Bowl Game

[joeycovers 391]

So win and we play in Sugar

lose and we are in Alamo 

Does that cover it or could we still make a NY6 game with a loss? 

[mdmost 43,074]

Outside shot at the Fiesta with a loss. 

[BigVegasHorn26 630]

Sugar it is.  

[SDG 3,319]

1 minute ago, mdmost said:

Outside shot at the Fiesta with a loss. 

Fiesta is an at large bid so we could get it with a win; no?  

[C-Man 27,293]

Fiesta is an at large bid so we could get it with a win; no?  

Thought Big 12 Champ is “promised” to Sugar

[Treefidy 1,481]

2 minutes ago, SDG said:

Fiesta is an at large bid so we could get it with a win; no?  

No

[Red Five 41,007]

So what would happen with the Sugar if OU wins and goes to the playoff? 

[mdmost 43,074]

No. At large means they get to pick from any of the teams in the top 10 of the playoff rankings. Sugar is slotted for Big 12/SEC winners. Since Bama/UGA will go to the playoff or both, an SEC team will be put in there. If Bama wins, UGA goes to the Sugar as the SEC representative. 

[Treefidy 1,481]

Just now, C-Man said:

 

Thought Big 12 Champ is “promised” to Sugar

 

Yes.  Will get UGA or LSU

[taybo20 2,887]

Yeah pretty much sugar or Alamo the way I see it

[SDG 3,319]

Oh,  I thought the payoff changed the tie ins for the NY6 games.  

[mdmost 43,074]

2 minutes ago, Red Five said:

So what would happen with the Sugar if OU wins and goes to the playoff? 

OU is still outside looking in unless Michigan or Notre Dame loses. But if the teams fall ahead of them, I think it's more a free for all and the teams that lose their representatives get first choice on the replacements. They only have to take a Big 12 team if we win the CCG. 

Edited November 24, 2018 by mdmost

[Treefidy 1,481]

OU has to suddenly start playing defense to whiff playoffs.  It's far more likely they will fire 2 DCs this year

[Red Five 41,007]

2 minutes ago, mdmost said:

They only have to take a Big 12 team if we win the CCG. 

I think I'm more confused now. 

[Treefidy 1,481]

3 minutes ago, Red Five said:

So what would happen with the Sugar if OU wins and goes to the playoff? 

If it were to happen, I guess still a chance we go sugar?  

[mdmost 43,074]

Just now, Red Five said:

I think I'm more confused now. 

This is talking out my ass but I think they only have to take Texas if we win. If we lose and OU moves to the playoff, they are not forced to take a Big 12 team. They can take whomever they want. I don't know if they get first choice of the at-large teams since they lose 2 representative but it would make sense.

[Treefidy 1,481]

Rose, orange and sugar don't have to take at large bids. 

[Treefidy 1,481]

So if UW wins the P12, WSU likely in the Alamo?  WSU-WVU first one to 75?

[mdmost 43,074]

Correct. 

[SDG 3,319]

4 minutes ago, Treefidy said:

So if UW wins the P12, WSU likely in the Alamo?  WSU-WVU first one to 75?

If WSU ends up having to play Texas again I'll probably go postal.  

(not really, but it would suck for me)

[Helobious 9,477]

The last time Texas left the state to play a bowl game, Obama was still in his first term as president. 

[C-Man 27,293]

Updated Bowl projections at SI.com have us matched up with LSU in the Peach Bowl and OU/Georgia in the Sugar.

[C-Man 27,293]

Even more glorious that they’ve got Tech v aggy in Academy Sports/Outdoors Texas Bowl in Houston. Delish

[Zavala 1,384]

4 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Updated Bowl projections at SI.com have us matched up with LSU in the Peach Bowl and OU/Georgia in the Sugar.

I would rather play LSU but I'd think we could beat either. 

[Red Five 41,007]

They'd be close games. Just like against Kansas, or OU, or Tulsa, or Lake Travis, or the LA Rams. 

[JOSEYWALES66 1,805]

I don’t see Texas wanting to play LSU because we play them so early next year. 

[jdhorn92 1,560]

54 minutes ago, SDG said:

Fiesta is an at large bid so we could get it with a win; no?  

yes i would think with the UCF QB out, they become less attractive; they may even take a loss next week.

[NowThis 931]

55 minutes ago, mdmost said:

No. At large means they get to pick from any of the teams in the top 10 of the playoff rankings. Sugar is slotted for Big 12/SEC winners. Since Bama/UGA will go to the playoff or both, an SEC team will be put in there. If Bama wins, UGA goes to the Sugar as the SEC representative. 

if OU beats Texas and Bama beats Georgia then Sugar seems an OU-GA rematch, right?

If Texas goes to Alamo, it's going to be Leach WSU right?  But they have 10 wins, so i'm guess they do better than Alamo, probably Holiday.

Edited November 24, 2018 by NowThis

[TxEx84 434]

UCF guaranteed at-large spot as top Group of 5 team.

[jdhorn92 1,560]

1 minute ago, TxEx84 said:

UCF guaranteed at-large spot as top Group of 5 team.

I believe they have to achieve a certain ranking and w/o QB they could lose.

[mdmost 43,074]

2 minutes ago, NowThis said:

if OU beats Texas and Bama beats Georgia then Sugar seems an OU-GA rematch, right?

Yes. Sugar gets their two representatives from each conference. 

[Pancho 45,175]

8 minutes ago, JOSEYWALES66 said:

I don’t see Texas wanting to play LSU because we play them so early next year. 

Would we really have a choice?

[SDG 3,319]

Just now, Pancho Negro said:

Would we really have a choice?

Yes; the school and conference accept the bid or not.  

[mdmost 43,074]

Yeah, we and the Big 12 aren't passing up a New Year's 6 bowl. 

[NowThis 931]

If Texas loses, why not the Holiday instead of Alamo?

[JOSEYWALES66 1,805]

2 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Yeah, we and the Big 12 aren't passing up a New Year's 6 bowl. 

That is a point I didn’t consider.  If it is for a New Year’s 6 bowl, we would play anybody. 

[Pancho 45,175]

1 minute ago, SDG said:

Yes; the school and conference accept the bid or not.  

I thought you went to WSU?

and that’s really my point here. We wouldn’t pass up the peach bowl just because we’d play LSU and the play them again months later. 

 

[mdmost 43,074]

Holiday doesn't have a Big 12 tie in any longer. I think they went with the Big 10 vs. Pac 12. Why are you so eager to return to the Mack Brown Annual Classic?

[SDG 3,319]

Just now, Pancho Negro said:

I thought you went to WSU?

and that’s really my point here. We wouldn’t pass up the peach bowl just because we’d play LSU and the play them again months later. 

 

I went to WSU and Texas.  

[Pancho 45,175]

Just now, SDG said:

I went to WSU and Texas.  

Grad school?

[SDG 3,319]

Just now, Pancho Negro said:

Grad school?

Yep.  WSU undergrad and Texas grad.  

[Guest Lobo]

We’d get a lot of tv eyes, but at 9-4...there’s just too many good teams ahead of us to get a NY6 spot.  If we lose I’d say it’s 85% Alamo, and 15% Peach/Fiesta/Camping World and even a rounding amount for us to Sugar if Ou makes CFP

[Pancho 45,175]

22 minutes ago, SDG said:

Yep.  WSU undergrad and Texas grad.  

Cool

getting my doctorate at Nebraska but don’t think I’ll root for them lol

never been to pullman

 

more coffee

[Treefidy 1,481]

31 minutes ago, Lobo said:

We’d get a lot of tv eyes, but at 9-4...there’s just too many good teams ahead of us to get a NY6 spot.  If we lose I’d say it’s 85% Alamo, and 15% Peach/Fiesta/Camping World and even a rounding amount for us to Sugar if Ou makes CFP

I don't know about that, there's only 10 teams with 10+ wins and only 2 more capable of hitting 10 wins (not including us in this exercise as it would assume we lost CCG)  3 of those are G5's in UCF, Utah St (10-1) playing Boise (9-2) tonight.   4 go playoffs, go ahead and cross off 2 G5's and that's 6 teams remaining.  

If it finished as expected today:

bama, dome, UM, clemp in playoff

tOSU-UW rose

OU-UGA sugar

4 spots left for LSU, WSU,  UCF, Pedo, UF, UT.  And that's about it for realistic consideration.  UCF likely gets one if they win next week. WSU likely out of contention. I mean, they could put 4 SEC into playoffs/NY6 along with 3 B1G, but I think we have a high likelyhood of making 1 with 9 wins.

[Treefidy 1,481]

I will add that tOSU is going to screw this up a bit by winning today, and it would be really nice for FSU to get their shit together and expose gata

[Rip76 4,974]

No LSU until next year I hope.

Would love to see Texas/Georgia.

[Pato del Muerto 52,663]

1 hour ago, C-Man said:

Updated Bowl projections at SI.com have us matched up with LSU in the Peach Bowl and OU/Georgia in the Sugar.

With the way Ohio state is going, there’s a pretty good chance that the sooners slide into de facto playoff position waiting on Georgia to lose to Alabama. 

So bowl projections that presume ou wins next week will have them in the playoffs instead of sugar, unless they have osu jumping ou. 

[Guest Lobo]

It’s really just the NY4 this particular cycle since Rose will clearly take any Pac12 and Big10 teams not in CFP that are still eligible.  

So what’s the pecking order for fiesta and peach?   Who goes first, and is it round robin like Peach, Fiesta, Peach, Fiesta Or is it top pick then next bowl gets both picks before first bowl goes last?   

[gmr548 16,617]

OU is still outside looking in unless Michigan or Notre Dame loses. But if the teams fall ahead of them, I think it's more a free for all and the teams that lose their representatives get first choice on the replacements. They only have to take a Big 12 team if we win the CCG. 

No, the Sugar Bowl takes B12 number two if the B12 sends someone to the playoff. The conference has a contractual tie in the same as the SEC. See OSU going the first time OU went to the playoffs.

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[gmr548 16,617]

What I don't know is if OU were to end up in the playoffs, would they default to us at 9-4 or would they take a likely slightly higher CFP ranked WVU team. Don't know if it would be CCG loser or highest ranked.

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