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12 minutes ago, Captainant said:

They're throwing out forms because they don't match exactly. I'm talking the difference of a hypen or leaving out a middle initial.

I find this claim on its face bs if there is other corroborating information on the form.  I'm happy to be wrong and condemn the act if true but a lot of these claims are made for political purposes.   I've worked for a city.  BS claims are made for political  purposes all the time.  More often than not, they are not legitimate.  

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Counting all the votes is not voter fraud.  Please FUCK OFF with this narrative that counting outstanding votes is shady/unethical.  Suing to STOP votes being counted (looking at you, Arizona GOP) sho

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Apologies for interrupting the Left Wing circle jerk in here.   Carry on.

Gil Bang
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Not "evenly", just well-gerrymandered to keep the GOP heads above water.

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1 minute ago, AtticusFinch said:

I find this claim on its face bs if there is other corroborating information on the form.  I'm happy to be wrong and condemn the act if true but a lot of these claims are made for political purposes.   I've worked for a city.  BS claims are made for political  purposes all the time.  More often than not, they are not legitimate.  

https://www.npr.org/2018/11/03/663937578/judge-rules-against-georgia-election-law-calling-it-a-severe-burden-for-voters

That specific thing has been happening and there have been verdicts ruled as a result of it. And that's just one aspect of the concerted voter suppression by the georgia secretary of state. Not to mention violations of the 1993 voting rights act where he was purging voters simply for the act of not voting, which is specifically prohibited in the law.

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4 minutes ago, AtticusFinch said:

I find this claim on its face bs if there is other corroborating information on the form.  I'm happy to be wrong and condemn the act if true but a lot of these claims are made for political purposes.   I've worked for a city.  BS claims are made for political  purposes all the time.  More often than not, they are not legitimate.  

I wonder how you missed all the stories, court rulings, and other evidence that exactly this is happening. A true mystery.

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4 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

I wonder how you missed all the stories, court rulings, and other evidence that exactly this is happening. A true mystery.

Because I dont give a shit about the election and I'm not reading about it.  I've been down this road.  Just because a lawsuit is filed, doesnt make it legitimate.  Its tiring and full of exaggerations and misinformation.   I'll read about it when the facts are sorted.  I have other priorities. 

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19 minutes ago, AtticusFinch said:

Because I dont give a shit about the election and I'm not reading about it.  I've been down this road.  Just because a lawsuit is filed, doesnt make it legitimate.  Its tiring and full of exaggerations and misinformation.   I'll read about it when the facts are sorted.  I have other priorities. 

Yet, you find the time to post here,  about things which you are admittedly uniformed.  Interesting.

1 hour ago, Voldemort86 said:

Thanks for this.  This thread isn’t over until everything is called I’d assume. I thought New Mexico 2 was called last night?  New York Times has it marked as an official flip.

Mimi won her last race by 17 points.  She must be shitting bricks right now. 

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Mimi won her last race by 17 points.  She must be shitting bricks right now. 

It depends on the composition of these late VBM ballots.  I think the deadline for them to arrive is Friday?

Also, we get an update on AZ SEN today around 7ET I believe.  I think McSally is scurred, that's why they're trying to stop getting votes counted.

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Just because something shows up on salon.com doesn't make it true

What fits your criteria? I don't think anyone would argue against the idea that Salon has a liberal editorial slant but they also don't outright report lies ala Breitbart.

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What fits your criteria? I don't think anyone would argue against the idea that Salon has a liberal editorial slant but they also don't outright report lies ala Breitbart.
 

It's pretty common among right-wingers (and I'll readily admit I was guilty of this in the Bernie-craze too) to think that because their dogshit editorials only put out horse shit, then all dogshit editorials only put out horseshit. Buzzfeed puts out 99% garbage, BUT, they do occasionally publish well-researched journalism and that ISN'T bullshit. They don't see the distinction between journalistic reporting and editorializing, and are either unwilling or incapable of seeing the difference.

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1 hour ago, AtticusFinch said:

Because I dont give a shit about the election and I'm not reading about it.  I've been down this road.  Just because a lawsuit is filed, doesnt make it legitimate.  Its tiring and full of exaggerations and misinformation.   I'll read about it when the facts are sorted.  I have other priorities. 

What about when a judge finds that Kemp was doing exactly that and rules to prohibit it?

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1 hour ago, AtticusFinch said:

Because I dont give a shit about the election and I'm not reading about it.  I've been down this road.  Just because a lawsuit is filed, doesnt make it legitimate.  Its tiring and full of exaggerations and misinformation.   I'll read about it when the facts are sorted.  I have other priorities. 

So to sum up:

You intentionally avoid reading the news or in any way attempting to obtain information, then use the fact you haven't seen any information to argue that the information must not exist but you'll be willing to admit you're wrong when you see the information that you refuse to pursue.

Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.

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9 minutes ago, NowThis said:

what is the difference between the 3 types?

Conditional are usually people who were not on the voter roster, were provided a mail ballot but are choosing to vote in person, name change, moved, or don't have sufficient ID when they showed up (like they forgot their DL or something).  This differs from provisional ballots, which tend to be members of a native Tribe who cannot provide the proper identification at the time of voting (like DL or passport) but can present proof of tribal identification.  Conditional requires them to bring proper ID within 5 business days of the election to be counted.  Provisional does not.

Early ballots were - almost exclusively - people who had ballots mailed to them and personally dropped them off on Election Day instead of mailing them back in.

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California Republicans lost two House seats in Tuesday’s midterm election and could surrender more as tens of thousands of ballots are counted in four other contests that remain too close to call.

The party has an exceedingly small chance of holding the seats of Reps. Dana Rohrabacher and Jeff Denham, historical voting patterns suggest. Two other Republicans, Rep. Mimi Walters and Young Kim of Fullerton, hold thin leads over their opponents that could also vanish.

 

The reason is simple: Early voters, often older white Californians who start mailing in their ballots weeks before election day, lean Republican, and later voters, many of them young and minority, tend to prefer Democrats.

With extremely rare exceptions, close races in California shift in Democrats’ favor — typically by 2 percentage points— as the later ballots are counted, according to Political Data, a firm that tracks voter trends.

 

“This is as dependable as the tides,” said Paul Mitchell, the firm’s vice president.

A huge share of the ballots — perhaps 40% — remain uncounted, largely due to Californians’ increasing preference to vote by mail. By law, ballots postmarked by election day and received by Friday must be tabulated.

“For voters, the race is over,” said state Republican Chairman Jim Brulte. “For us, it isn’t.”

Both major parties were assembling squads of lawyers and volunteers Wednesday to dispatch to county registrars’ offices to monitor the post-election ballot counts.

“Florida may have popularized the term ‘hanging chad,’ but ballot integrity has been done by major political parties for a very long time,” Brulte said, alluding to dangling paper fragments from punch-card ballots. “The election is not over until all the votes that are legally cast are counted.”

For Republicans, the drift of votes toward Democrats as the tally unfolds can be grim. The day after an election, Republican candidates locked in a nearly tied race must evaluate not whether they can pull ahead, but whether they have a big enough buffer to sustain Democrats’ inevitable gains.

That cold calculation led GOP Rep. Steve Knight to concede defeat Wednesday to Democrat Katie Hill in the 25th Congressional District, a longtime Republican stronghold that includes Simi Valley, Santa Clarita and the Antelope Valley.

“The voters have spoken, and they want a new congressman — or congresswoman — for this district,” Knight told KCBS-TV. “We wish her the best.”

Another former conservative bastion, the coastal 49th Congressional District in southern Orange and northern San Diego counties, turned blue on Tuesday as Democrat Mike Levin, an environmental lawyer, won the seat of retiring GOP Rep. Darrell Issa.

If Rohrabacher loses in Orange County’s 48th Congressional District and Denham cedes San Joaquin Valley’s 10th, Republicans would be left with just 10 of the state’s 53 seats in the House, a fresh sign of the party’s steep decline as California’s population has diversified since the 1990s.

Republicans’ nightmare scenario for the midterm would be the ouster of Walters in the 45th Congressional District, which covers Irvine, Mission Viejo and Rancho Santa Margarita, and a defeat for Kim in the 39th, which includes Yorba Linda, Hacienda Heights and Fullerton.

If Rohrabacher, Walters and Kim all lose, it would mark the first time since the 1930s that Republicans have no one from Orange County in Congress.

On Wednesday, Walters was leading Democrat Katie Porter, 52% to 48%, and Kim, a former state Assembly member, was ahead of Democrat Gil Cisneros, 51% to 49%.

Both Walters and Kim are bracing for cliff-hangers. Their margins on Wednesday — more than 6,200 votes for Walters and nearly 3,900 for Kim — could disappear within days.

Election officers in California’s 58 counties must report their final vote counts to the secretary of state by Dec. 7. The state will certify the election results a week after that.

California’s slow vote count can be anti-climactic after a frenetic campaign.

In 2010, Republican Steve Cooley led Democrat Kamala Harris in the election-night tally for state attorney general, but she pulled ahead 10 days later. In the end, it took 23 days of counting before Cooley conceded. Harris won by fewer than 75,000 votes out of 9.6 million cast.

Two years ago, it took three weeks to confirm Issa’s reelection to a ninth term. His victory margin was 1,621 votes.

“We’d rather get it right than get it fast,” said Secretary of State Alex Padilla, a Democrat who coasted to reelection on Tuesday. “And the policies in place are built on our commitment to preserve the voting rights of every Californian.”

 

Statewide, 7.3 million ballots were counted on Tuesday night and Wednesday morning, but counties are expected to report as many as 4 million more in the days ahead.

The bulk of the election-night results come from votes cast in person at polling stations or by ballots that arrived by mail before Nov. 6.

The ballots counted later come from a variety of sources. Some are mail ballots that voters dropped off at polling places on election day. Some met the deadline for the Tuesday postmark, and will roll in by Friday.

Now that California has same-day registration, known as “conditional” voting, yet another group of uncounted ballots comes from people whose eligibility needs to be verified. Eligibility also has to be checked for voters who cast provisional ballots — those who show up at the wrong polling station, for instance, but whose votes are still valid.

 

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There were at least a dozen people I saw posting in r/Atlanta saying the requested an absentee ballot but were never sent one. I'm sure a lot of them just cast ballots in person, but it was very troubling to see how badly that process was handled, maybe intentionally so.

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1 hour ago, Gil Bang said:

Little Marco is crying like the little bitch that he is.  Tweeting that the evil dems are trying to steal florida. 

He’s such a little pussy. I remember during his crazy presidential run he said over and over that he won’t be going back to his senate seat. He let the people down when he did go back.

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12 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

Again, Nelson has a very good case and could pull this out..... Gillum may get a machine recount but his case is a Hail Mary.

 

As a voter in Broward I will say this...  I filled in my ballot and then took it to the machine that reads and casts the ballot (its multiple pages front and back).  Each page took 2-3 times to scan (like a stripper dollar in a coke machine).   At one point I couldn't get one of the pages to go through and the election "helper" walks over and says "oh you left some blank, do you want me to cast it anyway?"  I told him i didn't leave any blank and he looked it over and put into the machine 3 more times till it magically  "went through" ...   Not very convincing at the time and certainly now it seems fishy as hell (not in the vote stealing way, just in the shitty vote process that Florida is known for way)   /csb

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8 minutes ago, Loco said:

As a voter in Broward I will say this...  I filled in my ballot and then took it to the machine that reads and casts the ballot (its multiple pages front and back).  Each page took 2-3 times to scan (like a stripper dollar in a coke machine).   At one point I couldn't get one of the pages to go through and the election "helper" walks over and says "oh you left some blank, do you want me to cast it anyway?"  I told him i didn't leave any blank and he looked it over and put into the machine 3 more times till it magically  "went through" ...   Not very convincing at the time and certainly now it seems fishy as hell (not in the vote stealing way, just in the shitty vote process that Florida is known for way)   /csb

Great info.... is it fucking scantron?  WTF is Florida doing?  Why are they always.... always a fucking problem with voting.  

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