2018-19 Houston Rockets Thread of running it back (mainly)

[Victor Lazlo 1,777]

Noooooooo

[BigOrange1 6,441]

wow.

[perfectchaos007 6,643]

Weirdest wire to wire loss I've seen

[Honeysucklerose 990]

Tough loss

[HtownHorn 14,685]

Probably going to stick at 3rd as the ceiling after this loss. Trail Denver by 5 losses now with 10 games to go.

[Dutchrudder 11,139]

I only got to watch the first half, but they were playing like garbage then. Can't believe they took that to OT and lost. That should have been an easy win, even at Memphis. Really sucks with some tough games coming up soon against Spurs, Bucks and Nuggets.

[NowThis 931]

had a feeling they'd lose last night. Can't get up for Memphis after a home stand.  In the offseason, i hope they pursue a Big tough guy who rebounds, dunks and blocks - as a complement to Capela/Nene (final year). No need to be a 3 point stretch 5, just old school tough guy. Team is really undersized and needs height somewhere. 

Edited March 21, 2019 by NowThis

[Dutchrudder 11,139]

Pau Gasol will be free agent, we could finally complete that loop!

[Pimphand 5,755]

14 hours ago, HtownHorn said:

Probably going to stick at 3rd as the ceiling after this loss. Trail Denver by 5 losses now with 10 games to go.

I'm pretty sure it was the ceiling even before the loss it was always going to be super tough to make up that amount of ground with such a short porch to go.  Just need Denver to stay in the 2 spot

[NowThis 931]

20 minutes ago, Dutchrudder said:

Pau Gasol will be free agent, we could finally complete that loop!

Tacko Fall? 

[UDontKnow 10,446]

Must win tonight - season series as well as playoff positioning on the line. Spurs have been playing hot but managed to lose at home against D-Wade farewell tour Heat prior to tonight's tilt. D'Antoni can not rest Gordon for this game.

[Scraps 13,561]

Sooo Harden scored 27 pts....


In the 1st qtr

[Scraps 13,561]

37 at halftime

Rockets up 15

[UDontKnow 10,446]

Typical Rockets 3rd quarter. Blew a fucking 19 point lead. Someone besides Harden needs to do something.

[perfectchaos007 6,643]

How many 17+ point leads have we blown this season? has to be a record

[UDontKnow 10,446]

Maybe D'Antoni shouldn't rest players if it's gonna cost the Rockets playoff positioning. If they lose to the Spurs tonight, that'll be an even worse loss than the Grizzlies game.

[perfectchaos007 6,643]

Oh hey Harden

[Scraps 13,561]

61 huh...he good

[perfectchaos007 6,643]

The writers that vote Giannis MVP need to be tarred and feathered

[UDontKnow 10,446]

7 minutes ago, perfectchaos007 said:

Oh hey Harden

Saving the Rockets bread and butter all season long. God Bless the Bearded One. Needed that victory in the worst way.

[NowThis 931]

good thing Manu retired. Damn too close for comfort. 

[goatsaag 279]

13 minutes ago, UDontKnow said:

Maybe D'Antoni shouldn't rest players if it's gonna cost the Rockets playoff positioning. If they lose to the Spurs tonight, that'll be an even worse loss than the Grizzlies game.

As long as Shumpert is dropped from the rotation completely for the playoffs, I'm fine with it. He's been terrible so far and no reason for him to be playing over Rivers

[NowThis 931]

28 minutes ago, goatsaag said:

As long as Shumpert is dropped from the rotation completely for the playoffs, I'm fine with it. He's been terrible so far and no reason for him to be playing over Rivers

someone explain why Ennis was dealt for this loser Shumpert. Some financial reason? 

[HtownHorn 14,685]

19 minutes ago, NowThis said:

someone explain why Ennis was dealt for this loser Shumpert. Some financial reason? 

Because Ennis couldn't stay healthy.

[UDontKnow 10,446]

31 minutes ago, NowThis said:

someone explain why Ennis was dealt for this loser Shumpert. Some financial reason? 

It was mostly finances and a little bit of D'Antoni fetish for him. D'Antoni coached him with the Knicks, IIRC.

[Dutchrudder 11,139]

someone explain why Ennis was dealt for this loser Shumpert. Some financial reason? 

They dropped Knights 16m off next years cap and got under the tax this year.

[NowThis 931]

sigh what a waste in Shumpert, sad losing Ennis who is doing well with Philly. 

Houston needs a big next year. I'm craving Javelle McGee who is only making $2.9mil (shumpert gets $11mil).  JM is exactly what they need.  Dump Shump, get JM some $, resign Green, Rivers and House, each is making nothing. This would be a big improvement for next year.  Can't expect Tucker and Gordon to score, rebound and guard much taller guys every single game. 

[UDontKnow 10,446]

2 minutes ago, NowThis said:

sigh what a waste in Shumpert, sad losing Ennis who is doing well with Philly. 

Houston needs a big next year. I'm craving Javelle McGee who is only making $2.9mil (shumpert gets $11mil).  JM is exactly what they need.  Dump Shump, get JM some $, resign Green, Rivers and House, each is making nothing. This would be a big improvement for next year.  Can't expect Tucker and Gordon to score, rebound and guard much taller guys every single game. 

The Rockets definitely need size and rebounding. But enjoy this for now:

 

 

[HtownHorn 14,685]

1 minute ago, NowThis said:

sigh what a waste in Shumpert, sad losing Ennis who is doing well with Philly. 

Houston needs a big next year. I'm craving Javelle McGee who is only making $2.9mil (shumpert gets $11mil).  JM is exactly what they need.  Dump Shump, get JM some $, resign Green, Rivers and House, each is making nothing. This would be a big improvement for next year.  Can't expect Tucker and Gordon to score, rebound and guard much taller guys every single game. 

Ennis hardly plays for Philly and when he does is under producing what he did here. Shumpert is a FA after the season, he is gone.

[NowThis 931]

3 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

Ennis hardly plays for Philly and when he does is under producing what he did here. Shumpert is a FA after the season, he is gone.

Ennis giving 7.6 pts in his last 10 games which is better than his overall season avg of 6.8pts.  Anyway, hes' a good tough role player and i'm sorry he's gone.

[UDontKnow 10,446]

6 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

Ennis hardly plays for Philly and when he does is under producing what he did here. Shumpert is a FA after the season, he is gone.

I'm sorry, but you're dead wrong on this one.

https://sixerswire.usatoday.com/2019/03/20/james-ennis-iii-is-proving-to-be-a-difference-maker-for-sixers/

https://sixerswire.usatoday.com/2019/03/06/despite-loss-to-bulls-james-ennis-makes-case-for-regular-minutes/

He's been doing well for 76ers for some time now.

[BigOrange1 6,441]

harden is simply fucking incredible. 

[HtownHorn 14,685]

2 hours ago, UDontKnow said:

I'm sorry, but you're dead wrong on this one.

https://sixerswire.usatoday.com/2019/03/20/james-ennis-iii-is-proving-to-be-a-difference-maker-for-sixers/

https://sixerswire.usatoday.com/2019/03/06/despite-loss-to-bulls-james-ennis-makes-case-for-regular-minutes/

He's been doing well for 76ers for some time now.

Uh no.

He's had 3 good games against Chicago, Cleveland, and Charlotte (teams that are a combined 72-144), otherwise he's combined to shoot 11-40 (5-20) in the other games he has played.

He's also seen is PER decrease, his WS/48 decrease, his OBPM increase from -0.1 to -1.7, his DBPM increase from -0.2 to -1.7, and his ORtg decrease from 124 to 112.

The game after Charlotte, against Boston, he followed up his heroic effort, with a display of 2PTS(1/2)-2TRB -1AST-3 PF brilliance.

I'd rather have Ennis over Shumpret, but neither is/was going to play much in the playoffs for the Rockets.

Edited March 23, 2019 by HtownHorn

[NowThis 931]

48 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

Uh no.

He's had 3 good games against Chicago, Cleveland, and Charlotte (teams that are a combined 72-144), otherwise he's combined to shoot 11-40 (5-20) in the other games he has played.

He's also seen is PER decrease, his WS/48 decrease, his OBPM increase from -0.1 to -1.7, his DBPM increase from -0.2 to -1.7, and his ORtg decrease from 124 to 112.

The game after Charlotte, against Boston, he followed up his heroic effort, with a display of 2PTS(1/2)-2TRB -1AST-3 PF brilliance.

I'd rather have Ennis over Shumpret, but neither is/was going to play much in the playoffs for the Rockets.

those stats are not useful. 

Stats are ONE TOOL in looking at a player. There's the eyeball test which real fans understand is just as important. 

[LTtxfan 49,196]

Harden with 61pts..... "World B. Free"

Rockets best chance to go anywhere in playoffs is dependent on CP3 staying healthy.  Due to Rockets overusage of Harden, Still expecting to see him either breakdown or crash by 2nd Rd of the playoffs....

Edited March 23, 2019 by LTtxfan

[HtownHorn 14,685]

7 hours ago, NowThis said:

those stats are not useful. 

Stats are ONE TOOL in looking at a player. There's the eyeball test which real fans understand is just as important. 

"real fans", lulz. Ok. This discussion is stupid.

[HtownHorn 14,685]

1 hour ago, LTtxfan said:

Harden with 61pts..... "World B. Free"

Rockets best chance to go anywhere in playoffs is dependent on CP3 staying healthy.  Due to Rockets overusage of Harden, Still expecting to see him either breakdown or crash by 2nd Rd of the playoffs....

This is biggest fear as well. Luckily this team is mostly veterans, but to see them continuously stand around watching Harden's greatness is not good. Those guys need to start playing better, though maybe D'Antoni needs to figure out his playoff rotation and roll with that a few games instead of giving everyone time off. This team has played a handful of games with their full rotation, they need game action.

[NowThis 931]

26 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

"real fans", lulz. Ok. This discussion is stupid.

solely using stats isn't a perfect way to judge a player. That's why NBA scouts go to games, not even just watch on TV, but see a guy in person - because it's most useful. Otherwise just look at metrics to acquire a player, right? No, there's good 'data' to be had by seeing them play. 

[TonyTexas 10,515]

those stats are not useful. 
Stats are ONE TOOL in looking at a player. There's the eyeball test which real fans understand is just as important. 

So you watch a lot of 76er games I guess..

[mycox 582]

6 hours ago, LTtxfan said:

Harden with 61pts..... "World B. Free"

Rockets best chance to go anywhere in playoffs is dependent on CP3 staying healthy.  Due to Rockets overusage of Harden, Still expecting to see him either breakdown or crash by 2nd Rd of the playoffs....

Harden won't break down because he is tired. The guy can score, but he isn't someone who can lead the team to victory in the playoffs. CP3 is that guy.

Edited March 23, 2019 by mycox

[BigOrange1 6,441]

56 minutes ago, mycox said:

Harden won't break down because he is tired. The guy can score, but he isn't someone who can lead the team to victory in the playoffs. CP3 is that guy.

so tired of this shit.  "OMG, he wasn't able to close out the warriors and their 4 all stars down CP3, he can't win!!11!!"

[mycox 582]

I'm not talking about the Warriors series last year. Do you not remember seasons 2015 -20017 when all Harden did in the playoffs was dribble and turn the ball over? He can't lead the team.

Edited March 23, 2019 by mycox

[CurlyDumps 4,471]

Game 6 2017 vs Spurs - he played so badly ppl wondered if he was drugged or concussed.

Game 6  comeback vs. Clippers 2016 - he was having an awful game and watching from the bench.

Closeout game 6  vs. Warriors 2016 - didn’t he set a record for turnovers?

I can’t even really recall any good signature moments off the top of my head.  Think he played well in game 7 vs. the Clippers at home?

[HtownHorn 14,685]

1 hour ago, BigOrange1 said:

so tired of this shit.  "OMG, he wasn't able to close out the warriors and their 4 all stars down CP3, he can't win!!11!!"

He has averaged 27.6, 5.5, 7.0 in the playoffs with the Rockets, yet, for some it's not enough. He's expected to lead inferior teams over better teams on the regular.

[Slacks 6,821]

Game 6 2017 vs Spurs - he played so badly ppl wondered if he was drugged or concussed.
Game 6  comeback vs. Clippers 2016 - he was having an awful game and watching from the bench.
Closeout game 6  vs. Warriors 2016 - didn’t he set a record for turnovers?
I can’t even really recall any good signature moments off the top of my head.  Think he played well in game 7 vs. the Clippers at home?

EVERYBODY went off for the Rockets in that game.... but Harden was - 20 and only played 29 minutes. Shot 5/20.

[BigOrange1 6,441]

1 hour ago, CurlyDumps said:

Game 6 2017 vs Spurs - he played so badly ppl wondered if he was drugged or concussed.  -- he, along with the rest of the team, was truly awful in this one.

Game 6  comeback vs. Clippers 2016 - he was having an awful game and watching from the bench. -- everyone was awful in this game until late in the fourth quarter when dwight howard and particularly josh smith and corey brewer all went off -- i guess this makes them playoff winners.  harden was good in game 7.

Closeout game 6  vs. Warriors 2016 - didn’t he set a record for turnovers?  -- he ran out of gas in this series (again, his best teammates were dwight howard, corey brewer, josh smith and jason terry.  he was 40/79 and averaging 32 ppg up until that point.  but since they lost, those numbers don't matter right?

I can’t even really recall any good signature moments off the top of my head.  Think he played well in game 7 vs. the Clippers at home?

1234

[mycox 582]

I guess I remember those games differently. I remember them as Harden dribble the ball for 18 seconds and then shoot. Not just those games pointed out, but the entire series. CP3 is smart enough to pull Harden aside and tell him to get his head in the game. Harden is one of my favorite players, but I would rather have CP3 with the ball in his hands when the game is on the line.

Edited March 24, 2019 by mycox

[Brothahorn 10,087]

Harden won't break down because he is tired. The guy can score, but he isn't someone who can lead the team to victory in the playoffs. CP3 is that guy.

As much as we wish it were true, CP3 ain’t that guy either. He’s only been to the conference finals once. Last year. And now he’s year older.

Enjoy the ride, but don’t be surprised when the wheels fall off again.

[UDontKnow 10,446]

Comfortable win in New Orleans leads to clinching the playoff spot. That combined with GSW and Denver getting blown out in their last games makes the playoff race interesting. Can the Rockets get a win in Milwaukee? Hopefully D'Antoni is all hands on deck for that game - should be exciting.

[BigOrange1 6,441]

easy win over new orleans tonight and officially clinched a playoff spot.  harden only had to play 29 minutes too.  

two big ones coming up this week @ milwaukee and vs. denver.