Cam Rising, Casey Thompson, Jerrod Heard

[Huckleberry 33064]

So let's say Ehlinger can't go on Friday. All three of the players in the subject line are available to play QB in packages because of the new redshirt rule. Whether that might be because Herman doesn't want Buechele running too much or if Buechele gets hurt during the game.

On defense the Jayhawks are much more effective running the ball, so you have to wonder if players like Ojomo and Coburn might be considered available because of the same reason. Starting with this week's game there is absolutely no chance of there being more than four games left in the season. Before the Iowa State game maybe the coaches had figured before the season that in some miracle world where we go to the CFP that there could have been four games after Iowa State. Obviously we knew before Saturday that wasn't happening but coaches can be stubborn. I am interested to see how many teams and coaches use this new rule to get young pups some playing time starting this weekend.

Considering Ehlinger's shoulder I don't see any reason these guys shouldn't have a package of maybe 5-10 plays each that they are ready to run. Not to broach a topic we don't want to think about, but it's also not like it's a statistical impossibility that Buechele and Ehlinger both get dinged up even if Ehlinger is cleared to play Friday. And yes, I included Jerrod Heard because obviously he can run in an emergency situation and with the emergence of Johnson and Humphrey this year it's not a bad idea to tell him to just throw it high and far if there's single coverage on one of those guys outside.

[SDG 3319]

Isn’t there also a Buechele to redshirt variable?

[Newy25 7703]

Considering the new redshirt rule, I would approach Friday as if every single player on our roster is available. 

We are traveling so does this limit who we can take to the game? 

[Huckleberry 33064]

The Big 12 limits football travel squads to 70, so that definitely presents an obstacle this week.

Oh wait, there's an exception for one game. 

So assuming we haven't used that exception yet we name up to 70 juniors, sophomores, and freshmen and then call all the seniors exceptions.

Edited November 19, 2018 by Huckleberry

[ShaggyBevo RIP 3868]

Big 12 limits travel squad to 70 guys. You can designated one game a year that all players in their last year of eligibility can travel to. 

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[LTtxfan 49329]

4 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

The Big 12 limits football travel squads to 70, so that definitely presents an obstacle this week.

Oh wait, there's an exception for one game. 

So assuming we haven't used that exception yet we name up to 70 juniors, sophomores, and freshmen and then call all the seniors exceptions.

Are B12 CCG and a bowl game also subject to 70 player travel limit?

[ShaggyBevo RIP 3868]

^^^

CCG allows you to take everyone on the school's dime but only 70 can dress out.  I find nothing on bowl games.

Edited November 19, 2018 by ShaggyBevo RIP

[ClubWhatever 12154]

What did the coaches do during the off week after Baylor?  I seem to remember Rising got some 2nd team reps and Heard had a package.  I would think Rising could and would be trusted with more plays since he played in the Spring Game and got those reps after Baylor.

[taybo20 2878]

And yet 2 of the players listed have never seen the field. 

I hate the idea of Flipping between 4 different qbs just because the redshirt rules allow us to do that. 

[Huckleberry 33064]

Nobody said flipping between them, dude. Read the post.

[Dennis Taylor 18851]

wildcat package with LJH throwing jump passes to Colin all the way down the field...unstoppable   

[Matagorda 118]

If game gets out of hand, its a thought.  But its also good to get your first team quality practice reps as well.  

Id think DLine would benenfit from a fresh legs rotation.  Just depends on how big a drop off there is.  (Is a tired Chris Nelson better than a fresh Christmas-giles?). 

Edited November 19, 2018 by Matagorda

[taybo20 2878]

Read the post. Yeah if Sam can’t go and Shane can’t go, of course 1 of those guys will play. That kinda goes without saying. And at that point, the plays will be whatever that guy runs best. 

Also you did lead with “all 3 are available to play in packages”...dude

Edited November 19, 2018 by taybo20

[po elvis 2076]

13 minutes ago, Matagorda said:

If game gets out of hand, its a thought.  But its also good to get your first team quality practice reps as well.  

when you say if the game gets out of hand you mean if we are losing right? we absolutely should be prepared to insert Rising in if Buechele is struggling. a mobile qb can really jump start an offense.

[Matagorda 118]

Of course, but dammit Ive tried to block that very real possibility out of my mind.

 Frankly, based on our lack of seeing Rising play has me thinking Boo has no intention of transferring.  And if thats the case, the QB room is going to be awfully crowded and it might be good to get Cam some playing time to keep him motivated.  

[LongestHorn 759]

 

[Murfdogg21 4423]

If we’re up by 21+ or down by 21+, the RS players should get some snaps. They probably aren’t playing in the BigXII CCG or bowl game, and they’ve got 4 games to burn snaps as backups or on special teams. 

[Huckleberry 33064]

11 minutes ago, LongestHorn said:

 

This is exactly my point. Does anyone want Buechele as our QB run threat in a goal line situation this week?

[Mikey4 2476]

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[Whatever 700]

I wouldn't mind seeing LJH taking snaps in goal line situations since he's bigger and has done it in game situations already this season.  Jump passes (as mentioned up the thread) and other wrinkles like WR screens are good PA options out of the formation.  The fact that he's already completed a few passes this season helps IMO.  It also helps that Heard can play the slot like he did against Tech.

Edited November 19, 2018 by Whatever
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[Laga4 1270]

I just hope we are up so much at halftime we play errbody in the 2nd half. 

[Helobious 9464]

I mean it is Kansas. They suck and I have long heard that Beaty wasn’t all that popular with the team, I really don’t think they’ll put up much of a fight for him on Friday. 

If Buechele gets hurt, just get a walk on to hand it off to Ingram/Watson/Young/Carter the entire game. Should be more than enough to get the W.

[FloridaHorn 4769]

the only way that Thompson, Rising, or Heard should or will play QB, is if Sam can't go and Shane gets injured. Shane has earned the right for this to be his game, if Sam is unable to play. If Sam can play, then Sam should play. We are one game away from the conference championship game and you have to play your best players. If we get a big lead, then the back ups can get a few snaps. That is the only way that Rising and/or Thompson see the field. If Sam plays and gets hurt, then you deal with it at that time. It would be a different situation if this game had no meaning, but that is not the case.

[Magus Ossis 2830]

The 70 limit should be no problem for the ‘play em all’ strategy, for the most part. If we have 79 on scholarship now, leave the 4 freshman OL, Hudson, Porter, Carter, and 2 other guys you think will have minimal chance to be useful— Grandy or Rowland maybe. 

[kmac30 416]

The 70 limit should be no problem for the ‘play em all’ strategy, for the most part. If we have 79 on scholarship now, leave the 4 freshman OL, Hudson, Porter, Carter, and 2 other guys you think will have minimal chance to be useful— Grandy or Rowland maybe. 

Definitely want to leave Grandy at home. Dude won’t be much use.

[GotThatFire 166]

42 minutes ago, Helobious said:

....and I have long heard that Beaty wasn’t all that popular with the team, I really don’t think they’ll put up much of a fight for him on Friday. 

 

Lol. Nah

[TexArcher 38004]

5 hours ago, Murfdogg21 said:

If we’re up by 21+ or down by 21+

If we get down 21, none of this will matter, because I will have burned the entire planet to the ground.

[Zavala 1384]

Shane probably plays the entire game.

He didn't miss a pass (or throw the ball away when he should've) last game. Lets see what he can do.

Obviously prepare Cam and Casey for duty if they are needed. But realistically, if the game is tight enough, and Shane isn't cutting it or gets hurt, just play Sam. I don't think Sam is hurt bad enough to keep him out if we were playing Texas Tech, but since we are playing Kansas, I think Tom wants to let him keep healing. Shit, the way the defense was playing against Iowa State, he had Sam telling him he could go, and still left Shane out there.

[ztejas 43526]

7 hours ago, Huckleberry said:

The Big 12 limits football travel squads to 70, so that definitely presents an obstacle this week.

Is this sarcasm? 70 players is enough to go 3 deep at every position on the field on both sides of the ball. When is the last time Texas got even remotely close to playing 70 guys in one game?

If the coaching staff can't figure out which 70 guys to take I'm going to wonder what the hell they are getting paid to do. 

[Huckleberry 33064]

I would recommend reading the post, internalizing it, digesting it, then asking that question again. I know it's hard for most posters around here to comprehend more than two sentences at a time but go ahead and give it a shot.

[jdhorn92 1553]

3 hours ago, Laga4 said:

I just hope we are up so much at halftime we play errbody in the 2nd half. 

I'm afraid we're a year away from that luxury given how this season has gone.

[Beer Horn 93]

Unless one got back up reps last week and the staff feels comfortable with him then with this being a short week not seeing doing too much exotic

[Irish Wrist Watch 1397]

Rising can throw the long ball. If Sam had been a little more accurate, we would have had a 93-yd TD pass last Saturday. I would love to see what the kid can do. He's fast and accurate. Hell yes, play him.

[brojangles2 786]

5 hours ago, Helobious said:

I mean it is Kansas. They suck and I have long heard that Beaty wasn’t all that popular with the team, I really don’t think they’ll put up much of a fight for him on Friday. 

If Buechele gets hurt, just get a walk on to hand it off to Ingram/Watson/Young/Carter the entire game. Should be more than enough to get the W.

The same Carter who hasn’t taken a snap all season? Cool. 

[Dbeasy 15078]

I would recommend reading the post, internalizing it, digesting it, then asking that question again. I know it's hard for most posters around here to comprehend more than two sentences at a time but go ahead and give it a shot.

Too long didn’t read. I think it has to do with digestion. The answer is Pepto Bismol.

[MrPhlegm 3413]

The same Carter who hasn’t taken a snap all season? Cool. 

He's gonna quick kick you stupid twatwaffle, duh.

[MrPhlegm 3413]

Too long didn’t read. I think it has to do with digestion. The answer is Pepto Bismol.

worst "is it muledick?" Evah.

What the fuck is wrong with you idoits?

[Paul Wesley 3289]

6 hours ago, Helobious said:

I really don’t think they’ll put up much of a fight for him on Friday. 

 

I think you underestimate how much teams hate Texas.  Plus senior night, last game of the season, last home game, etc...  

They might not be very good, but they're going to play hard.  

[dcar00 14330]

12 hours ago, Huckleberry said:

The Big 12 limits football travel squads to 70, so that definitely presents an obstacle this week.

Oh wait, there's an exception for one game. 

So assuming we haven't used that exception yet we name up to 70 juniors, sophomores, and freshmen and then call all the seniors exceptions.

my guess is we use the exception for Texas OU game but who knows.

[dcar00 14330]

5 hours ago, TexArcher said:

If we get down 21, none of this will matter, because I will have burned the entire planet to the ground.

this is exactly what I was thinking...