It might be worth it to track the degree to which views of Trump change over time, especially among the true believers:

Yahoo News

NEW POLL: TWICE as Many Americans Think Trump Is ‘Racist’...

Americans believe Trump is racist than think he is not by 2 to 1, even as Trump and his White House protest what they call "false" accusations of racism.

By a two-to-one margin, more Americans believe that President Donald Trump is racist than think he is not.

According to a new The Economist/YouGov poll taken February 13 – 16, 2026, an overwhelming majority of Americans who have an opinion on the issue disagree with Trump, Leavitt, and [Mike] Tyson.

Asked if the word “racist” describes Trump, 47 percent agreed it does versus only 24 percent who said it does not, with the remainder responding “no opinion.”

There’s more. The pollster tested a series of descriptors, and it did not go well. By about two to one, Americans do not view Trump as “honest,” but do view him as “corrupt,” “divisive,” “cruel,” and “out of touch.”

Wide pluralities said Trump is not “inspiring” (43 percent to 19 percent) or “intelligent” (39 percent to 31 percent).

More than double — 50 percent to 20 percent — said he’s “dangerous” versus those who say he is not.

wtf does Mike Tyson have to do with anything

and also...duh

Edited February 20Feb 20 by mchookem

Trump proved without a doubt he was racist almost 40 years ago with the central park 5. The majority of Americans were just too ignorant and stupid to know that.

Every single current headline about Donald Trump's character could have been published in the early 2000's and nobody would have batted an eye. He is exactly who we all thought he was before The Apprentice propaganda and his political run broke some people's memories.

His ability to control the story and the stories he tells about himself are so powerful though... heck when I was in Italy recently a local and I were discussing state of events here. She even added the qualifier of "other than being a successful businessman" how can you Americans vote for him? 🙃

Just what we need. Another thread on Trump!

He posted a video of the Obamas as apes and refused to apologize because he didn’t think he did anything wrong. Yeah I think he might be racist.

Just now, Red Five said:

He posted a video of the Obamas as apes and refused to apologize because he didn’t think he did anything wrong. Yeah I think he might be racist.

So much insane shit has happened over the last 48 hours I forgot about that.

Generations from now people are going to look back at us and wonder "how did people live their lives through that." The same way we look at people who lived through The Plague.

11 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

So much insane shit has happened over the last 48 hours I forgot about that.

Generations from now people are going to look back at us and wonder "how did people live their lives through that." The same way we look at people who lived through The Plague.

Yeah, the president posted a video of Obama as apes, then his press secretary told everyone to shut the fuck up about it, because there's nothing wrong with that. Then the president said the same. And that was the end of the story.

It's like we're all living through an episodic tv show. That horrific episode ended, then everything reset, and we moved onto the next episode where Trump raped a 13 year-old.

Across 24 countries, a median of 34% of adults have a lot or some confidence in U.S. President Donald Trump to do the right thing regarding world affairs. Around six-in-ten (62%) have little or no confidence in Trump.

Pew Research Center

Confidence in Trump

Across 24 nations, a median of 34% have confidence in Trump, while 62% do not. Trump receives lower ratings than Biden did in many countries surveyed.

• Trump’s highest ratings come from Nigeria (79% confidence), Israel (69%), Kenya (64%), Hungary (53%) and India (52%).

• Trump’s lowest ratings come from Mexico (8% confidence), Sweden (15%), Turkey (16%), Germany (18%), and Spain (19%).

• In 17 countries, confidence in Trump is higher among men than women.

• Trump is seen more positively among those on the ideological right and among supporters of European right-wing populist parties.

• Ratings of Trump are lower than 2024 ratings of Biden in 13 nations but higher in six countries. And in most of the countries where trends are available, confidence in Trump is higher now than at the start of his first term in 2017.

There's a compilation vid out there (maybe even posted here on Shag²) with MULTIPLE current Trump Administration butt-sniffers calling him a racist, Nazi, horrible for the economy, etc.

https://www.tiktok.com/@msnow/video/7378591274556755243

I find his approval rating stupefying. How the hell can it still be 36%?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Qxh9KJY0mEs

2 minutes ago, Satchel said:

I find his approval rating stupefying. How the hell can it still be 36%?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Qxh9KJY0mEs

You obviously have WAY too much (undeserved) faith in humanity (& Americans in particular).

“It’s almost as low as Biden’s!!”

I WOULD FUCKING HOPE SO. JESUS FUCKING CHRIST.

24 minutes ago, Satchel said:

I find his approval rating stupefying. How the hell can it still be 36%?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Qxh9KJY0mEs

Yeah, a solid 30% are gonna be with him even if he brings slavery back. Not sure why this shocks you.

Especially if he brings slavery back.

3 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Especially if he brings slavery back.

NGL, if we put up MAGAts for sale, I might consider buying one for the lulz. I did it to literally own the MAGAts would be top notch.

A certain percentage of the US are objectively horrible, garbage people

A percentage of the US, a high percentage, are stupid people incapable of nuanced, rational thought.

A percentage of the US are completely ignorant of anything happening outside their very small capability of physical perception, and they're perfectly happy to be this ignorant. They only take notice of anything that directly impacts them, but are almost always too uneducated to adequately figure out the correct root cause.

There's a ton of overlap between these groups.

Also, I believe there's some bias in much of the polling. There's a reluctance to report outlier numbers out of fear of being wrong, no matter what their results say.

It's best to look at polling as an aggregate, and to get a range. So if you take the most historically credible polls and they range from about 28 to 36 percent? Most likely the truth is anywhere from 20 to 40 percent.

10 hours ago, Hermanator said:

A certain percentage of the US are objectively horrible, garbage people

A percentage of the US, a high percentage, are stupid people incapable of nuanced, rational thought.

A percentage of the US are completely ignorant of anything happening outside their very small capability of physical perception, and they're perfectly happy to be this ignorant. They only take notice of anything that directly impacts them, but are almost always too uneducated to adequately figure out the correct root cause.

There's a ton of overlap between these groups.

Also, I believe there's some bias in much of the polling. There's a reluctance to report outlier numbers out of fear of being wrong, no matter what their results say.

It's best to look at polling as an aggregate, and to get a range. So if you take the most historically credible polls and they range from about 28 to 36 percent? Most likely the truth is anywhere from 20 to 40 percent.

User ID, etc.

16 hours ago, Satchel said:

I find his approval rating stupefying. How the hell can it still be 36%?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Qxh9KJY0mEs

Fox News.

15 hours ago, Hermanator said:

There's a reluctance to report outlier numbers out of fear of being wrong, no matter what their results say.

Except that dumbass in Iowa leading up to the presidential election.

16 hours ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Yeah, a solid 30% are gonna be with him even if he brings slavery back. Not sure why this shocks you.

That might bring back a few of those who've turned on him recently. I seriously wonder if some small amount of the approval rating he's lost is from hardcore OAN folks who think he's being too much of a pussy.

17 hours ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Yeah, a solid 30% are gonna be with him even if he brings slavery back. Not sure why this shocks you.

You mean "kills 50 million black people" because that genie isn't going back in the bottle.

17 hours ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Yeah, a solid 30% are gonna be with him even if he brings slavery back. Not sure why this shocks you.

And another 20% would still vote for him because trans and DEI and soshulism.

16 hours ago, Hermanator said:

A certain percentage of the US are objectively horrible, garbage people

A percentage of the US, a high percentage, are stupid people incapable of nuanced, rational thought.

A percentage of the US are completely ignorant of anything happening outside their very small capability of physical perception, and they're perfectly happy to be this ignorant. They only take notice of anything that directly impacts them, but are almost always too uneducated to adequately figure out the correct root cause.

There's a ton of overlap between these groups.

I would say this is, sadly, well over 50% probably approaching 60-65%.

22 minutes ago, 'stache said:

And another 20% would still vote for him because trans and DEI and soshulism.

Another 23% think he's a racist liar but can't be bothered to vote.

24 minutes ago, 'stache said:

And another 20% would still vote for him because trans and DEI and soshulism.

None of which they understand. Nor that affect them in any way (unless they’re farmers receiving a handout). They just know they hate them.

My dad: "Trump's for the little guy."

The man has a master's degree. Jfc

18 hours ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Yeah, a solid 30% are gonna be with him even if he brings slavery back. Not sure why this shocks you.

17 hours ago, Red Five said:

Especially if he brings slavery back.

There it is. And, I mean, y'all laugh. But there are two ACTUAL schools of thought that are stewing around in the Regime right now. One is that the 13th amendment just isn't a real and valid thing. So, slavery is just fine. The other is to accept the 13th, but exploit the "but you can use prisoners for slave labor." The vision there is (1) incarcerate a shitload of "illegals" (note that with no due process anymore, there's no way to determine of someone in one of the new, sprawling "Detention Camps" really is illegal, or is just detained and disappeared), (2) use those people as a massive, cheap labor force (that is, the feds will "lease out" that prisoner labor to large businesses (that just HAPPEN to donate lots of money to Trump, siphon money to Trump businesses, etc.) for a few bucks an hour - the result being that you have functional slave labor, the private companies running the detention centers get an extra revenue stream, and the donor class gets a huge labor pool working at below-market prices).

If you don't see that coming, you aren't paying attention. Note that we're building MASSIVE detention centers for "illegals." We're not planning to deport millions. We're planning to hold them captive and use them.

52 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

You mean "kills 50 million black people" because that genie isn't going back in the bottle.

It's ok, friend. I think that this time, the primary target for enslavement will be hispanics. Don't worry, though. The cops will still keep shooting black folks, and in fact will ramp WAY up, because not only does the DOJ not have any interest in prosecuting such actions, it is actively working to assist law enforcement in becoming MORE lawless and able to act entirely outside the law with no consequences. We'll all get ours, one way or the other.

15 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

There it is. And, I mean, y'all laugh. But there are two ACTUAL schools of thought that are stewing around in the Regime right now. One is that the 13th amendment just isn't a real and valid thing. So, slavery is just fine. The other is to accept the 13th, but exploit the "but you can use prisoners for slave labor." The vision there is (1) incarcerate a shitload of "illegals" (note that with no due process anymore, there's no way to determine of someone in one of the new, sprawling "Detention Camps" really is illegal, or is just detained and disappeared), (2) use those people as a massive, cheap labor force (that is, the feds will "lease out" that prisoner labor to large businesses (that just HAPPEN to donate lots of money to Trump, siphon money to Trump businesses, etc.) for a few bucks an hour - the result being that you have functional slave labor, the private companies running the detention centers get an extra revenue stream, and the donor class gets a huge labor pool working at below-market prices).

If you don't see that coming, you aren't paying attention. Note that we're building MASSIVE detention centers for "illegals." We're not planning to deport millions. We're planning to hold them captive and use them.

It's ok, friend. I think that this time, the primary target for enslavement will be hispanics. Don't worry, though. The cops will still keep shooting black folks, and in fact will ramp WAY up, because not only does the DOJ not have any interest in prosecuting such actions, it is actively working to assist law enforcement in becoming MORE lawless and able to act entirely outside the law with no consequences. We'll all get ours, one way or the other.

DING DING DING DING! Don't forget that they are paying well above market value to buy these warehouses. Many of which were bought by Trump donors 1-2 years prior to DHS buying them and overpaying for them.

A Russian oligarch got into some of that sweet warehouse money in the south. A person here provided the story.

38 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

There it is. And, I mean, y'all laugh. But there are two ACTUAL schools of thought that are stewing around in the Regime right now. One is that the 13th amendment just isn't a real and valid thing. So, slavery is just fine. The other is to accept the 13th, but exploit the "but you can use prisoners for slave labor." The vision there is (1) incarcerate a shitload of "illegals" (note that with no due process anymore, there's no way to determine of someone in one of the new, sprawling "Detention Camps" really is illegal, or is just detained and disappeared), (2) use those people as a massive, cheap labor force (that is, the feds will "lease out" that prisoner labor to large businesses (that just HAPPEN to donate lots of money to Trump, siphon money to Trump businesses, etc.) for a few bucks an hour - the result being that you have functional slave labor, the private companies running the detention centers get an extra revenue stream, and the donor class gets a huge labor pool working at below-market prices).

If you don't see that coming, you aren't paying attention. Note that we're building MASSIVE detention centers for "illegals." We're not planning to deport millions. We're planning to hold them captive and use them.

It's ok, friend. I think that this time, the primary target for enslavement will be hispanics. Don't worry, though. The cops will still keep shooting black folks, and in fact will ramp WAY up, because not only does the DOJ not have any interest in prosecuting such actions, it is actively working to assist law enforcement in becoming MORE lawless and able to act entirely outside the law with no consequences. We'll all get ours, one way or the other.

Who’s ya’ll? I don’t laugh. I take it as fact as do most here sadly.

Edit: and that’s their plan. His wants vs his gets are miles apart… Even his own Supreme Court is checking him on tariffs. I don’t think his slavery gambit is getting anywhere.

Edited February 24Feb 24 by ChiTownDoc

1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

There it is. And, I mean, y'all laugh. But there are two ACTUAL schools of thought that are stewing around in the Regime right now. One is that the 13th amendment just isn't a real and valid thing. So, slavery is just fine. The other is to accept the 13th, but exploit the "but you can use prisoners for slave labor." The vision there is (1) incarcerate a shitload of "illegals" (note that with no due process anymore, there's no way to determine of someone in one of the new, sprawling "Detention Camps" really is illegal, or is just detained and disappeared), (2) use those people as a massive, cheap labor force (that is, the feds will "lease out" that prisoner labor to large businesses (that just HAPPEN to donate lots of money to Trump, siphon money to Trump businesses, etc.) for a few bucks an hour - the result being that you have functional slave labor, the private companies running the detention centers get an extra revenue stream, and the donor class gets a huge labor pool working at below-market prices).

If you don't see that coming, you aren't paying attention. Note that we're building MASSIVE detention centers for "illegals." We're not planning to deport millions. We're planning to hold them captive and use them.

It's ok, friend. I think that this time, the primary target for enslavement will be hispanics. Don't worry, though. The cops will still keep shooting black folks, and in fact will ramp WAY up, because not only does the DOJ not have any interest in prosecuting such actions, it is actively working to assist law enforcement in becoming MORE lawless and able to act entirely outside the law with no consequences. We'll all get ours, one way or the other.

Yep. Right now Hispanic immigrants are low hanging fruit, but rest assured they want us all. That's the good thing actually, because the more numbers you add the tougher it will be to accomplish what you want. Black people understand there is no white adjacent/acceptable to Fascists. A couple ethnic groups haven't gotten that message yet. Fascists will allow you on their side temporarily to use you to kill and slaughter your own, but your time is coming. Eventually all marginalized people end up in the same camp. People need to get with the program.

Somebody said said they wanted to be in the camp when they eventually marched Nick Fuentes and Stephen Miller into the gates( a Mexican and a Jew). Lol

1 hour ago, safe sex said:

My dad: "Trump's for the little guy."

The man has a master's degree. Jfc

Maybe he was saying trump’s for Kash Patel…

1 hour ago, safe sex said:

My dad: "Trump's for the little guy girl"

FIFH

1 hour ago, ChiTownDoc said:

His wants vs his gets are miles apart

Are they?

We currently have:

A massive secret police force, answerable only to him.

That secret police force is fully militarized.

The budget for that militarized secret police force is larger than the military budget for the entire country of Ukraine, which is in a literal full-on existential war against a superpower.

That secret police force is not bound by the law: they do not follow ordinary law enforcement rules or policies, they do not acknowledge or follow the 4th amendment, they do not acknowledge any rights to due process, they have open contempt for and ignore any and all attempts to supervise and/or hold them accountable by the other two branches of government. They are functionally above the law and operate entirely outside the law.

The regime is diverting/spending incredible resources and dollars NOT on deporting the people its secret police are snatching off the streets, but rather is operating and procuring more giant Detention Camps.

That same secret police force is not just going after people based on immigration status, but is openly and actively investigating people for things like making social media posts critical of the Regime.

If you asked the question "does the Mango Mussolini have a massive, loyalist, militarized police force that follows no rules or law other than what he tells them, is already being turned against ordinary people for things far outside of immigration issues, and is acquiring and operating massive Detention Camps to serve his personal ends?"....the fucking answer would be "FUCK YES HE IS." His want and his get overlap completely here.

Every alarm bell should be going off. All of them. Every single one.

7 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Are they?

We currently have:

A massive secret police force, answerable only to him.

That secret police force is fully militarized.

The budget for that militarized secret police force is larger than the military budget for the entire country of Ukraine, which is in a literal full-on existential war against a superpower.

That secret police force is not bound by the law: they do not follow ordinary law enforcement rules or policies, they do not acknowledge or follow the 4th amendment, they do not acknowledge any rights to due process, they have open contempt for and ignore any and all attempts to supervise and/or hold them accountable by the other two branches of government. They are functionally above the law and operate entirely outside the law.

The regime is diverting/spending incredible resources and dollars NOT on deporting the people its secret police are snatching off the streets, but rather is operating and procuring more giant Detention Camps.

That same secret police force is not just going after people based on immigration status, but is openly and actively investigating people for things like making social media posts critical of the Regime.

If you asked the question "does the Mango Mussolini have a massive, loyalist, militarized police force that follows no rules or law other than what he tells them, is already being turned against ordinary people for things far outside of immigration issues, and is acquiring and operating massive Detention Camps to serve his personal ends?"....the fucking answer would be "FUCK YES HE IS." His want and his get overlap completely here.

Every alarm bell should be going off. All of them. Every single one.

lol. Yes. They are. We have all that and the judges are letting everyone free etc. You think he’s getting everything he wants? That’s laughable. He’s losing his shit 24/7 posting in all caps because the courts are checking him over and over. He’s not rage posting because hes getting his way. I can assure you that.

1 minute ago, ChiTownDoc said:

lol. Yes. They are. We have all that and the judges are letting everyone free etc. You think he’s getting everything he wants? That’s laughable. He’s losing his shit 24/7 posting in all caps because the courts are checking him over and over. He’s not rage posting because hes getting his way. I can assure you that.

He is an infant, so he pitches a fit if he gets anything less than 100% of what he wants, in any given moment. That's irrelevant. Especially when you realize that he will pitch a fit if he only gets 99.99999999999999% of what he wants.

Currently, he's getting about 95% of what he wants. And when him getting a mere 20% of what he wants will be enough to kill this country and many people in it, that's really bad fucking news.

Our institutions are AT BEST fighting a rear-guard action that only slightly slows down the purposeful and utter destruction of....literally everything. That's not a win. We're just losing slightly more slowly than we would otherwise.

3 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

He is an infant, so he pitches a fit if he gets anything less than 100% of what he wants, in any given moment. That's irrelevant. Especially when you realize that he will pitch a fit if he only gets 99.99999999999999% of what he wants.

Currently, he's getting about 95% of what he wants. And when him getting a mere 20% of what he wants will be enough to kill this country and many people in it, that's really bad fucking news.

Our institutions are AT BEST fighting a rear-guard action that only slightly slows down the purposeful and utter destruction of....literally everything. That's not a win. We're just losing slightly more slowly than we would otherwise.

Nope. Agree to disagree. I’m in Chicago. I see predominantly Hispanic neighborhoods with everyone out and about. My boxing gym has plenty of undocumented. We have precautions there but last few months everyone comes using common sense but no fear like early on.

Trump is definitely ok with all that right? Especially in a city full of heathens like Chicago.

And I’m pretty damn active with the resistance or whatever you want to call it around here so don’t tell me I’m living in some ivory tower.

I could go on and on about shit he wants right here in my city that most definitely aren’t happening. The millions of people posting every second about his fat ass being a giant POS?

Yeah he’s ok with that for sure. People getting a day in court? In his world you think courts exist? Judges he assigned ruling against him? I could go on and on and on. Sorry what he's getting and what he wants are MILES apart.

elections? Why does he even have to try to rig elections? Why do elections exist at all? He’s ok with that?

Edited February 24Feb 24 by ChiTownDoc

2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

There it is. And, I mean, y'all laugh. But there are two ACTUAL schools of thought that are stewing around in the Regime right now. One is that the 13th amendment just isn't a real and valid thing. So, slavery is just fine. The other is to accept the 13th, but exploit the "but you can use prisoners for slave labor." The vision there is (1) incarcerate a shitload of "illegals" (note that with no due process anymore, there's no way to determine of someone in one of the new, sprawling "Detention Camps" really is illegal, or is just detained and disappeared), (2) use those people as a massive, cheap labor force (that is, the feds will "lease out" that prisoner labor to large businesses (that just HAPPEN to donate lots of money to Trump, siphon money to Trump businesses, etc.) for a few bucks an hour - the result being that you have functional slave labor, the private companies running the detention centers get an extra revenue stream, and the donor class gets a huge labor pool working at below-market prices).

If you don't see that coming, you aren't paying attention. Note that we're building MASSIVE detention centers for "illegals." We're not planning to deport millions. We're planning to hold them captive and use them.

It's ok, friend. I think that this time, the primary target for enslavement will be hispanics. Don't worry, though. The cops will still keep shooting black folks, and in fact will ramp WAY up, because not only does the DOJ not have any interest in prosecuting such actions, it is actively working to assist law enforcement in becoming MORE lawless and able to act entirely outside the law with no consequences. We'll all get ours, one way or the other.

11 hours ago, safe sex said:

My dad: "Trump's for the little guy."

The man has a master's degree. Jfc

It's from a legit school, which makes it even worse ugh