2018 midterm gameday thread

[Gengs1 2583]

9 minutes ago, Ghost of Shag said:

I don't see what's so outrageous about calling him a good man.  I've known him for thirteen years.  We've worked together, socialized together...he's a good guy.

But you'd all rather assume he's a bastard because he's a Republican, and that if there's voter fraud, it must obviously because of the Republicans. 

Fuck yourselves.  You'll get six more years of Trump and like it.  

So again, he is a good guy because he socialized with you?

how do we know the guy he lost to isn’t a good guy? 

So what happens if he lost to another good guy? Is that a wash?

since you went there, is trump also a good guy?

Edited November 9, 2018 by Gengs1

[Js1 85085]

5 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

McSally cut into the lead by 447 but the update was a net +11 for Sinema? I'm assuming that's percentage points, not votes?

McSally cut into the lead by 447 votes.

Cochise was +22R overall but the batch today was +11R.  Meaning these outstanding votes that are counting late are more Democrat friendly.  Which is what *I* and a few others figured, because late VBM ballots were trending more Democrat friendly.  These late batches are more Sinema friendly (otherwise, McSally should have netted ~850 or so votes).

It appears Cochise went from +22R to +21R with the new batch. 

Edited November 9, 2018 by Js1

[Dahobbs 17420]

8 minutes ago, Ghost of Shag said:

I don't see what's so outrageous about calling him a good man.  I've known him for thirteen years.  We've worked together, socialized together...he's a good guy.

But you'd all rather assume he's a bastard because he's a Republican, and that if there's voter fraud, it must obviously because of the Republicans. 

Fuck yourselves.  You'll get six more years of Trump and like it.  

His being a good man is completely irrelevant. Why should it affect whether votes get counted?

[Francisco 2.0 32312]

1 minute ago, Gengs1 said:

So again, he is a good guy because he socialized with you?

how do we know the guy he lost to isn’t a good guy? 

So what happens if he lost to another good guy? Is that a wash?

Well, his opponent is a woman.

That's probably a lot to do with this.

[Ghost of Shag 2577]

1 minute ago, Gengs1 said:

So again, he is a good guy because he socialized with you?

how do we know the guy he lost to isn’t a good guy? 

So what happens if he lost to another good guy? Is that a wash?

since you went there, is trump also a good guy?

The lady he lost to may be a great lady.  Don't know.  

If he loses to her, he loses to her.  

Trump is an ass.  

[Huckleberry 32694]

Just now, Ghost of Shag said:

Half the responses on here are mocking the fact that I called him a good man.  Are we that cynical?  If you said you knew someone personally and he's a good guy, I'd take your word for it.  Why would you lie about it?  Perhaps I'm too trusting, but that's my nature.  

Broward County is crucial to any democrat winning in Florida.  Of the votes they're counting on, that area is a necessity.  The leaders in that county know it.  Everyone knows it. 

So how the hell do they wind up with a 60,000 ballots that suddenly "weren't counted?  

Miami-Dade die 810,000 ballots in four hours.  

Broward did 700,000...and they're still doing them.  And still finding them.  

So are we dealing with absolute incompetence, or are we dealing with fraud?  

 

They were not mocking the fact that you called him a good man, they were pointing out that how good he is has absolutely zero to do with counting votes. You were being emotionally defensive because you consider the guy a friend. You completely misinterpreted several posts accordingly.

I have no idea what we're dealing with, but I am asking for evidence of fraud. I completely believe in the incompetence of government, it's one of my most faithful beliefs. So do Republicans for the most part, in fact I constantly hear about how incompetent liberal government is. So the answer to your question is we have no idea what we're dealing with, so let's see the evidence. If the only evidence is that the votes are coming from a part of the state that votes for your friend's opponent, well that's not actually evidence.

[Js1 85085]

6 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Cochise County just updated the majority of their outstanding votes - 4,021 out of about 4,700.  McSally only cuts into Sinema's lead by 447.  Pre-update, Cochise was +22 for McSally.  This batch was only +11R.  Woof.  This was supposedly one of her good counties but the late votes are more D-leaning than the overall county vote.

My calculation would have had her cutting ~865 votes off McSally's lead based on the percentage she had pre-update.  She underperformed that by half.

Updated to be worded better.

Edited November 9, 2018 by Js1

[Ghost of Shag 2577]

Just now, Francisco 2.0 said:

Well, his opponent is a woman.

That's probably a lot to do with this.

Yeah, I must be sexist too.  Surprised it took this long for someone to assert that.  

[Francisco 2.0 32312]

Ladies and gentlemen, here is the good guy:

 

And his opponent:

 

[Gengs1 2583]

1 minute ago, Ghost of Shag said:

The lady he lost to may be a great lady.  Don't know.  

If he loses to her, he loses to her.  

Trump is an ass.  

So if he lost to a good lady, is that overall bad? Since both of them are good guy/lady? 

[Loco 3752]

5 minutes ago, Ghost of Shag said:

I don't see what's so outrageous about calling him a good man.  I've known him for thirteen years.  We've worked together, socialized together...he's a good guy.

But you'd all rather assume he's a bastard because he's a Republican, and that if there's voter fraud, it must obviously because of the Republicans. 

Fuck yourselves.  You'll get six more years of Trump and like it.  

1) I don't assume he is a bastard because he's a Republican, I assume he's a bastard based on your description of his thoughts on democracy

2) If your friend doesn't want legitimate votes counted that is unamerican and contrary to being a "good man"

3) You & your friend are trying to shortcut a full accounting of votes because and only because he is ahead (I know, I know "Both Sides" - I agree)  See #2

4) By law the unofficial tally of votes is not due until tomorrow...  Yeah I want it final too, but I'll wait to make sure they got it right.

5) You're wrong, I would not enjoy six more years of Trump

['stache 21744]

Just now, Francisco 2.0 said:

Ladies and gentlemen, here is the good guy:

 

And his opponent:

 

A woman?  No way a woman can win without fraud!!!!!!

[Pancho 44434]

15 minutes ago, Ghost of Shag said:

I don't see what's so outrageous about calling him a good man.  I've known him for thirteen years.  We've worked together, socialized together...he's a good guy.

But you'd all rather assume he's a bastard because he's a Republican, and that if there's voter fraud, it must obviously because of the Republicans. 

Fuck yourselves.  You'll get six more years of Trump and like it.  

Voter fraud isn't a real thing.  Voter suppression is. 

And fuck you too. 

[Js1 85085]

9 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

McSally cut into the lead by 447 but the update was a net +11 for Sinema? I'm assuming that's percentage points, not votes?

I also wanted to point out that, for instance, Pima was overall +14D but the late batch counted last night was +20D.  So I'm not seeing how McSally is confident these late batches are friendly for her. 

If these batches are 150% better for the Democrat than the overall county votes D/R breakdown, my initial claim of Sinema picking up 15,000 or so+ today could be way low.

Edited November 9, 2018 by Js1

[Ghost of Shag 2577]

2 minutes ago, Loco said:

1) I don't assume he is a bastard because he's a Republican, I assume he's a bastard based on your description of his thoughts on democracy

2) If your friend doesn't want legitimate votes counted that is unamerican and contrary to being a "good man"

3) You & your friend are trying to shortcut a full accounting of votes because and only because he is ahead (I know, I know "Both Sides" - I agree)  See #2

4) By law the unofficial tally of votes is not due until tomorrow...  Yeah I want it final too, but I'll wait to make sure they got it right.

5) You're wrong, I would not enjoy six more years of Trump

1) Where did I once describe his thoughts? 

2) Where did I say he doesn't want legitimate votes counted? 

3) You have no idea whether there has been a full accounting of votes or not.  You just assume there hasn't been.

4) Incompetence in Broward county goes all the way back to 2000.  Surprising that they can't get their act together, except when things go their way?

5) Neither would I.

[Fudge Nuggets 19144]

5 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Ladies and gentlemen, here is the good guy:

 

And his opponent:

 

Was he king of homecoming court this year?

[Disco Strangler 1865]

5 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Ladies and gentlemen, here is the good guy:

 

And his opponent:

 

Good man?  More like BEST MAN. . . . At Joe Dirt's wedding.  Nice boutonniere.  

[HenryJames 65884]

7 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Ladies and gentlemen, here is the good guy:

 

And his opponent:

 

Well of course he lost to Lisa Ann.

[Loco 3752]

2 minutes ago, Ghost of Shag said:

1) Where did I once describe his thoughts? 

2) Where did I say he doesn't want legitimate votes counted? 

3) You have no idea whether there has been a full accounting of votes or not.  You just assume there hasn't been.

4) Incompetence in Broward county goes all the way back to 2000.  Surprising that they can't get their act together, except when things go their way?

5) Neither would I.

Ok ok maybe I miss judged him (and perhaps you)

Does he want the vote counting stopped before it is complete or certified by the elected officials of Broward County? 

• If yes, nevermind, I got it right the first time
• If no,  STFU and wait like a good little citizen for the results without sewing the seeds of unfounded doubt

I got news for you incompetence in Broward goes all the way back to Frank & Ivy Stranahan.   Voter fraud does not go back at all...  doesn't exist in any meaningful way.

 

[Fozzz 152]

This guy seems like he sucks.

Quote

Caldwell laughed when Florida Politics asked if that comparison was valid.

“I do think that socialism is a dead end street,” Caldwell said. “While I don’t think that Andrew Gillum would like to see empty store shelves and people starve in the street, that is ultimately what it comes to. It works against human nature. Everytime we’ve seen it tried, it failed.”

Caldwell described Gillum endorser Sen. Bernie Sanders as “an avowed socialist” dedicated to a “European socialist model” with Gillum having “embraced it wholeheartedly.”

Caldwell definitely sees the battle between R and D this year as a ticket, and he defended his party’s standard bearer, Ron DeSantis, who has been mired in controversy that began with his warnings after the primary that electing Gillum would “monkey this up.”

DeSantis is “not a racist,” Caldwell said.

“That’s manufactured controversy for the sake of a political campaign,” Caldwell said, with the left looking to “make hay” of it.

https://www.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs/archives/2018/10/22/florida-agriculture-commissioner-candidates-face-off-over-medical-marijuana-water

There is no arguing whether DeSantis is a racist.  You can't pal around with Horowitz and pretend not to be one. 

[Ghost of Shag 2577]

6 minutes ago, Loco said:

Ok ok maybe I miss judged him (and perhaps you)

Does he want the vote counting stopped before it is complete or certified by the elected officials of Broward County? 

• If yes, nevermind, I got it right the first time
• If no,  STFU and wait like a good little citizen for the results without sewing the seeds of unfounded doubt

I got news for you incompetence in Broward goes all the way back to Frank & Ivy Stranahan.   Voter fraud does not go back at all...  doesn't exist in any meaningful way.

 



I'm quite confident he wants every vote to count.  

But I find it highly questionable and somewhat amusing that all these "legitimate, uncounted, suppressed" votes come out of highly Democratic areas.  

Especially, and comically, Broward County.  

[Hiphopopotamos 20865]

1 minute ago, Ghost of Shag said:

I'm quite confident he wants every vote to count.  

But I find it highly questionable and somewhat amusing that all these "legitimate, uncounted, suppressed" votes come out of highly Democratic areas.  

Especially, and comically, Broward County.  

You find it 'highly questionable' that suppressed votes would be in a highly democratic county in a Republican run state?

[Francisco 2.0 32312]

 

[Loco 3752]

4 minutes ago, Ghost of Shag said:

I'm quite confident he wants every vote to count.  

But I find it highly questionable and somewhat amusing that all these "legitimate, uncounted, suppressed" votes come out of highly Democratic areas.  

Especially, and comically, Broward County.  

In what logical way is it that "highly Democratic areas" shouldn't produce "highly democratic" voting results?

Suspect indeed!

Edited November 9, 2018 by Loco

[Fozzz 152]

Really weird that large, populous counties often take the longest to count their votes.  I can't think of any reason why that would be the case...besides FRAUD.

[Longhornmaniac8 255]

I'm quite confident he wants every vote to count.  
But I find it highly questionable and somewhat amusing that all these "legitimate, uncounted, suppressed" votes come out of highly Democratic areas.  
Especially, and comically, Broward County.  

So you just want it to be true that there's voter fraud. You don't have any actual evidence.

This is why we're mocking you. You're insinuating something and completely devoid of any, tiny morsel of evidence.

As said previously, no one here is mocking your friend. We're mocking your emotional and petulant response to what's going on.

Get out of your echo chamber and read actual news about why this is taking so long. It's not that complicated.

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[lemonlime 5503]

3 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

You find it 'highly questionable' that suppressed votes would be in a highly democratic county in a Republican run state?

Also a state that purged over 7% of voters in the past 2 years.  

['stache 21744]

2 minutes ago, Longhornmaniac8 said:

So you just want it to be true that there's voter fraud. You don't have any actual evidence.

This is why we're mocking you. You're insinuating something and completely devoid of any, tiny morsel of evidence.

As said previously, no one here is mocking your friend. We're mocking your emotional and petulant response to what's going on.

Get out of your echo chamber and read actual news about why this is taking so long. It's not that complicated.

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They're democrat votes.  What more proof do you need!!!!

[Hank Scorpio 17721]

42 minutes ago, Ghost of Shag said:

I don't see what's so outrageous about calling him a good man.  I've known him for thirteen years.  We've worked together, socialized together...he's a good guy.

But you'd all rather assume he's a bastard because he's a Republican, and that if there's voter fraud, it must obviously because of the Republicans. 

Fuck yourselves.  You'll get six more years of Trump and like it.  

People like this are my favorite. They believe all the hateful, stupid shit that most Republicans do, but they try and put this veneer on it where they are reasonable and aren't a Trumpkin. Then about 10 posts later the true colors come out and they reveal themselves to be just another raving mouth-breathing lunatic eating leaves out of a MAGA hat. 

[Voldemort86 2259]

36 minutes ago, Ghost of Shag said:

Half the responses on here are mocking the fact that I called him a good man.  Are we that cynical?  If you said you knew someone personally and he's a good guy, I'd take your word for it.  Why would you lie about it?  Perhaps I'm too trusting, but that's my nature.  

Broward County is crucial to any democrat winning in Florida.  Of the votes they're counting on, that area is a necessity.  The leaders in that county know it.  Everyone knows it. 

So how the hell do they wind up with a 60,000 ballots that suddenly "weren't counted?"

Miami-Dade did 810,000 ballots in four hours just fine.   

Broward did 700,000...and they're still doing them.  And still finding them.  

So are we dealing with absolute incompetence, or are we dealing with fraud?  

 

All of the democrats will say or think that this is incompetence and all of the votes should be counted

all of the republicans will say that this is fraud, the election is over, they’re trying to steal it!

historical precedence points toward incompetence tho. Does anyone still remember the election of 2000?

[Js1 85085]

2000?

Doesn't ring a bell.

Was it like, important or something?

[Ghost of Shag 2577]

5 minutes ago, Hank Scorpio said:

People like this are my favorite. They believe all the hateful, stupid shit that most Republicans do, but they try and put this veneer on it where they are reasonable and aren't a Trumpkin. Then about 10 posts later the true colors come out and they reveal themselves to be just another raving mouth-breathing lunatic eating leaves out of a MAGA hat. 

Can't stand Trump.  He's a disgrace to the office.  You can say I believe all the "hateful, stupid shit that most Republicans do" without knowing me and perfectly well convince yourself of it.  But your rush to paint me with the same brush you would any other person who holds conservative values says far more about your blindness than it does mine. 

But I'm glad I'm your favorite.  

Edited November 9, 2018 by Ghost of Shag

[Bama Chick 28596]

Can a ghost be murdered?

Cause y’all killed this dude. Yikes.

[Loco 3752]

Oooooo they're angry enough to go to Lauderhill...  That's a tall ask for some white folks.   I hope they stop by Charlies and get a patty, got damn, now I want one!

[Francisco 2.0 32312]

3 minutes ago, Loco said:

 

Oooooo they're angry enough to go to Lauderhill...  That's a tall ask for some white folks.   I hope they stop by Charlies and get a patty, got damn, now I want one!

 On the bolded:  Enlighten us mouth-breathers, please.

 

Edit.  On the underlined:  The sun is out.  

 

 

Edited November 9, 2018 by Francisco 2.0

[Patrick Bateman 3903]

48 minutes ago, Ghost of Shag said:

I don't see what's so outrageous about calling him a good man.  I've known him for thirteen years.  We've worked together, socialized together...he's a good guy.

But you'd all rather assume he's a bastard because he's a Republican, and that if there's voter fraud, it must obviously because of the Republicans. 

Fuck yourselves.  You'll get six more years of Trump and like it.  

We have no reason to dispute if you're friend is a good man, but it's inconsequential to the point at hand and it undermines your point as you look quite subjective on the matter.  From your emotional retorts, it seems you think something nefarious went on but you have offered no proof nor evidence other than your suspicions.  Quite simply, it comes down to this:

Those votes could be absolutely legitimate and your state and Broward county can absolutely be incompetent when it comes to elections.

[Loco 3752]

7 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Enlighten us mouth-breathers, please.

 

 

Jamaican patty place...  Patties don't look like much, but it's a greasy deep fried meat patty.  Get yourself a Champagne Cola or a Ting and heartburn is right around the corner.

Most of the real ethnic places in Broward are along the 441 corridor.  I believe Snipes' office is a stone throw from Charlies.  Often I'm the only white guy in line.

Spoiler

 

 

 

 

Edited November 9, 2018 by Loco

[Fozzz 152]

That's a tasty looking patty. 

[Pancho 44434]

15 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

Can a ghost be murdered?

Cause y’all killed this dude. Yikes.

he dead.

[Loco 3752]

3 minutes ago, Fozzz said:

That's a tasty looking patty. 

I prefer Charlies.  I think you can get them in grocery store ethnic frozen section. (not the same IMHO)  Some people prefer Golden Flake, but they're just wrong.  (sorry for the derail)

[AtticusFinch 155]

On 11/8/2018 at 9:32 AM, AtticusFinch said:

I find this claim on its face bs if there is other corroborating information on the form.  I'm happy to be wrong and condemn the act if true but a lot of these claims are made for political purposes.   I've worked for a city.  BS claims are made for political  purposes all the time.  More often than not, they are not legitimate.  

I get negged for posting an honest assessment.  Sad

Edited November 9, 2018 by AtticusFinch

[Celery Man 20881]

I get negged for posting an honest assessment.  Sad

Take it as a compliment that people assume you are dishonest rather than stupid.

[Js1 85085]

Call it a landslide, y'all -

Jon Tester, in his 3rd try, finally cracked 50%+1. All precincts reporting, he's at 50.1%.  Previous wins were both 49%

[AtticusFinch 155]

1 minute ago, Celery Man said:

 

Take it as a compliment that people assume you are dishonest rather than stupid.

 

It's a clown show in here.  

[Loco 3752]

3 minutes ago, AtticusFinch said:

It's a clown show in here.  

Like it's not else where in politics?  Maybe don't worry about the rep so much, you can't cash it in, and who really gives a fuck?

[BrickHorn 18185]

38 minutes ago, Ghost of Shag said:

Can't stand Trump.  He's a disgrace to the office.  You can say I believe all the "hateful, stupid shit that most Republicans do" without knowing me and perfectly well convince yourself of it.  But your rush to paint me with the same brush you would any other person who holds conservative values says far more about your blindness than it does mine. 

But I'm glad I'm your favorite.  

You basically argued it was unfair that your friend lost an election because he is a nice guy and was winning by one run in the 4th inning. That’s a dumb take, whether or not you’re a never-Trumper.

[Dahobbs 17420]

13 minutes ago, AtticusFinch said:

It's a clown show in here.  

And we all thank you for wearing the red nose and the big shoes. 

[AtticusFinch 155]

1 minute ago, Dahobbs said:

And we all thank you for wearing the red nose and the big shoes. 

That was actually clever.  Congrats on not calling me a nazi or racist

Edited November 9, 2018 by AtticusFinch

[Huckleberry 32694]

2 minutes ago, AtticusFinch said:

That was actually clever.  Congrats on not calling me a nazi or racist

Have you been called a nazi or a racist?

You got negged (not by me) because you made a terrible post. You came in and declared that you intentionally don't look for information but you believe what you believe but you're willing to change your mind if you see some information that you intentionally try to avoid. It was a terrible post revealing a terrible mindset. Suck it up, buttercup.

[Js1 85085]

Pinal will post an update today (25k early and 6800 provisional left)

-- IF Pinal held to current breakdown (55.8R, 41.6D) -> McSally picks up about 4400 votes, but still will trail by 5,000 votes.

Pima won't do an update until maybe Tuesday (WTF) - they're going to be counting all weekend apparently

Maricopa should do an update today.  This is not just more liberal Phoenix, but also Tempe.

Coconino has 10k ballots and that's Flagstaff.

Depending on what gets reported today, if McSally falls further behind, Pima won't save her.  It's Tucson/University of Arizona and its 55-42 Sinema.

Edited November 9, 2018 by Js1