Adding to the pit bull argument

[Harrison Bergeron 1798]

6 hours ago, Deej said:

I'm just saying any loose dog is a problem. 

If they're loose, they probably have a shitty owner and you can't rely on the dog being safe.

I get the sense that the only loose dog in this scenario Mrs. @CoTex. I also feel like enough Shaggsters have tapped that ass so they can provide some counseling and comfort to answer "How do I deal with my wife being a frat house whore and sold out to Austin (bleck) pimps)?

[cam4mav 770]

Arm your kids from neighborhood dogs? Preemptive victim ass bullshit. Teach them to treat animals with respect as they would humans (you did teach them that part right?). Those dogs will be a better judge of character of your kids than your kids teachers, shut the fuck up.

 

Go clutch your pearls between your bear mace fingers. 

[elfenix 34127]

Bear spray is poetically your best option. If it will stop a grizzly, it will stop a pit.

"if" doing a lot of lifting

[Nolacycling 893]

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report the loose dogs to animal control, cops, hoa... Once the owner pays some expensive tix, he'll make a decision.

[CooterBrown 17762]

And CoTex is a horrible username. 
 

His last name is Cotex and he’s heir to the family company, Kotex. He’s swimming in bloody pussy money. Why do you think he can afford to live in a home with a golf course AND pit bulls?

[gurt 736]

6 hours ago, cam4mav said:

Arm your kids from neighborhood dogs? Preemptive victim ass bullshit. Teach them to treat animals with respect as they would humans (you did teach them that part right?). Those dogs will be a better judge of character of your kids than your kids teachers, shut the fuck up.

 

Go clutch your pearls between your bear mace fingers. 

that lady should've just respected the dog before it ate her face off.  The dog knew she lacked moral fiber!

[DigglerontheHoof 20599]

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-01193-1

 

Dog enthusiasts have long assumed that a dog’s breed shapes its temperament. But a sweeping study comparing the behaviour and ancestry of more than 18,000 dogs finds that although ancestry does affect behaviour, breed has much less to do with a dog’s personality than is generally supposed1.

“When you adopt a dog based on its breed, you’re getting a dog that looks a certain way,” says co-author Elinor Karlsson, a computational biologist at the University of Massachusetts in Worcester. “But as far as behaviour goes, it’s kind of luck of the draw.”

[956 Worldwide 34019]

50 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-01193-1

 

Dog enthusiasts have long assumed that a dog’s breed shapes its temperament. But a sweeping study comparing the behaviour and ancestry of more than 18,000 dogs finds that although ancestry does affect behaviour, breed has much less to do with a dog’s personality than is generally supposed1.

“When you adopt a dog based on its breed, you’re getting a dog that looks a certain way,” says co-author Elinor Karlsson, a computational biologist at the University of Massachusetts in Worcester. “But as far as behaviour goes, it’s kind of luck of the draw.”

This is true, the issue is that an aggressive pit bull or other medium to large dogs bred to fight and guard are more dangerous than an aggressive small dog, or even some aggressive large dogs of different breeds.  The breed does come into play when you talk about its tenacity and willingness to keep biting and the strength of its bite.  This is also tossing out the higher likelihood of shitty owners of “tough” breeds.  

[CoTex 1157]

8 hours ago, cam4mav said:

Arm your kids from neighborhood dogs? Preemptive victim ass bullshit. Teach them to treat animals with respect as they would humans (you did teach them that part right?). Those dogs will be a better judge of character of your kids than your kids teachers, shut the fuck up.

 

Go clutch your pearls between your bear mace fingers. 

I really appreciate this insightful comment but, on reflection, I don't think I'm going to take any of this advice.

Here's why.  1.  You assume I haven't taught my children to treat animals with respect, and 2.  You rank a random dog's ability to judge a child's character, above "teachers," and 3.  I was talking about adding a can of pepper spray to a list of things carried on a golf-cart and your response seems to include a level of emotion that I'm not sure is deserved by my comment.

Aaaaaand, since my post I learned that mail-carriers and utility company workers carry pepper spray, and are trained to use it.  Apparently they're not convinced that a dog's "judge of character" is good enough.  I wonder why.

Which leaves me a choice - side with your uninformed self, or go with teachers, mail-carriers and utility company workers.  I'm going to assume that their experience and education is superior to yours, and go with them.

 

Edited May 2, 2022 by CoTex

[irishtexan 11414]

1) I think you're being kind of paranoid. If every single loose pit bull was out there mauling 15 year olds this thread would be updated more frequently than once a year.

2) If you live in a neighborhood where people are driving around golf carts, you've probably got both an HOA and a leash law. Take it to the HOA and ask that they enforce the ordinance. 

3) If you don't have an HOA and you observe the puppies off-leash again, perhaps ask her nicely to make sure that when her dogs are outside, they need to be on-leash. Maybe make up some bullshit story about your little sister being attacked by an off leash dog (don't say pit bull because that will trigger the "pit bulls aren't bad dogs" response from the owner) when you were kids, and that's why you are asking her to do this - because of the trauma from your childhood. 

4) You can also just call the cops/animal control if you see them off-leash. 

[High Plains Drifter 10937]

 

I am anti-golf carts in neighborhoods, but I am also anti-loose dogs. In this case, #teamCoTex.

 

i have used pepper spray on dogs when bicycling in rural areas. It generally works, but there have a few times when it didn't seem to have much of an effect (although perhaps due to wind and other factors maybe they didn't get the full blast).

 

However, be careful spraying that shit. The wind can blow it back on you, which is not fun. Also, there is a difference between "pepper spray" and "bear spray", mainly bear spray is much stronger than pepper spray, although I think they use the same basic ingredient. Each canister only has a few sprays, and a fairly limited range. They also seem to clog up pretty easily, and have to be frequently replaced.

 

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[High Plains Drifter 10937]

8 hours ago, cam4mav said:

Arm your kids from neighborhood dogs? Preemptive victim ass bullshit. Teach them to treat animals with respect as they would humans (you did teach them that part right?). Those dogs will be a better judge of character of your kids than your kids teachers, shut the fuck up.

 

Go clutch your pearls between your bear mace fingers. 

 

 

 Dogs judge character lol. Are you an idiot, or is this a bit?

 

[BabaYaga 15184]

34 minutes ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

I am anti-golf carts in neighborhoods, but I am also anti-loose dogs. In this case, #teamCoTex.

 

i have used pepper spray on dogs when bicycling in rural areas. It generally works, but there have a few times when it didn't seem to have much of an effect (although perhaps due to wind and other factors maybe they didn't get the full blast).

 

However, be careful spraying that shit. The wind can blow it back on you, which is not fun. Also, there is a difference between "pepper spray" and "bear spray", mainly bear spray is much stronger than pepper spray, although I think they use the same basic ingredient. Each canister only has a few sprays, and a fairly limited range. They also seem to clog up pretty easily, and have to be frequently replaced.

 

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When dogs are around, I never leave the house unarmed

[JMFP 1113]

1 hour ago, irishtexan said:

 

4) You can also just call the cops/animal control if you see them off-leash. 

"Hello, Police? Yeah, uh, my 9 yr old was out driving the golf cart down Country Club Drive and there by the intersection of Sarasota Drive - the lady that lives near there has two dogs loose. Could you send an officer? The loose dogs make me scared to let kids drive around the neighborhood." 

[Armybrat 40559]

4 hours ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

 

 Dogs judge character lol. Are you an idiot, or is this a bit?

 

 

[alincoln 2350]

Equipping unsupervised kids with bear spray will definitely end well.

 

 

[CoTex 1157]

Turkey terrorizes D.C. residents on bike trail, drawing blood and sowing fear – New York Daily News (nydailynews.com)

 

If there is one thing I know - this is not the turkey's fault - it's the owner's fault.  People should learn respect for the turkey, it's a better judge of character than any teacher.

[Covri 6155]

Just poison the dogs, problem solved. Or call APD to their house and they’ll take care of them.

 

I guess you could always install a gun rack if you’re kids are handy with the steel if you know what I mean, make them earn their keep.

 

[Dilligas 659]

20 hours ago, Brothahorn said:

Rooted for the pit bull in this one

Stupid fucks that gotta take their fucking animals  to a Home Depot 

 

[Chewbacca 7629]

Equipping unsupervised kids with bear spray will definitely end well.
 
 

It's what surly deserves. As long as we get the after story.

[4doorsMoreWhores 107]

4 hours ago, Covri said:

Just poison the dogs, problem solved. Or call APD to their house and they’ll take care of them.

 

I guess you could always install a gun rack if you’re kids are handy with the steel if you know what I mean, make them earn their keep.

 

Mount up!

[crash_davis 23056]

Postal worker's van broke down on rural road. 5 dogs (look like pits or mix breed pits) broke loose from their yard and mauled the lady to death. Docs had to amputate an arm trying to save her. Fuck the dog owners. They should die by getting mauled to death.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/florida-postal-carrier-dead-was-mauled-5-dogs-rcna44532

 

A U.S. Postal Service carrier who was attacked by five dogs in Putnam County, Florida, has died, a sheriff's official said.

Pamela Jane Rock, 61, died at a hospital Monday night, the day after the vicious attack, which a neighbor tried to stop by firing into the air, sheriff’s Col. Joseph Wells said Tuesday at a news conference.

"One neighbor brought his firearm along and fired several shots in the air in an attempt to disrupt the attack," Wells said. "That was unsuccessful."

[Chewbacca 7629]

My BIL took their puppy to the dog park last night.  As soon as they went in, a pit bull (apparently owned by a homeless man) made a bee line for the puppy and tried to kill him - had him by the throat and was rag dolling him.  BIL got his hands all torn up saving his dog.  Gotta love pits.

[crash_davis 23056]

What's more useless to society? Homeless leeches or pit bulls?

[Brothahorn 10079]

What's more useless to society? Homeless leeches or pit bulls?

I've heard that the pits can be rescued and retrained.

[NorthLoop 13954]

"I guarantee you that none of those were technically pits" - every pit owner 

[Jkwellborn 6601]

"I guarantee you that none of those were technically pits" - every pit owner 

Gotta do genetic testing.

[Steel Shank 9338]

Quote

"One neighbor brought his firearm along and fired several shots in the air in an attempt to disrupt the attack," Wells said. "That was unsuccessful."

Dumbass should have started shooting dogs.

[crash_davis 23056]

1 minute ago, Steel Shank said:

Dumbass should have started shooting dogs.

and then the owner.

[closetohumping 17302]

5 hours ago, crash_davis said:

Postal worker's van broke down on rural road. 5 dogs (look like pits or mix breed pits) broke loose from their yard and mauled the lady to death. Docs had to amputate an arm trying to save her. Fuck the dog owners. They should die by getting mauled to death.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/florida-postal-carrier-dead-was-mauled-5-dogs-rcna44532

 

A U.S. Postal Service carrier who was attacked by five dogs in Putnam County, Florida, has died, a sheriff's official said.

Pamela Jane Rock, 61, died at a hospital Monday night, the day after the vicious attack, which a neighbor tried to stop by firing into the air, sheriff’s Col. Joseph Wells said Tuesday at a news conference.

"One neighbor brought his firearm along and fired several shots in the air in an attempt to disrupt the attack," Wells said. "That was unsuccessful."

Mail truck broke down?  I smell a lawsuit

[cmontexas 3227]

I've seen some stupid posts on the internet in my time but the guy on here talking about dogs being good judges of character is wow, chefs kiss

[Deej 76219]

You take any group of dogs that is poorly trained, or not trained at all, and let them run loose in a pack, bad shit is gonna happen if they aren't small enough to punt across three yards.

 

[NorthLoop 13954]

14 hours ago, Deej said:

You take any group of dogs that is poorly trained, or not trained at all, and let them run loose in a pack, bad shit is gonna happen if they aren't small enough to punt across three yards.

 

 

as predictable as the Austin forcefield. 

[crash_davis 23056]

14 hours ago, Deej said:

You take any group of dogs that is poorly trained, or not trained at all, and let them run loose in a pack, bad shit is gonna happen if they aren't small enough to punt across three yards.

 

Riddle me this. Why own fucking vicious animals who need to be trained out of their natural instinct kill everything in sight? 

What's the fucking point of owning said animals???????????????????????

To show how badass you are? What kind of fucked up insecurity is that?

[Deej 76219]

What I'm saying is that any group of good-sized dogs, that has shitty owner/s and allowed to roam free-range is a threat. But you guys keep doing you. I guess you feel good about some guy letting his pack of dogs run free around the neighborhood as long as they are some type of pit or pit mix. 

See, I can play your stupid fucking assumption game, too. 

[Cornpop 230]

9 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

Riddle me this. Why own fucking vicious animals who need to be trained out of their natural instinct kill everything in sight? 

What's the fucking point of owning said animals???????????????????????

To show how badass you are? What kind of fucked up insecurity is that?

For street cred

[crash_davis 23056]

4 minutes ago, Deej said:

What I'm saying is that any group of good-sized dogs, that has shitty owner/s and allowed to roam free-range is a threat. But you guys keep doing you. I guess you feel good about some guy letting his pack of dogs run free around the neighborhood as long as they are some type of pit or pit mix. 

See, I can play your stupid fucking assumption game, too. 

Except these were NOT a pack of wild, free running dogs. They were enclosed in a yard before they remembered that they are pits and broke free of fence to kill an innocent lady whose only crime was having a shitty job provided car.

The owner should be killed. Want to own killing machines which kill. Then suffer the same fucking consequence. This shit will make limp dick assholes think twice about owning pits.

[Deej 76219]

Owner should be charged appropriately. Owner should also make sure her fucking yard is escape-proof. It's not that difficult. I'm also willing to be it's not the first time the dogs escaped. 

[chainsaw 9668]

19 hours ago, Steel Shank said:

Dumbass should have started shooting dogs.

He'd have needed to been a very good shot to hit the dog but miss the victim.

[High Plains Drifter 10937]

2 hours ago, Deej said:

What I'm saying is that any group of good-sized dogs, that has shitty owner/s and allowed to roam free-range is a threat. But you guys keep doing you. I guess you feel good about some guy letting his pack of dogs run free around the neighborhood as long as they are some type of pit or pit mix. 

See, I can play your stupid fucking assumption game, too. 

 

Yeah, I can just picture a group of black labs with shitty owners getting out and almost ripping off someone's arm.

 

 

[Deej 76219]

2 minutes ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

Yeah, I can just picture a group of black labs with shitty owners getting out and almost ripping off someone's arm.

 

 

As someone who lives in a part of Austin where free-range dogs tends to be a thing, I'm just going to tell you to not turn your back on a loose dog just because it isn't a pit. Poorly raised and cared for dogs are a danger. 

[HenryJames 65567]

21 minutes ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

Yeah, I can just picture a group of black labs with shitty owners getting out and almost ripping off someone's arm.

 

 

They're more likely to start their own website or something.

[crash_davis 23056]

18 minutes ago, Deej said:

Poorly raised and cared for dogs are a danger. 

If we mistreated my wife's shih zhu, it may get out and lick your ankle to death. Menace-to-society!

[Deej 76219]

3 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

If we mistreated my wife's shih zhu, it may get out and lick your ankle to death. Menace-to-society!

I did say anything small enough to punt three yards over is the exception. 

[TexPx 2307]

[Steel Shank 9338]

9 hours ago, chainsaw said:

He'd have needed to been a very good shot to hit the dog but miss the victim.

How's the victim doing?

[chainsaw 9668]

20 minutes ago, Steel Shank said:

How's the victim doing?

Well seems like she was alive when they tried saving her life with an amputation. Pretty sure a gunshot wound would have complicated those failed efforts to save her life.

[Deej 76219]

Please don't get me wrong, I'd shoot a pit bull if he came after me. 

 

[Steel Shank 9338]

32 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

Well seems like she was alive when they tried saving her life with an amputation. Pretty sure a gunshot wound would have complicated those failed efforts to save her life.

I am capable of envisioning scenarios where a gun could be used to shoot dogs attacking a person without shooting the person being attacked. Would care be needed? Yes. Is it a crazy and violent scene? Yes. But doing nothing but firing a gun in the air seems a little weak.

 

[Deej 76219]

1 minute ago, Steel Shank said:

I am capable of envisioning scenarios where a gun could be used to shoot dogs attacking a person without shooting the person being attacked.

Unless it's a cop shooting.

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/courts/2022/08/23/testimony-begins-in-trial-of-arlington-cop-who-fatally-shot-woman-while-aiming-at-dog/