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Kyle Chapman, a prominent member of the far-right who lives in the Bay Area, was arrested in Oakland on July 3 and is being held in Alameda County's Santa Rita Jail without bail on charges that he assaulted a man in a Texas bar fight one year ago.

A Travis County judge issued a warrant for Chapman's arrest in March of this year following an investigation of the bar fight. Since then, Chapman has been a fugitive from justice.

Chapman rose to prominence following several violent protests in Berkeley in March 2017. During one of the rallies, Chapman was videotaped hitting several people over the head with a large wooden cane. After the attack, his followers nicknamed him "Based Stickman," and Chapman has turned his violent reputation into a profitable brand by selling his own line of clothing and appearing at pro-Trump and anti-immigration rallies around the country.

Last August, the Alameda County District Attorney charged Chapman with possession of a leaded cane for his actions in Berkeley. He has pleaded not guilty to the felony allegation.

On July 1 last year, Chapman was in Texas for the "Texans for America Freedom" rally at the State Capitol in Austin. Chapman was a featured speaker at the event.

After the protest, Chapman ended up at the Dirty Dog Bar, one of many nightclubs on Austin's busy 6th Street party district.

According to court records, at about 1:30 in the morning, Chapman was shoving people in a "mosh pit" when he got into an altercation with another bar patron. An Austin police detective wrote in a affidavit that Chapman punched the other man and then hit him across the face with a wooden bar stool.

The detective interviewed a witness who described Chapman's behavior at the bar as an "attempt to instigate" a fight. The witness said he saw Chapman punch the victim, and a second unidentified man who appeared to be with Chapman threw another punch.

The detective also reviewed surveillance video from the bar and was able to see a man fitting Chapman's description shoving people and then getting into an argument with the victim. According to the detective's description of events:
 

"Kyle intentionally shoves a patron and victim is seen approaching Kyle. They have a conversation and Kyle shoves [the victim] and then punches him in the face. Kyle grabs a large wooden bar stool and hits the victim in the forehead causing him to fall to the ground."


Chapman also made a drink purchase at the bar using his wife's credit card, and after the fight, he left the card behind. The credit card was later seized by the police and is being held as evidence.

According to court records, the victim, Collin Kruse, had fractures to his face and hemorrhaging in his brain and required surgery.

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2 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Kyle Chapman, a prominent member of the far-right who lives in the Bay Area, was arrested in Oakland on July 3 and is being held in Alameda County's Santa Rita Jail without bail on charges that he assaulted a man in a Texas bar fight one year ago.

A Travis County judge issued a warrant for Chapman's arrest in March of this year following an investigation of the bar fight. Since then, Chapman has been a fugitive from justice.

Chapman rose to prominence following several violent protests in Berkeley in March 2017. During one of the rallies, Chapman was videotaped hitting several people over the head with a large wooden cane. After the attack, his followers nicknamed him "Based Stickman," and Chapman has turned his violent reputation into a profitable brand by selling his own line of clothing and appearing at pro-Trump and anti-immigration rallies around the country.

Last August, the Alameda County District Attorney charged Chapman with possession of a leaded cane for his actions in Berkeley. He has pleaded not guilty to the felony allegation.

On July 1 last year, Chapman was in Texas for the "Texans for America Freedom" rally at the State Capitol in Austin. Chapman was a featured speaker at the event.

After the protest, Chapman ended up at the Dirty Dog Bar, one of many nightclubs on Austin's busy 6th Street party district.

According to court records, at about 1:30 in the morning, Chapman was shoving people in a "mosh pit" when he got into an altercation with another bar patron. An Austin police detective wrote in a affidavit that Chapman punched the other man and then hit him across the face with a wooden bar stool.

The detective interviewed a witness who described Chapman's behavior at the bar as an "attempt to instigate" a fight. The witness said he saw Chapman punch the victim, and a second unidentified man who appeared to be with Chapman threw another punch.

The detective also reviewed surveillance video from the bar and was able to see a man fitting Chapman's description shoving people and then getting into an argument with the victim. According to the detective's description of events:
 

"Kyle intentionally shoves a patron and victim is seen approaching Kyle. They have a conversation and Kyle shoves [the victim] and then punches him in the face. Kyle grabs a large wooden bar stool and hits the victim in the forehead causing him to fall to the ground."


Chapman also made a drink purchase at the bar using his wife's credit card, and after the fight, he left the card behind. The credit card was later seized by the police and is being held as evidence.

According to court records, the victim, Collin Kruse, had fractures to his face and hemorrhaging in his brain and required surgery.

Glad they nabbed this piece of shit finally. I remember his victim.

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18 minutes ago, GSU&UT said:

People seriously need to stop quoting that piece of filth. She's the pre-plastic surgery Tammy 2.0 and desperately trying to get that Fox News money.

She's definitely trying a little too hard to get that Fox money, but damn that's too good of a self-own to pass up. 

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1 hour ago, Storm the Field said:

Trump's official Twitter lapdog with a scorching hot take:

 

I've never heard of this pimple faced kid, but took a look at his profile anyway.   Earlier today he was making several tweets about how Trump should tell NATO to get lost and how we should forge a new prosperous alliance with Russia.

He also bragged about how Putin is more popular with Republicans than Obama.

Anyone not convinced yet that the GOP is an enemy of this country and our true allies?

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I've never heard of this pimple faced kid, but took a look at his profile anyway.   Earlier today he was making several tweets about how Trump should tell NATO to get lost and how we should forge a new prosperous alliance with Russia.
He also bragged about how Putin is more popular with Republicans than Obama.
Anyone not convinced yet that the GOP is an enemy of this country and our true allies?

1 - yes, lots of people.

2 - who are either ass-rippingly stupid or outright treasonous, or perhaps both.
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Sovereign citizens confuse me. Like, how pants-shittingly crazy do you have to be to believe your lack of "acknowledgment" of a court or police authority over you puts a magic force field around you that protects you from arrest or prosecution?

One of my cop buddies says those types are among the scariest to deal with at traffic stops, because they're so unpredictable. 

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2 hours ago, Hank Kingsley said:

That’s a shame.

i think we are beginning to see what's going to happen to the people left behind.  there'll be the people die in prison, people who will be hoary when they next take a free step, and lots of people-who-can't-be-reached living shadow lives.  i wonder if russia would take any of them.  they'd have better lives there pretty much regardless.

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21 hours ago, bad_teammate said:

 

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-proud-boys-bar-20180717-story.html

First, the official story that seemingly everyone agrees on.

About 10:35 p.m. Saturday, Los Angeles police received a call about a large group fighting at the Griffin, a bar in Atwater Village. Upon arrival, officers told both groups to leave. No arrests were made. No report was taken.

The two parties involved in the fight — community organizers who volunteer with L.A. anti-gentrification organizations and the Democratic Socialists of America’s Los Angeles chapter, versus the Proud Boys, a far-right organization that will take issue with that description and, instead, describes itself as a pro-Western fraternal organization — agree on little more than the information above.

For starters, they don’t agree on how, when or why the fight started.

For 31-year-old L.A. organizer and comedian Josh Androsky, the fight started when the Proud Boys decided to come to his neighborhood.

Androsky started working to organize a group to go to the bar after getting a text message that the Proud Boys were going to the Griffin.

“The 1st Amendment protects the right to peaceably assemble,” Androsky said. “There’s no such thing as a peaceable assembly of Nazis. Just by virtue of their ideology, they are causing harm.”

The Proud Boys, established in 2016 by Vice Media co-founder Gavin McInnes, has been classified by the Southern Poverty Law Center as a hate group. The Proud Boys have rejected that classification, arguing that they’re a men’s organization “for men who refuse to apologize for creating the modern world, aka Western Chauvinists.”

They say they’re against political correctness and racial guilt, among other things.

The group has regional chapters, including in the Bay Area and Orange County. Members follow a dress code that includes polo shirts and engage in violent brawls with anti-fascists as part of their initiation, the SPLC has said. In April 2017, members of the Proud Boys and others in a spectrum of far-right groups clashed with anti-fascist protesters before a “Patriot’s Day” rally in Berkeley. The melee left many bloodied, and 21 were arrested.

When Androsky arrived at the bar with friends, they saw about 20 Proud Boys wearing their usual wardrobe: yellow and black Fred Perry polo shirts, along with red “Make America Great Again” hats.

Their first goal was to talk with the bar’s staff and ask them to escort the Proud Boys out. That didn’t happen, Androsky said.

Instead, he said, one of the bar staffers, after being told racists were meeting in the bar, responded: “The only color I see is green.”

Androsky said he noticed that the Proud Boys were beginning to circle around a few patrons celebrating a birthday. He became concerned that they were going to start a fight with the group, which included a few people of color.

“Hey, take off your dumb hats,” Androsky yelled at them. That got the group’s attention.

Madison McCabe, 28, a member of the Democratic Socialists of America L.A. group, said once she saw the Proud Boys converge on Androsky, who is her boyfriend, she stepped in front of a large Proud Boys member, placing her hand on his chest to stop him. McCabe, who is 5 foot, 4 inches and about 110 pounds, was shoved to the ground.

The Proud Boys L.A. president confirmed that McCabe was very likely shoved.

“She thought it was a good idea to shove a guy, and it turns out when you do that, they’ll shove you back,” he said. “But here’s the thing, she wasn’t hurt. She received a reasonable and appropriate response to putting hands on someone. The cops knew — they knew and said it was fine.”

This is the point in the evening when the Proud Boys say the fight started.

The group’s president said the fight began because someone stole one of his group members’ “Make America Great Again” hats.

Androsky confirmed he was the hat thief.

“After the Nazis shoved my girlfriend, my retaliation was to grab one of their hats and chuck it outside, and I feel great about my decision,” he said.

During an interview with The Times, the president of the Proud Boys Los Angeles chapter declined to give his full name because he said his group members have been attacked on social media, fired from their jobs for their political beliefs and physically attacked for wearing “Make America Great Again” hats.

He said the group went to the Griffin to enjoy each other’s company and rejected the notion that his group purposefully went to cause trouble in a part of Los Angeles where fewer than 20% of voters supported Donald Trump for president.

He said they were not harassing anyone but instead quietly enjoying their evening until Androsky and fellow organizers arrived and started shouting at them, calling them Nazis, racists and fascists. He said the Proud Boys are none of those things and instead “believe that Western culture is the best.”

The group, which has about 160 members and up to 300 pending applicants, is racially diverse, he said. The Proud Boys allow only “biological men,” but members do not have to identify as heterosexual, he said, noting that the vice president of the L.A. chapter is gay and Jewish.

The president, who said he is Chinese and Hawaiian, said his friends call him racial slurs sometimes because that’s how men show affection — “by talking [expletive] to each other.”

“I think that racial pride is stupid,” he said. “I think racial pride is stupid because how can you be proud of something you took no part in creating? I believe you can only be proud of accomplishments.… I’m not going to be proud of you because the stars were aligned, and you happened to come out of that person’s womb, and you happened to be white.”

Saturday’s fight escalated to the point that the Griffin staff closed the bar.

Once outside, the yelling continued.

After being called a “racist Nazi,” one Proud Boy member can be heard on a video posted to Twitter yelling to the community organizers, “I got a half-black [expletive] son, what the [expletive] up?”

Androsky said his goal of helping to organize a group to go to the Griffin was to show that “Nazis aren’t welcome in L.A.”

“The Proud Boys say they’re not Nazis, and duh, they’re not from 1945, they’re not 100 years old,” Androsky said. “But in America, there’s a fun little thing which is a catch-all term for right-wing racist hate groups, and it’s Nazi.”

Following the incident, the Griffin has been inundated with negative Yelp reviews and calls by some users on social media for a boycott.

On Sunday at 11:49 a.m., the Griffin posted a statement to its Facebook page underscoring that the bar doesn’t support the Proud Boys or any other related group. Ideally, the group would have been stopped at the door and not allowed in, the statement said.

“Since they were already inside I advised that we use a tactic that I’ve used in the past with gang members or people that are obviously in there to cause problems, kill them with kindness and they’ll get bored and go away,” the statement reads. “We are generally a pretty mellow and peaceful bar with no real security and I foolishly thought this was the best way to ensure they’d leave without putting my staff in danger.”

Later Sunday, the Griffin announced it would be closed that evening, and that moving forward, the bar staff will screen patrons and no hate group will be allowed on the premises.

The bar will also post signs at the bar’s entrance: “No sexism, no racism, no ableism, no ageism, no homophobia, no fatphobia, no transphobia, no hatefulness.”

Aaron Chepenik, one of the Griffin owners, said to ensure people understand that the Griffin and its owners care about the community, they will host a community benefit at 9 p.m. Wednesday, with proceeds going to the Los Feliz Neighborhood Council.

When asked whether they would return, both the community organizers and the Proud Boys said they have no plans to do so. They both agree they’re done with the Griffin.

 

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1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:


You know...that truth is actually one of the things that gives me some hope.

They’re fucking pathetic.

Combination of self-awareness and self-preservation.

They have enough self-awareness to know that the views they hold are morally repugnant to a large segment of society, and they know how internet searches on people work.

Their self-preservation instinct tells them that they will most likely be ostracized among some family and friends, perhaps lose a job or be kicked out of school, and so they tend to avoid open confrontations when possible,

Charlottesville and its aftermath, along with all of the examples of racist people being caught on video and being fired, taught them to get the hell out of Dodge if there is a chance of them becoming YouTube or Facebook stars.

March for white supremacy on Saturday, be fired on Monday, so to speak.

Decades ago, before social media, they could get away with this shit.   They could travel somewhere, confront people, including violently, and with or without a white hood on, and as long as they didn’t get arrested right there on the spot, they would get away with it.   Hell, some of them did it in their own towns, and if they were IDed, could still get away with it as long as a few people kept their mouths shut.

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You know...that truth is actually one of the things that gives me some hope.

They’re fucking pathetic.


Except Joe Soybeanfarmer will be the guy with access to explosives when he loses the farm due to current policy. Which talking point actually resonates- Trade Wars or the Evil Browns or Deep State/ Swamp only decides who the target is, not if there is a target.
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35 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Decades ago, before social media, they could get away with this shit.   They could travel somewhere, confront people, including violently, and with or without a white hood on, and as long as they didn’t get arrested right there on the spot, they would get away with it.   Hell, some of them did it in their own towns, and if they were IDed, could still get away with it as long as a few people kept their mouths shut.

Or if you get arrested at a Klan rally in Queens in the 1927 your son could later go on to become a super racist president.

Like that.

Times they are a'changin'

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I've been fascinated by Stolen Valor con artists recently, and one of the sites that regular exposes them is this one.  Only after I'd been reading its case studies on stolen valor types for a day or two did I realize it's super hard-right. As in "Kerry was a faker," all Dem presidents are pussies, etc. So you'd think they would be down with the Oath Keepers, as they claim to be good patriotic 'Merican veterans and first responders and such. But no, this site broke with them a few years ago, and the webmaster said something about how they seemed like a good idea, but I got the impression that the Oath Keepers are full of just the kind of dudes the Stolen Valor sites set out to expose: blowhards who wildly overstate their service (desk jockeys who claim to have been Marine snipers, SEALS, or Green Berets) or out and out liars who MAYBE finished boot camp and talk about their years of military service. Or maybe they are a constable in some county in one of the Dakotas where their most dangerous task is getting ol' Vern the town drunk into his normal Saturday night bunk in the jail without hitting his head. 

So yeah, Oath Keepers: Paper Tiger. 

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"Home Depot fires 60-year-old black man after Trump supporter screams racist abuse at him"

The Times-Union reports that Maurice Rucker, 60-year-old black man, was let go from a job he’s held for 10 years—making $13 an hour—because he politely asked a customer to leash his dog in the store." 

Of course the CEO of Home Depot is a big Trump supporter

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/07/home-depot-fires-60-year-old-black-man-trump-supporter-screams-racist-abuse/

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