Official Surly - Texas at Kansas Game Thread

[dcbc 14487]

How did we look against aggy before winning a natty with Vince?

Okay, its a dumb comparison.  But we were a better team then, and still could indicate that we are a team populated by 18--23 year olds. 

Edited November 23, 2018 by dcbc

[alyeska 112]

How bad is OU’s D? They gave up 40 points to that offense. 

[honolulu horn 6164]

2 minutes ago, alyeska said:

How bad is OU’s D? They gave up 40 points to that offense. 

Yeah. That's just unreal.

[NowThis 931]

Ruffin Mcneil is the best

[JBJ 3655]

Did the refs blow the "batted ball" call? 

I don't think rekick is an option.

[Atticus 3976]

I missed the early part of the game, but looking at the video from ESPN, did the refs review that 11 yd run by Pooka Williams where his knee looks like it hit the ground?

[Yesh 929]

2 minutes ago, Atticus said:

I missed the early part of the game, but looking at the video from ESPN, did the refs review that 11 yd run by Pooka Williams where his knee looks like it hit the ground?

No, but they did review and overturn Sam getting sacked when there was no clear view his knee actually hit.

[Dahobbs 17625]

2 minutes ago, Atticus said:

I missed the early part of the game, but looking at the video from ESPN, did the refs review that 11 yd run by Pooka Williams where his knee looks like it hit the ground?

Of course not.

[Vic Mackey 47082]

20 minutes ago, Tom Chairman said:

Found the village idiot

Is he wrong? I mean shit, we had 0 penalties into the 3rd quarter while Kansas had 7 or 8. Did they miss the call on the onside? Sure. But I didn't think the refs were bad today. Not anything like what we have seen in the past.

[ChickenSandwich 9843]

Yes  they missed the knee down and ruled a recover on a fumble when the ball was still in play. 

[Dahobbs 17625]

It is good to be back in the championship game. In general I think the refs have been fine this season. The replay officials on the other hand have absolutely had a negative Texas bias. 

[Dbeasy 15068]

It has been a rollercoaster of a year, and I’ll admit it got to me, but dammit everyone should be ecstatic about where we sit right now as a program, in recruiting, and this year overall.

[midtown 3346]

What he said...everyone would be happy as  can be with 9-3 and a shot at the conference title in the second year with what looks like two great recruiting years in a row.    Sucks to know how close we came to 10-2, 11-1, or 12-0...easily freaked by how close we were to 6-6

[DreadHead 116]

4 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

It has been a rollercoaster of a year, and I’ll admit it got to me, but dammit everyone should be ecstatic about where we sit right now as a program, in recruiting, and this year overall.

I'm ecstatic.. I was fearing a tight game going into things, but the seemingly silly fouls, lack of calls on fouls, play calling, general weirdness of the game was playing with my emotions. Damn happy now to put that shit behind us.

Let's go.. ride or die... I think we can beat both OU and WV but would rather see us wipe the smile off Grier's face and get some revenge. We have unfinished business with WV.. fuck OU, we already beat that dog. HookEm!

[Disco Missile 456]

Final Score:

W 24-17

First Downs:
Texas – 19
KU – 14

Third Down Conversions
Texas – 6-15
KU – 9-18

Total Yards:
Texas - 297
KU - 296

Passing:
Texas – 16-28, 154 yds, 2TD, 2 int
KU - 18-35, 159 yards, 1TD, int

Rushing:
Texas - 41-143, 3.5 ypc, TD
KU - 33-137, 4.2 ypc, TD

TOP
Texas – 34:49
KU – 25:11

Turnovers:
Texas - 2
KU - 1

Penalties:
Texas – 4-35
KU – 9-98

 

Obviously Sam wasn't 100%, but we did enough to win.
Limited Kansas' explosive plays especially in the passing game, and played disciplined possession ball.

[Valmy77 13243]

That time of possession advantage was huge. We have been doing a great job of that this year, keeping our defense fresh.

[Eldodroptop 35]

15 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

It has been a rollercoaster of a year, and I’ll admit it got to me, but dammit everyone should be ecstatic about where we sit right now as a program, in recruiting, and this year overall.

Win next week and the word ecstatic will apply. 

The performance of Texas thus far qualifies as expected. Win 11 and the term, mind blown, will apply.

[cdain3 3454]

Lol

[DixonHur 11340]

For all those still bitching about Tom Herman, turn on the USF game to remind yourselves what a REAL shitty coach looks like.

[JFKFC 4890]

First, you lose by a lot. 

Then, you lose by a little. 

Then,  you win by a little. 

Then, you win by a lot. 

 

- Hans Gruber, Die Hard

[deft 6856]

And then Herman falls off of the building. Wait, wut?

 

[coolsax 49]

We should have blown Kansas out today.  We didn’t but we still hung in to win against what is obviously an improved Kansas team playing for their lame duck coach on Senior day.  I’ll take the win and the berth in the big 12 cg in a season that obviously shows we are better physically and mentally(4th quarters excepted). We come out with a 10 win season then It’s Been a roaring success!

[XYZ 2154]

1 hour ago, Vic Mackey said:

Exactly. Is Herman perfect? No. But no coach or player is. I just wanted a win today. On the road in the conference for a chance to go to the first Big 12 title game in almost a decade. Wasn't pretty but I never thought the game was in doubt. Enjoy the win and kick back and watch WVU/OU tonight to see whom we play. People were so fickle today. Talking about losing any time any play went against us.

Pos rep for using “whom”.

[Whatever 700]

What he said...everyone would be happy as  can be with 9-3 and a shot at the conference title in the second year with what looks like two great recruiting years in a row.    Sucks to know how close we came to 10-2, 11-1, or 12-0...easily freaked by how close we were to 6-6

100% this. It's the natural progression. Last year was marred by a bunch of single digit losses. This year we are winning those same types of games.

[Specktrout 122]

1 hour ago, KeysPhoneWallet said:

It's possible the big 12 is a league with a lot of good teams this year, so much so that even Kansas is improved. We should all be happy that we have broken out of the doldrums and are playing for a conference championship. Things are looking up for Texas.

Everyone with the mentality of "we suck if we don't dominate shitty Kansas" or "we should be elite bc our uniform has the word Texas on it" are missing the fucking point. It's hard to do well, it doesn't happen bc of the name on the Jersey or because you should, you have to make it happen. And we should be enjoying it.

Getting to the ccg is very positive. A lot of teams that are kind of equal? Probably. League full of good teams? Nope.

[CBHorn 420]

1 hour ago, JBJ said:

Did the refs blow the "batted ball" call? 

I don't think rekick is an option.

That was the right call.

[d.plainview872 175]

I predicted 8-4 with a slight chance to make the CCG and next year to be when we have a high probability to make the playoffs. They exceeded my expectations. I'm happy.

[Zavala 1384]

1 hour ago, ckhorn said:

We will take it, but Herman needs to bring a veteran coach on his staff that can help his teams be more consistent. He and his coaches obviously have not figured it out and I'm going back to his time at Houston. There is always game or two a year teams have let downs, but damn. We can't do it consistently quarter to quarter.

I think Herb is the man on offense. 

Maybe need a new badass on defense?

[miguelito 11266]

I think we kicked out of bounds twice on kickoffs, right? How come those penalties don't show up in the total penalty number?

[Native Horn 3504]

Because they didn't happen.  We are at not at war with Iceberg.  We are at war with Romaine.

BOMC rules.

[runthebone 8013]

Let's change the rules so our games don't have fourth quarters.  

[MadBurgerMaker 404]

24 minutes ago, miguelito said:

I think we kicked out of bounds twice on kickoffs, right? How come those penalties don't show up in the total penalty number?

The batted ball call on the onside kick didn't show up either, I don't think.

[Thetexashammer 1062]

2 hours ago, Dahobbs said:

In general I think the refs have been fine this season. The replay officials on the other hand have absolutely had a negative Texas bias. 

Well, they only called holding on our defensive line once, and they didn't "bump into" Herman, so i guess that's great success.

In all seriousness I do think they were better about calling holding, both for and against. Better = they called it once in a while.

Edited November 23, 2018 by Thetexashammer

[ckhorn 208]

48 minutes ago, Zavala said:

I think Herb is the man on offense. 

Maybe need a new badass on defense?

It's just not a defensive issue, but yes. If there is an opening. Its on defense. Overall, I think its program issue.

Whats the guy that came San Jose State during Mack's time. We where a soft as Charmin and in no time, we were spitting nails. Herman is still young. If he isn't too Mensa he will figure it out, although being Mensa seems to get in the way.

[FORTY NINE TO ZERO 2652]

3 hours ago, housious said:

You’re fucking retarded. This game was called fine. This season, for the most part, has been called fine. Crybaby bitches like you will sit here and whine no matter what.

I would normally agree, but the onside kick call was horrible and was a major swing the game 

[Nueces River Rat 5539]

Let's change the rules so our games don't have fourth quarters.  

I’ll sign that petition.

[Nueces River Rat 5539]

I think we kicked out of bounds twice on kickoffs, right? How come those penalties don't show up in the total penalty number?

Because it’s an automatic placement of the ball at the 35.

[Hamttx 419]

3 hours ago, Specktrout said:

lol on the 1st part.

Why? Sure Texas has some issues. And Alabama has a great team. But, what team have they played that could really put pressure on their defense? Texas does have receivers that can control space, they go zone, Texas wins that match up. We can also RPO far more efficiently then any team they have played this year. As good as LSU defense may be. Bama could load up knowing there was little to no threat of a vertical passing game. Which is pretty much what they did. There were plays were all 11 defenders were within 5 yards of the LOS.

Flip it over and ask what does Alabama do that Texas hasn’t seen? Run power? I think that plays into Texas’ strength. And Tua biggest play is pretty much a simplified version of what most big 12 teams run. 

In fact the intangible is Sam. Healthy he presents Alabama their biggest problem. Because they must respect the Texas passing game, and have to play man. They go zone and Texas would move up and down the field on them. In a man to man scheme shifts the point of attack numbers to Texas on called QB run plays.

All that said. If they played next week and you asked me to bet on who do I take? I would take Texas. And I very well may lose. But I think it would be a good game. And I wouldn’t be shocked if Texas won.

[nineliveslost 2782]

12 minutes ago, Hamttx said:

Why? Sure Texas has some issues. And Alabama has a great team. But, what team have they played that could really put pressure on their defense? Texas does have receivers that can control space, they go zone, Texas wins that match up. We can also RPO far more efficiently then any team they have played this year. As good as LSU defense may be. Bama could load up knowing there was little to no threat of a vertical passing game. Which is pretty much what they did. There were plays were all 11 defenders were within 5 yards of the LOS.

Flip it over and ask what does Alabama do that Texas hasn’t seen? Run power? I think that plays into Texas’ strength. And Tua biggest play is pretty much a simplified version of what most big 12 teams run. 

In fact the intangible is Sam. Healthy he presents Alabama their biggest problem. Because they must respect the Texas passing game, and have to play man. They go zone and Texas would move up and down the field on them. In a man to man scheme shifts the point of attack numbers to Texas on called QB run plays.

All that said. If they played next week and you asked me to bet on who do I take? I would take Texas. And I very well may lose. But I think it would be a good game. And I wouldn’t be shocked if Texas won.

wuuuuuut...Hey man, I love your optimism, but wow. Alabama would ass rap us and they would make us pay for every mistake we make(and we make multiple mistakes every game)  We won 9 games . Fucking awesome but lets not start sucking each other's dicks . 

Beat ALabama smh....for fucks sake. I like it and im going ot continue to drink until I agree with your thinking because im enjoying life right now. 

Edited November 24, 2018 by nineliveslost
They would ass rape us also

[Shaddie 1651]

Dude did you happen to notice Anderson at LT. He can’t block even a ok speed rusher. Sam would have no time to throw. 

[GreenspointTexas 9649]

Anderson has been getting fucking destroyed the last 3 weeks

[Machinator 32099]

Anderson is playing hurt. Do people not know this?

[Stunns38 3536]

Anderson is playing hurt. Do people not know this?

Yep, and before we can hang with the Bamas and Clemson’s of the world, we need real depth. We’re at least 2 years from having the depth to absorb injuries without much drop off.

[miguelito 11266]

50 minutes ago, Nueces River Rat said:

Because it’s an automatic placement of the ball at the 35.

I know that, but why doesn't it count as a penalty?

/scorekeeping questions

[cabowabo 4487]

Wrong thread 

Edited November 24, 2018 by cabowabo

[hookem48 4700]

1 hour ago, Hamttx said:

Why? Sure Texas has some issues. And Alabama has a great team. But, what team have they played that could really put pressure on their defense? Texas does have receivers that can control space, they go zone, Texas wins that match up. We can also RPO far more efficiently then any team they have played this year. As good as LSU defense may be. Bama could load up knowing there was little to no threat of a vertical passing game. Which is pretty much what they did. There were plays were all 11 defenders were within 5 yards of the LOS.

Flip it over and ask what does Alabama do that Texas hasn’t seen? Run power? I think that plays into Texas’ strength. And Tua biggest play is pretty much a simplified version of what most big 12 teams run. 

In fact the intangible is Sam. Healthy he presents Alabama their biggest problem. Because they must respect the Texas passing game, and have to play man. They go zone and Texas would move up and down the field on them. In a man to man scheme shifts the point of attack numbers to Texas on called QB run plays.

All that said. If they played next week and you asked me to bet on who do I take? I would take Texas. And I very well may lose. But I think it would be a good game. And I wouldn’t be shocked if Texas won.

Bama's dline would absolutely destroy our oline

[A’Dam Psycho 1470]

I’m amazed that Blow U gave up 40 pts to this team

[Simkins Rat 15]

CkHorn

"Whats the guy that came San Jose State during Mack's time. We where a soft as Charmin and in no time, we were spitting nails. Herman is still young. If he isn't too Mensa he will figure it out, although being Mensa seems to get in the way."

You are referring to Dick Tomey, former head coach at Hawaii and Arizona (pre-Texas) and San Jose (post Texas) who Mack Brown brought to UT in to analyze the program and to act as assistant head coach and DE coach.  Essentially, Tomey told Brown that the team's strength and conditioning was lousy, especially among linemen, and that practices were not properly organized and were "soft". Tomey assumed a significant role in team conditioning and practice routine, leading to a record of 11-1 with Rose Bowl win over Michigan).  

Brown also brought in Greg Robinson as co-DC.

Robinson and Tomey were no nonsense ass kickers who improved matters dramatically.  Doubtful Vince and crew win the NC without their influence.

Unfortunately, Tomey and Robinson stuck around a single year, and after winning the NC, Brown and the staff reverted to prior form and Texas lost the hard edge that Tomey and Robinson honed. The offensive line in particular declined dramatically after 2005. Soft as Charmin is an apt description.

[TreatyOak 16366]

[orangecat92 306]

59 minutes ago, Simkins Rat said:

CkHorn

"Whats the guy that came San Jose State during Mack's time. We where a soft as Charmin and in no time, we were spitting nails. Herman is still young. If he isn't too Mensa he will figure it out, although being Mensa seems to get in the way."

You are referring to Dick Tomey, former head coach at Hawaii and Arizona (pre-Texas) and San Jose (post Texas) who Mack Brown brought to UT in to analyze the program and to act as assistant head coach and DE coach.  Essentially, Tomey told Brown that the team's strength and conditioning was lousy, especially among linemen, and that practices were not properly organized and were "soft". Tomey assumed a significant role in team conditioning and practice routine, leading to a record of 11-1 with Rose Bowl win over Michigan).  

Brown also brought in Greg Robinson as co-DC.

Robinson and Tomey were no nonsense ass kickers who improved matters dramatically.  Doubtful Vince and crew win the NC without their influence.

Unfortunately, Tomey and Robinson stuck around a single year, and after winning the NC, Brown and the staff reverted to prior form and Texas lost the hard edge that Tomey and Robinson honed. The offensive line in particular declined dramatically after 2005. Soft as Charmin is an apt description.

great points.  Just looked him up, he is retired, age 80.  Need to repeat the process with a younger version of Tomey to do the consulting.  Mensa might talk to Mack about the idea during off-season. 

 

9-3, in the Big 12 title game, having already beaten the gooners?  Who would have expressed the slightest displeasure at this outcome in August, or especially after Maryland ?

 

The problem I have is how we look in the 4th.  We probably have the most in-game experience at fielding onside kicks in the conference, maybe the country.   

 

Nice problem to have.  Now correct it!