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2 hours ago, Satchel said:

 

1 hour ago, royiv said:

Doesn't seem very Christian-like.

No way in hell he will personally dirty his hands or risk anything with any kind of "insurrection" - he'll urge his followers to do it, but not him - he's got too much money and too much of a cushy lifestyle to fuck around and find out.

That's what those fucking idiots on January 6th failed to realize  - they were being cheered on/urged on by people - politicians, talking heads on TV, influencers, etc. who had no intention of risking their cushy lifestyles.

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I’m no super model but I don’t suck dick for meth. Let’s see if you’re brave enough for judging, tough guy.

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How can he respond? He was literally just arrested in the back of a U-Haul 

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No he means he's amazed that you're such a fucking idiot. What's the difference? The Muslim side is a huge menacing photo of a young adult who is standing defiantly with a smirk on his face and look

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5 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

No way in hell he will personally dirty his hands or risk anything with any kind of "insurrection" - he'll urge his followers to do it, but not him - he's got too much money and too much of a cushy lifestyle to fuck around and find out.

That's what those fucking idiots on January 6th failed to realize  - they were being cheered on/urged on by people - politicians, talking heads on TV, influencers, etc. who had no intention of risking their cushy lifestyles.

He’s prides himself on being called a “Jesus Jerk”. You kinda have to be one to send your wife and the mother of your four children packing on bus because you think she’s mentally ill. Oh, and his new girlfriend (from the church) may have prompted his decision to dump the wife:

A Pulpit & Pen report said Locke, who shot to internet fame after he posted a video on Facebook on April 22, 2016, criticizing Target for its new policies on gender-neutral bathrooms, "literally put his wife, Melissa, on a bus and sent her away." The couple have four children, including two who were adopted.

 

Sources from Locke's church reportedly told Pulpit & Pen that he recently claimed that his wife was mentally ill and that they were getting a divorce. Many in the congregation, however, appeared unaware that Melissa was suffering from any illness.

"Locke then laid out ultimatums to the congregation, telling them that they had to walk with him in his 'brokenness,'" the report said.

It was then quickly revealed that Locke was in a relationship with a woman identified as "Tai."

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I read the ADL report where the chart comes from and will link below.  A lot to think about and I haven’t fully formulated my thoughts.  Scattershooting a bit:

- Extremist related killings have been going down since 2016. Good news! In 2021, 17 murders nationwide were extremism related. 2013 and 2014 were really bad. Theory: Right wing extremists were frustrated at eight years of Obama and these were also pretty angry times when it came to GWOT issues.  Perhaps right wingers especially cooled out a bit, ironically, when they believed their Orange Man was advancing their agenda. Stay tuned.

- Before 1980, extremist related police officer killings were almost entirely a phenomenon of the political left. Since 2000, almost entirely the right.  Fascinating.

- ADL lists all killings BY extremists regardless of motive. In 2021, there were a number of killings by White Supremacist prison gang members of other gang members/criminal associates/people they knew. These gang members are obviously racist pieces of shit but I think we have to tackle this differently than political-motivated violence. I am unaware of any violent prison gangs open to white prisoners that are NOT ostensibly tied to supremacist ideologies, and so to me this is sort of “violent criminals are violent pieces of shit.” They pose a bigger threat to other white supremacist criminals and criminals of different races in prison than they do to civilians of different races.  Obviously the existence of these groups is not OK, but you have very different motivations for joining and very different targets. 
 

- No domestic Islamist related murders in 2021. Nevertheless, 20 percent of all killings in a decade is significant and is even more so when considering that probably fewer than 2 percent of Americans are Muslim. 

- Basically, political and ideological violence in America in the 2010s is exclusively male and is almost entirely a feature of angry conservatives/MRAs/White Supremacists/Islamists. 
 

https://www.adl.org/media/15825/download

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It's generally the pattern that white right-wing violence escalates when a Democrat is in the White House, though I think that matters less today than it used to given the prevalence of genocidal rhetoric in the mainstream right now.  Another complicating factor in the recent analysis though is the pandemic. Indoor public places weren't target rich environments in 2020 or part of 2021. BLM marches were certainly seen as targets, but the violence aimed that them for some reason was more of the running-them-over-with-cars variety than shootings. 

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3 hours ago, Bama Chick said:

I get why attacks by Islamic extremists are separated out but I’d argue they are - at their core - also “right wing”.

Of course they are. Theocracy is right-wing authoritarian ideology. All religious conservatives suck.

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Some reports are saying not a militia member, but I'd be curious if it was and which one it was - these militias in Michigan seem really fucking nuts.

 

Those fake patches, rockers and other pseudo military shit are absolute affronts to the men and women that have legit unit pride, sewed on a real tab or otherwise earned distinguishing features on their uniform.  

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16 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Radical republicans are up to something.  That’s my conspiracy theory.

 

I'm skeptical that preacher is on good terms with the Lord. The omnipotent God has, I am certain, a sense of both humor and horror in seeing that someone who preaches hate in front of  cutesy signs with intentionally  mis-spelled words is a charlatan and a blasphemer in no uncertain terms.

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Radical republicans are up to something.  That’s my conspiracy theory.

 

 

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The National Terrorism Advisory Bulletin was reissued by the DHS today:

The United States remains in a heightened threat environment, as noted in the previous Bulletin, and several recent attacks have highlighted the dynamic and complex nature of the threat environment.  In the coming months, we expect the threat environment to become more dynamic as several high-profile events could be exploited to justify acts of violence against a range of possible targets. These targets could include public gatherings, faith-based institutions, schools, racial and religious minorities, government facilities and personnel, U.S. critical infrastructure, the media, and perceived ideological opponents.  Threat actors have recently mobilized to violence due to factors such as personal grievances, reactions to current events, and adherence to violent extremist ideologies, including racially or ethnically motivated or anti-government/anti-authority violent extremism.  Foreign adversaries—including terrorist organizations and nation state adversaries—also remain intent on exploiting the threat environment to promote or inspire violence, sow discord, or undermine U.S. democratic institutions.  We continue to assess that the primary threat of mass casualty violence in the United States stems from lone offenders and small groups motivated by a range of ideological beliefs and/or personal grievances

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15 hours ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

Know how I know this asshole hasn't read the Bible?

You clearly haven't read Mark 12:28-31 from the New American Republican Bible:

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One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, “Of all the commandments, which is the most  “The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: Love  the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength. The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.  Except the gays -- they should be lined up against a wall and shot in the back of the head, preferably by an AR-15, which God provides to you via the 2nd Amendment.’ There is no commandment greater than these.”

 

 

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49 minutes ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

Y'all see this lovely racist asshole in Houston? Here's the story:

https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/westchase-racist-rant-reddit-17225647.php

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"Probably doesn't get oustide" he says to the guy he's literally harassing while he's walking outside. Should have let that dog loose on that hillbilly. 

Oh, there it is. "White girls that date mexicans." So, an incel. 

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"Probably doesn't get oustide" he says to the guy he's literally harassing while he's walking outside. Should have let that dog loose on that hillbilly. 

Oh, there it is. "White girls that date mexicans." So, an incel. 

Same old same old.

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18 hours ago, TexArcher said:

 

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Interesting he wants to shoot all the gays, when the only Bible he believes is true was created by a king that was at least bisexual, if not outright gay.

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2 hours ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

Y'all see this lovely racist asshole in Houston? Here's the story:

https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/westchase-racist-rant-reddit-17225647.php

Here's the video:
 




 

Comments for videos like that are usually turned off for good reason.  If you want to be sick to your stomach, read through that shit and see what's getting the upvotes.  The guy recording should have turned it off at the right moment and let that dog do the work she clearly wanted to do.  

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There needs to be a legal asshole exception that allows you to punch assholes who really deserve it. 

Or just brain the piece of shit with a wooden Louisville Slugger. Dude showed more patience than I ever could or would have. Good on the dude filming for keeping his shit in his bag.
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On 1/22/2022 at 9:23 AM, Neonmoon said:

They finally charged her. Local law released a statement saying she called and apologized, so it’s all good. But I think enough pressure was put on them to do their fucking jobs. Husband runs a gun group or some shit. So I’m sure he’s tight with the cops

 

 

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On 1/25/2022 at 1:39 PM, Captainant said:

DailyBeast: DHS Warns That Right-Wing Extremists Could Attack Power Grid

Domestic violent extremists and racially motivated extremists have been developing plans to attack the U.S. electric sector, according to an intelligence bulletin from the Department of Homeland Security that was issued this week and obtained by The Daily Beast.

“DVEs have developed credible, specific plans to attack electricity infrastructure since at least 2020, identifying the electric grid as a particularly attractive target given its interdependency with other infrastructure sectors,” the alert said.

DHS’ Office of Intelligence and Analysis issued the alert to the electric sector Monday, following requests from power companies to take stock of increased threats from domestic violent extremists in 2020 and 2021.

The alert comes as DHS and federal investigators strain to keep up with the threat of domestic violent extremists, and continue to work to charge participants in the Jan. 6 insurrection. The head of DHS’ Office of Intelligence and Analysis John Cohen told lawmakers in recent testimony that, nearly one year after the riot on Capitol Hill, the threat landscape from domestic violent extremists “is one of the most complex, volatile, and dynamic that I’ve experienced in my career.”

DHS has been buckling down on efforts to share more intelligence on domestic violent extremism with the private sector and state and local partners, according to Cohen. Over the last year and a half, the FBI has been pushing more resources to domestic terrorism investigations. And the FBI has more than doubled its domestic terrorism caseload since spring of 2020, according to FBI Director Christopher Wray.

White supremacists expressed interest in “wreaking havoc” on the power grid if President Donald Trump were to lose re-election in 2020. And last year, four men with ties to racially motivated extremists were charged with conspiracy to damage the property of an energy facility in the United States, after using assault-style rifles in an attempt to explode a power substation.

DHS intelligence suggests that domestic violent extremists will continue to plot attacks against electrical infrastructure in the U.S. that “may result in physical damage.” Conversations from domestic violent extremists online in recent months have focused on encouraging lone wolf attacks, as well as attempts to inspire individuals with little or no training to go after electric infrastructure—including with firearms, improvised incendiary devices, hammers, and power saws.

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On 5/17/2022 at 12:36 PM, bolverk said:

The Right’s Violence Problem
The Buffalo killings are part of a pattern: Most extremist violence in the U.S. comes from the political right.

Over the past decade, the Anti-Defamation League has counted about 450 U.S. murders committed by political extremists.

Of these 450 killings, right-wing extremists committed about 75 percent. Islamic extremists were responsible for about 20 percent, and left-wing extremists were responsible for 4 percent.

Nearly half of the murders were specifically tied to white supremacists:

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As this data shows, the American political right has a violence problem that has no equivalent on the left. And the 10 victims in Buffalo this past weekend are now part of this toll. “Right-wing extremist violence is our biggest threat,” Jonathan Greenblatt, the head of the ADL, has written. “The numbers don’t lie.”

The pattern extends to violence less severe than murder, like the Jan. 6 attack on Congress. It also extends to the language from some Republican politicians — including Donald Trump — and conservative media figures that treats violence as a legitimate form of political expression. A much larger number of Republican officials do not use this language but also do not denounce it or punish politicians who do use it; Kevin McCarthy, the top House Republican, is a leading example.

It’s important to emphasize that not all extremist violence comes from the right — and that the precise explanation for any one attack can be murky, involving a mixture of ideology, mental illness, gun access and more. In the immediate aftermath of an attack, people are sometimes too quick to claim a direct cause and effect. But it is also incorrect to pretend that right-wing violence and left-wing violence are equivalent problems.

Fears in Washington
If you talk to members of Congress and their aides these days — especially off the record — you will often hear them mention their fears of violence being committed against them.

Some Republican members of Congress have said that they were reluctant to vote for Trump’s impeachment or conviction partly because of the threats against other members who had already denounced him. House Republicans who voted for President Biden’s infrastructure bill also received threats. Democrats say their offices receive a spike in phone calls and online messages threatening violence after they are criticized on conservative social media or cable television shows.

People who oversee elections report similar problems. “One in six elec­tion offi­cials have exper­i­enced threats because of their job,” the Brennan Center, a research group, reported this year. “Ranging from death threats that name offi­cials’ young chil­dren to racist and gendered harass­ment, these attacks have forced elec­tion offi­cials across the coun­try to take steps like hiring personal secur­ity, flee­ing their homes, and putting their chil­dren into coun­sel­ing.”

There is often overlap between these violent threats and white supremacist beliefs. White supremacy tends to treat people of color as un-American or even less than fully human, views that can make violence seem justifiable. The suspect in the Buffalo massacre evidently posted an online manifesto that discussed replacement theory, a racial conspiracy theory that Tucker Carlson promotes on his Fox News show.

“History has taught us that what begins with words ends in far worse,” Representative Liz Cheney, one of the few Republicans who have repeatedly and consistently denounced violence and talk of violence from the right, wrote on Twitter yesterday. “The House GOP leadership has enabled white nationalism, white supremacy, and antisemitism,” Cheney wrote, and called on Republican leaders to “renounce and reject these views and those who hold them.”

A few other Republicans, like Senator Mitt Romney, have taken a similar stance. But many other prominent Republicans have taken a more neutral stance or even embraced talk of violence.

Some have spoken openly about violence as a legitimate political tool — and not just Trump, who has done so frequently.

At the rally that preceded the Jan. 6 attack, Representative Mo Brooks suggested the crowd should “start taking down names and kicking ass.” Before she was elected to Congress, Marjorie Taylor Greene supported the idea of executing Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi and other top Democrats. Representative Paul Gosar once posted an animated video altered to depict himself killing Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and swinging swords at Biden.

Rick Perry, a former Texas governor, once called the Federal Reserve “treasonous” and talked about treating its chairman “pretty ugly.” During Greg Gianforte’s campaign for Montana’s House seat, he went so far as to assault a reporter who asked him a question he didn’t like; Gianforte won and has since become Montana’s governor.

These Republicans have received no meaningful sanction from their party. McCarthy, the Republican leader in the House, has been especially solicitous of Brooks and other members who use violent imagery.

This Republican comfort with violence is new. Republican leaders from past decades, like Ronald Reagan, Bob Dole, Howard Baker and the Bushes, did not evoke violence.

“In a stable democracy,” Steven Levitsky, a Harvard political scientist, told me, “politicians unambiguously reject violence and unambiguously expel from their ranks antidemocratic forces.”

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