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It wasn’t pretty, but football in Manhattan, Kansas rarely is. Texas jumped out to a commanding 19-0 lead, then held on down the final stretch for the 19-14 win at Bill Snyder Family Stadium on Saturday. Here are my Five Quick Thoughts following UT’s win over Kansas State. 
1. Texas gets points in different ways. 
The Horns put up points in four ways on Saturday. UT opened up the scoring with a D’Shawn Jamison 90-yard punt return. Then Collin Johnson caught a 4-yard fade from Sam Ehlinger for six. Charles Omenihu was next with a safety of Kansas State QB Alex Delton. And Cameron Dicker drilled a 28-yard field goal as well. That’s a rare, but nice balance.
To win on the road in Manhattan, it takes all you can get.
2. Sam Ehlinger continues to improve. 
After a first half stat line – 17 of 22, 115, 1 TD, 2 receptions – he completed passes to ten different receivers, including one to himself off a tipped ball. He also caught a pass from RB Tre Watson. He finished 29 of 36, 207 yards, one TD. But it was his game management with 6:20 left in the contest that sealed it. His 3rd down and 11 strike to Collin Johnson for 13 yards was ginormous. His QB Power was big time.
[http://insidetexas]He currently has completed 128 consecutive passes without an interception, the 6th longest streak in school history. It was another week of zero turnovers. He missed on some big shots downfield early in the contest, yet again made sure Texas was in victory formation.
3. Texas shows toughness when K-State got tough. 
KSU’s Alex Delton wasn’t effective in the first half, but former starter Skylar Thompson led an 82-yard drive and score to open the second half. Then he led a 16-play, 70-yard scoring march, converting two 4th downs, early in the fourth quarter. But when they needed it the most, the defense made the stops and the offense controlled the ball.
UT rotated the defensive line early in the contest. After Omenihu-Nelson-Hager, it was Graham-Wilbon-Bimage. It kept the d-line fresh. Omenihu was a maniac in the first half with three TFLs, one sack, and one safety (five total, three TFL, two sacks). And Breckyn Hager made the plays in the 2nd half.
Hager has not played up to expectations this season, and he’d admit as much, but his 2nd half was huge. One sack, three hurries, and one batted ball was probably the play of the game. It gave Texas the ball back and they did what they’ve been doing all year – finishing games.
Then the offense puts it in cruise. Heavy doses of Keaontay Ingram, who averaged 6.5 ypc, was imperative. If he’s fully healthy, he needs more than 10 GD carries. Give the offensive line credit, they are improving. Give Andrew Beck credit, when he’s not harassing opponents before kickoff, he’s snagging four catches. Give Collin Johnson credit, he made plays when the ball arrived.
4. The penalties are adding up. 
One of the negatives of UT’s 2018 season have been dumb penalties. After seven for 80 yards in the first half, Texas was lucky K-State didn’t capitalize. UT had 10 yellow flags for 104 yards. K-State didn’t commit a penalty all day, which is a damn joke, Big 12 Conference.
The pass interference calls, good and bad, were killers. Kris Boyd had his worst day as a senior. Overall, you might beat a mediocre team like the Wildcats with these fouls. But you won’t win the Big 12. And you probably don’t beat OU next week either.
Some of the penalties are warranted; intense, aggressive play breeds that. But the others can kill you. Texas must clean up this part of the season.

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Collin Johnson. (Will Gallagher/IT)

5. It’s never easy in Manhattan. 
I guess there’s a reason Texas hadn’t won at Kansas State since the early 2000s. So many things went UT’s way. They held KSU to 217 total yards. The Wildcats couldn’t complete a 1-yard pass to end the first half, giving UT it’s first 1st half shutout at Bill Snyder Family Stadium ever.
K-State always punches above weight in Manhattan, KS. Snyder always makes adjustments you have to account for.
But at the end of the day, a win is a win. And sometimes it pays to be lucky.
Of note: OU is next. Let’s get crazy.

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I guess we were trying to lull gooner into a false sense of security when they watch the replay:

Boyd is good fo either a big play or penalties, OL has regressed to space occupying lesions,

we tend to drift away from high performing playmakers.....sneaky Tom.....

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8 minutes ago, jw4381 said:

Dudes can't sing for shit. 

Who cares? Just stay on the left side of the W/L ledger. They ain’t come to play singin’.

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According to Coach, Jones is the PR on the "safe" return team, which they use when they have a lead and are fielding a punt near the goal line. He says Jones makes better veteran decisions on when and not to call a fair catch. It makes sense.


Jones is “Mr Fair Catch at the 5 YL”
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I guess we were trying to lull gooner into a false sense of security when they watch the replay:
Boyd is good fo either a big play or penalties, OL has regressed to space occupying lesions,
we tend to drift away from high performing playmakers.....sneaky Tom.....

But your drinking is still going well, yeah?
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46 minutes ago, BigVegasHorn26 said:

You have to mix it in occasionally for this offense to work.  

The problem is it's literally the only play that Jamison knows. Can't wait for Jake Smithhipley to be running that play next year.

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17 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Jones is “Mr Fair Catch at the 5 YL”

 

with the new rules, and our CONTINUED inability to return any fucking kickoff beyond the 25 yard line without getting a stupid fucking penalty,  I have no fucking problem at all with starting at the 25.  Hell, I actively want us to do that.

 

I am sick and tired of starting at the 10-15 yard line or deeper because we ran the ball back to the 25 yet got a holding called on us at the 20. 

 

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Anyone else disturbed by the fact that we ran the same two plays to start the last 3 drives?  Our receivers are dangerous down field, is it not time to put Shane in for a few series a game to try and exploit that?

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Just now, Hook1997 said:

Anyone else disturbed by the fact that we ran the same two plays on first and second down to start the last 3 drives?  Our receivers are dangerous down field, is it not time to put Shane in for a few series a game to try and exploit that?

 

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1 hour ago, JBJ said:

That one KState player in the black stripes killed us all game.

I’m not sure we didn’t do this to ourselves. First 6 or 7 penalties were legit and happened pretty rapid-fire in Q1.  Makes the refs think a certain way and start looking for things.  

That and the fact that we absolutely got home-towned. 

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1 minute ago, Liquor and Poker said:

I’m not sure we didn’t do this to ourselves. First 6 or 7 penalties were legit and happened pretty rapid-fire in Q1.  Makes the refs think a certain way and start looking for things.  

That and the fact that we absolutely got home-towned. 

Think HORNS caught a break on the nullifying penalties of holding on K.Boyd and offensive pass interference on KState....

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We were out coached big time but fortunately we had enough talent to pull out the win 

Really? Was it great coaching to start Delton instead of Thompson? Better coaching to get them a 19-0 deficit with 76 yards offense in the first half? Better coaching to score a whopping 14 points, or maybe the 200 total yards of offense?

Give me a break
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Offensive points scored against Kansas State defense - West Virginia - 35, Miss State - 31, South Dakota Coyotes - 24, UTSA - 17, The fighting Sam Ehlinger's - 10.
 
 
 
 

That’s about the same number of times your mom gave it up last weekend
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33 minutes ago, TexasFan21 said:

4-1. It’s been awhile boys.

Anyone think we get College Gameday in Dallas next weekend?

Sounds like, despite it being on Fox, it's a near guarantee. Fox is having their pregame show there as well. Eyes of the world are on Texas again, y'all.

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5 minutes ago, texifornia said:

Sounds like, despite it being on Fox, it's a near guarantee. Fox is having their pregame show there as well. Eyes of the world are on Texas again, y'all.

Either way, Fox is definitely having a pregame show at the Fair.

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6 minutes ago, TreatyOak said:

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I assume you're 12 because nobody with any legitimate perspective would feel this way. Go look at K State's record before that man got there. He literally made that program and has the right to coach it as long as he wants barring a Paterno situation (which will never happen with him).

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20 minutes ago, texifornia said:

Sounds like, despite it being on Fox, it's a near guarantee. Fox is having their pregame show there as well. Eyes of the world are on Texas again, y'all.

Flordia got the win. Ranked Flordia vs #5 LSU might get the Gameday Trip.

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4 minutes ago, IDIOTsavant said:

I assume you're 12 because nobody with any legitimate perspective would feel this way. Go look at K State's record before that man got there. He literally made that program and has the right to coach it as long as he wants barring a Paterno situation (which will never happen with him).

That's what they said about Joe Paterno too.

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Just now, UDontKnow said:

That's what they said about Joe Paterno too.

That's what Joe Paterno said. He worked really hard to create that narrative. Snyder tries to deflect attention. They don't equate at all in my mind.

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Hager Harbour himself a 2nd half,  and he was getting held most of the game. Even my 70 year old dad with bad eyesight was yelling st the screen for a flag most of the game. It was a joke thT they never called KState for a penalty, but it is what it is. Fuck em. 

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That second half was ugly as fuck but this team did what they needed to do to win in the fourth. 5 points is also our biggest win ever in Manhattan. I'm happy

Fuck OU
Biggest win ever in Manhattan belongs to this man.02448db91d333cc3e886343ed82d4fb5.jpg
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47 minutes ago, hornian said:

Hager Harbour himself a 2nd half,  and he was getting held most of the game. Even my 70 year old dad with bad eyesight was yelling st the screen for a flag most of the game. It was a joke thT they never called KState for a penalty, but it is what it is. Fuck em. 

It aint gonna get any better next week. 

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Herman needs to reinvent the wheel on offense. Same fucking 4 plays over and over at the end there was miserable. Bubble, dive, rb bubble, slant

The slant is relatively new to this program. Anything near the middle of the field is new this year.
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Offensive points scored against Kansas State defense - West Virginia - 35, Miss State - 31, South Dakota Coyotes - 24, UTSA - 17, The fighting Sam Ehlinger's - 10.
 
 
 
 

So they’ve improved as the year has gone along?
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By this definition, OU just destroyed Baylor with their backup QB.
Thompson has pretty much been K-State's starting QB all season, but Delton's gotten some snaps here and there.

Murray was in after the first series
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1 hour ago, IDIOTsavant said:

I assume you're 12 because nobody with any legitimate perspective would feel this way. Go look at K State's record before that man got there. He literally made that program and has the right to coach it as long as he wants barring a Paterno situation (which will never happen with him).

There may not be a greater coach in the history of college football. I cannot think of another coach that took a worse program to as much success as Snyder. IIRC, K-State literally was the worse D-1 program before Snyder, and the university was about to shut it down. Snyder turned the Wildcats in the NC contenders for a few years and consistently a Big 8 / XII power.

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17 minutes ago, Kyle said:

There may not be a greater coach in the history of college football. I cannot think of another coach that took a worse program to as much success as Snyder. IIRC, K-State literally was the worse D-1 program before Snyder, and the university was about to shut it down. Snyder turned the Wildcats in the NC contenders for a few years and consistently a Big 8 / XII power.

/csb/ My Econ 100 prof played at K-State in the late 60’s when they were the worst team in the Big 8, maybe all of NCAA. Despite their shitiness (or maybe because?) he has amazing stories about orgies and ridiculous shenanigans during his recruiting visit. He also went to St. Mark’s, had scholarships to play in the Ivies but just wanted to play in the Big 8. /csb/

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