespread changes to economic and social policies and the federal government and its agencies. The plan proposes taking partisan control of the Department of Justice (DOJ), Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), Department of Commerce, Federal Communications Commission (FCC), and Federal Trade Commission (FTC), dismantling the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), and reducing environmental and climate change regulations to favor fossil fuels.[16][19] The blueprint seeks to institute tax cuts,[20] but its writers disagree on protectionism.[21] It recommends abolishing the Department of Education, whose programs would be transferred or terminated.[22][23] Funding for climate research would be cut,[24] and the National Institutes of Health (NIH) would be made less independent, stopped from funding research with embryonic stem cells or using quotas to promote equal participation by women.[25][26] The project seeks to cut Medicare and Medicaid,[27][28] and urges the government to explicitly reject abortion as health care.[29][30] The project seeks to eliminate coverage of emergency contraception[27] and use the Comstock Act to prosecute those who send and receive contraceptives and abortion pills.[30][31] It proposes criminalizing pornography,[32][33] removing legal protections against discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity,[33][34] and terminating diversity, equity, and inclusion(DEI) programs[5][34] and affirmative action[35] by having the DOJ prosecute "anti-white racism".[36] The Project recommends the arrest, detention, and deportation of illegal immigrants living in the country.[37][38][39] It proposes deploying the military for domestic law enforcement.[40] It promotes capital punishment and the speedy "finality" of those sentences.[41][42] 


You may or may not be a racist bigot in your personal dealings with others.  I don't know you, so I have no clue.  But if you know and care for a Latino, an African American, a homosexual, a woman, an elderly person who hasn't attained great wealth or any children who must rely on public schools for their education, then you will be voting for the quality of those people's lives to be reduced.  In my life, that is well above 50% of the people I know and love.

So I would encourage you to think about that between now and November 5th.  Think about the line between your vote to those people you know who would be directly and negatively impacted by the societal changes Trump and his controllers are poised to make.  Consider if their hardship is really what you want to be responsible for ushering forth.

If after such consideration you still feel like such an agenda is what you want to support, then you still may not be a racist or a bigot.  I don't know you, so I have no clue.  But you will have certainly proven to be a sociopath who cares about little beyond yourself.

Is that who you wanted to be when you grew up?

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I skipped a couple of pages and am surprised to see this still going on. 
 

So let me add on by giving a hearty laugh about the 2nd amendment being about defending ourselves against a tyrannical government.  Thats great in the late 18th century and probably all of the 19th, as it would be a pretty fair fight if the numbers allowed. 
 

buuuuuuuut- ever since ww2 for sure, the idea of any amount of the US population taking on the US military and not getting wiped out in days is a f ver dream. And the distance has grown every second of every day since. 
 

There no number of people with AR platforms and no number of full magazines that could do the job, if the army was up for the fight. 
 

And if we are now relying on a big portion of the armed forces to mutiny and point the good stuff back at the government, well then I guess we don’t need the dipshit brigades with their semi-autos and 4” erections getting involved and dying, do we?

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Posted
36 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

Chupacabra is Johnny Sack on his normal Thursday bender. He literally tells all of you here

It’s him

Not even close. While Johnny plays an idiot on TV, he’s nowhere close to a simpleton moron like this guy. 

99% it is immortal13. 

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Posted
30 minutes ago, sidis said:

Not even close. While Johnny plays an idiot on TV, he’s nowhere close to a simpleton moron like this guy. 

99% it is immortal13. 

 

29 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

No it’s Johnny 

You're both wrong. I thought his username, posting style, and arrogant ignorance on full display rang a bell, so I did a quick check of his posting history. He's some idiot younger guy who lives in Arkansas and is absolutely obsessed with the race topic. 

To my knowledge, here's his first appearance in the CR when he previously made a complete ass of himself.

 

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Posted
31 minutes ago, sidis said:

Not even close. While Johnny plays an idiot on TV, he’s nowhere close to a simpleton moron like this guy. 

99% it is immortal13. 

This guy is way more literate and able to keep the schtick going without raging out than immortal could ever be. 

My guess is Poe. Possibly Donkey. Definitely not Sack though.

Posted
1 minute ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Isn't he the guy that is such a piece of shit his own dog committed suicide by running under the tires of his vehicle?

Yeah. That was immortal. That guy always had a screw loose, but he completely lost it after he announced on the board that his daughter (RIP) had passed. He also infamously created a thread about his Whataburger getting stolen from his vehicle in front of some other establishment he'd gone to on his way home. I think he lived in the Tyler area, and I'm fairly certain he's come back (much more chill) and occasionally posts under the HendersonHorns username now.

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Posted
5 minutes ago, bolverk said:

 

You're both wrong. I thought his username, posting style, and arrogant ignorance on full display rang a bell, so I did a quick check of his posting history. He's some idiot younger guy who lives in Arkansas and is absolutely obsessed with the race topic. 

To my knowledge, here's his first appearance in the CR when he previously made a complete ass of himself.

 

thanks. gave me a whole new page to work on. 

 

 

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Posted
5 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

This guy is way more literate and able to keep the schtick going without raging out than immortal could ever be. 

My guess is Poe. Possibly Donkey. Definitely not Sack though.

Poe's in Montgomery County. This Chupacabra kid is pretty consistent in talking about growing up in Oklahoma, which could account for claiming Native heritage, but he now living in Arkansas.

Posted
3 hours ago, ElChupacabra said:

You truly believe that Europeans are responsible for the Trail of Tears? And the forced relocation of Natives to Indian Territory? 

 

This might be the most astonishingly stupid post I've ever read on Surly, and I've read a fair amount of Rex's posts.

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