Lil’Jordan Humphrey

[ztejas 43244]

I think his main issue is his acceleration. If you watch the clip he takes FOREVER to get going. Once he's upright and running and has the ball in his hands his quick enough to gain what is blocked for or potentially make a defender miss in the NFL. His route running will make or break him in the league. Plenty of non-burners have succeeded at the slot, you just have to be physical and have great hands and work your ass off. LJ is capable of all of that. 

[Hook1997 5269]

11 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

i still think an nfl team is getting a late round 'find' with LJH

Yea I hope that team is the Bears, they need a guy like him bad!

[tx 3 putt 76158]

if he's slow, low acceleration and weak, nfl db's are going to blow him up 

[GreenspointTexas 9556]

Said it before and ill say it again:

 

in the eyes of the nfl, dude is currently a 5th round pick at best. Lol at anyone thinking he was gonna be picked in the top 3 round

 

he stays another year here, hes a sure fire 2nd rounder, AT WORST

[TheFlyingBoat 906]

10 minutes ago, Magus Ossis said:

Very late pick by Pats or UFA imo.

That's exactly what I was thinking. I can see a 6th  round pick of him by the Pats

[LTtxfan 48928]

5 minutes ago, ztejas said:

I think his main issue is his acceleration. If you watch the clip he takes FOREVER to get going. Once he's upright and running and has the ball in his hands his quick enough to gain what is blocked for or potentially make a defender miss in the NFL. His route running will make or break him in the league. Plenty of non-burners have succeeded at the slot, you just have to be physical and have great hands and work your ass off. LJ is capable of all of that. 

Great Stuff..... Just found this to make LJH fans feel better....

Anquan Boldin · 40-yard dash time      4.71 seconds

Edited March 2, 2019 by LTtxfan

[Machinator 32097]

That first gauntlet didn't do him any favors.

[Machinator 32097]

5 minutes ago, GreenspointTexas said:

Said it before and ill say it again:

 

in the eyes of the nfl, dude is currently a 5th round pick at best. Lol at anyone thinking he was gonna be picked in the top 3 round

 

he stays another year here, hes a sure fire 2nd rounder, AT WORST

No WRs get drafted in the first two rounds running in the mid-4.7s

Edited March 2, 2019 by Machinator

[Vertigo 20257]

3 minutes ago, GreenspointTexas said:

Said it before and ill say it again:

 

in the eyes of the nfl, dude is currently a 5th round pick at best. Lol at anyone thinking he was gonna be picked in the top 3 round

 

he stays another year here, hes a sure fire 2nd rounder, AT WORST

Do you see him improving his 40 time by .3 seconds in the next year? Speed is not something that will get much better and it is the main knock on him.

[tx 3 putt 76158]

UT pro day will be huge for him 

[GreenspointTexas 9556]

Just now, Dr. Beeper said:

Because his speed improves?  Lulz. He had nothing to gain and a lot to lose by staying. 

He left early to enter into one of the deepesr WR drafts in recent memory. And yes, his speed, strength, numbers, and maybe even size would have been even better. 

 

Kwame Cavil

[Coelenterate Fuccboi 13010]

4 minutes ago, GreenspointTexas said:

He left early to enter into one of the deepesr WR drafts in recent memory. And yes, his speed, strength, numbers, and maybe even size would have been even better. 

 

Kwame Cavil

If you were as smart as you think you are, the world would have quite the treasure.

[cochamps 1875]

9 minutes ago, Dr. Beeper said:

Yeah just like they did to Jerry Rice. 

Yeah, that. Jerry Rice was rally low acceleration.

[Rabidhorn 121]

If he is there in round 4 I can see Dallas drafting him to replace Cole.

[ztejas 43244]

11 minutes ago, Dr. Beeper said:

Yeah just like they did to Jerry Rice. 

Rice is his floor imo

[irishtexan 11442]

24 minutes ago, GreenspointTexas said:

Said it before and ill say it again:

 

in the eyes of the nfl, dude is currently a 5th round pick at best. Lol at anyone thinking he was gonna be picked in the top 3 round

 

he stays another year here, hes a sure fire 2nd rounder, AT WORST

Meh. I don't think coming back for another year changes his measurables substantially. He's never gonna be a 4.5 guy. He could probably improve his bench a little. But I don't see any way he changes the things that make him a 5th round pick enough that he gets drafted in the 2nd round. It's not like he was gonna be MORE productive on the field coming back next year than he was this year. May as well see if you can get drafted or make a roster, start making money, and get to your second contract sooner. 

[Machinator 32097]

LJH's official 40 time is 4.75.

[LTtxfan 48928]

30 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Great Stuff..... Just found this to make LJH fans feel better....

Anquan Boldin · 40-yard dash time      4.71 seconds

 

Correction:  Boldin actually ran 4.77 at the Combine

"Boldin has always been seen as a receiver who relies on his physicality but running a 4.77 40 was still concerning. To put that into perspective, Peyton Manning ran a 4.8 at the 1998 combine. Boldin didn’t show much explosion either when he posted a 33.5-vertical. With questionable athleticism, Boldin dropped to the second round. Then he caught 101 passes for 1,377 yards and eight touchdowns during his rookie year."

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/02/nfl-combine-best-worst-performance-busts-tom-brady-40-time

Edited March 2, 2019 by LTtxfan

[sushihorn 3233]

38 minutes ago, ztejas said:

I think his main issue is his acceleration. If you watch the clip he takes FOREVER to get going. Once he's upright and running and has the ball in his hands his quick enough to gain what is blocked for or potentially make a defender miss in the NFL. His route running will make or break him in the league. Plenty of non-burners have succeeded at the slot, you just have to be physical and have great hands and work your ass off. LJ is capable of all of that. 

He'll be a better WR than most of the guys drafted in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.  The idiot NFL is obsessed with "measurables" because they can't scout for crap.  Any of those Georgia WRs will test better at the combine than LJH just did.  They are fast, strong, run bad routes and drop a lot of balls.  They also are not great at reading defenses, which is LJ's hidden strength.  Notice that he and Sam were on the same page on option routes 95% of the time?  Contrast that with how often Fromm seemed to be throwing to nobody downfield because the WR made a bad (or at least different) read.  LJ also gets open against zones constantly and makes tough catches in traffic.  Combine tells us jack about those truly important attributes.

[LTtxfan 48928]

Running routes during the QB session now, LJH looks unprepared compared to the other WRs.  Anybody know who LJH trained with for the Combine??

[EZ$ 2102]

He’ll be a 5th-6th rounder at best. Had he come back and put another good year on tape and maybe work on his speed and run a 4.65, then he could have been a 3rd rounder maybe. 

[ztejas 43244]

11 minutes ago, Dr. Beeper said:

 

Not what I said and not what I said. Rice was slow and weak. Greenspoint seems to think one can magically improve their speed. They cannot. However they can get injured and hurt their stock. 

LJH is my favorite player in about 10 years and probably 13 years and one of my favs of all time. I hate seeing him go. But it was the right decision. And the class is just as deep next season. 

Cool. Comparing him to Rice is lazy. 

There is Jerry Rice.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Then there is every other WR that has played in the league. 

[ztejas 43244]

44 minutes ago, sushihorn said:

He'll be a better WR than most of the guys drafted in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.  The idiot NFL is obsessed with "measurables" because they can't scout for crap.  Any of those Georgia WRs will test better at the combine than LJH just did.  They are fast, strong, run bad routes and drop a lot of balls.  They also are not great at reading defenses, which is LJ's hidden strength.  Notice that he and Sam were on the same page on option routes 95% of the time?  Contrast that with how often Fromm seemed to be throwing to nobody downfield because the WR made a bad (or at least different) read.  LJ also gets open against zones constantly and makes tough catches in traffic.  Combine tells us jack about those truly important attributes.

I want to beleive this but not having good measurables isn't a good start. 4.75 is slow any way you slice it. He can overcome it or work on his speed but he is going to have to work his ass off to even break the rotation as a rookie.

[cam4mav 770]

LJH is going to go to the patriots in the 5th and proceed to have a wes welker type year.

[Vic Mackey 46919]

2 hours ago, Rabidhorn said:

If he is there in round 4 I can see Dallas drafting him to replace Cole.

I'd be all for that.

[Vic Mackey 46919]

Cool. Comparing him to Rice is lazy. 

There is Jerry Rice.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Then there is every other WR that has played in the league. 

Randy Moss?? Terrell Owens??

 

[ztejas 43244]

16 minutes ago, Dr. Beeper said:

Okay. I only compared him to Jerry Rice in the sense that because LJ is relatively slow (like Rice was) that that doesn’t mean NFL DBs were going to blow him up. 

A smart poster would understand that context. 

[ztejas 43244]

4 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

Randy Moss?? Terrell Owens??

 

Both in the top 5 for sure. #1 isn't even close to a debate. 

[A-Tex Devil 2444]

3 hours ago, GreenspointTexas said:

Said it before and ill say it again:

 

in the eyes of the nfl, dude is currently a 5th round pick at best. Lol at anyone thinking he was gonna be picked in the top 3 round

 

he stays another year here, hes a sure fire 2nd rounder, AT WORST

How are his measurables any better next year if he stays?  He dropped 20 pounds and that’s all he had.   I get wanting him on the team next year, but he’s probably a 3rd-6th rounder next year too based on measurables, which probably aren’t increasing that significantly in a year.  He is what he is and I think there is definitely a place for him in the league. 

[ChickenSandwich 9797]

Should have run the 40 in pads. I’m sure the freak from Ole Miss with 35 career catches is the safer pick. 

[hookem48 4631]

33 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Both in the top 5 for sure. #1 isn't even close to a debate. 

yep, when Michael Irvin calls you Jesus in cleats there's no debate.

[hookem48 4631]

1 hour ago, cam4mav said:

LJH is going to go to the patriots in the 5th and proceed to have a wes welker type year.

well they do prefer 6'4" slow slot guys

[ztejas 43244]

21 minutes ago, Dr. Beeper said:

 

Interesting tactic. Fail to read posts and ascertain context, then be a smartass about it. 

That’s probably 1-3. I’d have a harder time arguing spots 2-5 than determining the all-time #1, which is clearly Rice. 

Interestic tactic. Act like Jerry Rice is an apt comparison to fucking anyone that hasn't played a snap yet. 

Will Grier isn't much of an athlete, but then again, neither is Tom Brady. 

Kerwin Roach is a pothead that never lived up to potential, but then again, Michael Jordan was cut from his freshman team. 

Go fuck a cactus and present better analogies next time. 

[Machinator 32097]

13 reps on the bench for LJH.

33.5 vertical

9'11'' broad jump

4.29 short shuttle

[satyanash 14276]

[Machinator 32097]

7.09 three-cone

[Patrick Bateman 3903]

6 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

is he headed to UFA ?

 

Quite possibly..... this was a really bad weekend for him unless he crushed his interviews, but still....

[satyanash 14276]

5 hours ago, sushihorn said:

He'll be a better WR than most of the guys drafted in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.  The idiot NFL is obsessed with "measurables" because they can't scout for crap.  Any of those Georgia WRs will test better at the combine than LJH just did.

Every WR there tested better than LJH did. He ran the slowest 40 of any WR at the combine this year.

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[SA-KC_Horn 1293]

KC and Mahomes need him 

[CooterBrown 17874]

Losing 20 lbs was probably a mistake. He didn’t have that much fat to lose. Losing muscle that quickly isn’t good for speed or strength development. Probably would’ve dipped under 4.7 and had a couple more reps if he’d just trained his ass off instead of dieting.

[ztejas 43244]

6 minutes ago, CooterBrown said:

Losing 20 lbs was probably a mistake. He didn’t have that much fat to lose. Losing muscle that quickly isn’t good for speed or strength development. Probably would’ve dipped under 4.7 and had a couple more reps if he’d just trained his ass off instead of dieting.

I'd be making 120k if I studied a lot more and majored differently.

[HtownHorn 14446]

Watching him run the 40, you could tell he put little effort into his tranining. That linked tweet showed a horrible start by him. Cost himself some time getting going.

[Burt Macklin 18988]

5 hours ago, LTtxfan said:

Anybody know who LJH trained with for the Combine??

Mary Jane.

[6th Street 6340]

210 lbs, 13 reps, 7.09 3 cone, and 4.79 40?

yeah he's 7th round at best after that

[satyanash 14276]

18 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

Watching him run the 40, you could tell he put little effort into his tranining. That linked tweet showed a horrible start by him. Cost himself some time getting going. 

It really looked like he put no effort towards preparing for the combine. Either that or S&C is a bit lacking. Gary Johnson also didn't have the best day, 16 reps is poor for a LB and his size (5' 11", 226 lbs) is in tweener territory.

[HtownHorn 14446]

Just now, satyanash said:

It really looked like he put no effort towards preparing for the combine. Either that or S&C is a bit lacking. Gary Johnson also didn't have the best day, 16 reps is poor for a LB and his size (5' 11", 226 lbs) is in tweener territory.

I'm really interested in Omenihu and Boyd. Those 2 guys have the most to gain/lose at the combine.

[Cairn Horn88 8148]

2 hours ago, satyanash said:

Every WR there tested better than LJH did. He ran the slowest 40 of any WR at the combine this year.

I understand.  I've watched every game he's played.  Speed ain't everything.  Hope those scouts don't completely hold it against him.  We know what he can do.  Hope he gets a good draft slot and shows what he can do.

[cochamps 1875]

8 hours ago, Dr. Beeper said:

 

Not what I said and not what I said. Rice was slow and weak. Greenspoint seems to think one can magically improve their speed. They cannot. However they can get injured and hurt their stock. 

LJH is my favorite player in about 10 years and probably 13 years and one of my favs of all time. I hate seeing him go. But it was the right decision. And the class is just as deep next season. 

You said Jerry Rice had low acceleration.  That is laughably inaccurate. Just a joke in my opinion.  Acceleration is what made him special.  As far as I’m concerned, the best receiver I’ve seen.

[UcancallmeSurly 451]

At this point bomb the rest of the combine and get that UFA option to sign with the right team/system.