2017-18 Spurs Thread: Probably no buckets for Kawhi

[EvilCaseMcCoy 692]

49 minutes ago, Kermit said:

He’s still under contract until 2019. Dude ain’t going anywhere without the Spurs being highly compensated.

So it's either, Kawhi holds out this year, signs the super max and returns to spurs or Kawhi holds out this year, signs the super max and spurs get lots of pieces?  I'm OK with those two scenarios.  

[SW Horn 7]

I never even watch of a minute of the playoffs once the Spurs are out.  My wife is a Rockets fan, so I have to act like I am cheering for them.  It actually wouldn't be bad to see them knock off the Warriors in the WCF only to see them lose in the Finals.  And even if they do end up winning, I would rather them win it than GS. I fucking hate that team.

Fuck that. Then you have Lebron winning again. Toronto will choke per usual. Houston is the far less evil of the 3, IMO.

[BurdineBandit 846]

13 hours ago, F250 said:

Michelle Beadle called into an SA ESPN radio show today and discussed the Woj story. The conversation became pretty grim really fast. She kept emphasizing how weird the whole situation is and that Kawhi's behavior looks like he doesn't plan on staying. I had to pull my truck over on the side of the road to cry for a few minutes because it she was pointing out what has been running through the back of my mind.

 

I have the optimistic and pessimistic view on the situation, and each one makes about equal sense to me:

1. Kawhi is focused on the money and the new contract extension rn, which I don't like, because it's such a far cry from how our stars of the past have acted as members of the Spurs organization, and I also feel it tells us a bit about how great he will truly strive to be now that he's already reached Top 5 in NBA status.

2. Kawhi is introverted and as an opinion I read on PtR stated, maybe he is still learning how to be a leader (which he was only starting to come into last year), and still doesn't know how to be vocal to his teammates about this type of situation. He's never been in it before, but it would explain the passive-aggressive shit coming from Tony and Manu's apparent frustration. Danny and Pop and some others (BP) have stated that everyone is on the same page, and I'd like to believe that, maybe the old guys are just extra frustrated because their swan song is being wasted.

Either way, best case scenario is we re-sign him, retool the roster to not have 3 guards that are 6'2" or shorter and shit defenders, and hopefully next year we read more headlines about Dejounte other than "Dejounte can REBOUND OMG" and he actually develops into someone who can facilitate an offense. IMHO, I came into the season and especially into 2018 very hesitant about Dejounte as a starter, and I don't think he's improved all that much since being inserted into the starting role, he still has a half-reliable floater, and is very inconsistent as a shooter. He hustles, is long, and gets rebounds, but that's the same as when we started the season.

[purplepride95 6890]

20 hours ago, PilotsError said:

Fuck Pops.   He came out as anti second amendment.  Hope he collapses on the court.

Counting the numbers of times you can kiss his ass.

Edited March 29, 2018 by purplepride95

[Gut Wagon 8219]

3 hours ago, SW Horn said:

Fuck that. Then you have Lebron winning again. Toronto will choke per usual. Houston is the far less evil of the 3, IMO.

If SA doesn't win, I'm hoping the Sixers, Raptors or Blazers do.   

Edited March 29, 2018 by Gut Wagon
Can't arrange my thoughts today....

[Chad 1728]

The Kawhi situation looks grimmer with each and every passing week. Manu and Tony haven't exactly supported Kawhi recently and those guys are the veteran leaders of the team so they're likely not just speaking for themselves but the team as a whole. LMA seemed all but destined to leave at one point, but this season he's been the glue holding a fractured team together so whatever is going on with Kawhi can be salvaged.

[Horn of Gabriel 1886]

My main worry at this point is that we'll be too shitty to do anything in the playoffs, but too good to get anything decent via draft.  KL is incredible, but is there any precedent for this type of injury having a year+ rehab?

[Kermit 3162]

18 minutes ago, Chad said:

The Kawhi situation looks grimmer with each and every passing week. Manu and Tony haven't exactly supported Kawhi recently and those guys are the veteran leaders of the team so they're likely not just speaking for themselves but the team as a whole. LMA seemed all but destined to leave at one point, but this season he's been the glue holding a fractured team together so whatever is going on with Kawhi can be salvaged.

If he leaves, there will be a reckoning in the media where anonymous sources lay his shit bare. Or un-anonymous in the case of Tony Parker.

[Kermit 3162]

I really, really, really hate Reggie Miller. I would rather my wife have Mark Jackson’s voice than to ever hear Reggie’s voice again.

[Lat22 4082]

GD free throws.

[Radical Larry 28819]

That foul on Murray was straight bullshit.

[hornfan785 570]

Bullshit. What is Murray supposed to do in that situation?

[Radical Larry 28819]

Nice shot, Russ. 

[hornfan785 570]

Lulz Westbrook airball

[Radical Larry 28819]

[Longhorn5005 33]

Big win. Fuck the thunder

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[NoRagrets 1137]

Koolaide perspective:

LA's reemergence coincides with a 100% max Long term contract KL and a B+ free agent grab and we win it all in 2019

[F250 29195]

14 hours ago, EvilCaseMcCoy said:

I had a dream Timmy came out of retirement and helped us make the playoffs.  Kawhi came back and all was good.

 

This is the kind of dream people have after a loved one dies.

[Braff Zacklin 13676]

Whaddaya know? We hit from outside and win a game against a playoff team.

Nice all-around effort from DJM tonight. Still don't think he's much of a distributor/facilitator, but more performances like that and he'll convince me.

[Kermit 3162]

3 minutes ago, Braff Zacklin said:

Whaddaya know? We hit from outside and win a game against a playoff team.

Nice all-around effort from DJM tonight. Still don't think he's much of a distributor/facilitator, but more performances like that and he'll convince me.

He’s probably never going to be the facilitator Pop hopes he’ll be, but damn it if he isn’t one of the best defenders in the league at his position already. Kid works his ass off.

[Braff Zacklin 13676]

Hell, if the Kawhi situation somehow turns out OK for us, DJM doesn't need to be the primary distributor. If he can just develop a consistent J and outside shot, he'll be a force on both ends.

Manu and TP didn't have much of a shot when they were young, but they became effective enough that defenders couldn't just sag well inside the arc (OK, Manu more so than TP, of course, but you get the point).

[Amos Moses 795]

I honestly don’t care if DJM never develops a great jumper. As long as he keeps hustling on D, boards like a mad man, can dish efficiently and work his floater ... all good in the hood.

[kingkoopa6 8673]

GSG

[dingleberryswitzer 2724]

9 hours ago, Kermit said:

He’s probably never going to be the facilitator Pop hopes he’ll be, but damn it if he isn’t one of the best defenders in the league at his position already. Kid works his ass off.

Should be fine.  Its not like TP was a great distributor either.  Assuming we keep kawhi, much of the offense will run through him and LA.  

[Gut Wagon 8219]

That’s a great win. I know OKC isn’t some juggernaut, but after the way this week started, we really needed a W. I’ve come around to the idea that LMA needs to stay...which absolutely wasn’t my take last summer. 

[miguelito 11499]

Maybe having the Final Four in town will bring some mojo to the Spurs.

[BurdineBandit 846]

This season has really solidified my view of LMA as a true Spur. I don't know what else you could ever ask of him, he's taken this fiasco of a season and put the entire team on his back.

 

He said it himself... "it's winning time." So he showed up to work and dropped 25/11.

[Gut Wagon 8219]

1 hour ago, miguelito said:

Maybe having the Final Four in town will bring some mojo to the Spurs.

Villanova should feel free to just leave Bridges in SA. We'll find some use for him...especially if (shudder) Kawhi remains AWOL. 

[hornfan785 570]

[hornfan785 570]

 

[Kermit 3162]

13 minutes ago, hornfan785 said:

 

Already nutted but she won’t stop sucking...

[NoRagrets 1137]

22 hours ago, Gut Wagon said:

That’s a great win. I know OKC isn’t some juggernaut, but after the way this week started, we really needed a W. I’ve come around to the idea that LMA needs to stay...which absolutely wasn’t my take last summer. 

Ginobili loves him. That's all I need to know regarding his Spursiness. 

[miguelito 11499]

Ran into this guy this morning.  A new Tiff's Treats opened up near my house, and my wife's co-worker was doing a charity thing there for kids with cancer (https://www.strongerthandipg.org/ if you're interested).  About 10am, George pulled up in a F150.  I have to say, the line for cookies was a lot longer than the line for George.  But he was super friendly, shook everyone's hand, gave them an autographed picture, and posed for pictures. 

My wife and I are not in the picture.

 

[Patrick Bateman 3966]

Chris Paul out today.... maybe we can stay within 20.

Also this....

 

[Gut Wagon 8219]

Read the ESPN piece. Hard to say it suggests anything better or worse than what we already figured the situation was. 

[Patrick Bateman 3966]

Gotta go .500 to make the playoffs.... We start today.

Hou

@ LAL

@ LAC

Portland

Sac

@ NO

The LA trip are back to backs...... Can we do it?

You don't want to have to go to New Orleans with the playoffs on the line me thinks.....

 

 

Edited March 31, 2018 by Patrick Bateman

[Braff Zacklin 13676]

I think you might be a day off, Pat.

[Patrick Bateman 3966]

5 minutes ago, Braff Zacklin said:

I think you might be a day off, Pat.

Indeed..... starts tomorrow!!!

But point remains.... where we gonna get those 3 wins?

[Kermit 3162]

Jimmy Butler is going to make it back before Kawhi. Gordon Hayward will make it back before Kawhi. Embiid will make it back before Kawhi. Although somebody on Reddit posted Kawhi’s earnings if the Spurs super max him and I’m pretty sure based on those numbers that he’ll stay. I mean, $50 million a season?

https://mobile.twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/980151828326354946

 

 

Edited March 31, 2018 by Kermit

[Patrick Bateman 3966]

24 minutes ago, Kermit said:

Jimmy Butler is going to make it back before Kawhi. Gordon Hayward will make it back before Kawhi. Embiid will make it back before Kawhi. Although somebody on Reddit posted Kawhi’s earnings if the Spurs super max him and I’m pretty sure based on those numbers that he’ll stay. I mean, $50 million a season?

https://mobile.twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/980151828326354946

 

 

This won't go over well her, but frankly, I'm not sure I would want to sign almost anyone to a super max deal under these circumstances.  I would want to see him healthy and producing before I invest that type of money.  The super max may end up being a terrible idea as it was installed during salary cap velocity which was unsustainable. 

[Amos Moses 795]

This won't go over well her, but frankly, I'm not sure I would want to sign almost anyone to a super max deal under these circumstances.  I would want to see him healthy and producing before I invest that type of money.  The super max may end up being a terrible idea as it was installed during salary cap velocity which was unsustainable. 

Agree 100%. The question then becomes how does Kawhi respond to that? Understanding, or pissed and ready to walk when the current deal expires. That’s the game of chicken that awaits the Spurs.

[Kermit 3162]

10 minutes ago, Amos Moses said:

Agree 100%. The question then becomes how does Kawhi respond to that? Understanding, or pissed and ready to walk when the current deal expires. That’s the game of chicken that awaits the Spurs.

They’re super fucked if they tie up half of their salary cap in a player who either can’t or won’t play. They’re sort of fucked if they blow it up, at least for a couple of seasons. I’m to the point now where I’m sick of the bullshit. It’s gone on long enough. Just say he’s out and end the charade. I wish someone would act like a grown up.

[Amos Moses 795]

I’ll also say this: if the Spurs don’t at least explore trading him this offseason I’d argue they’re burying their collective heads in the sand. Unless of course they’re much more aligned with his status than anyone has reported.

 

[XYZ 2154]

 

1 hour ago, Patrick Bateman said:

Indeed..... starts tomorrow!!!

But point remains.... where we gonna get those 3 wins?

LA, LA, Sacramento.

[Gut Wagon 8219]

I still refuse to believe Kawhi has weirded out. Just seems too bizarre, and out of nowhere. I think he’ll be a Spur for life.

 

Sure, I might be an idiot. There’s long been plenty of evidence to support that position. 

[Longhorn5005 33]

Anybody hopeful that kawhi being in New York now is for his "clearance" by his own medical professionals even though bleacher reports that he is not there for rehab?

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[Gut Wagon 8219]

Evidently he’s been working out in the gym at NBA HQ. 

[Michael Knight 13217]

He's got people in his ear warning him not to get hurt and risk the huge contract

[dingleberryswitzer 2724]

Its obvious he wants to be a knick.

[Gut Wagon 8219]

Not sure if there’s any hope of winning today, but maybe. Rockets certainly slept through nearly all of their Phoenix game, so I guess anything’s possible. Then again, I doubt they want to lose to SA in a featured game today, even with owning HCA a given. Maybe we get red hot and they’re cold...resulting in a coin flip outcome. Seems optimistic, but hey.