2018-19 Houston Rockets Thread of running it back (mainly)

[CurlyDumps 4664]

 

7 minutes ago, UDontKnow said:

House had a foot injury if we are to believe the Rockets front office. 

Toe injury but I thought he was healthy by game 4 or 5.

[UDontKnow 10572]

2 minutes ago, perfectchaos007 said:

We won just as many games against the warriors as the clippers

and none of them were in Oakland.

[TexasMan 11464]

Ahh, I remember my youth too. 

 

 

[clapclapclap 9000]

8 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

D'Antoni needs to be fired.  

You don't appreciate his Jack Pardee-esque aura?

[HtownHorn 15231]

2 minutes ago, CurlyDumps said:

 

Toe injury but I thought he was healthy by game 4 or 5.

They even announced he was likely to play in game 5, until D'Antoni choked on his own ego.

Edited May 11, 2019 by HtownHorn

[BigOrange1 6611]

house was awful when he played.  let's not make him into robert horry.

[UDontKnow 10572]

2 minutes ago, clapclapclap said:

You don't appreciate his Jack Pardee-esque aura?

Hey Hey Mike!

[BigOrange1 6611]

harden, paul, tucker, gordon, capela, rivers.  those are the only guys from this team that should be brought back.  unfortunately, the rockets dont have the cap space or draft picks to add 3 more meaningful players to that group. 

[perfectchaos007 6780]

I would have liked to see Faried get some minutes but I’m not the coaching genius that dantoni is

[hookem48 4857]

17 minutes ago, Tommy Nobis said:

 

What vets want to come play in this dumpster fire? Vets do it to win at places like Golden state. Not the iso harden ball rockets.

vets that suck?

[UDontKnow 10572]

2 minutes ago, perfectchaos007 said:

I would have liked to see Faried get some minutes but I’m not the coaching genius that dantoni is

Don't worry. None of us are.

[ChickenSandwich 9977]

Gordon needs to go. Bring on Jimmy buckets. It’s Harden Paul Capella Tucker. Everyone else is expendable. 

Fuck shit cunt bitch god dammit 

*because contracts. Maybe find some assholes to take Simon Phoenix off our hands

Edited May 11, 2019 by ChickenSandwich

[HtownHorn 15231]

Gordon does need to go. He's only useful when he's hot from 3 and is scoring mid 20's, because his defense is abysmal and he doesn't rebound worth a shit.

 

I'd look to move his contract to create space to try and convince Rivers and Faried to return. Maybe with a new coaching staff that realizes securing defensive rebounds is a plus, he'd get more run.

Maybe Hartenstein and Clark develop more, because it's likely that 3 of the 4 guys that played off the Rockets bench tonight played their last NBA game in Nene(for sure retiring), Green, and Shumpert.

Edited May 11, 2019 by HtownHorn

[Zavala 1384]

31 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

Bring back Van Gundy.

That would be amazin'

But Fertittas would have to cough up the dough, and More ball would have to admit he was wrong. AND Van Gundy probably likes chilling on the sidelines barely working now

[FondrenRoad 4378]

8 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:

Gordon needs to go. Bring on Jimmy buckets. It’s Harden Paul Capella Tucker. Everyone else is expendable. 

Fuck shit cunt bitch god dammit 

*because contracts. Maybe find some assholes to take Simon Phoenix off our hands

Gordon is a good player but he is a point guard too. Rockets have an all time great shooting guard, and the 2 best players they get to play with him are point guards. Do you recall the point guards that played with Jordan and Kobe?  Generics. Harden needs a big man to play with. Just like every other great guard needs. 

[BigOrange1 6611]

1 minute ago, HtownHorn said:

Gordon does need to go. He's only useful when he's hot from 3 and is scoring mid 20's, because his defense is abysmal and he doesn't rebound worth a shit.

 

I'd look to move his contract to create space to try and convince Rivers and Faried to return. Maybe with a new coaching staff that realizes securing defensive rebounds is a plus, he'd get more run.

holy fuck did you just say gordon's defense is abysmal??

know how i know you don't know shit???

[UDontKnow 10572]

1 minute ago, FondrenRoad said:

Gordon is a good player but he is a point guard too. Rockets have an all time great shooting guard, and the 2 best players they get to play with him are point guards. Do you recall the point guards that played with Jordan and Kobe?  Generics. Harden needs a big man to play with. Just like every other great guard needs. 

lolwut?

[ChickenSandwich 9977]

1 minute ago, FondrenRoad said:

Gordon is a good player but he is a point guard too. Rockets have an all time great shooting guard, and the 2 best players they get to play with him are point guards. Do you recall the point guards that played with Jordan and Kobe?  Generics. Harden needs a big man to play with. Just like every other great guard needs. 

He is the most valuable trade piece we have. Unless someone is still high (and I mean fucking High as a god damned kite) on Capella and his skidmark 

[YChang 3571]

Sad and over this Harden led team.

[UDontKnow 10572]

 

[goatsaag 281]

So Eric Gordon is a point guard who is awful on defense? What?

It would be nice if we could move Gordon back to the bench and he definitely shouldn't be kept out of deals that could bring in something better, but he's very much not a point guard and is a good defender.

[TexasMan 11464]

New veterans you guys want, eh?

 

 

 

[HtownHorn 15231]

1 minute ago, BigOrange1 said:

holy fuck did you just say gordon's defense is abysmal??

know how i know you don't know shit???

Yes Gordon's defense is abysmal. DRtg of 118 for the series, only Green was worse. TRB% of fucking 4.1 the worst on the team.

[HtownHorn 15231]

4 minutes ago, goatsaag said:

So Eric Gordon is a point guard who is awful on defense? What?

It would be nice if we could move Gordon back to the bench and he definitely shouldn't be kept out of deals that could bring in something better, but he's very much not a point guard and is a good defender.

Under what metric is Gordon a good defender? 

Less than 1 DWS a season

-2.3 DPM on average for his career

Career 113 DRtg, and 115 this season

A career TRB% of 4.3

A career BLK% of 0.8

A career STL% of 1.4

His best season of ORtg vs. DRtg was last year when it was 110 to 110, otherwise he's DRtg has always been worse than his ORtg.

He does have a very movable contract and can space the floor as a spot up shooter, but he's closer to the 8th man on a good team than a starter getting 30+ minutes.

[Planet Houston 4950]

The stretch between Curry getting his third foul and halftime doomed us. We let Thompson drop 12 or 13 when he was the only real offensive threat on the court. Letting him dominate when his supporting cast was Draymond, Looney, Bell and Cook was fucking awful. 

Then Curry remembers he’s an all time great in the 4th, and it was all she wrote. 

Fuck. 

[TexArcher 39077]

Here we are again, debating why we can't get over the hump and how to fix it.  How do I keep falling for this shit every year?

[FondrenRoad 4378]

53 minutes ago, Planet Houston said:

The stretch between Curry getting his third foul and halftime doomed us. We let Thompson drop 12 or 13 when he was the only real offensive threat on the court. Letting him dominate when his supporting cast was Draymond, Looney, Bell and Cook was fucking awful. 

Then Curry remembers he’s an all time great in the 4th, and it was all she wrote. 

Fuck. 

It was always doomed. The Rockets best starting lineup has been Harden, Paul, Gordon, Tucker, and Capela. Capela is the only one over 6'5" and he was garbage in the series. 

Thompson is a shooting guard that is taller than 4 of those players. 

The Rockets problem is that they built a team that can beat everyone else with small ball. They need a team that can beat the warriors.  The warriors play small ball with tall people. 

[FondrenRoad 4378]

8 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

Here we are again, debating why we can't get over the hump and how to fix it.  How do I keep falling for this shit every year?

It was always obvious. The Rockets need an all star forward. Paul was a waste of money. Same team with or without him. Same with Gordon though hes an awesome 6th man.

[Rockethorn1978 6206]

I honestly don’t have a clue what Houston could do. A lot of this is on morey and our early season shit start or we would be a 1 or 2 seed and we need HCA to have a chance. 

I hope he attempts to make a roster move but kinda feels like he doesn’t have wiggle room and will run it back. Capela is worthless unless it’s a lob so wouldn’t mind seeing him get moved for a banger that will grab boards.

[Slacks 7072]

Did the Warriors win when Mark Jackson was coaching the Warriors with pretty much the same roster? Yeah that's what I thought.

Actually, they were winning, but young. They got better every year... And Jackson still got fired.

[Slacks 7072]

It does when an undersized team whips your ass on the boards, because you are consistently letting your big play 30' from the basket.

GSW is bigger than the Rockets. The Rockets are undersized.

[TexasMan 11464]

 

[Slacks 7072]

It was always doomed. The Rockets best starting lineup has been Harden, Paul, Gordon, Tucker, and Capela. Capela is the only one over 6'5" and he was garbage in the series. 
Thompson is a shooting guard that is taller than 4 of those players. 
The Rockets problem is that they built a team that can beat everyone else with small ball. They need a team that can beat the warriors.  The warriors play small ball with tall people. 

I said this last week... Team is too small... And getting old.

[Slacks 7072]

Dantoni is the current Don Nelson (or the past Dantoni). I said this when he was hired. This style of ball will not win in the playoffs...

 

Morey is also off..

 

The math is correct, but the other team can affect the math... And the math doesn't tell you what to do when you're missing the high value / low percentage shots and the other team is scoring. When your team goes on negative runs with low percentage shots, the runs will be longer... And when you play against better defenses, the runs will be longer. Longer runs of not scoring are hard to overcome against good teams.

 

 

He has to have this in his spreadsheet, right?

 

 

[NowThis 931]

GS had 7 blocks, Rockets had 1 (old man Nene).

Iggy, who was a star in Denver and Philly, had 5 steals which is a lot AND hit 5 threes. Damn the talent. 

Houston has thick smaller football player bodies which allows them to play bigger (like Charles Barkley only 6-4.5") but the lack of length is a hindrance.

Houston will also probably lose Rivers (only $1.1mil), Faried (Downtwenti stupidly didn't play him), Green and House this offseason. Meaning their bench is totally fucked for next year. 

I wouldn't be surprised if Houston misses the playoffs next year with being so old, no bench, and the certain injuries to paul / harden.

This team died last night.  Nice run for about 4 years, now it's time to rebuild, but can't because the salaries are too much.  It's going to take many years to recover from this devastation. 

[Rockethorn1978 6206]

Miss the playoffs? Lol you are the worst troll poster on this thread.

harden is in his prime he’s not 38, everyone over exaggerates after a loss and while we aren’t winning a title with this core we aren’t missing the playoffs completely because we lost to the eventual 3 time champion haha. If we were in the bottom of the bracket we would have been in the wcf again and we are better than the nuggets and blazers so just stop. 

Why don’t you wait and see exactly who is on the roster first.

[NowThis 931]

after last season i correctly stated that HOU will win 52-55 games. Bingo. 

The team has peaked and is on the backend of the mountain drive. The west keeps improving, rockets are aging badly.

[hookem48 4857]

I said it during the game and I'll say it again, the Rockets look like five dudes that's never even met. "Let's spread it out past the 3 point line and just stand still in case the dude with the beard throws us the ball". 

[hookem48 4857]

1 hour ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

I honestly don’t have a clue what Houston could do. A lot of this is on morey and our early season shit start or we would be a 1 or 2 seed and we need HCA to have a chance. 

I hope he attempts to make a roster move but kinda feels like he doesn’t have wiggle room and will run it back. Capela is worthless unless it’s a lob so wouldn’t mind seeing him get moved for a banger that will grab boards.

HCA? choked that away last year and couldn't win at home last night with the other team missing it's best player. 

[SwanderedTalent 5761]

happy 25th anniversary of Choke City everyone

 

[ChickenSandwich 9977]

Sign Cousins to the MLE

[Barry_McCokiner 160]

Can't wait for Morey and his audit staff to tell us how much the Rockets actually won by last night.

Edited May 11, 2019 by Barry_McCokiner

[ChickenSandwich 9977]

One advantage we had was depth and we never even tried. 

[Murfdogg21 4577]

Time to revisit last year’s end of season thread to see all the people who supported CP3 and Capella getting max contracts for multi-years. JFC. CP3 will be playing like his age soon and Capella....well when will people in NBA (and MLB for that matter) stop letting these flash in a pan guys rob them for huge chunks of the team’s salary allotment for several years and then immediately return to below average?

Do the Knicks want to sign KD and take CP3 and Capella for the #1 pick? LOL I know nm. 

[SilasCoade 2622]

I recall getting mocked for saying Capella was a fraud last offseason. He sucks.

[HtownHorn 15231]

35 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:

One advantage we had was depth and we never even tried. 

Yep.

 

Golden State had shitty depth, but Kerr wasn't afraid to play everyone on his bench last night.

[ChickenSandwich 9977]

32 minutes ago, Llogg said:

I recall getting mocked for saying Capella was a fraud last offseason. He sucks.

Capella was the 16th highest paid center. It’s still a fair deal for the Money. 

Edited May 11, 2019 by ChickenSandwich

[Wild Bill 325]

You suck Lebron.

 

 

[HtownHorn 15231]

14 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:

Capella was the 16th highest paid center. It’s still a fair deal for the Money. 

I guess the Rockets could have let Paul and Capela walk, and still not have cap space to sign anyone else.

[TexasMan 11464]

2 hours ago, SwanderedTalent said:

happy 25th anniversary of Choke City everyone

 

If only these Rockets had a speck of resiliency and heart those Rockets teams had.