2018-19 NBA Season Thread

[huge 3788]

Rox started 2 street free agents and won at GS.

Their delta is absolutely ridiculous.

[Roofle 266]

Harden got fucking obliterated on the attempt too, but after that KD out-of-bounds bullshit, someone on GSW could have pulled a gun and shot him and not had a foul called on them.

[Goo Punch 4275]

If these two teams play in the WCF it's going to be amazing. 

[perfectchaos007 6596]

6 minutes ago, Goo Punch said:

Harden hits the winner over Klay and Draymond and then looks at Draymond (who's on the ground) and screams, "MOTHERFUCKER!" 

Damn Right

[BigOrange1 6422]

9 minutes ago, Radical Larry said:

Harden has been on a goddamn tear. 

give me derrick rose over him any day!

[aggie08 21432]

Pretty sure that Harden, me, Derka, Steve Kerr today, and the old dude from 24 Hour Fitness could field a top 5 NBA regular season offense.

Austin Rivers was the only other dude out there all night with even a hint of being able to create his own shot.

Edited January 4, 2019 by aggie08

[Machinator 32097]

 

[APMP 685]

[Goo Punch 4275]

9 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Pretty sure that Harden, me, Derka, Steve Kerr today, and the old dude from 24 Hour Fitness could field a top 5 NBA regular season offense.

Austin Rivers was the only other dude out there all night with even a hint of being able to create his own shot.

Harden's step back is approaching "all time" status, like Kareem's hook shot, MJ's pull up mid range, the fade away shots of MJ, Kobe, and Dirk, TD using the glass, Stockton and Malone with the PnR, etc. It's a thing of beauty. His moves are some of the most subtle i've ever seen. It's not a bunch of moving parts and herky jerky cuts, it's just lighting quick, and even the best defenders in the game find themselves consistently lost. I'm talking step backs, crossovers, hesitation moves, dribble drives, you name it. He's just fast twitch everything, and because of that I'd venture to say that his practice repetitions more closely resemble his game reps than any other player. He can practice alone and it's the same as if he's being guarded by Draymond.

[Goo Punch 4275]

 

[UTDD 362]

1 hour ago, Machinator said:

 

I had Giannis basically all season as the MVP so far, but I definitely right now have changed my thoughts, it's Harden right now for me.  Wow.

[ztejas 43264]

3 hours ago, Vic Mackey said:

1. IT wouldn't know a championship if it bit him in the ass.

2. Kawhi didn't win shit for the Spurs he won a championship with the Spurs.

So yes, thank you Kawhi for playing well in a Finals series. You could have tried to take the Spurs to another Finals appearance and really won one FOR us but you didn't, so go fuck yourself and find a frozen pole to stick your dick on in Canada. 

[Goo Punch 4275]

1 hour ago, Goo Punch said:

Today's players are so unbelievably talented. It's amazing. Players from the 80's may as well be George Mikan and Bob Cousy at this point. Imagine if pro basketball is still a thing 100 years from now...200 years from now...fuckin 500 years from now!?! What do players look like 150 years after Giannis? 

@ztejas i don't mind being negged when it makes sense; why would you neg this and then not respond to it? genuinely confused. 

[immortal13 4059]

55 minutes ago, Goo Punch said:

@ztejas i don't mind being negged when it makes sense; why would you neg this and then not respond to it? genuinely confused. 

Because Derka is a bitchass

[d2o 1602]

5 hours ago, ztejas said:

1. IT wouldn't know a championship if it bit him in the ass.

2. Kawhi didn't win shit for the Spurs he won a championship with the Spurs.

So yes, thank you Kawhi for playing well in a Finals series. You could have tried to take the Spurs to another Finals appearance and really won one FOR us but you didn't, so go fuck yourself and find a frozen pole to stick your dick on in Canada. 

The whole booing thing is so wack now.    On both sides but I at least get the fans side.     A player like Kawhi wanted out of your team.   Its stupid to boo him for that IMO but I get it at least.

Players and media getting all up in arms about a player being booed (no matter what he did for that team) is utterly ridiculous.   ESPECIALLY players that aren't even connected to the situation in any way like that tweet from IT.   Shut the fuck up.

[ztejas 43264]

6 hours ago, Goo Punch said:

@ztejas i don't mind being negged when it makes sense; why would you neg this and then not respond to it? genuinely confused. 

You disrespected an entire decade of NBA players. Fuck out of here with that stupid shit. Players in the 80s weren't talented? Magic Johnson? Larry Bird? Kevin McHale? Dr. J? Hakeem?

I mean wtf are you even talking about. 

[Machinator 32097]

6 hours ago, UTDD said:

I had Giannis basically all season as the MVP so far, but I definitely right now have changed my thoughts, it's Harden right now for me.  Wow.

Yep, it's hard to see anyone else as MVP right now.

[Sbbruin 21733]

Today's players are so unbelievably talented. It's amazing. Players from the 80's may as well be George Mikan and Bob Cousy at this point. Imagine if pro basketball is still a thing 100 years from now...200 years from now...fuckin 500 years from now!?! What do players look like 150 years after Giannis? 

I really encourage you to watch replays of Lakers v Celtics finals from the 80s. I think the narrative that players continue to get exponentially better as time progresses is a false one. Certainly overall the talent may be better from top to bottom, but either of those teams push or beat the Warriors.

[BigOrange1 6422]

1 hour ago, d2o said:

The whole booing thing is so wack now.    On both sides but I at least get the fans side.     A player like Kawhi wanted out of your team.   Its stupid to boo him for that IMO but I get it at least.

Players and media getting all up in arms about a player being booed (no matter what he did for that team) is utterly ridiculous.   ESPECIALLY players that aren't even connected to the situation in any way like that tweet from IT.   Shut the fuck up.

he didn't just want out, he basically sat out all of last season in protest.  it was a gigantic bitch move and if someone like lebron, harden or durant had done it the entire world would have crushed them.

[d2o 1602]

35 minutes ago, BigOrange1 said:

he didn't just want out, he basically sat out all of last season in protest.  it was a gigantic bitch move and if someone like lebron, harden or durant had done it the entire world would have crushed them.

Again, I get the fans booing.   I wouldn't do it cause I generally don't care enough about what people do to put that much effort into showing them I don't like their actions.

 

I have a bigger problem with players and the media acting like its some disgraceful thing that fans booed a player for whatever fucking reason.   

[Vic Mackey 46936]

You disrespected an entire decade of NBA players. Fuck out of here with that stupid shit. Players in the 80s weren't talented? Magic Johnson? Larry Bird? Kevin McHale? Dr. J? Hakeem?
I mean wtf are you even talking about. 

Agreed. People get way too caught up in the moment and say things like that.

[d2o 1602]

16 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

2 hours ago, ztejas said:

You disrespected an entire decade of NBA players. Fuck out of here with that stupid shit. Players in the 80s weren't talented? Magic Johnson? Larry Bird? Kevin McHale? Dr. J? Hakeem?
I mean wtf are you even talking about. 

Agreed. People get way too caught up in the moment and say things like that.

Yeah that is why this latest push to say Harden is the best offensive player is fucking insane.

[ztejas 43264]

1 hour ago, d2o said:

Again, I get the fans booing.   I wouldn't do it cause I generally don't care enough about what people do to put that much effort into showing them I don't like their actions.

 

I have a bigger problem with players and the media acting like its some disgraceful thing that fans booed a player for whatever fucking reason.   

Yeah I cant say if I would have done it or not were I there in person.

But for a player that's never had anything to do with the Spurs to not be able to understand the nastiness of the situation is beyond tone deaf.

[Vic Mackey 46936]

38 minutes ago, d2o said:

Yeah that is why this latest push to say Harden is the best offensive player is fucking insane.

I'll take Dirk over Harden. He has did it in the playoffs.

[ztejas 43264]

28 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

I'll take Dirk over Harden. He has did it in the playoffs.

And KD. And Steph. And LeBron.

[52-80 19090]

And peak TMAC

[Goo Punch 4275]

4 hours ago, ztejas said:

You disrespected an entire decade of NBA players. Fuck out of here with that stupid shit. Players in the 80s weren't talented? Magic Johnson? Larry Bird? Kevin McHale? Dr. J? Hakeem?

I mean wtf are you even talking about. 

lol, wow. okie dokie. that's the lamest excuse for negging someone i've ever heard of. let's start here:

hi, i'm derka; have we met before? i mean i know i'm new around here, and that nobody here really knows my style by this point (can you sense the sarcasm? because i'm laying it on pretty thick), but i've been known to dabble in hyperbole when making a point.

no fucking shit the 80's had talented players. you've got be the densest motherfucker on this board to not get my point. also ignorant, because yes, players today are insanely more talented than the players from the 80's. This is one of the most obvious points anyone could make about today's game. This is not up for debate, as this is a universal truth across literally every major sport.

You're clearly too young to even know what you're talking about, but the NBA of the 80's featured thousands of players who would never sniff the league today, because the talent level is nowhere close. of course the very very best from that generation will stack up well with the any other generation, but the further you go down the line the more comically wide the gap in talent becomes. whoever the 50th, and 100th, and 150th best player is in today's NBA >>>>> his counterpart from any random heat in the 80's.

you know what, i can't believe i'm even sitting here explaining this to you. you're retarded. the fact that you don't even know that today's players are insanely more talented than those in the 80's should be exactly what i expect from you. jesus. 

Edited January 4, 2019 by Goo Punch

[Goo Punch 4275]

i mean for christ fucking sake michael jordan and magic johnson couldn't even shoot threes! do you know how many 7 footers today have better handles, better shooting, better passing, better foot work, better *everything* than many starring guards from the 80's? Of course you don't. Why would VYmyHero know anything about anything. Jesus Christ. The gall to neg me for "disrespecting" Paul Mokeski, Bill Hanzlik, and Marc Iavaroni, when you aren't even aware of the basic common knowledge that the talent level today >>>>>>> the 80's in literally every sport. That's just special. 

Edited January 4, 2019 by Goo Punch

[BigOrange1 6422]

only an idiot would have taken your post as disrespectful to players like michael jordan, magic johnson and larry bird. 

likewise, it's pretty idiotic to mention tmac as a better offensive player than harden when the premise of the post(s) you're agreeing with is postseason success.

but here we are...

[Goo Punch 4275]

4 hours ago, Sbbruin said:

 

I really encourage you to watch replays of Lakers v Celtics finals from the 80s. I think the narrative that players continue to get exponentially better as time progresses is a false one. Certainly overall the talent may be better from top to bottom, but either of those teams push or beat the Warriors.

 

i'm talking about the league, not the lakers and celtics. how is that not clear? Where does Buddy Hield rank in today's NBA? How about Bogdan? Bjelica? Cauley-Stein? Bagley? Fox? Where do these members of the Sacramento Kings rank as players in today's NBA? These guys would all be somewhere between the 60th and 160th best players in the NBA today. Now go back and compare their talent to that of their equivalent from any random season from the 1980's. It won't be close. Go find whoever is ranked in the same respective spot as these players and the gap in talent will be insane. 

Edited January 4, 2019 by Goo Punch

[d2o 1602]

4 minutes ago, BigOrange1 said:

only an idiot would have taken your post as disrespectful to players like michael jordan, magic johnson and larry bird. 

likewise, it's pretty idiotic to mention tmac as a better offensive player than harden when the premise of the post(s) you're agreeing with is postseason success.

but here we are...

hahahahahhahahahhahahhaha

[Goo Punch 4275]

@aggie08 @Patrick Bateman is this what you wanted? is this better than 50 memes and ig and twitter posts every day? now we're all going to sit around talking about how today's players aren't any more skilled than the players from the 80's? that's what hot in the streets? saying indefensibly stupid shit like that and then negging anyone with the common sense to know otherwise? come on y'all, get off the sidelines, get into the game, and add some motherfucking sense to this retarded discussion. surely our two most prolific nba poster have some thoughts regarding to overall talent level of today vs 30 years ago. spill it. 

 

lol, i mean im still over here shaking my head. i just went back and read my OP that led to this. literally all i said was, "look how far we've come since the 80's; what will players look like 150 years from now?" and yet somehow that's controversial. jesus. 

Edited January 4, 2019 by Goo Punch

[BigOrange1 6422]

really what i think a lot of us would like would just be simple discussion of the goings on in the nba, but unfortunately there are a few idiots here who make that damn near impossible.

[ztejas 43264]

20 minutes ago, Goo Punch said:

lol, wow. okie dokie. that's the lamest excuse for negging someone i've ever heard of. let's start here:

hi, i'm derka; have we met before? i mean i know i'm new around here, and that nobody here really knows my style by this point (can you sense the sarcasm? because i'm laying it on pretty thick), but i've been known to dabble in hyperbole when making a point.

no fucking shit the 80's had talented players. you've got be the densest motherfucker on this board to not get my point. also ignorant, because yes, players today are insanely more talented than the players from the 80's. This is one of the most obvious points anyone could make about today's game. This is not up for debate, as this is a universal truth across literally every major sport.

You're clearly too young to even know what you're talking about, but the NBA of the 80's featured thousands of players who would never sniff the league today, because the talent level is nowhere close. of course the very very best from that generation will stack up well with the any other generation, but the further you go down the line the more comically wide the gap in talent becomes. whoever the 50th, and 100th, and 150th best player is in today's NBA >>>>> his counterpart from any random heat in the 80's.

you know what, i can't believe i'm even sitting here explaining this to you. you're retarded. the fact that you don't even know that today's players are insanely more talented than those in the 80's should be exactly what i expect from you. jesus. 

First of all, slow your roll. 

Second, I think you're conflating athleticism with talent. What is your definition of "talent" anyway? Doing a shamgod into a fadeaway jumper? Are you talking about play that LOOKS cool or play that actually translates into winning basketball? Conditioning and weight room wise players today are much better. That doesn't make them better passers, defenders, or shooters.

If you can't comprehend that here's a clip of 55 year old Chris Mullin beating Kevin Durant in a shooting contest.

Here's a clip of Jerry "I haven't shot a basketball in years" West 

Here's a highlight reel of the '86 Celtics who had better chemistry and team passing than any team in the league right now

Going by your logic, shouldn't players from the 80s be much more talented than Mikan and Cousy? Because that's what you're claiming, that today's players make guys from the 80s look like guys from the 50s. 

Lol at the "you're too young" card. I bet I've watched full length games from the 1980s more recently than you have. 

[Goo Punch 4275]

6 minutes ago, BigOrange1 said:

really what i think a lot of us would like would just be simple discussion of the goings on in the nba, but unfortunately there are a few idiots here who make that damn near impossible.

they'll neg you, they'll talk shit to you, they'll share a meme or seven, but they won't make a single substantive point, much less a string of substantive posts. won't even attempt to. the surly nba board is so wack.

[Goo Punch 4275]

Just now, ztejas said:

First of all, slow your roll. 

Second, I think you're conflating athleticism with talent. What is your definition of "talent" anyway? Doing a shamgod into a fadeaway jumper? Are you talking about play that LOOKS cool or play that actually translates into winning basketball? Conditioning and weight room wise players today are much better. That doesn't make them better passers, defenders, or shooters.

If you can't comprehend that here's a clip of 55 year old Chris Mullin beating Kevin Durant in a shooting contest.

Here's a clip of Jerry "I haven't shot a basketball in years" West 

Here's a highlight reel of the '86 Celtics who had better chemistry and team passing than any team in the league right now

Going by your logic, shouldn't players from the 80s be much more talented than Mikan and Cousy? Because that's what you're claiming, that today's players make guys from the 80s look like guys from the 50s. 

Lol at the "you're too young" card. I bet I've watched full length games from the 1980s more recently than you have. 

no, i'm not talking about athleticism, I am very specifically talking about skill. The skill level in today's NBA is far, far better across the board than it was in the 1980s. The same goes for every single sport in the world. This is common knowledge, this is not up for debate. This is a fact.

[d2o 1602]

17 minutes ago, BigOrange1 said:

really what i think a lot of us would like would just be simple discussion of the goings on in the nba, but unfortunately there are a few idiots here who make that damn near impossible.

What this guy said.   Its why I had to take some time off of the thread.

[Vic Mackey 46936]

So is this the weekly cry about the NBA thread posts?

[Machinator 32097]

 

[d2o 1602]

36 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

So is this the weekly cry about the NBA thread posts?

Hit dogs holler

[d2o 1602]

1 minute ago, Machinator said:

 

I like Butler but I honestly think he is far more trouble than he is worth.    When you have an issue with every org you are the issue.

[Vic Mackey 46936]

 

[aggie08 21432]

Hey Jimmie, you're the 2nd best player on your team.  Even if you decide to stay in Philly, the organization is hopeful that you'll very quickly become the 3rd best player on your team.  Maybe act like it?

[Goo Punch 4275]

 

but who could have seen this coming?!?!

in all seriousness the Sixers still have 4+ months to work this thing out, so i don't want to go overboard just yet. brett brown and joel embiid in particular are strong personalities, so they should be able to handle jimmy and his personality over time. if this team can eventually find the right flow and play as a cohesive unit then they could make a deep playoff run and quiet all the chatter. If not, then giving up Saric and Convington only to get worse was a bad move.


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[d2o 1602]

14 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Hey Jimmie, you're the 2nd best player on your team.  Even if you decide to stay in Philly, the organization is hopeful that you'll very quickly become the 3rd best player on your team.  Maybe act like it?

This is some of what I was factoring into my Wggins/Butler argument.    He is a better player but I will take the younger guy who isn't an asshole.

[Kermit 3128]

Jimmy Butler needs some good weed and therapy. That truculent motherfucker fucks up every goddamn locker room he walks into. 

[MNLonghornFUKM 8799]

Didn't see that coming at all.

Fucking turd. Fuck him.

[aggie08 21432]

23 minutes ago, d2o said:

This is some of what I was factoring into my Wggins/Butler argument.    He is a better player but I will take the younger guy who isn't an asshole.

I'd much, much rather have a competitive asshole over lazy and indifferent if forced to pick.

But yeah, at a $30M per price tag, the best option is probably "neither."

Minnesota lucked out not having ~$65M committed to those two wings every year for the foreseeable future, even if they did end up with the substantially worse player.

[d2o 1602]

8 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

I'd much, much rather have a competitive asshole over lazy and indifferent if forced to pick.

But yeah, at a $30M per price tag, the best option is probably "neither."

Minnesota lucked out not having ~$65M committed to those two wings every year for the foreseeable future, even if they did end up with the substantially worse player.

I still hold out a little hope on Wiggins but when that "competitive" asshole is fucking up the growth of KAT I'm definitely keeping Wiggins over him.

[Francisco 2.0 32333]

55 minutes ago, Goo Punch said:

but who could have seen this coming?!?!

in all seriousness the Sixers still have 4+ months to work this thing out, so i don't want to go overboard just yet. brett brown and joel embiid in particular are strong personalities, 

 

Lulz on Brown having a strong personality, otherwise Butler would be a model citizen up to this point since coming over.  If this thing ever gets cleaned up, it's on Embiid.  Simmons isn't going to help here, and there's no one else on the roster (maybe Reddick) that could set Butler straight.  

Sixers have two choices here after the season ends.  Sign a near 30 year old malcontent to a 9 figure contract and *hope* things are ok in the years to come, or cut him loose and roll the dice in free agency.