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NCAA Proposes aged-based 5 year clocks

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#1

Finally, maybe the smartest thing the NCAA has done in..... forever?

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NCAA proposing major change to eligibility rules

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Athletes would now have five years of eligibility once they turn 19 years old or after their high school graduation. There would be no redshirt or waivers in that case.

As Dellenger points out, there are very few exceptions that will be permitted under that new rule. Those include maternity leave, military service, or religious missions.

#2

I'm good with all of that, but do have a question- why would redshirts be out of the question? Does it mean the process in general or what? if I am interpreting 5 years, it still could include the 1st year being a redshirt and then you have 4 to go.

#4

The NCAA has had "rules" all along, and athletes sued and courts told the NCAA to fuck off with their rules. What makes these rules so special that they cant be challenged/overturned in court?

https://www.bakerlaw.com/insights/one-more-season-student-athlete-challenges-to-the-ncaas-eligibility-rules-continue/

Edited by Blotto

#5

There will be pushback on that finite age. People have additional hardships other than military and religion.

#6

Yeah, well, go dig a ditch.

#7

Courts will just strike it down at the first challenge, and back to square one.

#9
1 hour ago, Js1 said:

Finally, maybe the smartest thing the NCAA has done in..... forever?

On3
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NCAA proposing major change to eligibility rules

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One of the limited exceptions to the rule is for religious missions. I’m sure someone will exploit this by creating a faith based football infused church with year long religious missionary expeditions that spread the gospel of football.

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#10
15 minutes ago, MrBig said:

One of the limited exceptions to the rule is for religious missions. I’m sure someone will exploit this by creating a faith based football infused church with year long religious missionary expeditions that spread the gospel of football.

Hugh Freeze's next gig

#11
35 minutes ago, satyanash said:

Courts will just strike it down at the first challenge, and back to square one.

the athletes have better lawyers

once ncaa athletes unionize, this will all be settled

Edited by tx 3 putt

#12
22 minutes ago, MrBig said:

One of the limited exceptions to the rule is for religious missions. I’m sure someone will exploit this by creating a faith based football infused church with year long religious missionary expeditions that spread the gospel of football.

BYU?

#13
5 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

the athletes have better lawyers

once ncaa athletes unionize, this will all be settled

There is no reason to unionize. They have all the power and most of the rulings. Until they are categorized as employees they can’t even CBA

#14
4 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

There is no reason to unionize. They have all the power and most of the rulings. Until they are categorized as employees they can’t even CBA

This here. These athletes have all the power until they officially and legally become employees. I know everyone hates these 27 year old kids playing for their 7th year, but I see it more like a rogue employee using every trick in the book to stick around and make more money while the people at the top swimming in cash are complaining about unfairness and all this other bullshit. Coaches making $5-$10M a year and multimillion dollar athletic departments complaining about student athletes trying to extend their eligibility for the pursuit of making money is hypocrisy at its finest.

#15
9 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

There is no reason to unionize. They have all the power and most of the rulings. Until they are categorized as employees they can’t even CBA

profit sharing, especially those huge tv contracts

the basketball tourney is a billion dollar event, i'm guessing. those athletes seem to be a huge part of it

post career health care

Edited by tx 3 putt

#16
45 minutes ago, MrBig said:

One of the limited exceptions to the rule is for religious missions. I’m sure someone will exploit this by creating a faith based football infused church with year long religious missionary expeditions that spread the gospel of football.

29 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Hugh Freeze's next gig

Not only will Hugh enthusiastically support the missionary expeditions, but rumor has it he's in for the doggy-style and minivan expeditions as well.

#17
57 minutes ago, TrashMaster G said:

NCAA is trying anything they can to get back in control.

Relax, my old man's a television repairman, he's got the ultimate set of tools. (We) can fix it!"

#18
34 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

profit sharing, especially those huge tv contracts

the basketball tourney is a billion dollar event, i'm guessing. those athletes seem to be a huge part of it

post career health care

You want season tickets to triple, dont you? 😂

#19
10 minutes ago, markstanco said:

You want season tickets to triple, dont you? 😂

ncaa has royally fucked this all up

#20
1 hour ago, tx 3 putt said:

ncaa has royally fucked this all up

What should they have done differently? Its easy to bitch, but what specific steps would you have taken that wouldn't be challenged in court?

#21
1 hour ago, MrBig said:

This here. These athletes have all the power until they officially and legally become employees. I know everyone hates these 27 year old kids playing for their 7th year, but I see it more like a rogue employee using every trick in the book to stick around and make more money while the people at the top swimming in cash are complaining about unfairness and all this other bullshit. Coaches making $5-$10M a year and multimillion dollar athletic departments complaining about student athletes trying to extend their eligibility for the pursuit of making money is hypocrisy at its finest.

I’d like to see a more detailed breakdown. A roster of 105 vs a staff of 30-40

  • total staff salaries

  • total roster compensation

  • total operations costs

  • total facilities costs

  • total gate revenue

  • total broadcast revenue

  • total ad revenue

#22

Maybe not position Football and basketball as minor league entities while ignoring/ hiding behind/ playing pretend with the student athlete premise in lieu of dumpsters full of cash.

See also: nailing Dez Bryant for having dinner with the wrong guy while ignoring USC . Stupid fucking shit like that... for starters.

Edited by Iceman

#23
2 hours ago, satyanash said:

Courts will just strike it down at the first challenge, and back to square one.

I could see this one sticking since the business model is based on college and unlimited eligibility makes no sense. I've done no legal research on this but I also am not aware of anyone asking for unlimited eligibility. Rules that limit economic freedom are far more scrutinized than other rules of general applicability.

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#25
1 minute ago, Lidig8r said:

Yup.

Sure seems like this is directly related to President Trump's Executive Order on Collegiate Sports issued last week:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2026/04/urgent-national-action-to-save-college-sports/

There was nothing THAT inherently wrong with what was proposed. It just needs to come from the NCAA or Congress and not the executive branch of the U.S. Government

#26
5 minutes ago, Js1 said:

There was nothing THAT inherently wrong with what was proposed. It just needs to come from the NCAA or Congress and not the executive branch of the U.S. Government

This NCAA rule, like all others, is irrelevant and will lose if challenged. Restricting the earning power of people based purely on age brings up a lot of other legal issues that further ensure the rule's unenforceability. It's only enforceable to the extent that people voluntarily comply with it. And why would a 10th year senior who can make a million dollars comply with it?

If Congress does something, that would mostly fix it. And monkeys might just fly out of SA's mom's butt. Same probability.

#27
6 hours ago, Iceman said:

I'm good with all of that, but do have a question- why would redshirts be out of the question? Does it mean the process in general or what? if I am interpreting 5 years, it still could include the 1st year being a redshirt and then you have 4 to go.

It used to be 5 years to play 4 seasons, so you had the option to redshirt and then play 4 seasons.

The way I'm reading this is that players would now be able to play in 5 full seasons over the 5 years. There would be no need for a redshirt in that case. Play on special teams as much as you want as a freshman, that would just be 1 year out of 5.

Edited by TheBryMan81

#28
2 minutes ago, TheBryMan81 said:

It used to be 5 years to play 4 seasons, so you had the option to redshirt and then play 4 seasons.

The way I'm reading this is that players would now be able to play in 5 full seasons over the 5 years. There would be no need for a redshirt in that case. Play on special teams as much as you want as a freshman, that would just be 1 year out of 5.

Which would be good all around.

#29
6 hours ago, Blotto said:

The NCAA has had "rules" all along, and athletes sued and courts told the NCAA to fuck off with their rules. What makes these rules so special that they cant be challenged/overturned in court?

https://www.bakerlaw.com/insights/one-more-season-student-athlete-challenges-to-the-ncaas-eligibility-rules-continue/

They are trying to walk a fine line not to run afoul of antitrust and labor laws

#30

I don’t know anything about anything, but hasn’t rev share/NIL/portal created a significant market for a class of players who are good college players but fringe NFL guys…who could make a lot more money in CFB than in the NFL? Pavia for example…couldn’t he sign for like $1m every year with a new team? Won’t these guys argue (in court) that arbitrary eligibility rules prevent them from earning money that schools want to pay them?

Maybe I’m way off, but why is limited eligibility viable? Isn’t it totally arbitrary?

#31
1 minute ago, Hank Chinaski said:

I don’t know anything about anything, but hasn’t rev share/NIL/portal created a significant market for a class of players who are good college players but fringe NFL guys…who could make a lot more money in CFB than in the NFL? Pavia for example…couldn’t he sign for like $1m every year with a new team? Won’t these guys argue (in court) that arbitrary eligibility rules prevent them from earning money that schools want to pay them?

Maybe I’m way off, but why is limited eligibility viable? Isn’t it totally arbitrary?

Yep. You can pick up your honorary law degree over there —->

#32
25 minutes ago, nnm said:

Yep. You can pick up your honorary law degree over there —->

Hurry, kids! Send twenty-five cents and two Wheaties box tops to Aggy Mail-Order Law School, Battle Creek 7, Michigan. Do it today--you could be trying cases tomorrow!

#33
8 hours ago, markstanco said:

There will be pushback on that finite age. People have additional hardships other than military and religion.

Yes, some people have really, really bad allergies and hay feather.

#34
5 hours ago, Blotto said:

What should they have done differently? Its easy to bitch, but what specific steps would you have taken that wouldn't be challenged in court?

Maybe not cling to the profit-maximizing concept of "amateurism" a full generation longer than the hideously corrupt International Olympic Committee even did?

#35
3 hours ago, Js1 said:

There was nothing THAT inherently wrong with what was proposed. It just needs to come from the NCAA or Congress and not the executive branch of the U.S. Government

He basically proposed rolling back all the rules to what they were before the athletes made their cases in the courtrooms and the courts ruled in their favor. Not sure why you don't think that's "inherently wrong," but it's not surprising that that assclown has zero respect for the courts.

#36

What school, other than the racist clowns in Provo, needs the religious exemption? I don’t want ANY religious exemptions for athletes. BYU would want this so they can continue to suit up guys in their mid-20’s after they get back from their overseas mission. Put a stop to it and make them do their mission AFTER their eligibility is up.

#37

How would this affect that 30'ish / 40'ish ex-Marine guy who went to college for the first time and played what I assume was D3 Football for them.

#38

Per ChatGPT:

"For the ex-Marine part, the big exception is that military service is one of the limited carve-outs being discussed. So if his gap between high school and college was covered by qualifying military service, he would have a much better shot than a random older beginner. If not, this type of rule would likely shut the door on that kind of story."

#39

If you can be a college student at 26-30, why not be able to be paid to play football? What’s the difference between that and working in a research lab for more years?

I for one would love to see college football turn into a G league style of thing.

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