2018 - 2019 Dallas Mavericks: Throw Some D's

[Post Oak 20568]

One thing to remember is they still have a 12 million trade exception that can be used for 1 year from the KP trade.

I'm not sure exactly how it works but I think it means they can be involved as a 3rd team in a trade to use the TE to make salaries work.

They may not be done. 

[Post Oak 20568]

2 minutes ago, CBT said:

 

Both with good games tonight.

 

They're so active and aren't ball stoppers.  I'd want both back.  They're winning players imo

[fellside 1135]

So now the Mavs have enough money to get Vucevic, who we were already rumored to want.

I don't think any other free agent is either realistic or worth the money we have. 

[Bozo_Casanova 26851]

Respect and good luck to Harrison. He did a lot in the community during his time here.

By all accounts a good guy and a good 2nd banana in the right situation, hopefully that’s Sacramento.

[Post Oak 20568]

 

 

[conVINCEd 21477]

Rick seems annoyed with this trade.

[Dr Fear 1290]

Just a salary dump?

Justin Jackson was the 14th pick in the 2017 draft, FWIW.

[gsoda3 3362]

Rick seems annoyed with this trade.

Did they ask him about it in the post game?

[Post Oak 20568]

Highlights last month vs GSW

[conVINCEd 21477]

2 minutes ago, gsoda3 said:

3 minutes ago, conVINCEd said:

Rick seems annoyed with this trade.

Did they ask him about it in the post game?

Yes.  Body language and tone were not good.

[RexWilson 1502]

4 minutes ago, gsoda3 said:

5 minutes ago, conVINCEd said:

Rick seems annoyed with this trade.

Did they ask him about it in the post game?

He was annoyed it got out the way it did and before he even had a chance to talk to HB

Edited February 7, 2019 by RexWilson

[Dr Fear 1290]

Yes.  Body language and tone were not good.

Is he ever not annoyed? He gets pissy during puff home town radio appearances.

[Post Oak 20568]

Id guess Ricks deal is he likes HB and wants to win now.  He thinks HB gives them a better shot than Justin Jackson

[Zepol87 9341]

That isn't great for the FO but I really like Jackson and hope Rick can do work with him

[conVINCEd 21477]

13 minutes ago, Post Oak said:

Id guess Ricks deal is he likes HB and wants to win now.  He thinks HB gives them a better shot than Justin Jackson

Agreed.  He also needs to realize that they aren’t winning anything meaningful this year.  I’m guessing we buy out Randolph???

[fellside 1135]

Not that it could ever happen, but the perfect moment of irony would be if KD chose Dallas over New York this summer because he wants to play with Luka and KP.  I think that might actually end the Knicks franchise.

[Pato del Muerto 53504]

Let’s sign kd and not give a shit about the knicks 

[RexWilson 1502]

Waived Mejri to make the trade work. He and Luka were close.

[Don Johnson 4847]

 

[LurkingHorn 1093]

We just going to pretend that Luka didn't get another triple-double last night? 

[Trey3216 15452]

Feel kinda bad for HB on the way things leaked out and that it was during a game.  For all intensive porpoises, he's been a really good teammate and a great representative of the community since he's been in Dallas.  I wish him the best, and admire his staying courtside after the fact.  Good on him.  

[Dr Fear 1290]

2 hours ago, RexWilson said:

Waived Mejri to make the trade work. He and Luka were close.

Zach Randolph is gonna get bought out, I am no expert on the rules, but we could see Mejri back if he clears waivers.

[Drew 2929]

Yeah Salah will be back if he clears waivers.

[RexWilson 1502]

Randolph will be bought out. Mejri isn't sure he wants to return because of the lack of playing time he had been getting.

[Dr Fear 1290]

Good for Wes.

[gsoda3 3362]

what's his buyout amount?

[JimmyJames 12271]

Trading a guy who has been a good teammate in the middle of a game is pretty bush league. How did that happen to get out? 

[CBT 1290]

He knew he was probably getting traded and was given the choice to play or sit. Hardly bush league.

[LurkingHorn 1093]

10 minutes ago, CBT said:

He knew he was probably getting traded and was given the choice to play or sit. Hardly bush league.

Do people actually try to get the story? Good grief. 

[dcar00 14971]

1 hour ago, JimmyJames said:

Trading a guy who has been a good teammate in the middle of a game is pretty bush league. How did that happen to get out? 

his agent was involved in the talks and Barnes knew it might happen very soon. he chose to play. once it is done it is going to leak. Lebron of course goes bitchmode without knowing the facts.  Everyone was very aware of what was going on.

[JimmyJames 12271]

Just about every player knows they 

6 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

his agent was involved in the talks and Barnes knew it might happen very soon. he chose to play. once it is done it is going to leak. Lebron of course goes bitchmode without knowing the facts.  Everyone was very aware of what was going on.

He chose to play because he hadn’t been traded. Which of course is the right thing to do. Anything “might” happen.

So was he traded in the middle of a game or not? 

[dcar00 14971]

2 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

Just about every player knows they 

He chose to play because he hadn’t been traded. Which of course is the right thing to do. Anything “might” happen.

So was he traded in the middle of a game or not? 

yes but Barnes already knew.  see the article from espn.  so did he already know or not?  His fucking agent was involved. what is "bush league" when your own agent is involved and agreed to the timing.

Barnes' agent, Jeff Schwartz, told ESPN's Paul Pierce that he and the Mavericks were working on a trade and Barnes knew that something was in the works with Sacramento. The timing was agreed upon during the game, according to Schwartz, and Barnes wanted to play.

[JimmyJames 12271]

2 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

yes but Barnes already knew.  see the article from espn.  so did he already know or not?  His fucking agent was involved. what is "bush league" when your own agent is involved and agreed to the timing.

Barnes' agent, Jeff Schwartz, told ESPN's Paul Pierce that he and the Mavericks were working on a trade and Barnes knew that something was in the works with Sacramento. The timing was agreed upon during the game, according to Schwartz, and Barnes wanted to play.

So basically they were working on a trade but hadn’t finalized it before the game, so he correctly wanted to play. Then for some reason it got finalized duringthe game and he went out and put on street clothes. 

If that’s how it went down then yeah it’s bush league. Wait a fucking hour to get it done so he doesn’t sit the rest of the game. Or is there some other explanation for why he played then sat out?

 

 

 

[dcar00 14971]

Just now, JimmyJames said:

So basically they were working on a trade but hadn’t finalized it before the game, so he correctly wanted to play. Then for some reason it got finalized duringthe game and he went out and put on street clothes. 

If that’s how it went down then yeah it’s bush league. Wait a fucking hour to get it done so he doesn’t sit the rest of the game. Or is there some other explanation for why he played then sat out?

 

 

 

then he should fire his agent...I'm not sure what you are arguing.  his own fucking agent agreed to the timing. 

[JimmyJames 12271]

Just now, dcar00 said:

then he should fire his agent...I'm not sure what you are arguing.  his own fucking agent agreed to the timing. 

Well if true that’s totally bizarre.

[dcar00 14971]

1 minute ago, JimmyJames said:

Well if true that’s totally bizarre.

you might want to quit being an ass and read something.  its in the ESPN article with them quoting his agent.  he knew it was in the works for days and the mavs didn't want him to play but he wanted to.  this is a big non event because Barnes knew it could happen at any time and his agent was directly involved.  everyone is fine except for bitchmode LeBron.  Barnes is in a better situation anyway and was not surprised by the trade.

[JimmyJames 12271]

7 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

you might want to quit being an ass and read something.  its in the ESPN article with them quoting his agent.  he knew it was in the works for days and the mavs didn't want him to play but he wanted to.  this is a big non event because Barnes knew it could happen at any time and his agent was directly involved.  everyone is fine except for bitchmode LeBron.  Barnes is in a better situation anyway and was not surprised by the trade.

I haven’t read anything that said the mavs didn’t want him to play. If you have such an article I’d be happy to read it. The unusual thing here is a trade being finalized in the very middle of a game, causing a player to then sit out the rest of it. Who cares what people thought might happen eventually. 

[dcar00 14971]

14 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

I haven’t read anything that said the mavs didn’t want him to play. If you have such an article I’d be happy to read it. The unusual thing here is a trade being finalized in the very middle of a game, causing a player to then sit out the rest of it. Who cares what people thought might happen eventually. 

his agent was aware of everything as was Barnes.  they knew it could happen at any time.

Following the game, Paul Pierce said on ESPN that Barnes was aware he was being shopped by the Mavericks, and there was a possibility he could be moved as soon as Wednesday night — but he asked to play anyway.

[Vic Mackey 47959]

Pretty crazy

[Post Oak 20568]

So Locked on Mavs podcast guessed that Donnie could use the trade exception at the draft in exchange for an asset (picks maybe) to make a deal work.

 

Seems like we are going to be all quiet until then.  Unless I'm missing something.

[fellside 1135]

21 minutes ago, Post Oak said:

So Locked on Mavs podcast guessed that Donnie could use the trade exception at the draft in exchange for an asset (picks maybe) to make a deal work.

 

Seems like we are going to be all quiet until then.  Unless I'm missing something.

The problem with this is it would use up some of our cap room and I'm pretty sure they want to go get Vucevic or Mirotic or someone.

 

[cmontexas 3371]

Vucevic would be a good signing if this was 2006. Against the good teams in the West in the current era we would only be able to keep one of him and Porzingis on the floor at a time. Give me Bogdan and Danny Green or Redick and then Dragic

[Bigpoppapump 535]

Could you imagine the melt if kawleo wanted to come to Dallas.

[Post Oak 20568]

I don't see us as players for the big 5 or so FAs.  I'd make a run at Brogdon and someone else

[CBT 1290]

It’s going to be KD.

[Don Johnson 4847]

When you have a trade that you really like a few hours before the deadline, you pull the trigger and get it done no matter the timing.  I also assume once a trade is agreed upon, you would always pull a player from a game to avoid the risk of a freak injury that would spoil the whole thing. 

You don't delay the trade until after the game, because then Sacramento is playing a late game, and you'd have to delay it until after their game, next thing you know its 4 hours later and some team has called and muddied the water for the deal you liked.

[Drew 2929]

I really don't understand why Vucevic wouldn't be a good fit.  Especially in the Modern NBA.  He's not a back to basket slow big.  He rebounds and can score on his own. he and KP actually offset as KP is a better rim protector and Vuc is a better Rebounder...both will be great with Luka.

 

Having said that if they go get Brogdon and probably another player to fill out the starting lineup and fit better on the team, I'm all for it.  I can't wait to see the Mavs fan bemoan ANOTHER off season of dreaming of Big Fish, and not getting them though.  I honestly think the Cap Space is best used as it was this year...to absorb bad contracts to get a really good player(like the Knicks trade for KP).

[conVINCEd 21477]

Give me an uber-athletic wing and someone who can play above average defense against pg’s and bang home open 3’s.  Bring back Powell, Maxi, and DFS.

[Post Oak 20568]

I just think its too many bigs and Vuc is somewhat redundant with KP and MK and I think defensively it would be a problem.  But that's just me.  However, I would give my left nut for someone like Montrezl Harrell. 

 

Also, I've been watching Justin Jackson highlights and I'm not sure he cant be a pretty good player.  Quick release.  Good athlete.  Seems to be a smart player who isn't a ball stopper.  I think he fits pretty well.  Of course, I'm drunk on the Mav kool-aid right now.

 

[Drew 2929]

6 minutes ago, conVINCEd said:

Give me an uber-athletic wing and someone who can play above average defense against pg’s and bang home open 3’s.  Bring back Powell, Maxi, and DFS.

Well we're going to see what it's like with just Powell and Maxi as our only real bigs for the rest of the year(Dirk can't play enough to really be counted, particularly on Defense). So we'll see.

 

I'm not sure KP is a true defensive shut down defender.  He'll block shots for sure.