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LTtxfan

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6 minutes ago, Braff Zacklin said:

Great news. Good luck at the next level, Jaxson.

Yeah, if Jaxson is a solid 1st Round pick, probably makes sense to move on to the NBA.  Hope he gets drafted by a good organization that can be patient and develop his talent..... Jaxson has so much to learn to be successful in the NBA.

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1 hour ago, LTtxfan said:

Yeah, if Jaxson is a solid 1st Round pick, probably makes sense to move on to the NBA.  Hope he gets drafted by a good organization that can be patient and develop his talent..... Jaxson has so much to learn to be successful in the NBA.

100% correct but this may be a problem. NBA teams will tell you one thing and do something else. The Rockets told Rashard Lewis that they would pick him with one of their 3 consecutive 1st round picks and didn't. The Spurs told Cory Joseph that they would pick him and they did. 

If he doesn't have that guarantee, it might not be a bad idea to come back for one more year.

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4 hours ago, Machinator said:

 

There's a Wescunt Eberts article in BON that mentions the Hayes departure and hints at another defection, saying that we're: "preparing for the possibility that someone on the current roster could transfer". Does anybody (including himself) know what he's referring to?  

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2 hours ago, Sock Drawer said:

There's a Wescunt Eberts article in BON that mentions the Hayes departure and hints at another defection, saying that we're: "preparing for the possibility that someone on the current roster could transfer". Does anybody (including himself) know what he's referring to?  

Gotta be Eli Long. Long will be at the bottom of the depth chart for guards next year, and he seems to be the latest player to have gone from a big role to completely falling out of favor with Shaka. He didn't even play down the stretch, and during the post game of our NIT Final win, everyone else was cheering and smiling, and he was more stoic and just standing there. Then when it was time to take a team photo the photog had everyone throw up the hook em, but Eli was throwing up some other sign of his own. i remember watching it very clearly and thinking, "he gone." 

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3 hours ago, Steamboat1874 said:

DO will be a better pro the next 5 years (wherever he plays) than Hayes will be.

How many non dunk baskets did Hayes actually have?

My guess would be less that 5% of his makes. Good luck in the D or G League for the next 10 years.

 

 

Lol. This is a ridiculous take.  Hayes is already better than DO right now.Hayes is extremely raw but his growth curve the last couple years has been incredible. 

Hayes’ athleticism and shot blocking combined with added muscle in the next couple years will give him a baseline of quality bench big. Jarrett Allen has seen a ton of success in the league already and there’s no reason Hays’s can’t do the same.

not to mention, Hayes is an 80% FT shooter, and FTs in college are more predictive of 3 pt shooting success in the NBA than a player’s 3 pt % in college. Point being, he has potential to add a reliable 3 point, or at least 15 ft shot in the next couple years.  

 Hayes was already way better than DO this year and DO will never play in the NBA, so being better than DO the next 5 years is a very low bar.  You’re massively undervaluing Hayes’ current abilities as well as his growth potential.

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11 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

Lol. This is a ridiculous take.  Hayes is already better than DO right now.Hayes is extremely raw but his growth curve the last couple years has been incredible. 

Hayes’ athleticism and shot blocking combined with added muscle in the next couple years will give him a baseline of quality bench big. Jarrett Allen has seen a ton of success in the league already and there’s no reason Hays’s can’t do the same.

not to mention, Hayes is an 80% FT shooter, and FTs in college are more predictive of 3 pt shooting success in the NBA than a player’s 3 pt % in college. Point being, he has potential to add a reliable 3 point, or at least 15 ft shot in the next couple years.  

 Hayes was already way better than DO this year and DO will never play in the NBA, so being better than DO the next 5 years is a very low bar.  You’re massively undervaluing Hayes’ current abilities as well as his growth potential.

I think Hayes will struggle more than Allen did his first year but will have the same development type schedule if a little slower at first (not as polished) but maybe a higher ceiling with his natural skill set. 

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I think Hayes will struggle more than Allen did his first year but will have the same development type schedule if a little slower at first (not as polished) but maybe a higher ceiling with his natural skill set. 

Agreed. He’s a lot more raw, but his ceiling is a good bit higher IMO. 

My main point in responding to OP with the Allen comparison is the league values mobile, rim-running bigs who can protect the rim and switch on the perimeter even if they don’t have much in the at of traditional big man offensive skills.

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20 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:

Agreed. You take the athleticism and try to build a serviceable Cappella. 

This is the correct answer. The first couple of years if I remember, Capella played overseas and then came off the bench. The last 2 years his game really improved. Hopefully Hayes will be used in the same way.

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9 hours ago, Steamboat1874 said:

DO will be a better pro the next 5 years (wherever he plays) than Hayes will be.

How many non dunk baskets did Hayes actually have?

My guess would be less that 5% of his makes. Good luck in the D or G League for the next 10 years.

 

 

I'm not sure DO even wants to play pro ball, but if he does, it will be as a role player in Lithuania or Turkey, and not in the NBA where Jaxson will be. Jaxson does have a whole lot of growing to do, but his freakish athleticism, soft hands, and nice form/soft touch from the line say that he can become a very good NBA player who could potentially become a starter-level player who can play any position from 3-5. Jaxson >>>>>>>> DO. One is just scratching the surface, the other is nearly maxed out. 

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On 4/11/2019 at 11:57 AM, Sock Drawer said:

There's a Wescunt Eberts article in BON that mentions the Hayes departure and hints at another defection, saying that we're: "preparing for the possibility that someone on the current roster could transfer". Does anybody (including himself) know what he's referring to?  

Someone in Shaka’s program is going to transfer??? 

BOMBSHELL!!!1

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16 hours ago, Steamboat1874 said:

DO will be a better pro the next 5 years (wherever he plays) than Hayes will be.

How many non dunk baskets did Hayes actually have?

My guess would be less that 5% of his makes. Good luck in the D or G League for the next 10 years.

 

 

DO is going pro in something other than sports, my dude

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19 hours ago, Steamboat1874 said:

DO will be a better pro the next 5 years (wherever he plays) than Hayes will be.

How many non dunk baskets did Hayes actually have?

My guess would be less that 5% of his makes. Good luck in the D or G League for the next 10 years.

 

 

Do they play on 9ft rims in estonia?

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his form from the FT line has always indicated that he's got great potential as a shooter. shot 74% from the line as a freshman last year. that projects him to be an 80% shooter from the line as his floor in the pros. he really does have one of the highest ceilings in this draft outside of the top 3 guys. 

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