Major Applewhite Gets into Heated Exchange with DT Ed Oliver

[Vic Mackey 46927]

 

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Houston defensive tackle Ed Oliver, an All-America talent in his third year as one of the best players int he sport, missed his fourth straight game on Thursday night, warming up but sitting out as the Cougars took on Tulane at home. 

Oliver, sporting team-issued sweats on the sideline, put on one of the oversized, heavier coats provided for the players during the first half of the game, as the temperature dipped into the low 50s. He was approached by head coach Major Applewhite, who told Oliver he had to remove the heavy coat because he was not dressed out to play with everyone else, according to ESPN's Laura Rutledge. 

At the end of the first half, ESPN's cameras caught Oliver being restrained as he and Applewhite shared a testy walk to the locker room. Oliver did not return to the sideline after halftime, though Applewhite indicated that he was welcome to.  

 

 

 

[taybo20 2815]

Something about more coaching and less yelling I think

[WhatTheBuck 28703]

More Laura Rutledge. 

[Junior Miller 1502]

Opie pissed because Oliver is sandbagging his last month as a college player to stay healthy for the draft?

[taybo20 2815]

Double

Edited November 16, 2018 by taybo20

[Disco Missile 456]

I guess he just really wants to wear that jacket

[MrBig 5281]

This seems like his way of telling the shitty cold weather teams not to draft him. Those brisk 50 degree nights require extra warmth. He must have his eye on joining the Raiders.

[RPM 26208]

2 hours ago, Disco Missile said:

I guess he just really wants to wear that jacket

It was nippy.

[clapclapclap 9000]

I bet he transfers to the Yellow Jackets.

[BossHawg 13]

3 hours ago, Junior Miller said:

Opie pissed because Oliver is sandbagging his last month as a college player to stay healthy for the draft?

High probability some of this is going on behind the scenes.

[Bevo 13516]

4 hours ago, Junior Miller said:

Opie pissed because Oliver is sandbagging his last month as a college player to stay healthy for the draft?

If it really is ME-team, shouldn't he just sit up in the stands like the other students?

[SHOOTER12 8787]

When I got up this morning that is the exact thing they were showing on television. Not a good look for anyone there very awkward.

[horn_of_the_morning 978]

Supposedly has bruised knee. But was having fun before the game jumping around and catching and throwing the balls dressed in his red velvet jump suit before the game. Not a good look for him imo not that any of this will impact his NFL stock

 

 

[South Austin 52105]

Ed Oliver should hook up with a student trainer.

[deadshank 24651]

Somehow this is a win for aggy.

Checkmate, sips. 

[SwanderedTalent 5761]

OIiver has always kind of reminded me of Albert Haynesworth

[El Diablo 4232]

24 minutes ago, SwanderedTalent said:

OIiver has always kind of reminded me of Albert Haynesworth

Better than Johnny Jolly Rancher.

[DejaVu 39]

Temperatures were in the 50s. How big of a pussy is Oliver if he needs to throw a fit over not getting a big coat? 

[markstanco 12501]

He was approached by head coach Major Applewhite, who told Oliver he had to remove the heavy coat because he was not dressed out to play with everyone else,

Pick your battles dumbass.

[MNLonghornFUKM 8799]

Ed Oliver when that first leaf drop like

 

[rungeflash 322]

Now that's some next level coaching.....miss olivia hasn't shown that much fire all season

 

 

[Marfa Low Crown 2544]

Just now, rungeflash said:

miss olivia hasn't shown that much fire all season

If the dude wants to sandbag for the NFL I guess that's his prerogative and if Major wants to get pissy about it that's his.
What's not okay is going after your coach on national television...or anywhere else for that matter. That was probably the
 last time we'll see Ed Oliver on the UH sideline. 

[phdhorn 6224]

[Dennis Taylor 18690]

Doesn't Major understand today's athlete? Everybody gets a trophy...and a jacket 

Edited November 16, 2018 by Dennis Taylor

[utee94 15744]

Major shouldn't have yanked at the coat.  Being pissed about Oliver's bitchassedness is fine, though.

Boot him from the team and let him spend all of his time prepping for the NFL.  He's already not contributing anything as it is.

[IDIOTsavant 8437]

11 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

This is where I sit too.

Know who would have never skipped a game in order to preserve himself for the NFL? Major. 

I think that's probably why he over reacted, which he did. I know this place is torn on him, but no matter where you sit on him as a coach know two things about him as a player. Dude was an absolute gamer and left it all on the field. He also was as hardcore a Longhorn as anyone could be.

3. He's also kind of a dick. I'm sure this played into Oliver's reaction. I think it's fine to let Ed know the heavy jackets are for keeping guys in the game warm, so they don't pull a muscle. My guess is that Major went about it in a very Major way. Fairly confident this was the basis for the altercation, not the jacket itself.

[Post Oak 20182]

35 minutes ago, utee94 said:

Major shouldn't have yanked at the coat.  Being pissed about Oliver's bitchassedness is fine, though.

Boot him from the team and let him spend all of his time prepping for the NFL.  He's already not contributing anything as it is.

This is where I come in.  I'm not defending Oliver but it looks from my vantage point that major should've handled it better.  He's the adult.  

[Junior Miller 1502]

48 minutes ago, Marfa Low Crown said:

If the dude wants to sandbag for the NFL I guess that's his prerogative and if Major wants to get pissy about it that's his.
What's not okay is going after your coach on national television...or anywhere else for that matter. That was probably the
 last time we'll see Ed Oliver on the UH sideline. 

It was poor form by Major. First of all he should have sat down with Oliver sometime before it came to this blowup and said you're either going to play because your knee is healthy enough to play or you're going to sit for the draft. If it's sit for the draft then you won't be traveling with the team and won't be on the sidelines. It's just a slap in face to the teammates that are playing that he's there jumping around on field before games and on sidelines healthy while quitting on them. 

Also, it was late 2nd quarter right before half. He should have just waited until they got in the locker room away from TV cameras then have the confrontation. 

If Opie wants to be able to recruit top guys in the future he needs to learn from this and avoid these kinds of public issues with top players. Unfortunately with the monetary model the way it is players who know they're getting drafted high just aren't going to finish out their last few games anymore going forward. Just have to deal with it better. 

[Armybrat 40710]

^^^^

Agreed, but players quitting on their team should not be allowed anywhere on the field.

I get the money/draft thing, but they are dishonorable IMO. And yeah, that includes the Horns who have bailed out on our bowl games recently. You make a commitment, you follow through on your word.

Remember when Cedric Benson was criticized for not being a team player? And I recall scores of other NFL-bound Horns over past generations who did not quit on their team.

[Hank Chinaski 6310]

Agreed, Major overreacted. I get that he may be pissed about Oliver's apparent lack of dedication to the team, but he needs to handle that more discreetly and maturely. Making him remove the jacket just makes him look petty. 

(I'm probably just still pissed at Major for hiring Briles.)

[Zavala 1384]

Already got the NFL ego and bitch ass attitude. Just cut him and let him prepare for the combine.

[Leanderman 2266]

Jacket? You don't need no stinkin jacket.

[Wally Pryor 5243]

It's too bad the fat black guy kept Oliver from Applewhite. 

[Guest Lobo]

I think they both fucked the same student GA.  

[Gene Parmesan 3993]

I'm fine if a coach wants to go scorched earth, but you can't have your cake and eat it to.  You are basically disenfranchising a generational talent and having him positively rep your University is a good thing.  Don't expect those benefits in the future.

[South Austin 52105]

Chris Simms would’ve handled this better.

[UDontKnow 10439]

2 hours ago, SwanderedTalent said:

OIiver has always kind of reminded me of Albert Haynesworth

He'll stomp on your head with cleats on?

[Tex Pete 20156]

Fuck Ed Oliver. I’m guessing he had already been arguing with the staff member who was clearly talking to him and trying to get him to take the cost off when Major walked up. It was right before halftime and Oliver could have gotten a coat in the locker room shortly after he was asked to take the coat off. 

[MadBurgerMaker 403]

Team Opie.

 

[BabaYaga 15205]

6 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

Fuck Ed Oliver. I’m guessing he had already been arguing with the staff member who was clearly talking to him and trying to get him to take the cost off when Major walked up. It was right before halftime and Oliver could have gotten a coat in the locker room shortly after he was asked to take the coat off. 

Yeah, maybe because it's Friday and I don't give a shit, but when asked Opie should very calmly and deliberately describe how much a talent Oliver is, but also how he's basically given up on his team, is a PITA to deal with, and has completely checked out on his team.  Then move on to the next question.  

[Guest]

Meh, we all had at least one ‘fuck you’ moment with parents or when the kids left the house.

[phdhorn 6224]

19 minutes ago, South Austin said:

Chris Simms would’ve handled this better.

If it's true to form, Chris Simms will just show up one day as the Houston head coach without any explanation or notice.

[AUS-97HORN 11669]

I guess I am just getting too old because I dont see anything wrong with the head coach telling his star player to follow the team rules- the rules DO apply to everyone, even the star player.

I would siding with the coach here no matter who it was, Lincoln R and Jimbo included.

 

Its the same principle a manager has to deal with when handling the best salesman, copy-writer, marketing rep, etc.  The group rules apply to everyone, even if you are a fucking star 

[MonkeyDoughnut 10138]

If it wan't Ed Oliver the player would have already been kicked off the team for that..

He didn't see too hurt when he went after Applewhite as well.

[Zavala 1384]

Must have learned how to act from those fine examples in the nfl

 

[SwanderedTalent 5761]

4 minutes ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

If it wan't Ed Oliver the player would have already been kicked off the team for that..

He didn't see too hurt when he went after Applewhite as well.

That's because he's not injured, he's just "hurt"

If the point of football is strictly, or primarily, to maximize your earnings potential, then he's doing the right thing by sitting out his semi-pro team's games at this point. 

Most fans don't look at it that way. It will be worth watching what happens to fan interest if players continue to take a primarily economic view of the game.

[TrashMaster G 17385]

Major could have handled it better (not in public), but he was 100% in the right.  Oliver is a jackass who has quit on his team.  UH should send him a bill for his fall tuition, fees, etc.

[Machinator 32097]

3 minutes ago, TrashMaster G said:

UH should send him a bill for his fall tuition, fees, etc.

Yeah, they should definitely piss off one of the greatest players to pass through the UH program in a long time. That won't have any long-term ramnifications.

[dcar00 14028]

37 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

Fuck Ed Oliver. I’m guessing he had already been arguing with the staff member who was clearly talking to him and trying to get him to take the cost off when Major walked up. It was right before halftime and Oliver could have gotten a coat in the locker room shortly after he was asked to take the coat off. 

yeah, this is all on Oliver. and yes he's an adult. the dude isn't playing and he's not injured. I can see more coaches are going to start telling guys who are "draft hurt" to just go prepare and good luck. 

My guess is Major told the assistant coach to get the coat off of him and Oliver continued to be a bitch so Major tried to make a point that he runs the team, they are his rules, and get the fucking coat off on his sideline.  He's also standing up for his assistant who is trying to tell Oliver to take the coat off. Its a stupid bitch ass thing for Oliver to do.  from what I saw, Major didn't yell at him or confront him when Oliver was barking at the half.  He just stared at him like, "this is the way you want to go out, huh".

I'm no Major sycophant but good for Major.   I'm sure neither of them give a shit about the other at this point.  Major has to coach the players that want to play.

[dcar00 14028]

5 minutes ago, Machinator said:

Yeah, they should definitely piss off one of the greatest players to pass through the UH program in a long time. That won't have any long-term ramnifications.

Ed Oliver can decide whether there is any long term ramifications.  not Major.