Horns Down

[Bill Lumbergh 7171]

I'm assuming the league has contacted wvu with a reprimand for flying the UT flag upside down at the ou game? 

Since, you know, we're all into reprimands now. 

[utee94 15824]

33 minutes ago, Bill Lumbergh said:

I'm assuming the league has contacted wvu with a reprimand for flying the UT flag upside down at the ou game? 

Since, you know, we're all into reprimands now. 

Oh, I'm sure the league office is putting its best men on it.  Working in shifts.

[po elvis 2070]

i love the horns down. teams doing it when they aren't even playing us? awesome. what other program gets this kind of attention?

but if it is a 15 yard penalty to taunt, then i want that 15 yard penalty. every time.

[idigTexas 2289]

I've never understood what is so insulting about a downward pointed hook 'em gesture.  That just looks like a longhorn charging someone to me.  But intent is everything, and it should definitely be considered taunting when a player does it. 

[Helobious 9454]

On 11/7/2018 at 1:36 PM, Juicy said:

Barstool wrote an article about this 

https://www.barstoolsports.com/barstoolu/it-bothers-us-a-lot-tom-herman-and-texas-players-are-incredibly-butt-hurt-about-the-horns-down-celebration

WVU is petty as fuck.... but UT needs to stop crying 

Fuck barstool. But yes, it’s pretty clear most of CFB fans are not on Texas’ side about this issue.

[Helobious 9454]

8 minutes ago, idigTexas said:

I've never understood what is so insulting about a downward pointed hook 'em gesture.  That just looks like a longhorn charging someone to me.  But intent is everything, and it should definitely be considered taunting when a player does it. 

Totally off-topic thing this reminds me of: The first time I saw the Wall Street bull I thought it looked like a bull that had been sprinting and was trying to stop itself suddenly. Very odd pose for a “charging” bull.

[Cornfusion 250]

I'm not much for any sort of spectacle outside of patting a teammate on the back or slapping his helmet.  All of this "Look at me!" self aggrandizement or "In your face!" taunting seems juvenile and contrary to what many claim athletics is supposed to engender in the participants.  So I am against "Horns Any Which Way" when flashed at an opposing team.  Plus, everybody stay off my lawn and if your ball goes over the fence and into my yard, you don't get it back until I tell you how hard I had it when I was your age.

[Machinator 32099]

 

[Constant 6732]

Pussy is still undefeated. 

[totallynotabuttpirate 5400]

LMAO, so hilarious how important it is for opponents to be able to flash the horns down. I guess there's nothing else to worry about in Norman? 

[Bruh Man 3160]

 

[Pato del Muerto 52504]

Those hard line guys love to get horn fans riled up. The decision from the league office has zero to do with Tom herman. 

[mdmost 43003]

Corby's a fucking idiot. Always has been. Aside from winning the Big 12, beating OU again to spoil his year will be the best part of if we win on Saturday.

[utee94 15824]

47 minutes ago, Constant said:

Pussy is still undefeated. 

Bulshit.  Kyler Murray is the biggest pussy on the planet and he's already been defeated once this season.  Gonna be twice on Saturday.

Take the loss, pussy.

 

[Zepol87 9188]

Fuck Corby. Fucking clown

[Tex Pete 20354]

2 hours ago, Constant said:

Pussy is still undefeated. 

Fuck off. I can’t even imagine making the inversion of my rival’s handsign my school’s handsign. Such trashy people repping a trashy, third rate school. 

[mdleast 8295]

I think the conference, as is not uncommon, took the stupid position. Who gives a shit if our rivals talk shit to us...whether verbally (speaking of, it’s 10:19 and OU still sucks) or otherwise (lazy reverse hand signs). Just win or shut the fuck up from either side.

 

 

[kopp0e 1135]

Things gettin' pretty trippy over on dirt, from this one tweet:

https://www.dirtburglars.com/forum/sports-forums/athletics/football/192670-horns-down-is-now-officially-a-penalty

[Constant 6732]

7 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

Fuck off. I can’t even imagine making the inversion of my rival’s handsign my school’s handsign. Such trashy people repping a trashy, third rate school. 

Yet I would imagine it doesn’t bother you at all that you change the words to your schools fight song in order to put down a rival. 

[kopp0e 1135]

3 minutes ago, mdleast said:

I think the conference, as is not uncommon, took the stupid position. Who gives a shit if our rivals talk shit to us...whether verbally (speaking of, it’s 10:19 and OU still sucks) or otherwise (lazy reverse hand signs). Just win or shut the fuck up from either side.

 

 

Agreed..! I love this rivalry.!!

[Tex Pete 20354]

2 minutes ago, Constant said:

Yet I would imagine it doesn’t bother you at all that you change the words to your schools fight song in order to put down a rival. 

For one game a year (two this year)? You’re right. Doesn’t bother me. 

Our players aren’t singing it on the field, and it has nothing to do with the taunting penalty.

I also can’t imagine have such a piece of shit for a coach that he would actually ask the league about it. Hello Lincoln and Holgo. 

[Tex Pete 20354]

8 minutes ago, mdleast said:

I think the conference, as is not uncommon, took the stupid position. Who gives a shit if our rivals talk shit to us...whether verbally (speaking of, it’s 10:19 and OU still sucks) or otherwise (lazy reverse hand signs). Just win or shut the fuck up from either side.

If it’s a penalty, it should be enforced. I’m sick of watching blatant penalties go uncalled (like OU’s incessant holding).

[Blotto 23523]

9 minutes ago, mdleast said:

I think the conference, as is not uncommon, took the stupid position. Who gives a shit if our rivals talk shit to us...whether verbally (speaking of, it’s 10:19 and OU still sucks) or otherwise (lazy reverse hand signs). Just win or shut the fuck up from either side.

 

 

So much this.

[Surly Bevo 24932]

I’m sure we can get past this nasty business of taunting and supposed poor sportsmanship.

I mean right here is a perfect example we can all aspire to. Look at how that fine young gentleman is helping out the poor midget retarded kid who has seemingly taken some abuse to his cranial facial area.

[Pato del Muerto 52504]

8 minutes ago, Constant said:

Yet I would imagine it doesn’t bother you at all that you change the words to your schools fight song in order to put down a rival. 

You do or do not think that fans are held to a different standard than players and coaches?

fans can taunt all they want. 

There’s a reason Hager got reprimanded for saying ou sucks.  If he says it to a player on Saturday it would draw a penalty. 

Change the taunting rule, eliminate it, or enforce it. 

[ChiTownDoc 21154]

2 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

You do or do not think that fans are held to a different standard than players and coaches?

fans can taunt all they want. 

There’s a reason Hager got reprimanded for saying ou sucks.  If he says it to a player on Saturday it would draw a penalty. 

Change the taunting rule, eliminate it, or enforce it. 

You sound ok with Hager getting reprimanded?  I honestly haven't talked to a single sooner fan that thought he should have been.  The league is soft af.  The XII already has a perception problem.  The truth is this conference was easily second best on the year as far as the teams but you'll never hear that from the talking heads.  Instead our league office and officials make news for being complete fucking idiots. 

 

[SKA the boss 729]

Didn’t read the thread because idgaf if unoriginal hillbillies can’t make up their own signs and feel self-important when they use our awesome Horns incorrectly. Fuck ‘em.
btw.... I did finally learn the words to that annoying ass song ou plays every time they score, get a first down, or someone gets up to take a piss. Read on if you care.

Took the wheels off my trailer
Dukes of Hazard’s on at 5
A tornado took my pickup
And my cousin is my wife
Goober goober goober goober

Pretty sure that’s all correct.

[Constant 6732]

17 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

For one game a year (two this year)? You’re right. Doesn’t bother me. 

Our players aren’t singing it on the field, and it has nothing to do with the taunting penalty.

I also can’t imagine have such a piece of shit for a coach that he would actually ask the league about it. Hello Lincoln and Holgo. 

Haha ok.

 

Pretty sure Lincoln just wanted clarification if it’s gonna be a penalty this Saturday. It can be hard to keep up with what will be offensive this week. 

[Tex Pete 20354]

1 minute ago, Constant said:

Haha ok.

 

Pretty sure Lincoln just wanted clarification if it’s gonna be a penalty this Saturday. It can be hard to keep up with what will be offensive this week. 

We don’t make the rules. 

[PatSolitanojr 518]

Is it just me or is this penalty eerily coinciding with CDC taking charge? 

[Tex Pete 20354]

1 minute ago, PatSolitanojr said:

Is it just me or is this penalty eerily coinciding with CDC taking charge? 

Maybe better officiating is coming soon. I won’t hold my breath. 

[Zavala 1384]

They can do horns down as long as they keep their hands out of Hagers asshole. How did they not call a penelty on that and throw the guy out of the game?

[UDontKnow 10446]

4 minutes ago, Zavala said:

They can do horns down as long as they keep their hands out of Hagers asshole. How did they not call a penelty on that and throw the guy out of the game?

Big 12 refs gonna Big 12 ref.

[Pato del Muerto 52504]

15 minutes ago, Zavala said:

They can do horns down as long as they keep their hands out of Hagers asshole. How did they not call a penelty on that and throw the guy out of the game?

They actually threw a flag for unnecessary roughness on Hager that had to be picked up when he was informed of the fumble. So he was for sure looking at Hager when it happened. 

And I think taunting is part of the game and should be allowed as should td celebrations. 

So change the rules. But if they’re your rules, enforce them. 

[Valmy77 13226]

2 hours ago, Bruh Man said:

 

I don't understand how NCAA rules and the action of Big 12 officials are Tom Herman's fault. But if Herman can get penalties called on things, then maybe he should expand his range. This kind of unprecedented power should be mobilized.

[Valmy77 13226]

47 minutes ago, Constant said:

Pretty sure Lincoln just wanted clarification if it’s gonna be a penalty this Saturday. It can be hard to keep up with what will be offensive this week. 

It is not a matter of it being offensive but it does make good sense to get clarification on this sort of thing.

Though I do not that this penalty had never been called before Holgo started asking about it. Kind of weird.

[Valmy77 13226]

1 hour ago, ChiTownDoc said:

You sound ok with Hager getting reprimanded?  I honestly haven't talked to a single sooner fan that thought he should have been.  The league is soft af.  The XII already has a perception problem.  The truth is this conference was easily second best on the year as far as the teams but you'll never hear that from the talking heads.  Instead our league office and officials make news for being complete fucking idiots. 

 

I don't get the reprimand thing at all. I mean I would get it if he was attacking some OU players personally or something but he clearly was just joking around. But that is a different thing from a written rule in black and white like taunting that results in a 15 yard penalty. And hey if you don't enforce the horns down taunt, which is fine by me, then let UT do similar shit without flagging us.

Edited November 28, 2018 by Valmy77

[MacLaren 62]

I'm not a fan of it.  I think it's classless and should be considered taunting/unsportsmanlike.  

[ChiTownDoc 21154]

23 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

I don't get the reprimand thing at all. I mean I would get it if he was attacking some OU players personally or something but he clearly was just joking around. But that is a different thing from a written rule in black and white like taunting that results in a 15 yard penalty. And hey if you don't enforce the horns down taunt, which is fine by me, then let UT do similar shit without flagging us.

I think if you do it to a Texas player, you get flagged.  If you're going to the end zone and just throw them up to the crowd, no flag.  But that's just me.  

[Valmy77 13226]

1 minute ago, ChiTownDoc said:

I think if you do it to a Texas player, you get flagged.  If you're going to the end zone and just throw them up to the crowd, no flag.  But that's just me.  

Well it is only ever been flagged once ever so I am not really clear on the nuances.

[ChiTownDoc 21154]

Also wasn't this an OU thing?  I don't think even aggy did it.  The 'sips' and saw em off shit is 100x as dumb imo.  'Sips' makes my skin crawl and I'm obviously not a Texas fan. 

Is it a recent thing that every team in the XII seems to have co-opted the horns down?  

[Valmy77 13226]

18 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Also wasn't this an OU thing?  I don't think even aggy did it.  The 'sips' and saw em off shit is 100x as dumb imo.  'Sips' makes my skin crawl and I'm obviously not a Texas fan. 

Is it a recent thing that every team in the XII seems to have co-opted the horns down?  

A&M does it now. Or at least their pitcher did when he beat us in the Baseball regionals back in 2014 (Fortunately Texas then beat them the next day to send them home)

Every single team we play does the Horns Down in and out of conference. I have no idea how long it has been going on or who started it. The Miami Hurricanes were doing it enthusiastically during the 1991 Cotton Bowl so it has been around a long time.

Edited November 28, 2018 by Valmy77

[kopp0e 1135]

1 hour ago, Tex Pete said:

Maybe better officiating is coming soon. I won’t hold my breath. 

Me:  

[Bone3421 716]

Things gettin' pretty trippy over on dirt, from this one tweet:
[/url] https://www.dirtburglars.com/forum/sports-forums/athletics/football/192670-horns-down-is-now-officially-a-penalty

I see they are just as rationale as always....

[Bone3421 716]

You sound ok with Hager getting reprimanded?  I honestly haven't talked to a single sooner fan that thought he should have been.  The league is soft af.  The XII already has a perception problem.  The truth is this conference was easily second best on the year as far as the teams but you'll never hear that from the talking heads.  Instead our league office and officials make news for being complete fucking idiots. 
 

Its the same with the horns down...hager was reprimanded because he broke a rule;no one liked it but its a rule; same with horns down it is taunting by the letter of the rule and as been mention texas players have been flagged for horns up/guns down

Change the rule or enforce it is the argument...thats it

[TexMexBuddha 987]

 

On 11/7/2018 at 9:38 AM, Greg Davis Apologist said:

What do you have in mind as a classless jackass retort to opposing teams throwing the horns down?

 

How about this?

 

[Tex Pete 20354]

1 hour ago, ChiTownDoc said:

I think if you do it to a Texas player, you get flagged.  If you're going to the end zone and just throw them up to the crowd, no flag.  But that's just me.  

I think doing anything in the opponent’s end to taunt their fans is trashy. It made Will Grier and his buttbuddies look like complete imbeciles. I’d say the same thing if it were one of our players.

If your douchebags want to go throw the horns down in your end zone with your white trash fans, more power to them. 

[Tex Pete 20354]

6 minutes ago, TexMexBuddha said:

 

How about this?

 

Tom got caught up in the moment and was mocking Mizzou’s dipshit QB after Mizzou’s players had been taunting our players all week. Tom wasn’t on their sideline, in their end zone, or in any of their players’ or coaches’ faces, so I don’t need really think it compares to the horns down, at least the way WV was doing it  

But if the refs had seen fit to call a penalty there, I would have understood and wouldn’t even have complained. 

[TexMexBuddha 987]

1 minute ago, Tex Pete said:

Tom got caught up in the moment and was mocking Mizzou’s dipshit QB after Mizzou’s players had been taunting our players all week. Tom wasn’t on their sideline, in their end zone, or in any of their players’ or coaches’ faces, so I don’t need really think it compares to the horns down, at least the way WV was doing it  

But if the refs had seen fit to call a penalty there, I would have understood and wouldn’t even have complained. 

Agreed. If they called the penalty, it would not have bothered me. And their QB was a dipshit. This just made me think about getting caught in the emotion of the moment, and that football is a pretty damn good sport for getting caught in the moment. Horns down does not bother me.

The proper response is to Mossy Cade or Westbrook their asses every single possible play.

[Tex Pete 20354]

I do have a problem with WVU’s obsession with it. I mean, their coach asked about it before the game. Multiple players threw it during the game, resulting in two penalties, then they showed what complete fucksticks they are by using it as a play signal the next week. That’s low class. Really says a lot about Dana Holgorsen.