2018 Ryder Cup: USA v. Europe

[HouTex 1878]

There are many reasons for USA's loss, but the common theme with the Ryder Cup over the last 20+ years is that, IMO, the US players are overrated using the World Golf Rankings.  The European Tour is very, very good.  Check out the wiki for the ranking of the tournaments with the most points.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Official_World_Golf_Ranking

They consist of the majors (as it should be) and then the top US tournaments all rank very highly.  For sponsor and TV money the PGA Tour touts itself as by far and away the best tour in the world.  It probably is the best tour, but I don't think it blows away the European Tour.  The European players are great.  IMO, that is the main reason they usually kick our ass.  My view might be different if our losses were fewer and we didn't get blown out as much.  After 1983, our record is 6-11 and we've blown them out (i.e. won by 5 or more points) twice-08 and 16, and they have blown us out 5 times-85, 04, 06, 14, and 18.  They're just damn good overall.

[crash_davis 23113]

5 minutes ago, HouTex said:

There are many reasons for USA's loss, but the common theme with the Ryder Cup over the last 20+ years is that, IMO, the US players are overrated using the World Golf Rankings.  The European Tour is very, very good.  Check out the wiki for the ranking of the tournaments with the most points.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Official_World_Golf_Ranking

They consist of the majors (as it should be) and then the top US tournaments all rank very highly.  For sponsor and TV money the PGA Tour touts itself as by far and away the best tour in the world.  It probably is the best tour, but I don't think it blows away the European Tour.  The European players are great.  IMO, that is the main reason they usually kick our ass.  My view might be different if our losses were fewer and we didn't get blown out as much.  After 1983, our record is 6-11 and we've blown them out (i.e. won by 5 or more points) twice-08 and 16, and they have blown us out 5 times-85, 04, 06, 14, and 18.  They're just damn good overall.

truth.  nothing to do with drama, team chemistry, assholes, wives, etc bull shit.  we just suck compared to the euros. 

 

and fuck patrick reed.  he's a whiny bitch looking to find someone, something else to blame for his poor showing.  oh no, jordan wouldn't play with me cause i'm a dick so i carried a grudge all weekend and fucked up my play.

[taybo20 2877]

Apparently Dustin Johnson and Brooks were trying to fight in the Europe Team room on Sunday night... what a disaster of a team. Showing more fight between each other than on the course 

[phdhorn 6224]

Also, with 1-2 exceptions, the Euros aren't a bunch of prima donnas and actually see the Ryder and all the tradition and team effort as maybe the #1 thing in golf.  Us?  We're always like the beer league softball team - a few bombs but most of the time can't really play the game the way it was intended.

[retread 2951]

Years like this one feel like going to the Pro Bowl. Have some fun, don't roll your knee playing beach volleyball, and play some golf while you're there.

Edited October 2, 2018 by retread

[alincoln 2381]

Many loners, assholes and weirdos on the US team 

 

[Jhawk 1075]

Lady who was hit by the Koepka ball lost her eye.  Plans on suing the organizers of the event.  "Scans revealed and orbital fracture and exploded eyeball."

Hopefully that doesn't destroy Koepka's confidence and derail his career.

[APMP 688]

That's awful.

[Goodman 3273]

38 minutes ago, Jhawk said:

Lady who was hit by the Koepka ball lost her eye.  Plans on suing the organizers of the event.  "Scans revealed and orbital fracture and exploded eyeball."

Hopefully that doesn't destroy Koepka's confidence and derail his career.

He'll send her a signed glove and never think about it again. 

[conVINCEd 21469]

So, was this a normal shot that went astray, or did he shank one and hit someone 10 ft away?

[bigup2dahorns 3343]

Apparently Dustin Johnson and Brooks were trying to fight in the Europe Team room on Sunday night...

Golf channel:


U.S. Ryder Cup teammates and close friends Dustin Johnson and Brooks Koepka almost came to blows while visiting their opponent's team room after Europe's 17 1/2-to-10 1/2 drubbing of the U.S. side, according to multiple published reports.

Johnson and Koepka had to be separated, according to witnesses cited in an article in The Telegraph by longtime golf writer James Corrigan.

The source of the friction was not known, and the dust-up was considered unusual because Johnson and Koepka appear to have a very close relationship. They often work out together at trainer Joey Diovisalvi's Joey D Golf Performance Center in Jupiter, Fla.

Johnson and Koepka partnered in the Saturday afternoon foursomes, when they lost to Justin Rose and Henrik Stenson.

Johnson's fiancee, Paulina Gretzky, was reported to have been close by when the alleged incident happened. One of the European players’ wives also was a witness, according to The Telegraph, which also said that "an insider" reported that she was “clearly shocked and upset by the nastiness, which was very threatening."

[taybo20 2877]

Also the lady that got hit by Koepka’s errant shot on Friday is suing the Ryder cup

[crash_davis 23113]

18 minutes ago, taybo20 said:

Also the lady that got hit by Koepka’s errant shot on Friday is suing the Ryder cup

an eye for an eye?

[crash_davis 23113]

[conVINCEd 21469]

35 minutes ago, bigup2dahorns said:

 

Golf channel:


U.S. Ryder Cup teammates and close friends Dustin Johnson and Brooks Koepka almost came to blows while visiting their opponent's team room after Europe's 17 1/2-to-10 1/2 drubbing of the U.S. side, according to multiple published reports.

Johnson and Koepka had to be separated, according to witnesses cited in an article in The Telegraph by longtime golf writer James Corrigan.

The source of the friction was not known, and the dust-up was considered unusual because Johnson and Koepka appear to have a very close relationship. They often work out together at trainer Joey Diovisalvi's Joey D Golf Performance Center in Jupiter, Fla.

Johnson and Koepka partnered in the Saturday afternoon foursomes, when they lost to Justin Rose and Henrik Stenson.

Johnson's fiancee, Paulina Gretzky, was reported to have been close by when the alleged incident happened. One of the European players’ wives also was a witness, according to The Telegraph, which also said that "an insider" reported that she was “clearly shocked and upset by the nastiness, which was very threatening."

 

Koepka would pummel DJ.  

Edited October 2, 2018 by conVINCEd

[LTtxfan 49247]

Issue between Koepka and DJ may be something related to the girlfriends?

 "This (Koepka/DJ) incident occurred at a party on the European team room side, according to Corrigan. His report has been confirmed by multiple outlets on both sides of the Atlantic. Each report characterizes the incident as the two (Koepka/DJ)  “having to be separated.” 

A Golf Digest report on Tuesday cited a source saying Paulina Gretzy, DJ’s fiancee, was a “central figure in the incident” and that Koepka’s girlfriend was also involved.

The report from L’Équipe, a French newspaper, describes an incident on the plane ride over to the Ryder Cup. The report also added that captain Jim Furyk had to talk to both players and ask them to get over the issue and put the team first."

GIRL FIGHT....

Edited October 2, 2018 by LTtxfan

[crash_davis 23113]

supposedly dustin and paulina are having issues.  she removed from her instagram any pics of dustin.

 

HOWEVER, she did have this pic in her instagram.  fucking LULZ.

 

 

Edited October 2, 2018 by crash_davis

[Sbbruin 21861]

^^

[Jhawk 1075]

DJ needs to get his personal life in order. Funny how tiger shit the bed with his wife, Rory got a hardcore Girlfriend and started to shit the bed on the course, and I would guess that DJ is going to shit the bed as well. I feel like he could be a dominant #1 in the world if he would lay if the coke and the whoring, or just dump Paulina. I can’t for the life of me understand why these young guys would even fuck with a spouse while they’re in their prime or entering their prime. 

[bigup2dahorns 3343]

Koepka would pummel DJ.  

Undercard for the Tiger/Phil match in Vegas or main event?

[conVINCEd 21469]

3 minutes ago, bigup2dahorns said:

 

Undercard for the Tiger/Phil match in Vegas or main event?

 

I’d go main event, and I would purchase the ppv.

[crash_davis 23113]

18 minutes ago, Jhawk said:

DJ needs to get his personal life in order. Funny how tiger shit the bed with his wife, Rory got a hardcore Girlfriend and started to shit the bed on the course, and I would guess that DJ is going to shit the bed as well. I feel like he could be a dominant #1 in the world if he would lay if the coke and the whoring, or just dump Paulina. I can’t for the life of me understand why these young guys would even fuck with a spouse while they’re in their prime or entering their prime. 

i hear you, but got damn, she would be a fun ride.  i think i could forsake other women for awhile for her.

 

Edited October 2, 2018 by crash_davis

[Jhawk 1075]

The tough part would be getting an erection ever again once you started fucking not-perfect 10s. 

[NOMAAA 1696]

1 minute ago, Jhawk said:

The tough part would be getting an erection ever again once you started fucking not-perfect 10s. 

not that hard.

[crash_davis 23113]

8 minutes ago, NOMAAA said:

not that hard.

i think that's what jhawk was saying.  it would not be that hard.

[ConferenceRoom 6144]

Hardly.

[LTtxfan 49247]

1 hour ago, bigup2dahorns said:

 

Undercard for the Tiger/Phil match in Vegas or main event?

 

Are the girlfriends part of the undercard......

 

 

 

                                                             VS.

 

 

Edited October 2, 2018 by LTtxfan

[AustinMT 952]

The beatdown, then Patrick Reed (and wife), and now the Bash Brothers' cat fight

 

Edited October 2, 2018 by AustinMT

[Sbbruin 21861]

So has it been confirmed that Patrick Reed is really just a little bitch?

[4th&Five 41558]

Long ago. 

[LTtxfan 49247]

Wonder why Jordan wouldn't want to partner with Patrick...... 

 

[bigup2dahorns 3343]

So has it been confirmed that Patrick Reed is really just a little bitch?

NY Post:

When the US Ryder Cup team’s chartered jet from France arrived in Atlanta on Monday afternoon, word of Patrick Reed’s published rant about being “blindsided’’ by captain Jim Furyk not pairing him with Jordan Spieth had circulated and left some team members livid at his audacity.

One member of Team USA was shocked when he saw Reed complaining about not being paired with Spieth.

“He is so full of s–t,’’ the source told The Post on Monday. “Blindsided my ass. He begged to play with Tiger.’’

“He would have shot 83 on his own ball Saturday,’’ the source said. “He totally screwed Tiger. He has no clue how to play team golf. I saw firsthand how bad of a team player he was. Eleven players understood the concept of team golf and only one didn’t. Unfortunately, that one proved to be too costly for the team to overcome.

“I feel so bad for Jim, because he was an unreal captain. He would have run through a wall for all 12 of the guys. Unfortunately, there were only 11 players that would have returned the favor.’’

[Sbbruin 21861]

So the answer is "yes."

[smwhorn 482]

hope this works.

a link to the video shown to the Euros the night before the RC started.

https://www.golfchannel.com/article/golf-central-blog/watch-video-inspired-team-europe/

[Sbbruin 21861]

Well shit, I would have run through as wall after watching that.

[LTtxfan 49247]

PGA players don't like Reed.....

"A year later, ESPN asked 103 professional golfers which of their fellow pros they'd be least likely to help out in a fight. Reed came second. "

Here's a good background on some of Reed's issues in the past....... Seems to be "The Villain" of the PGA....

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/golf/article-5593675/Patrick-Reed-Masters-champion-surrounded-controversy.html

.

[LTtxfan 49247]

14 minutes ago, smwhorn said:

hope this works.

a link to the video shown to the Euros the night before the RC started.

https://www.golfchannel.com/article/golf-central-blog/watch-video-inspired-team-europe/

Great Stuff..... here's the Tweet

 

[TonyTexas 10516]

PGA players don't like Reed.....
"A year later, ESPN asked 103 professional golfers which of their fellow pros they'd be least likely to help out in a fight. Reed came second. "
Here's a good background on some of Reed's issues in the past....... Seems to be "The Villain" of the PGA....
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/golf/article-5593675/Patrick-Reed-Masters-champion-surrounded-controversy.html
.

I think Bubba came in 1st. Furyk should have paired them up.

[Revolution512 1487]

All of that horseshit comes out when you lose. They played awful, nothing else matters. Unless you’re Reed. Because it could never be him.

[Austin Orange 98]

9 hours ago, taybo20 said:

Also the lady that got hit by Koepka’s errant shot on Friday is suing the Ryder cup

She needs to keep an eye out next time.

[LTtxfan 49247]

14 minutes ago, Austin Orange said:

She needs to keep an eye out next time.

Noticed your 99 Negs.....

 

Edited October 3, 2018 by LTtxfan

[Firemans4Horn 18106]

US has a really unlikeable team top to bottom. With an unlikeable coach. Congrats to the Euros. 

[LTtxfan 49247]

2 hours ago, Sbbruin said:

So has it been confirmed that Patrick Reed is really just a little bitch?

Yup..... And his wife???  Well, you can decide.....

Edited October 3, 2018 by LTtxfan

[APMP 688]

Should have left everybody except Finau back in Paris

[LTtxfan 49247]

7 minutes ago, APMP said:

Should have left everybody except Finau back in Paris

Justin Thomas had a great Ryder Cup..... 4 Wins & 1 Loss.

Spieth was ok except for a terrible Singles Match... 3 Wins & 2 Losses

[APMP 688]

Justin Thomas had a great Ryder Cup..... 4 Wins & 1 Loss.
Spieth was ok except for a terrible Singles Match... 3 Wins & 2 Losses

Good point, JT can come too, and Jordan can carry bags while thinking about how he'll be better at singles

[smwhorn 482]

12 hours ago, LTtxfan said:

Yup..... And his wife???  Well, you can decide.....

I know the players and captains don't get paid.  But who pays for stuff like this?  The fancy parties, all their food/lodging etc?  All those outfits?

[alincoln 2381]

11 hours ago, LTtxfan said:

Justin Thomas had a great Ryder Cup..... 4 Wins & 1 Loss.

Spieth was ok except for a terrible Singles Match... 3 Wins & 2 Losses

Simpson met/exceeded expectations by going 2-1 with a win in singles over Justin Rose.  

JT was excellent, Finau basically matched Simpson and Spieth was OK.  The rest of the team should be guillotined.  

[TonyTexas 10516]

I know the players and captains don't get paid.  But who pays for stuff like this?  The fancy parties, all their food/lodging etc?  All those outfits?

For instance, according to the 2016 list, players get "$7,500 to cover out-of-pocket expenses, including spouse/partner's dress and accessories for the Team Welcome Dinner."
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/this-long-list-of-ryder-cup-perks-for-players-caddies-and-significant-others-is-pretty-amazing

[sidis 9832]

trip report:

1) le golf national is a beautiful course and it was a beautiful few days...perfect for golf save for some serious afternoon wind.  course is bizarrely laid out but i was impressed with how many sight lines there were with all those people there.  and there were a lot of fucking people there.  fairways were narrow as fuck and i think i remember seeing fewer than 10 driver shots the entire time...total.  that completely neutralized a few player advantages we had.  definitely intend to play that course next time i am in paris.

2) outside of justin thomas, jordan until sunday, and webb fucking simpson out of nowhere, and finau on sunday, the entire team fucking sucked.  i was particularly disappointed in dj, brooks, fowler, reed, and tiger.  as i have said many times, lumpy fucking sucks and was a total waste of a pick, bubba was meh, and bryson couldn't buy a putt if his life depended on it.  they all looked like shit and seemed to be letting the moment get to them.  they also had no animation whatsoever.  j.t. was the only guy on the team really giving it back to the crowd while all of the euro players were eating it up and heavy on crowd interaction.  our guys looked "overly" focused and like they didn't want to be there.

3) euro guys were definitely feeling it and were way more comfortable.  scrubs like poulter and hatton were hitting miracle shots.  on top of that, their studs (molinari, rose, rahm, fleetwood) were on point.  hats off to them.  they were huge on the putting green and we were not.

4) there were a trillion people there.  us had a good fan presence.  i figured it would be 10% and it was more like 20%.  the euro fans were definitely loud and into it.  no matter where you were on the course, you knew when the euros hit a huge putt because it sounded like a college football roar from a mile away.  i was surprised at the lack of representation from continental europe.  there was a decent french presence just because they were hosts but 75% or more of the euro fans were english/scottish.  fucking everywhere and fucking drunk as shit.  they were fun.  no italians, spanish, german, austrian, and just a few scandanavians for their two nords and dane.  english/scottish fans fucking love them some rory and fleetwood.

5) we got rocked, no two ways about it.  but there were a few really good matches.  i was with some tiger fanboys so we followed him for a while but he sucked so i peeled off to watch jt and jordan most rounds.  was loving jt's energy as he was there to win.  couldn't believe how docile and lame brooks and dj were.  rickie looked like a junior high kid that knew he didn't belong the whole time.  just happy to be there.

6) good times all around but was definitely irritated at the lack of intensity and competitiveness from our team.  seemed like they were on vacation. 

just a few pix...