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17 minutes ago, satyanash said:

The real takeaway is that LSU has somehow managed to get through the Title XI scandal and Miles' indiscretions with zero firings and relatively little backlash. Incredible.

False.  Did you fail to notice their self-imposed bowl ban for 2020?

 

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On 3/8/2021 at 3:59 PM, MAUFRAIS said:

should we set up cajuny gmails and email in to their AD to say we are alumni and donors and we're going to go down and run them over and feed their bodies to alligators and then open record request that?

think about it for a minute

do you think anyone with common sense could fake up emails crazier than the shit real LSU fans are already sending?.....and yes that even included members of this forum

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On 3/24/2021 at 12:14 PM, Machinator said:

 

 

Paul Finebaum reacts to allegations about Ed Orgeron

Adam Spencer | 2 days ago

The Husch Blackwell report, commissioned by LSU, has had ramifications all across college sports.

Les Miles and Jeff Long lost their jobs at Kansas and F. King Alexander recently resigned as Oregon State’s president. Also, as part of the fallout from the report, a woman recently called out current LSU coach Ed Orgeron for lying about what he knew about a case involving Derrius Guice.

During a radio appearance on Monday morning, SEC Network host Paul Finebaum weighed in on the allegations and what this means for LSU and Coach O (via 247Sports):

“Until now, Coach O had been a footnote. His name came up very early on, and then it faded away,” Finebaum said Monday during his weekly appearance on WJOX-FM. “In the last couple of weeks, it’s been Les Miles all the time. Now, Coach O is back in the forefront again. It’s a dangerous position to be in. This is not some outlier situation here. This is a person that sounds to have some credibility.

“It’s not like she’s calling Ed Orgeron a liar about whether they argued about a parking spot and he said he was there first and she said ‘no I was there first.’ This is serious stuff. When you start looking around at how the university has been perceived and what has happened elsewhere as a result, yes, it puts Orgeron clearly on the frontburner as opposed to the backburner.”

This isn’t a good look for Coach O or LSU. We’ll see if anything comes of these allegations moving forward. 

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Paul Finebaum reacts to allegations about Ed Orgeron

Adam Spencer | 2 days ago

The Husch Blackwell report, commissioned by LSU, has had ramifications all across college sports.

Les Miles and Jeff Long lost their jobs at Kansas and F. King Alexander recently resigned as Oregon State’s president. Also, as part of the fallout from the report, a woman recently called out current LSU coach Ed Orgeron for lying about what he knew about a case involving Derrius Guice.

During a radio appearance on Monday morning, SEC Network host Paul Finebaum weighed in on the allegations and what this means for LSU and Coach O (via 247Sports):

“Until now, Coach O had been a footnote. His name came up very early on, and then it faded away,” Finebaum said Monday during his weekly appearance on WJOX-FM. “In the last couple of weeks, it’s been Les Miles all the time. Now, Coach O is back in the forefront again. It’s a dangerous position to be in. This is not some outlier situation here. This is a person that sounds to have some credibility.

“It’s not like she’s calling Ed Orgeron a liar about whether they argued about a parking spot and he said he was there first and she said ‘no I was there first.’ This is serious stuff. When you start looking around at how the university has been perceived and what has happened elsewhere as a result, yes, it puts Orgeron clearly on the frontburner as opposed to the backburner.”

This isn’t a good look for Coach O or LSU. We’ll see if anything comes of these allegations moving forward. 

Meanwhile LSU still employees two people complicit in the report.

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On 3/24/2021 at 12:14 PM, Machinator said:

 

How is this real? He just publically admitted 1. He didn't even interview some of his previous assistants. 2. One of his new hires was the 4th or 5th choice. 3. I didn't understand the rest..

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On 4/2/2021 at 8:51 PM, Tex-19 said:

How is this real? He just publically admitted 1. He didn't even interview some of his previous assistants. 2. One of his new hires was the 4th or 5th choice. 3. I didn't understand the rest..

I understood the whole thing.   

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can we have their croots now?
Had dinner tonight with a vendor that is a doner from BR. He was completely aware and said all of it is terrible. But he was certain that they may lose a bowl game or a few schollies and that is it. Also said no players of significance was bailing.

I don't follow lsu but after listening their qb room is like a lot of WR rooms. Got dang they have a ton of them. How nice that would be.

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2 hours ago, GabrielsHorn said:

They deserve the death penalty. Also, fuck the national media protecting LSU / Coach O.

What they deserve and what they get are two different things. If PSU and Baylor didnt get it, neither will LSU. Remember, the ncaa is just an extension of the colleges and universities that oversee the ncaa. Emmert is appointed by and answers to the ncaa Board of governors, which is basically comprised of  university presidents. If there was an appetite to see the death penalty handed out again, it would be done. 

I think every power 5 administration is terrified about the financial ramifications of the death penalty happening at their schools, so I doubt you will ever see it again.  The pressure to win is immense and the financial stakes are high. They all probably want to believe their staffs are going to do the correct thing, but I doubt they are a 100% certain. So they shut the fuck up and remain mum on the topic 

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LSU conspired to cover up reports of sexual misconduct and dating violence, new lawsuit claims

Kenny Jacoby and Nancy Armour

USA TODAY         April 26, 2021

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2021/04/26/lsu-conspired-cover-up-sexual-misconduct-seven-women-claim-suit/7381875002/

 

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First and 10: LSU mess is beyond disturbing, but there's still a way for Ed Orgeron to survive it 

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1. I don’t want to get on a soapbox, but …

Let’s get this out of the way right now: The only thing that keeps Ed Orgeron from coaching LSU in the 2021 season is evidence that directly ties him to coverup of sexual misconduct within his program, past or present.

I’m not declaring right or wrong; I’m explaining process.

Because no matter how sordid and surreal LSU’s handling of sexual misconduct accusations against players, no matter how many investigations are opened (a federal Title IX investigation was announced last week), highly successful coaches in college sports aren’t fired unless there’s undeniable and verifiable proof of injurious behavior.

And right now, at this point in the investigation, it’s one word against another. She said vs. he said.

It’s the 71-year-old victim who says she spoke with Orgeron about former player Derrius Guice’s sexual harassment, and that Orgeron ignored it.

And it’s Orgeron, who says he never directly spoke to the victim, and then last week released audio from a phone call from a person representing the victim that can only be described as a shakedown for payment to make the mess go away.

Does that phone call mean Orgeron never directly spoke to the victim as he claims? No, but it does offer background to Orgeron’s letter of testimony to the state of Louisiana Senate committee investigating the university’s handling of sexual misconduct.

In the letter, Orgeron said he was given a number to call to speak to the victim, and brought Guice into his office to apologize. When Orgeron called, he says a man answered and said the victim didn’t want an apology — she didn’t want Guice to play in LSU’s bowl game.

Orgeron said he was told by the man who answered the phone that if Orgeron didn’t agree to those terms, the victim didn’t want to speak to him. Orgeron says the conversation ended without speaking to the victim, and he wasn’t prepared to suspend Guice without “obtaining more thorough information.”

Two rape allegations against Guice, and another allegation that he took nude photos of a woman without her consent, were reported to LSU officials prior to the harassment incident.

Orgeron, according to the Husch Blackwell report on LSU’s response to sexual misconduct, has not been mentioned in any coverup of those incidents.

“An absolute cluster—,” an LSU source told me.

The moment Orgeron knew of a sexual harassment complaint against Guice, he should’ve called then-athletic director Joe Alleva and let Alleva deal with it. For their own legal cover, coaches are not judge and jury once problems arise outside the team function.

One player can’t bring down a program and a coaching career. The response to allegations against one player can.

Orgeron knew Guice did something inappropriate – he may or may not have known the extent — or he wouldn’t have had Guice with him in his office to apologize to the victim. Instead, Guice played in the bowl game.

Here’s the key: If LSU were coming off back-to-back losing seasons under Orgeron, the aforementioned scenario – Orgeron deciding punishment for alleged sexual misconduct – would more than likely be enough for dismissal.

But he’s two years removed from winning the national championship, from doing something so rare (beating college football king Alabama and Nick Saban) in the process.

That, everyone, is Orgeron’s last line of defense. Because in this day and age with the heightened awareness of sexual misconduct, a coach simply doesn’t survive such a ham-handed response to a significant allegation.

Remember, these aren’t NCAA allegations, they’re human rights violations.

A statement season in 2021 just became critical for Orgeron. If he does survive to coach – and he will unless there’s proof he did talk to the victim and knew the gravity of the allegations – he has reached the level of zero tolerance on and off the field.

The only way out: winning big again.

Because nothing makes most every problem go away in big time college sports quite like winning championships.

2. Coordinating moves

Right around the time the allegations of systemic failure in response to sexual misconduct became a reality at LSU, Orgeron admitted during a Zoom call that some coaches he hired from last year’s staff weren’t interviewed.

That’s right, weren’t interviewed.

“I’m never doing that again,” Orgeron said.

It’s hard to imagine a coach who made every right move in 2019, who grew so significantly as a head coach that he was moving toward the elite of the game, doing almost the exact opposite in 2020 before a few late corrections and a change in quarterback (more on that later) allowed the Tigers to win 3 of their last 5 and finish the season 5-5.

Orgeron never said which assistant coaches weren’t interviewed, but he’s replacing both coordinators and the dots can be connected.

No matter what you think of Bo Pelini (defensive coordinator) and Scott Linehan (pass game coordinator, it was going to be difficult for the Tigers to replace all that talent (14 players drafted by the NFL) from the national championship season (and a handful of COVID opt-out starters) and still play at a high level in the SEC.

That’s what made the current coordinator hires so critical. They’re hand-picked by Orgeron, and one LSU source told me they went through a “highly detailed” interview process.

More than anything, they’re coordinators who will make or break Orgeron moving forward at LSU.

Former LSU pass game coordinator Joe Brady recommended OC Jake Peetz to Orgeron, and Orgeron interviewed numerous candidates before hiring DC Daronte Jones. Half of the staff has turned over from last season, and LSU has new coordinators on both sides of the ball for the first time since Nick Saban arrived as coach in 2000.

“You’ve got some young coordinators that want to prove themselves,” Orgeron said. “I can already see the difference in this team, as far as execution and practice.”

One LSU source told me Orgeron thinks Peetz can have a Brady-like impact on the offense. But Orgeron will no longer be hands-off when it comes to the defense.

He made his bones coaching defense, and said in March that he, “kind of stayed out of it” in 2020. Not so much for 2021: “If I see something I don’t like, we’re not doing it.”

The last time he intervened with coordinators was a disaster. But that was his first season as head coach in 2017, and it was Matt Canada’s misdirection offense that wasn’t a good fit for the program.

This time, the defense is more in his wheelhouse.

“I’m not going to let things slip up. Not one thing,” Orgeron said. “I’m going to identify it. I told the coaches that.”

3. Righting the ship, The Epilogue

This season will be successful if the quarterback play is successful, as most football seasons at any level are.

And wouldn’t you know it, Orgeron poked his head in there, too.

He didn’t make philosophical changes or force schemes and situational play (like he did with Canada), he just had one mandate: Sophomore Max Johnson would get the first snap when spring practice began.

Orgeron said he and Peetz agreed that all four quarterbacks – sophomores Johnson and TJ Finley, freshman Garrett Nussmeier and senior Myles Brennan, last year’s starter before a season-ending core injury – would get work with the first team.

While Orgeron hasn’t revealed a starter – and likely won’t so all four push each other in the summer – the job likely comes down to Johnson vs. Brennan. Johnson was 2-0 in two starts last season, including a win at Florida.

Brennan played well in his three starts and delivered impressive numbers. But for a horrific effort from the LSU defense, he played well enough to be 3-0 in his starts instead of 1-2.

“There’s no favorites,” Orgeron said earlier this spring, before later admitting, “there’s one quarterback that’s 2-0 on this campus.”

The football field is Orgeron’s purview. It’s where he has complete control.

Once he starts veering into other lanes outside football, trouble invariably awaits.

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/first-and-10-lsu-mess-is-beyond-disturbing-but-theres-still-a-way-for-ed-orgeron-to-survive-it/

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1 hour ago, Spider2YBanana said:

Just an awful, awful QB. It's almost impossible to suck at that position more than him. 

Brandon Harris and Anthony Jennings would like to talk to you. Those two buffoons were so bad it was just hard to watch that offense even as a neutral fan.

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1 hour ago, Cardinal12 said:

Brandon Harris and Anthony Jennings would like to talk to you. Those two buffoons were so bad it was just hard to watch that offense even as a neutral fan.

Yeah, they were pretty bad, but this dude looks like he's never thrown a football in his life. Wobbly ass ducks every time. I couldn't believe they just kept trotting him out there, but I guess with COVID they really didn't care since everyone gets a free RS. 

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LSU expected to hire Arkansas offensive line coach Brad Davis: reports

BY BROOKS KUBENA | STAFF WRITER    JUN 3, 2021

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LSU is expected to hire Arkansas offensive line coach Brad Davis to coach the same position in Baton Rouge, according to multiple reports.

Davis, a Baton Rouge native who graduated from Belaire High, had just finished his first season at Arkansas after spending the previous two years as Missouri's offensive line coach. Davis also received a pay bump to $650,000 in March, according to the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette.

News of the developing move was first reported by The Athletic, and it comes a day after LSU coach Ed Orgeron parted ways with former offensive line coach James Cregg after three seasons.

LSU parts ways with offensive line coach James Cregg after three seasons

LSU's official statement Wednesday did not include a reason for Cregg's departure. The timing of Cregg's exit was atypical for standard coaching transitions, which most commonly occur in the months after seasons end. It also gave Orgeron almost three months to hire a new offensive line coach before LSU's season begins at UCLA on Sept. 4.

Cregg's departure came just over a year since LSU's offensive line was given the Joe Moore Award in the 2019 season for nation's top blocking unit. The offensive line's production regressed in 2020 — a rocky 5-5 season in which the Tigers were inconsistent on offense and, on defense, gave up its most yards and points per game in school history.

Every starter on the offensive line is returning for the 2021 season, but Orgeron's re-recruitment of the players avoided a potential depth issue at the position. LSU signed two offensive linemen in the 2021 class: four-star offensive tackle Garrett Dellinger and three-star guard Kimo Makaneole.

There is a sense of urgency for Orgeron to right the program after its turbulent season, and, after Cregg's departure, only four assistant coaches remain from Orgeron's 2020 staff.

Davis, 41, has a resume that made him a top candidate for LSU. He's a former offensive lineman who started on Oklahoma's BCS national championship team in 2003. His 16-year collegiate coaching career includes several stops at Southeastern Conference programs — including a one-year stint at Florida in 2017 — which gives him extensive experience on the recruiting trail.

Davis also began his coaching career at Southern Lab in Baton Rouge, where he was an offensive line coach and co-offensive coordinator in 2003 and 2004.

Cregg was entering the final year of his most recent contract with LSU, which was set to pay him about $700,000 starting this year through the contract's expiration on March 31, 2022.

According to Cregg's most recent contract with LSU, if he is terminated by LSU without cause, the university must pay him the total remaining base salary and supplemental compensation in monthly installments equal to the amount of time remaining in the term.

 

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