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2 hours ago, ocugolf said:

I was in third grade. They pulled us all to the gym and rolled out one of those big box TVs and we watched coverage all afternoon. 
 

For as calculated and well thought out the bombing was, how McVeigh got caught always baffled me. No license plate? Something just doesn’t make sense there. 

He wanted to get caught and go down as a martyr.  We felt the floor shake, class was on the second floor...then tried to figure out who's parents were in the area at the time.  Was surreal at first then it got down right frightening...

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52 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

This will not be the last. 

These people are just so insanely ignorant and that ignorance is dangerous to the rest of us who understand the need for what we have been asked to do. We are going to see bombings related to this long after the most severe restrictions are lifted because people are just nuts and want revenge for being asked to be a responsible citizen. The craziness of these acts and these people is so ridiculously stupid.

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It's not just that they're violent idiotic pieces of shit.  It's that they are SO fucking idiotic that they can't figure out that even their mis-cited "Constitutional rights" don't mean shit on private property.  Waffle House and Costco are private properties, and they can have their own rules requiring masks.  And the Constitution is 100% ok with that.

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25 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

It's not just that they're violent idiotic pieces of shit.  It's that they are SO fucking idiotic that they can't figure out that even their mis-cited "Constitutional rights" don't mean shit on private property.  Waffle House and Costco are private properties, and they can have their own rules requiring masks.  And the Constitution is 100% ok with that.

But they're publicly traded companies!

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Has the president ever mentioned Boogaloo Boys in any context whatsoever?

"Levin said he said he shared memes about the so-called “Boogaloo” movement, a right-wing extremist group that anticipates civil war. Levin said the far-right groups are now more of a threat to government and law enforcement.

“Our research shows 27 far-right extremist connected homicides,” Levin said i. 2019. The FBI arrested three associates of the Boogaloo movement in Nevada, recently and they were charged with inciting violence with Molotov cocktails at protests.

Levin said Boogaloo followers range from ultra libertarians to white supremacists but they all share a belief in a second Civil War coming."

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So let me get this straight: these militia heroes, here to protect our American heritage and our way of life, decided that the best way to do so was to commit violent assault on a woman, then try to murder people when they react by coming after you?  

Yeah, I give that 20 bald eagles, 47 "Muricas, and eleventy billion 2nd Amendements.  FREEDOM LIBERTY PATRIOT GUN!

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I'm placing the following here due to the link to the Proud Boys. The clean cut "all American" scholarly trend among the white nationalists allows them to blend but there is nothing all American nor scholarly about them except perhaps they attend schools. And this is an issue, while higher ed is a great way to learn how to view the world through a critical lens, some of the hate groups are recruiting heavily in the schools, especially ones where they believe their message will be more welcome.

Meet Jaden McNeil.

He seems to be aware of the limits of free speech, but he hangs and those with whom he associates have bad intentions:

 

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Some more about McNeill.

He's a junior poli-sci major/pre-law.

Ran for SGA president this last year but only got one vote. (Hehe) He was with the KState TPUSA as President until this last year (when he was a freshman TPUSA was accused of trying to influence the election ) and then disbanded the chapter and reformed this student chapter of America First. And that appears to be the game plan to legitimize their platform. KState is their trial run before branching out (according to various media outlets)
 

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“They’ll say this is just liberals trying to taint them, that they’re just traditionalist conservatives who support Christian values,” Burghart said. “But all of the key leadership, the influencers, hold ideals that any rational person would categorize as white nationalist.

“Fuentes and Casey both represent this new generation of white nationalists. It’s a whole new ballgame. These aren’t millennials. This is white nationalism for the Zoomer generation.”

McNeil has described America First Students as “a campus conservative organization defined by our support for closed borders, traditional families, the American worker, and Christian values.”

 

Coming soon to a campus near you.

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I underestimated how much this is trending on twitter and the fight between the various groups. It is concerning in that something that seems small and local can unfortunately be the spark that goes unheeded before the conflagration.

#K-State and other associated hashtags are going back and forth.

Why mention this at all? Stephen Miller, that's why. He's watching too.

 

 

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“It is a sign of the speed at which events are moving that Hurst and Blackett’s unexpurgated edition of Mein Kampf, published only a year ago, is edited from a pro-Hitler angle. The obvious intention of the translator’s preface and notes is to tone down the book’s ferocity and present Hitler in as kindly a light as possible. For at that date Hitler was still respectable. He had crushed the German labour movement, and for that the property-owning classes were willing to forgive him almost anything. Both Left and Right concurred in the very shallow notion that National Socialism was merely a version of Conservatism.

Then suddenly it turned out that Hitler was not respectable after all. As one result of this, Hurst and Blackett’s edition was reissued in a new jacket explaining that all profits would be devoted to the Red Cross. Nevertheless, simply on the internal evidence of Mein Kampf, it is difficult to believe that any real change has taken place in Hitler’s aims and opinions.

When one compares his utterances of a year or so ago with those made fifteen years earlier, a thing that strikes one is the rigidity of his mind, the way in which his world-view doesn’t develop. It is the fixed vision of a monomaniac and not likely to be much affected by the temporary manoeuvres of power politics. Probably, in Hitler’s own mind, the Russo-German Pact represents no more than an alteration of time-table. The plan laid down in Mein Kampf was to smash Russia first, with the implied intention of smashing England afterwards. Now, as it has turned out, England has got to be dealt with first, because Russia was the more easily bribed of the two. But Russia’s turn will come when England is out of the picture—that, no doubt, is how Hitler sees it. Whether it will turn out that way is of course a different question.

Suppose that Hitler’s programme could be put into effect. What he envisages, a hundred years hence, is a continuous state of 250 million Germans with plenty of ‘living room’ (i.e. stretching to Afghanistan or thereabouts), a horrible brainless empire in which, essentially, nothing ever happens except the training of young men for war and the endless breeding of fresh cannon-fodder. How was it that he was able to put this monstrous vision across? It is easy to say that at one stage of his career he was financed by the heavy industrialists, who saw in him the man who would smash the Socialists and Communists. They would not have backed him, however, if he had not talked a great movement into existence already. Again, the situation in Germany, with its seven million unemployed, was obviously favourable for demagogues.

But Hitler could not have succeeded against his many rivals if it had not been for the attraction of his own personality, which one can feel even in the clumsy writing of Mein Kampf, and which is no doubt overwhelming when one hears his speeches…The fact is that there is something deeply appealing about him. One feels it again when one sees his photographs—and I recommend especially the photograph at the beginning of Hurst and Blackett’s edition, which shows Hitler in his early Brownshirt days. It is a pathetic, dog-like face, the face of a man suffering under intolerable wrongs. In a rather more manly way it reproduces the expression of innumerable pictures of Christ crucified, and there is little doubt that that is how Hitler sees himself.

The initial, personal cause of his grievance against the universe can only be guessed at; but at any rate the grievance is here. He is the martyr, the victim, Prometheus chained to the rock, the self-sacrificing hero who fights single-handed against impossible odds. If he were killing a mouse he would know how to make it seem like a dragon. One feels, as with Napoleon, that he is fighting against destiny, that he can’t win, and yet that he somehow deserves to. The attraction of such a pose is of course enormous; half the films that one sees turn upon some such theme.

Also he has grasped the falsity of the hedonistic attitude to life. Nearly all western thought since the last war, certainly all ‘progressive’ thought, has assumed tacitly that human beings desire nothing beyond ease, security and avoidance of pain. In such a view of life there is no room, for instance, for patriotism and the military virtues. The Socialist who finds his children playing with soldiers is usually upset, but he is never able to think of a substitute for the tin soldiers; tin pacifists somehow won’t do. Hitler, because in his own joyless mind he feels it with exceptional strength, knows that human beings don’t only want comfort, safety, short working-hours, hygiene, birth-control and, in general, common sense; they also, at least intermittently, want struggle and self-sacrifice, not to mention drums, flags and loyalty-parades.

However they may be as economic theories, Fascism and Nazism are psychologically far sounder than any hedonistic conception of life. The same is probably true of Stalin’s militarised version of Socialism. All three of the great dictators have enhanced their power by imposing intolerable burdens on their peoples. Whereas Socialism, and even capitalism in a more grudging way, have said to people ‘I offer you a good time,’ Hitler has said to them ‘I offer you struggle, danger and death,’ and as a result a whole nation flings itself at his feet. Perhaps later on they will get sick of it and change their minds, as at the end of the last war. After a few years of slaughter and starvation ‘Greatest happiness of the greatest number’ is a good slogan, but at this moment ‘Better an end with horror than a horror without end’ is a winner. Now that we are fighting against the man who coined it, we ought not to underrate its emotional appeal.”

George Orwell, The New English Weekly, March 21, 1940

https://lithub.com/celebrate-george-orwells-birthday-by-reading-his-scathing-1940-review-of-mein-kampf/

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Not sure if this is the Reich thread for this, but it's certainly...noteworthy: 

Elite German commando unit disbanded; ammunition and explosives missing; Nazi shit found in barracks

There's been speculation elsewhere that neo-Nazis have been infiltrating our own armed forces for some time now. What this story implies is that it isn't just an American problem -- as if anyone who's been paying attention hadn't already presumed. Just more fuel for the fire that this shit is poisoning our Western allies too.

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