2018-19 NBA Season Thread

[Vic Mackey 46857]

I like how people act like Lebron ruined the Lakers lmao. How many seasons below .500 and no playoffs have they endured? 5 or 6? Lebron had them in the top 4 of the West before his injury. But yes, it's all his fault. Let's overlook Magic trading away Russell and building a junk roster with no real future as constructed. 

[Dutchrudder 11087]

I like how people act like Lebron ruined the Lakers lmao. How many seasons below .500 and no playoffs have they endured? 5 or 6? Lebron had them in the top 4 of the West before his injury. But yes, it's all his fault. Let's overlook Magic trading away Russell and building a junk roster with no real future as constructed. 

That's a completely different conversation that no one is talking about. Lebron criticizes teammates for lack of effort, while clearly lacking it himself. He gets highlighted for this by the media and then changes his tune. Never happened in Cleveland

[Patrick Bateman 3874]

Bucks get one piece to sign L-T.  He's always been an injury risk but if he can play 70 games a season, he's a pretty good little player.  

 

[aggie08 21300]

5 hours ago, Vic Mackey said:

I like how people act like Lebron ruined the Lakers lmao. How many seasons below .500 and no playoffs have they endured? 5 or 6? Lebron had them in the top 4 of the West before his injury. But yes, it's all his fault. Let's overlook Magic trading away Russell and building a junk roster with no real future as constructed. 

Are these "people" just the voices inside your head?

[hobbes2702 12769]

15 hours ago, Goo Punch said:

welp...

 

Pretty stupid data set to use considering Kyrie has played more than just the last six games and the full season stats paint a different story entirely 

[d2o 1602]

6 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

Pretty stupid data set to use considering Kyrie has played more than just the last six games and the full season stats paint a different story entirely 

what's the fun in that?

[hobbes2702 12769]

On 2/14/2019 at 3:28 PM, Machinator said:

 

Reposting this. Can we stop redoing this argument every 3 pages.

[Pam Cummings 9532]

I don't care what the stats say. I think Kyrie seems like he is an absolute headache to play with and isn't good enough to justify it.

 

Edited March 2, 2019 by Pam Cummings

[hobbes2702 12769]

That’s fine and good. It has nothing to do with what I’m saying. The Celtics are unarguably better when Kyrie plays.

[Bigpoppapump 529]

13 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

I don't care what the stats say. I think Kyrie seems like he is an absolute headache to play with and isn't good enough to justify it.

 

I pray to Tebow that my Mavs don't try to sign him. (knocks on wood, sacrifices an aggy)

[Goo Punch 4275]

1 hour ago, hobbes2702 said:

Reposting this. Can we stop redoing this argument every 3 pages.

lol, sorry bro, i was honestly just dropping that in there to stir the pot and revive the argument out of sheer boredom. i don't have a strong opinion on the issue either way because i don't follow them closely enough to have one. that said i have been on record for a long time as being one who doesn't understand the perpetual overrating of Kyrie/the people who swear he's a "great", or even top 10 player in the league. MEH. He's a very talented player, a super questionable teammate, and an enigma; and, i like watching you guys argue about him, lol. I wouldn't want any team i root for to employ him, that's for sure. 

Edited March 2, 2019 by Goo Punch

[hobbes2702 12769]

I agree that he is overrated. He doesn’t make my top ten players in the league but he is somewhere 11-15. Hes a consistent All-NBA caliber player. I’m like you in that if I was a GM I would try to build around someone else. I think he’s too ball dominant and I don’t think he’s learned to lead yet. However the idea that the Celtics are better without him is simply untrue and even a simple look at the numbers shows that.

Luckily for me I don’t have a team rooting interest so I get to enjoy the drama that he brings wherever he goes and never have to worry about it being my problem.

[Radical Larry 28499]

Bulls/Hawks going to 4 OT on NBA TV. 

[kopp0e 1135]

It must be the New Balance..?

 

[Pam Cummings 9532]

I watched the end of that game. The reffing was an absolute travesty. Kawhi is such a badass.

[Aqua Buddha 14464]

It's been mentioned the last few pages but can we collectively drop the Trae Young is overrated or will be a flop nonsense?  As mentioned earlier, some of the posts on the old page about this didn't age well.

He may be a notch below Luka but it's not like that trade was a bust.  The Hawks are trash and they needed players.  They got their PG for the next decade and a first round draft pick out of it.  For the month of January, Trae averaged 23/9 while shooting 43% from three.  Much like his time at OU, he's getting those assists on a garbage team.

Luka's mom is hot so there's that.

[Dutchrudder 11087]

Holy shit! Never seen this before!

 

 

[Kermit 3126]

6 minutes ago, Dutchrudder said:

Holy shit! Never seen this before!

 

 

This is so beautiful. 

[Patrick Bateman 3874]

Lebron is about 10 games away from missing the playoffs.  If the Lakers are still 4 or 5 games from the 8th spot, Lebron may be given a phantom injury to go fishing early.  It's a debacle.  A loss to Phoenix?  That's gross in a must win scenario.  Their offseason may be more fun than this season was.... fo sho.

 

[Message Board User 12388]

6 hours ago, Patrick Bateman said:

Lebron is about 10 games away from missing the playoffs.  If the Lakers are still 4 or 5 games from the 8th spot, Lebron may be given a phantom injury to go fishing early.  It's a debacle.  A loss to Phoenix?  That's gross in a must win scenario.  Their offseason may be more fun than this season was.... fo sho.

 

That's a shame.

[Message Board User 12388]

538 gives the Lakers an 8% chance of making the playoffs now. 

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2019-nba-predictions/

[aggie08 21300]

8 straight Finals to 4th best team in California.

'errybody getting fired this offseason.

[Message Board User 12388]

And worse yet, the advanced stats show Lebron is clearly showing he is finally in decline.

Season	Age	Tm	Lg	Pos	G	MP	PER	TS%	3PAr	FTr	ORB%	DRB%	TRB%	AST%	STL%	BLK%	TOV%	USG%		OWS	DWS	WS	WS/48		OBPM	DBPM	BPM	VORP
2003-04	19	CLE	NBA	SG	79	3122	18.3	.488	.145	.308	3.5	11.8	7.6	27.8	2.2	1.3	13.9	28.2		2.4	2.6	5.1	.078		2.2	-0.2	1.9	3.1
2004-05	20	CLE	NBA	SF	80	3388	25.7	.554	.183	.378	3.8	17.0	10.2	32.9	2.8	1.1	11.8	29.7		9.7	4.6	14.3	.203		6.9	1.5	8.3	8.8
2005-06	21	CLE	NBA	SF	79	3361	28.1	.568	.208	.447	2.6	17.1	9.8	32.8	2.0	1.5	10.7	33.6		12.0	4.3	16.3	.232		7.9	1.4	9.3	9.5
2006-07	22	CLE	NBA	SF	78	3190	24.5	.552	.191	.432	3.0	16.6	9.6	29.1	2.1	1.3	11.5	31.0		8.0	5.7	13.7	.206		5.4	2.0	7.4	7.6
2007-08	23	CLE	NBA	SF	75	3027	29.1	.568	.219	.470	4.9	17.8	11.1	37.3	2.4	2.1	11.4	33.5		10.7	4.6	15.2	.242		9.0	2.3	11.2	10.1
2008-09	24	CLE	NBA	SF	81	3054	31.7	.591	.238	.472	4.3	19.0	11.9	38.0	2.4	2.4	11.0	33.8		13.7	6.5	20.3	.318		9.4	3.6	13.0	11.6
2009-10	25	CLE	NBA	SF	76	2966	31.1	.604	.253	.506	3.0	18.5	11.1	41.8	2.2	2.0	12.3	33.5		13.3	5.2	18.5	.299		9.7	2.8	12.5	10.9
2010-11	26	MIA	NBA	SF	79	3063	27.3	.594	.188	.446	3.3	18.7	11.4	34.9	2.1	1.3	13.8	31.5		10.3	5.3	15.6	.244		6.5	2.1	8.6	8.2
2011-12	27	MIA	NBA	SF	62	2326	30.7	.605	.127	.429	5.0	19.7	12.6	33.6	2.6	1.7	13.3	32.0		10.0	4.5	14.5	.298		8.3	2.7	11.0	7.6
2012-13	28	MIA	NBA	PF	76	2877	31.6	.640	.188	.395	4.4	20.8	13.1	36.4	2.4	1.9	12.4	30.2		14.6	4.7	19.3	.322		9.2	2.4	11.6	9.8
2013-14	29	MIA	NBA	PF	77	2902	29.3	.649	.226	.432	3.6	18.9	11.5	32.0	2.2	0.8	14.4	31.0		12.3	3.7	15.9	.264		8.0	0.9	8.9	8.0
2014-15	30	CLE	NBA	SF	69	2493	25.9	.577	.265	.413	2.4	16.6	9.6	38.6	2.3	1.6	15.3	32.3		7.4	2.9	10.4	.199		6.2	1.2	7.4	5.9
2015-16	31	CLE	NBA	SF	76	2709	27.5	.588	.199	.347	4.7	18.8	11.8	36.0	2.0	1.5	13.2	31.4		9.6	4.0	13.6	.242		6.9	2.3	9.1	7.6
2016-17	32	CLE	NBA	SF	74	2794	27.0	.619	.254	.395	4.0	20.7	12.6	41.3	1.6	1.3	16.1	30.0		9.8	3.0	12.9	.221		6.8	1.6	8.4	7.3
2017-18	33	CLE	NBA	PF	82	3026	28.6	.621	.257	.336	3.7	22.3	13.1	44.4	1.9	2.0	16.1	31.6		11.0	3.0	14.0	.221		7.6	2.0	9.6	8.9
2018-19	34	LAL	NBA	SF	45	1598	25.7	.593	.307	.390	3.1	21.6	12.6	37.3	1.8	1.4	13.2	30.6		4.1	2.2	6.3	.189		6.0	1.8	7.8	3.9

[TexasMan 10736]

 

[kopp0e 1135]

This tweet hasn't aged well for an ol' OSU alumni:

Utah & DM has played quite well over the post few weeks, in most part due to Mitchell's play...

[kopp0e 1135]

Curry is a pretty coll guy, and seems a stand up dude too:

 

[aggie08 21300]

19 minutes ago, kopp0e said:

Utah & DM has played quite well over the post few weeks, in most part due to Mitchell's play...

That and Utah's schedule transitioning from the toughest first half of the season to easiest in the 2nd half. The reverse Lakers' effect.

But Utah is very good. They're going to be a tough out for anyone who has to play them in the postseason.

[BigOrange1 6403]

it's almost as if spitting hot takes in november (around 15-20 games into the season) isn't super smart.

but gotlieb is a hack and has been for the past several years.  he's desperately trying to become the next skip bayless.

[Underdog 28392]

1 hour ago, kopp0e said:

Curry is a pretty coll guy, and seems a stand up dude too:

 

Impressive rack on blue top in that vid. 

[Kermit 3126]

1 hour ago, BigOrange1 said:

it's almost as if spitting hot takes in november (around 15-20 games into the season) isn't super smart.

but gotlieb is a hack and has been for the past several years.  he's desperately trying to become the next skip bayless.

Would you say he’s stealing Skip’s schtick?

[kopp0e 1135]

2 hours ago, aggie08 said:

That and Utah's schedule transitioning from the toughest first half of the season to easiest in the 2nd half. The reverse Lakers' effect.

But Utah is very good. They're going to be a tough out for anyone who has to play them in the postseason.

The Thunder agree (I think)...

[TexasMan 10736]

 

[kopp0e 1135]

 

[kopp0e 1135]

 

[kopp0e 1135]

Go ThundeRuss'..!

 

[Dr Fear 1264]

LULZ.

[aggie08 21300]

Since when does Woj write for The Onion?

[Patrick Bateman 3874]

Reunited and it feels so good.....

 

[aggie08 21300]

And thus continues the Warriors' annual tradition of loading up on washed centers when they ideally don't even want one on the court for half the game in the playoffs.

Not really much else out there to fill a roster spot, though. My biggest problem with the Cousins' signing is that it depleted their entire MLE, which could have been used to entice mid-season buyouts...but Faried looks to be the only one who will have any real impact (sorry Pau). Pretty weak buyout market this year.

[Vic Mackey 46857]

14 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

And thus continues the Warriors' annual tradition of loading up on washed centers when they ideally don't even want one on the court for half the game in the playoffs.

Not really much else out there to fill a roster spot, though. My biggest problem with the Cousins' signing is that it depleted their entire MLE, which could have been used to entice mid-season buyouts...but Faried looks to be the only one who will have any real impact (sorry Pau). Pretty weak buyout market this year.

I think GSW will survive.

[aggie08 21300]

Just now, Vic Mackey said:

I think GSW will survive.

Yeah, it was probably as simple as wanting to have a familiar face and veteran presence riding the end of the bench as opposed to some interchangeable rookie or D-league guy. No on-court analysis needed.

[hobbes2702 12769]

1 hour ago, aggie08 said:

And thus continues the Warriors' annual tradition of loading up on washed centers when they ideally don't even want one on the court for half the game in the playoffs.

Not really much else out there to fill a roster spot, though. My biggest problem with the Cousins' signing is that it depleted their entire MLE, which could have been used to entice mid-season buyouts...but Faried looks to be the only one who will have any real impact (sorry Pau). Pretty weak buyout market this year.

I’d much rather have Boogie than any buyout candidate

[PittsburghTiger 6130]

What happened to the Ball kid who was playing for the Lakers? Did LeBron banish him?

[BigOrange1 6403]

injured.  he's missed the last 16 games.  they're 5-11 in those 16.

[aggie08 21300]

34 minutes ago, BigOrange1 said:

injured.  he's missed the last 16 games.  they're 5-11 in those 16.

I'm case there's any doubt to his value. He may never impress anybody statistically, but he's a difference maker. Look no further than the dumpster fire that is UCLA in the years before and after he was there.

[hundredTT 576]

Watching this Lakers game is a joke. Luke Walton just looks depressed.

[Chad 1728]

2 hours ago, hundredTT said:

Watching this Lakers game is a joke. Luke Walton just looks depressed.

Well yeah, LeBron turned the team against him and is going to have him fired. If Walton wasn't so tight with Jeanie Buss he'd already be gone. LeBron threw in the towel and checked out, he knows the Lakers have 0 chance of making the playoffs. The Lakers went out and signed guys LeBron wanted like Rondo and Stephenson, but it'll all be on Luke Walton. That young core was extremely overrated as well. Kuzma/Ingram may become good players, but I don't see them becoming great players and Clownzo is borderline bust status.

[UTDD 362]

The trade situation and injuries killed the Lakers but you wonder if they were really as good as their early 20-14 record indicated.  They were really good defensively early on, and that has completely disappeared now.  They probably should just play LeBron about 20 minutes a game and shut it down basically for next year.  I don't think we are going to see "best player in the NBA" LeBron ever again but there is no reason he couldn't emulate a great Magic Johnson type role with less scoring because he could easily play as an elite point guard on offense even as he declines due to his basketball IQ, court vision, and passing ability which are all less reliant on his physical gifts.

[PittsburghTiger 6130]

9 minutes ago, UTDD said:

The trade situation and injuries killed the Lakers but you wonder if they were really as good as their early 20-14 record indicated.  They were really good defensively early on, and that has completely disappeared now.  They probably should just play LeBron about 20 minutes a game and shut it down basically for next year.  I don't think we are going to see "best player in the NBA" LeBron ever again but there is no reason he couldn't emulate a great Magic Johnson type role with less scoring because he could easily play as an elite point guard on offense even as he declines due to his basketball IQ, court vision, and passing ability which are all less reliant on his physical gifts.

I don't think his ego would allow for that. Not that I think he is the only player with an ego. 

[BigOrange1 6403]

6 hours ago, Chad said:

Well yeah, LeBron turned the team against him and is going to have him fired. If Walton wasn't so tight with Jeanie Buss he'd already be gone. LeBron threw in the towel and checked out, he knows the Lakers have 0 chance of making the playoffs. The Lakers went out and signed guys LeBron wanted like Rondo and Stephenson, but it'll all be on Luke Walton. That young core was extremely overrated as well. Kuzma/Ingram may become good players, but I don't see them becoming great players and Clownzo is borderline bust status.

you realize they are 5-12 in the past 17 games he's been injured right?