OU's next-to-last play

[Mikey4 2476]

Does anyone know what OU was trying to do on its next-to-last play? It's the one at about 41:20 in this video:

 

OU had 9 seconds to score and was starting on its own 25. Murray lined up in the slot on the bottom of the screen. Backup QB Austin Kendall took the snap and bobbled it, basically killing the play. It looks like the pass is supposed to go to Murray, because when Murray crosses, he puts up his hands as if to say, "where is the ball?"

 

Murray was open, hehad some room, and he had two blockers at the top of the screen. Thank goodness Kendall bobbled the snap. The last thing we needed in that situation was Murray in space. Frankly, I'm surprised no one called timeout when they lined up like that.

[sushihorn 3233]

The logical assumption is a double pass of some kind.  Either hook and lateral or throwing across to the opposite hash mark.

Edited October 9, 2018 by sushihorn

[kopp0e 1135]

1 minute ago, Mikey4 said:

 

Does anyone know what OU was trying to do on its next-to-last play? It's the one at about 41:20 in this video:

 

OU had 9 seconds to score and was starting on its own 25. Murray lined up in the slot on the bottom of the screen. Backup QB Austin Kendall took the snap and bobbled it, basically killing the play. It looks like the pass is supposed to go to Murray, because when Murray crosses, he puts up his hands as if to say, "where is the ball?"

 

Murray was open, hehad some room, and he had two blockers at the top of the screen. Thank goodness Kendall bobbled the snap. The last thing we needed in that situation was Murray in space. Frankly, I'm surprised no one called timeout when they lined up like that.

 

Probably a "longer version" of what OU did against Georgia in the Rose Bowl on touchdown pass to Mayfield...

[kopp0e 1135]

1 minute ago, sushihorn said:

The logical assumption is a double pass of some kind.

Pretty much... 

[Huckleberry 33062]

I think it was just a screen to Murray. It obviously wasn't going to be a double pass because it would have been a forward pass to Murray so he couldn't have thrown another forward pass (we weren't in Lubbock with the Tech/Houston refs).

[CoTex 1161]

Going off of experience, I would say they were trying to suck something, or find something to suck.  Seems like they succeeded.

[TKthunder2 4997]

IIRC we did call a timeout.

[Tex Long 4423]

I was looking for a slant to Ewok, followed by the Rugby action, except that Ewok woulda tried to do it all by himself.

[the idoit 165]

When they lined up I thought double pass and had Murray out there so he could see to throw a Big Ben. But Huck is correct. Screen in space.

[po elvis 2076]

i think it was to get a quick pass to Murray who could run to around midfield and step out of bounds so they have a shot at a hail mary to the endzone.

[deadshank 24653]

12 minutes ago, sushihorn said:

The logical assumption is a double pass of some kind.  Either hook and lateral or throwing across to the opposite hash mark.

Thank your for typing "hook and lateral" rather than "hook and ladder."  

[Bill Lumbergh 7177]

13 minutes ago, TKthunder2 said:

IIRC we did call a timeout.

Yes.  They lined up, we called a TO after seeing the formation, and they came back out in the same one. 

Whatever they run off of that, they were comfortable running it even after we saw how they lined up.  The bobbled snap is exactly why you don't sub anyone cold who has to touch the ball at a critical moment.  Riley got too cute. 

[NowThis 931]

Texas did the same in 2016 IIRC with Shane, the play lasted 40 seconds in real time as the clock ran out.

[Mikey4 2476]

i think it was to get a quick pass to Murray who could run to around midfield and step out of bounds so they have a shot at a hail mary to the endzone.

This seems right to me. A screen with blockers downfield. Murray then had 3 options: take it to the house, get within FG range and step out of bounds, or step out earlier and line up for the hail Mary. I like none of those options.

[Mikey4 2476]

Yes.  They lined up, we called a TO after seeing the formation, and they came back out in the same one. 
Whatever they run off of that, they were comfortable running it even after we saw how they lined up.  The bobbled snap is exactly why you don't sub anyone cold who has to touch the ball at a critical moment.  Riley got too cute. 

Aah, I missed that.

[Orange&White 5528]

As most of you saw, an ou reporter asked Riley about this exact play and asked him to explain what he was trying to do and Riley's response was a very curt, succinct, "No".

[pacman 7369]

If they had Brown on the opposite side of the field, trailing two yards behind Murray, they could have essily flipped the field with a backwards pass and taken it to the house.

They have a number of plays similar, look like they came from the flag football championship playbook.

Edited October 9, 2018 by pacman

[DaggerHorns 3085]

3 minutes ago, Orange&White said:

As most of you saw, an ou reporter asked Riley about this exact play and asked him to explain what he was trying to do and Riley's response was a very curt, succinct, "No".

Yeah, he did not want to answer that question.

His pussy wasn’t ready to take the loss yet.

[Huckleberry 33062]

For the record, I'm not sure it's been discussed here, but Gary Johnson needs a lot of love for his work on the actual last play of the game. Just as the lateral-fest was getting going he realized that Murray was drifting in the middle of the field with a couple of blockers and made a beeline straight toward him to basically play man-to-man defense on him like a basketball player. Classic ball-you-man position and it's why he was right there to jump on it at the end. I think he also drew a holding penalty on his way to cover Murray.

Just a great heads-up play by Johnson. Even if the coaches told him, which I have no idea if that's the case, it's still a great job not to lose your bearings and your assignment/responsibility in the middle of a play like that. And it takes a lot of discipline to run away from the ball in that situation to get your man.

Seriously, watch it again and just keep your eyes on Johnson.

imgur

Edited October 9, 2018 by Huckleberry

[ClubWhatever 12154]

On the last kickoff they had a dude (M Brown?) lie down in the end zone a la TCU against pOSU but Warehime emerged from a port a potty and screamed about it to a ref.  Not sure if lying down on a kickoff is illegal.  Anyway the refs made him leave the game due to missing or messed up knee pads.  [insert kneepad joke here].  Oklahoma would have been better served returning the kickoff instead of fair catching it.  The odds of a TD runback are much better than the odds of scoring from the 25 with 2 plays.

[Vertigo 20303]

4 minutes ago, ClubWhatever said:

On the last kickoff they had a dude (M Brown?) lie down in the end zone a la TCU against pOSU but Warehime emerged from a port a potty and screamed about it to a ref.  Not sure if lying down on a kickoff is illegal.  Anyway the refs made him leave the game due to missing or messed up knee pads.  [insert kneepad joke here].  Oklahoma would have been better served returning the kickoff instead of fair catching it.  The odds of a TD runback are much better than the odds of scoring from the 25 with 2 plays.

Wait, are you implying that Warehime did something good? I don’t think I like your tone.

[Huckleberry 33062]

2 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

Wait, are you implying that Warehime did something good? I don’t think I like your tone.

I don't know, I think most surly posters would be happy if Warehime changed roles and became our designated "spot uniform violations by the other team" coach instead of position coach. Seems like he might have a knack for that sort of thing if the story is accurate.

[Guest]

44 minutes ago, deadshank said:

Thank your for typing "hook and lateral" rather than "hook and ladder."  

Goddamnit this drives me nuts. We are not talking about a fucking fire engine. We are talking about a hook, or curl route, and then a lateral. People who say “hook and ladder” are lazy tards. 

[Pato del Muerto 52555]

2 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Goddamnit this drives me nuts. We are not talking about a fucking fire engine. We are talking about a hook, or curl route, and then a lateral. People who say “hook and ladder” are lazy tards. 

It’s just the evolution of the term. Do you get upset when someone posts sluggo instead of slant and go?

[Ghost of Shag 2615]

18 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

For the record, I'm not sure it's been discussed here, but Gary Johnson needs a lot of love for his work on the actual last play of the game. Just as the lateral-fest was getting going he realized that Murray was drifting in the middle of the field with a couple of blockers and made a beeline straight toward him to basically play man-to-man defense on him like a basketball player. Classic ball-you-man position and it's why he was right there to jump on it at the end. I think he also drew a holding penalty on his way to cover Murray.

Just a great heads-up play by Johnson. Even if the coaches told him, which I have no idea if that's the case, it's still a great job not to lose your bearings and your assignment/responsibility in the middle of a play like that. And it takes a lot of discipline to run away from the ball in that situation to get your man.

Seriously, watch it again and just keep your eyes on Johnson.

imgur

Nice find.  That's either really intelligent play, or heads-up coaching.  

[taybo20 2878]

Yeah @Huckleberry big props to Gary. He wasn't letting that fuck out of his sight. Very smart play.

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

It’s just the evolution of the term. Do you get upset when someone posts sluggo instead of slant and go?

It’s totally different that sluggo. Sluggo is totally logical. Hook and ladder is a total misunderstanding of what one is saying because they are lazy and undoubtedly are fat. 

[deadshank 24653]

15 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

It’s totally different that sluggo. Sluggo is totally logical. Hook and ladder is a total misunderstanding of what one is saying because they are lazy and undoubtedly are fat. 

and ugly.

[JBJ 3664]

58 minutes ago, ClubWhatever said:

On the last kickoff they had a dude (M Brown?) lie down in the end zone a la TCU against pOSU but Warehime emerged from a port a potty and screamed about it to a ref.  Not sure if lying down on a kickoff is illegal.  Anyway the refs made him leave the game due to missing or messed up knee pads.  [insert kneepad joke here].  Oklahoma would have been better served returning the kickoff instead of fair catching it.  The odds of a TD runback are much better than the odds of scoring from the 25 with 2 plays.

Someone correct me if wrong but there was a rules clarification 1-2 years ago that this would be called Unsportmanlike Conduct, 15 yards.

The refs treated it like an injury substitution: the player went down before the kick and had to sub out a play.

Edited October 9, 2018 by JBJ

[Bobby_Batronic 1994]

1 hour ago, Huckleberry said:

I think it was just a screen to Murray. It obviously wasn't going to be a double pass because it would have been a forward pass to Murray so he couldn't have thrown another forward pass (we weren't in Lubbock with the Tech/Houston refs).

The second pass could have been a lateral. I think Auburn used a play like this in a near loss to Alabama or Georgia at the end of the game. 

It didn’t quite work, but was set up beautifully. Murray catches the ball and the entire defense swarms to him as he throws a lateral across the field or something similar to a wide open skill player with blockers in tow. 

[rickyspub 801]

I am pretty sure they had to put Murray close to their sideline so he could dry his tears before the snap.

[The Triple Lindy 56]

1 hour ago, Ghost of Shag said:

Nice find.  That's either really intelligent play, or heads-up coaching.  

 No doubt. The ball was rolling right to the Ewok.

Edited October 9, 2018 by The Triple Lindy