Mack Brown Tarheel Football: The Orange Slice Boogaloo

[deft 6747]

I think he lived just north in Wortham and this was circa 2000-03
You grew up with Vicki Nicole Hogan?

I ate at Jim’s krispy plenty but she was long gone by the time she changed. Wrights bbq, snack shack, donut shop….this is bring back the feels.

And wortham was a bigger bumfuck than Mexia but I always liked going to the bait and tackle shop there as a kid.

[YGIFS 19445]

Yeah, maybe it was Wortham.  I met him in Mexia once for a business lunch back then.  He had some kinda office there as I recall.  But yeah, i think he lived in Wortham.  He had some massive 3-day weekend mini "festival" at his place IIRC around 2000/01/02.  

Hadn't thought about Sugarhorn in awhile, RIP Benson.  Helluva nice guy and his rum-laden stories of flying his plane were legend.  

I still remember all of us getting there at 5:01p on Friday when the state lots opened by Waller Creek to tailgaters and we'd all swarm into spots with Wheeler's truck to block off an area.  Spend the evening getting shitfaced on crap beer and worse rum.  I'd ride by bike or get a cab back to Travis Heights and crash for a few hours before heading back down there with the then GF to properly tailgate in the morning.  Now if I even smell keg beer or rum, I dry-heave.  Simpler times I suppose.  

Had no idea at the time where the Mack Brown regime would take us just a few years later.  And then no idea what would happen after 2009.  I still like Mack Brown and Wheeler, and lord knows they could both bullshit with the best of 'em.  And not always in a good way.  

[Pimphand 5502]

45 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

Yeah, maybe it was Wortham.  I met him in Mexia once for a business lunch back then.  He had some kinda office there as I recall.  But yeah, i think he lived in Wortham.  He had some massive 3-day weekend mini "festival" at his place IIRC around 2000/01/02.  

Hadn't thought about Sugarhorn in awhile, RIP Benson.  Helluva nice guy and his rum-laden stories of flying his plane were legend.  

I still remember all of us getting there at 5:01p on Friday when the state lots opened by Waller Creek to tailgaters and we'd all swarm into spots with Wheeler's truck to block off an area.  Spend the evening getting shitfaced on crap beer and worse rum.  I'd ride by bike or get a cab back to Travis Heights and crash for a few hours before heading back down there with the then GF to properly tailgate in the morning.  Now if I even smell keg beer or rum, I dry-heave.  Simpler times I suppose.  

Had no idea at the time where the Mack Brown regime would take us just a few years later.  And then no idea what would happen after 2009.  I still like Mack Brown and Wheeler, and lord knows they could both bullshit with the best of 'em.  And not always in a good way.  

Yeah I will always view Wheeler favorably every interaction I ever had with him resulted in good times. Were you out there for his big Texas Independence Day soiree? 

And yes that damn.    puncheon rum was noxious. Wild Bill would laugh his ass off at us young bucks trying to one up each other only to wind up puking and/or blackout drunk on Friday nights haha.

He was a true legend we were lucky enough to kick it with. I rode my motorcycle out to his funeral in Hitchcock to pay my respects then lo and behold his son was on the same flight from IAH to Columbus for the Ohio State game 2 years later and we have been friends ever since.

[YGIFS 19445]

That's a good story.  I'm quite certain, based on his lineage, his son is good people as well.  

Yeah, I guess it was a Texas Independence Day "festival."  We didn't go, but I know many who did.  It was apparently some 2-night wild bender with him and some buddies playing live music.  I guess that woulda been 2001?  

Whenever I come across "Slingblade" on streaming/cable, I get to that scene where Doyle and his buddies are playing with a legit amp setup on the back porch and everybody is completely shitfaced.  Reminds me of how I envisioned that Wheeler party going.  

Man, they really don't make guys like Benson anymore though.  I have lived many lives and served many masters, but that was a guy with tales as old as time.  He saw and did some shit, that much I know.  I'd say he was forged of a hotter fire, but fucking Wheeler stole that line   

[Pimphand 5502]

2 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

That's a good story.  I'm quite certain, based on his lineage, his son is good people as well.  

Yeah, I guess it was a Texas Independence Day "festival."  We didn't go, but I know many who did.  It was apparently some 2-night wild bender with him and some buddies playing live music.  I guess that woulda been 2001?  

Whenever I come across "Slingblade" on streaming/cable, I get to that scene where Doyle and his buddies are playing with a legit amp setup on the back porch and everybody is completely shitfaced.  Reminds me of how I envisioned that Wheeler party going.  

Man, they really don't make guys like Benson anymore though.  I have lived many lives and served many masters, but that was a guy with tales as old as time.  He saw and did some shit, that much I know.  I'd say he was forged of a hotter fire, but fucking Wheeler stole that line   

Yeah I always held Benson in the absolute highest regard. He was basically my grandparents age and no offense to my grandparents I loved them dearly but I always said I wanted to go out swinging like Benson did sharing stories with the younger generations and partying my ass off until they put me in the ground. So much better than sitting around at home getting old and doing very little outside of their local community. And yes Benson's son and granddaughter are both really good peeps his legacy lives on.

[YGIFS 19445]

Good point, he's one of a handful of people including my own paternal grandfather and my maternal grand-uncle who just keep living life well into their 80's.  My grand-uncle still takes cruises and flies and drives 'n shit.  He's a widower now but is dating a woman 25 years younger than him (if you can call a 70yo a sugarbaby).  But like Benson, they stay alive because they keep moving.  That's the trick, playing it safe just makes you wither away at home.  Ah, who the hell knows?  

I do remember thinking at the 2005 MNC game/06 Rose Bowl that I wish Benson coulda been with us.  He'd probably have died right after the VY touchdown but either way, he went out smiling.  Kinda like with Mack Brown, I just try and remember the good times.  Plenty of time for hang-wringing and what-if'fing on the other side I suppose...

[Pimphand 5502]

When Vince destroyed ole Frostee on 4th and 5 I actually looked up to the sky, pointed, and mumbled to myself "that's for you Wild Bill"

I have little doubt he was enjoying the game from Valhalla... Now we just need to get our shit together and do it again.

[closetohumping 17287]

2 hours ago, closetojumping said:

I never truly followed the bus debacle, as I generally viewed LonghornBob as irritating background noise on the forums. 

Did he really steal a bunch of peoples’ money and then they were marooned, unable to go to Stillwater? I always figured it was bullshit, but it still comes up every now and then. 

I think Bob just disappeared immediately after that fiasco so I would say he likely screwed some people over.    I think a few people actually forgave him for some reason

[YGIFS 19445]

He really did go fully off the grid for a long while.  I tried to call him for some reason a year or two later but his number had changed.  I think shortly thereafter some guys from the original crew bought the website rights and tried to revamp it.  He showed up mysteriously to some post-game party around 08/09 and a small group hung out for awhile.  Nobody brought up the bus debacle as I recall.  And then I ran into him again around 2011/12/13 when we had some late season non-conf. game versus FAU/UCF or one of those garbage teams.  Still Wheeler in the Lee Jeans and white shirt and hat, like McMurray from Letterkenny.  Just shot the shit for a minute over a couple beers.  I think he had gotten engaged or married.  He was trying to keep a low profile which worked out well, because nobody around recognized him unlike the old days when he was a minor celebrity.  Also helped he got much, much quieter with age.  so yeah, been a full decade since I last talked to him.  

If you're out there Bob, let us know you're still alive at least.  You renegade bastard.

[Wulaw Horn 18918]

6 hours ago, Pimphand said:

Can I get a roll call for those who were in Chapel Hill in 2002 for Mack Brown's return home 5 years later?

If you were there you should remember some subset of the following events...

1) We meet up at He's Not Here on Friday to pregame party

2) Crazy bipolar girl comes and starts to hang out with us

3) Wheeler talks to her and convinces her to move to Texas with him

4) I decide its time to leave the bar and check into the hotel so I can taxi back to the bar

5) Wheeler asks me if I will give bipolar girl a ride home with no additional context and me being fully unaware of #3

6) On the way to her house she tells me how excited she is to move to Texas and when I get there if I would wait for her to get her things to which I respond I only agreed to drive her home

7) I check into hotel and get a cab back to He's Not Here

😎 About 30 minutes later bipolar girl shows up with her stuff at He's Not Here including a kevlar vest  There is an ATF agent at the bar who starts to ruminate about having something illegal at the bar and I promptly leave to find another venue.

9) I won't disclose step #9 to protect the identity of the Longhorn fan who jumped on the grenade but he gave her a place to stay for the night.

10) On Saturday before the game we found some other random Texas fan buying her flowers and I disappeared like a fart in the wind as I had my fill.

I was there. I’m aware of at least 40% of that story. 

[Wulaw Horn 18918]

2 hours ago, closetohumping said:

I think Bob just disappeared immediately after that fiasco so I would say he likely screwed some people over.    I think a few people actually forgave him for some reason

So the treason people forgave him for the bus deal (me at least) is he sponsored parties and tailgates for like 10 years and dumped a metric shit ton of his own money into all that shit. I was in law school when I first met him and never saw him not pick up a tab. The money involved in they bus trip was negligible, like $5k or less I would think- and I doubt he set about to do it to scam 50 people out of 100 bucks- he sucked st logistics. I a have no idea what happened to him after that, as I was married to a total cunt and hadn’t kept up with him at all, but that’s my take on it. 
it would be like if Imma collected $200 a head from 10 people for Bama tickets and didn’t show- I’d shrug and figure something happened and hope he was ok. 

[Wulaw Horn 18918]

3 hours ago, Pimphand said:

When Vince destroyed ole Frostee on 4th and 5 I actually looked up to the sky, pointed, and mumbled to myself "that's for you Wild Bill"

I have little doubt he was enjoying the game from Valhalla... Now we just need to get our shit together and do it again.

I was joking around with him one day and asked him why he didn’t upgrade to another trophy wife. He told me at his age (he was 80) a trophy wife was someone who could drive you around and keep track of your pills. 

[closetohumping 17287]

24 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

So the treason people forgave him for the bus deal (me at least) is he sponsored parties and tailgates for like 10 years and dumped a metric shit ton of his own money into all that shit. I was in law school when I first met him and never saw him not pick up a tab. The money involved in they bus trip was negligible, like $5k or less I would think- and I doubt he set about to do it to scam 50 people out of 100 bucks- he sucked st logistics. I a have no idea what happened to him after that, as I was married to a total cunt and hadn’t kept up with him at all, but that’s my take on it. 
it would be like if Imma collected $200 a head from 10 people for Bama tickets and didn’t show- I’d shrug and figure something happened and hope he was ok. 

Thing is, I "think" he's ok but I don't believe he's returned them money.  I could be wrong.

[CycleTex87 2944]

Epic stories fellas.  Keep going. 

[Horn Dogg 3726]

On 1/7/2024 at 12:35 PM, YGIFS said:

He really did go fully off the grid for a long while.  I tried to call him for some reason a year or two later but his number had changed.  I think shortly thereafter some guys from the original crew bought the website rights and tried to revamp it.  He showed up mysteriously to some post-game party around 08/09 and a small group hung out for awhile.  Nobody brought up the bus debacle as I recall.  And then I ran into him again around 2011/12/13 when we had some late season non-conf. game versus FAU/UCF or one of those garbage teams.  Still Wheeler in the Lee Jeans and white shirt and hat, like McMurray from Letterkenny.  Just shot the shit for a minute over a couple beers.  I think he had gotten engaged or married.  He was trying to keep a low profile which worked out well, because nobody around recognized him unlike the old days when he was a minor celebrity.  Also helped he got much, much quieter with age.  so yeah, been a full decade since I last talked to him.  

If you're out there Bob, let us know you're still alive at least.  You renegade bastard.

You can find him on Facebook at this profile.  I was in college during the glory days of LFZ and Bob was always cool as shit to us at the tailgate parties.  I remember getting drunk with several of the players parents and even seeing Bob get kicked out of a UT tennis match during the spring game tailgate.  I don’t know the whole story on the bus debacle, but I remember when it went down and I wasn’t involved.

[ButtFumble 5089]

https://www.wralsportsfan.com/unc-football-has-hit-a-wall-mack-brown-says-can-nil-push-the-heels-forward/21239557/

Mack Brown needs everyone to buy some NIL Casistas.....you do not get an actual beautiful casista you just get a piece of paper saying you own an imaginary one or for you youngsters a casista NFT

[satyanash 14133]

Mack Brown still showing some feisty-ness at media days

 

[Deej 76156]

As we Texas fans know, Mack will quit before he retires. 

[DFW Horn 6028]

2 minutes ago, Deej said:

As we Texas fans know, Mack will quit before he retires. 

You mean he hasn't already? Did anyone see him recruiting in Florida?

[TexasMan 10705]

 Mack kept the receipts 

[Chooky 13278]

Mack is about to turn 73 and still radar scans the universe for negativity. 

[DigglerontheHoof 20512]

Thank God he's UNC's problem, now. 

[closetojumping 61997]

Things should be pretty fun for us watching UNC this year. They’re not going to be a good team. 

[closetojumping 61997]

Well, I say that, and it’s mostly about what they’re returning rather than who they are playing. The schedule sets up pretty well for them if they’re even average. 

[cochamps 1866]

14 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Well, I say that, and it’s mostly about what they’re returning rather than who they are playing. The schedule sets up pretty well for them if they’re even average. 

That is a good point about schedule.  With these mega conferences, some schools will avoid the tough ones, and some (Florida) will get hammered.  There is a wider variation in SOS than what we had previously, which will affect W-L records significantly.

[closetojumping 61997]

Let's actually preview UNC for the season since I have nothing better to do while I wait on some work stuff. Spoilered for tl;dr slugs.

Spoiler

UNC returns 5 starters on offense including AA candidate (2nd team AA last year) Omarion Hampton at TB. I think that dude is sensational with his size and speed. They also bring in Max Johnson as the replacement for Drake Maye. The talking heads and writers, and frankly us as fans, all assume that this will be a significant downgrade at the QB position.

I'm skeptical of that premise. Maye did not play last year like a top 5 draft pick. I honestly wondered if he had money on the Virginia ML last year watching that game. He succeeded in aiding and abetting at least two other losses last season - NC State and Clemson.

Max Johnson is a competent QB who can manage games without ever trying to play hero ball. With Hampton in the backfield, Johnson will be fine at QB if ... UNC can competently replace 4 starters on the OL. Given Mack's history with mediocre OL fronts, that's a big if. 

The OC for North Carolina is Chip Lindsey. He's been a fine OC when he has an offensive mind overseeing things - Gus Malzahn, Todd Monken. He's been middling otherwise.

Defensively, UNC brings back 7 starters, none of whom will scare offenses. They lost their AA LB, Cedric Gray, to the NFL and that leaves a big hole. The big thing for the UNC defense is Geoff Collins. While he was a train wreck as HC at Ga Tech, he's had success at plenty of places as a DC. He's inheriting a positively mediocre defense in terms of performance, but Mack's recruited solid talent. Over the final 6 P4 games last season, UNC allowed 37 ppg. That was not against a group of juggernauts offensively (UVa, Ga Tech, Duke, Clemson, NC State, and WVU). 

Collins' ability to mold the defense into an upper echelon ACC group coupled with UNC fielding even a middling OL will have a chance to put UNC into surprise potential CFP team territory. Is that because they'll be worth a fuck? No, actually. It's largely because their schedule is utter cat shit. 

UNC goes: 

-@ Minnesota - UNC beat Minnesota 31-13 in Chapel Hill last year. Maybe Minnesota's new QB, a 6th year transfer from New Hampshire, will be a revelation. I don't think Fleck is a bad coach. This game might be really important. If UNC wins here, look out.

-Charlotte - While we should all fear the wrath of Biff Poggi, I don't see a loss here for UNC.

-NC Central - I didn't even know this school existed.

-James Madison - Coaching change and graduation ravaged the JMU roster. They have a new regime returning just 7 starters across both sides of the ball. I don't see a loss here for UNC.

-@ Duke - Manny Diaz and Maalik Murphy lead a team returning just 10 starters. Good luck with that. I'm selling this team all year. 

-Pitt - Narduzzi is a better coach than 3-9 in 2023. They return 9 offensive starters and they have new OC in Kade Bell who might be one of the next big things. I think Pitt is a bowl team this year but this is in Chapel Hill. 

-Ga Tech - these are similarly talented teams and both will have winning records. I like UNC at home.

-bye

-@ Virginia - UVa returns all 5 starters on their OL and they return 16 starters overall. They're on the road against Clemson the week before, so this is a tough recovery game for UVa with UNC coming off of a bye.

-@ FSU - FSU is facing a tough schedule heading into this game, with 2 straight road games, including Miami the week before. FSU returns 10 total starters. They're trotting DJ Uiagulailaileelialiaa out there and the media and their fanbase are talking about him like he's anything other than a fucking mediocrity. FSU is a lazy vote for writers and coaches in the polls. #10 in the Coaches' Poll? Get the fuck out. FSU, at best given schedule and experience, is a fringe top 25 team in CFB this year. Huge game for UNC that they can very easily win.

-bye

-Wake Forest - This seems like the classic game that Mack Brown teams fuck up. UNC should roll these guys at home, but I'm guessing it will be uncomfortably close.

-@ Boston College - BOB is a good program builder if PSU was any indication. It's year 1 though. If Castellanos is still healthy at this point in the season, maybe BC has a prayer. I doubt it. 

-NC State - Doeren has owned Mack Brown the last 3 years and NC State will be good again. This will be the biggest game of the season for both teams, and legitimate CFP contention will be on the line with a possible ACC title game invite being the potential outcome for the winner. 

So, with that schedule and background on the team, assuming a competent D, I could see 10-2/11-1. If the defense and OL don't have their shit together, that schedule still probably gives them a bowl invite. 

I'll be cheering against UNC and Mack Brown, but it looks less fun for folks like me after reflecting on the big picture for the program in 2024.

 

[Fondren & Main 6573]

Mack has yet to beat Florida State since his glorious return to Chapel Hill.

[NeverMarryAStripper 21765]

He never beat Florida State at UT either

[tbone_ 13977]

Mack has yet to beat Florida State since his glorious return to Chapel Hill.

Did he ever beat them his first time there?

[nineliveslost 2686]

4 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

Did he ever beat them his first time there?

nope

[cochamps 1866]

1 hour ago, nineliveslost said:

nope

They scare you to death. 😉

[Funk Doctor Spock 11692]

There should be a website called FuckMackBrown-TexasFootball.com

[texifornia 56014]

On 8/6/2024 at 1:56 PM, closetojumping said:

Let's actually preview UNC for the season since I have nothing better to do while I wait on some work stuff. Spoilered for tl;dr slugs.

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UNC returns 5 starters on offense including AA candidate (2nd team AA last year) Omarion Hampton at TB. I think that dude is sensational with his size and speed. They also bring in Max Johnson as the replacement for Drake Maye. The talking heads and writers, and frankly us as fans, all assume that this will be a significant downgrade at the QB position.

I'm skeptical of that premise. Maye did not play last year like a top 5 draft pick. I honestly wondered if he had money on the Virginia ML last year watching that game. He succeeded in aiding and abetting at least two other losses last season - NC State and Clemson.

Max Johnson is a competent QB who can manage games without ever trying to play hero ball. With Hampton in the backfield, Johnson will be fine at QB if ... UNC can competently replace 4 starters on the OL. Given Mack's history with mediocre OL fronts, that's a big if. 

The OC for North Carolina is Chip Lindsey. He's been a fine OC when he has an offensive mind overseeing things - Gus Malzahn, Todd Monken. He's been middling otherwise.

Defensively, UNC brings back 7 starters, none of whom will scare offenses. They lost their AA LB, Cedric Gray, to the NFL and that leaves a big hole. The big thing for the UNC defense is Geoff Collins. While he was a train wreck as HC at Ga Tech, he's had success at plenty of places as a DC. He's inheriting a positively mediocre defense in terms of performance, but Mack's recruited solid talent. Over the final 6 P4 games last season, UNC allowed 37 ppg. That was not against a group of juggernauts offensively (UVa, Ga Tech, Duke, Clemson, NC State, and WVU). 

Collins' ability to mold the defense into an upper echelon ACC group coupled with UNC fielding even a middling OL will have a chance to put UNC into surprise potential CFP team territory. Is that because they'll be worth a fuck? No, actually. It's largely because their schedule is utter cat shit. 

UNC goes: 

-@ Minnesota - UNC beat Minnesota 31-13 in Chapel Hill last year. Maybe Minnesota's new QB, a 6th year transfer from New Hampshire, will be a revelation. I don't think Fleck is a bad coach. This game might be really important. If UNC wins here, look out.

-Charlotte - While we should all fear the wrath of Biff Poggi, I don't see a loss here for UNC.

-NC Central - I didn't even know this school existed.

-James Madison - Coaching change and graduation ravaged the JMU roster. They have a new regime returning just 7 starters across both sides of the ball. I don't see a loss here for UNC.

-@ Duke - Manny Diaz and Maalik Murphy lead a team returning just 10 starters. Good luck with that. I'm selling this team all year. 

-Pitt - Narduzzi is a better coach than 3-9 in 2023. They return 9 offensive starters and they have new OC in Kade Bell who might be one of the next big things. I think Pitt is a bowl team this year but this is in Chapel Hill. 

-Ga Tech - these are similarly talented teams and both will have winning records. I like UNC at home.

-bye

-@ Virginia - UVa returns all 5 starters on their OL and they return 16 starters overall. They're on the road against Clemson the week before, so this is a tough recovery game for UVa with UNC coming off of a bye.

-@ FSU - FSU is facing a tough schedule heading into this game, with 2 straight road games, including Miami the week before. FSU returns 10 total starters. They're trotting DJ Uiagulailaileelialiaa out there and the media and their fanbase are talking about him like he's anything other than a fucking mediocrity. FSU is a lazy vote for writers and coaches in the polls. #10 in the Coaches' Poll? Get the fuck out. FSU, at best given schedule and experience, is a fringe top 25 team in CFB this year. Huge game for UNC that they can very easily win.

-bye

-Wake Forest - This seems like the classic game that Mack Brown teams fuck up. UNC should roll these guys at home, but I'm guessing it will be uncomfortably close.

-@ Boston College - BOB is a good program builder if PSU was any indication. It's year 1 though. If Castellanos is still healthy at this point in the season, maybe BC has a prayer. I doubt it. 

-NC State - Doeren has owned Mack Brown the last 3 years and NC State will be good again. This will be the biggest game of the season for both teams, and legitimate CFP contention will be on the line with a possible ACC title game invite being the potential outcome for the winner. 

So, with that schedule and background on the team, assuming a competent D, I could see 10-2/11-1. If the defense and OL don't have their shit together, that schedule still probably gives them a bowl invite. 

I'll be cheering against UNC and Mack Brown, but it looks less fun for folks like me after reflecting on the big picture for the program in 2024.

 

NC Central is a consistently strong HBCU program - based in Durham, beat Deion's Jackson State in the Celebration Bowl to take the HBCU national title in 2022.

UNC will obviously wax them, though.

[Machinator 32097]

 

[Machinator 32097]

 

[randomhorn 1500]

Guess that makes the QB selection a little easier 

[skipmcgee 184]

Mack seems to have quite the luck when it comes to last second FGs.

[Dnaguy 11565]

52 minutes ago, Machinator said:

 

I’m Not surprised. He wasn’t a spring chicken.

Max Johnson is usually not able to stand up without significant help. Medical intervention is almost always necessary for a senior.

[Vic Mackey 46668]

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[closetojumping 61997]

On 8/6/2024 at 12:56 PM, closetojumping said:

Let's actually preview UNC for the season since I have nothing better to do while I wait on some work stuff. Spoilered for tl;dr slugs.

  Reveal hidden contents

UNC returns 5 starters on offense including AA candidate (2nd team AA last year) Omarion Hampton at TB. I think that dude is sensational with his size and speed. They also bring in Max Johnson as the replacement for Drake Maye. The talking heads and writers, and frankly us as fans, all assume that this will be a significant downgrade at the QB position.

I'm skeptical of that premise. Maye did not play last year like a top 5 draft pick. I honestly wondered if he had money on the Virginia ML last year watching that game. He succeeded in aiding and abetting at least two other losses last season - NC State and Clemson.

Max Johnson is a competent QB who can manage games without ever trying to play hero ball. With Hampton in the backfield, Johnson will be fine at QB if ... UNC can competently replace 4 starters on the OL. Given Mack's history with mediocre OL fronts, that's a big if. 

The OC for North Carolina is Chip Lindsey. He's been a fine OC when he has an offensive mind overseeing things - Gus Malzahn, Todd Monken. He's been middling otherwise.

Defensively, UNC brings back 7 starters, none of whom will scare offenses. They lost their AA LB, Cedric Gray, to the NFL and that leaves a big hole. The big thing for the UNC defense is Geoff Collins. While he was a train wreck as HC at Ga Tech, he's had success at plenty of places as a DC. He's inheriting a positively mediocre defense in terms of performance, but Mack's recruited solid talent. Over the final 6 P4 games last season, UNC allowed 37 ppg. That was not against a group of juggernauts offensively (UVa, Ga Tech, Duke, Clemson, NC State, and WVU). 

Collins' ability to mold the defense into an upper echelon ACC group coupled with UNC fielding even a middling OL will have a chance to put UNC into surprise potential CFP team territory. Is that because they'll be worth a fuck? No, actually. It's largely because their schedule is utter cat shit. 

UNC goes: 

-@ Minnesota - UNC beat Minnesota 31-13 in Chapel Hill last year. Maybe Minnesota's new QB, a 6th year transfer from New Hampshire, will be a revelation. I don't think Fleck is a bad coach. This game might be really important. If UNC wins here, look out.

-Charlotte - While we should all fear the wrath of Biff Poggi, I don't see a loss here for UNC.

-NC Central - I didn't even know this school existed.

-James Madison - Coaching change and graduation ravaged the JMU roster. They have a new regime returning just 7 starters across both sides of the ball. I don't see a loss here for UNC.

-@ Duke - Manny Diaz and Maalik Murphy lead a team returning just 10 starters. Good luck with that. I'm selling this team all year. 

-Pitt - Narduzzi is a better coach than 3-9 in 2023. They return 9 offensive starters and they have new OC in Kade Bell who might be one of the next big things. I think Pitt is a bowl team this year but this is in Chapel Hill. 

-Ga Tech - these are similarly talented teams and both will have winning records. I like UNC at home.

-bye

-@ Virginia - UVa returns all 5 starters on their OL and they return 16 starters overall. They're on the road against Clemson the week before, so this is a tough recovery game for UVa with UNC coming off of a bye.

-@ FSU - FSU is facing a tough schedule heading into this game, with 2 straight road games, including Miami the week before. FSU returns 10 total starters. They're trotting DJ Uiagulailaileelialiaa out there and the media and their fanbase are talking about him like he's anything other than a fucking mediocrity. FSU is a lazy vote for writers and coaches in the polls. #10 in the Coaches' Poll? Get the fuck out. FSU, at best given schedule and experience, is a fringe top 25 team in CFB this year. Huge game for UNC that they can very easily win.

-bye

-Wake Forest - This seems like the classic game that Mack Brown teams fuck up. UNC should roll these guys at home, but I'm guessing it will be uncomfortably close.

-@ Boston College - BOB is a good program builder if PSU was any indication. It's year 1 though. If Castellanos is still healthy at this point in the season, maybe BC has a prayer. I doubt it. 

-NC State - Doeren has owned Mack Brown the last 3 years and NC State will be good again. This will be the biggest game of the season for both teams, and legitimate CFP contention will be on the line with a possible ACC title game invite being the potential outcome for the winner. 

So, with that schedule and background on the team, assuming a competent D, I could see 10-2/11-1. If the defense and OL don't have their shit together, that schedule still probably gives them a bowl invite. 

I'll be cheering against UNC and Mack Brown, but it looks less fun for folks like me after reflecting on the big picture for the program in 2024.

 

Well, Mack and UNC pulled it out against Minnesota. If they can find a way to work a solid RPO offense with the new QB, they'll be 6-0 heading into the Ga Tech game. With FSU sucking wind, UNC's schedule is flaming poo. Everyone is sleeping on them and they're a candidate for the ACC title game if the QB issue is solvable.

[Pato del Muerto 52036]

On 7/26/2024 at 2:36 PM, TexasMan said:

 Mack kept the receipts 

He is a receipt hoarder.  He keeps all receipts, catalogued and accessible at a moment’s notice. 

[Nicole44 21954]

I wish Mack well. Have always wished him well. It doesn’t mean I can’t poke fun. 
 

Pancakes anyone? I can’t take credit for this one. Still find it funny. 
 

 

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[troph 23995]

that guy was banking on picking up a second with Colt so he could (arguably) be THE guy instead of DKR. Since he couldn't be #1 at TEXAS he ran home to UNC where he hasn't won jack shit and won't win jack shit but he's #1 at UNC. what a choad.

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21 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

He is a receipt hoarder.  He keeps all receipts, catalogued and accessible at a moment’s notice. 

File it under D. For donut. 

[Tex Long 4273]

Y'all need to cut Mack some slack. He spent his entire life playing second fiddle to his older brother. Real-life aggy-type little brother stuff. Watson was pitcher and shortstop, Mack played first. Watson was quarterback, Mack played fullback. Watson was point guard, Mack played small forward. Hell, he got his nickname, Mack, because neither Mom nor Dad could remember his actual name. Mack got to coach Texas, won the National Championship. But Watson coached Vanderbilt, richer and smarter.

All things considered, I'd love to see him coach UNC into the CFP... and hope we get a shot at them. There's a lotta lotta payback due for 2010-11-12-13. We aren't gonna get a lot of shots at it.

Hook'em

 

 

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2 hours ago, Tex Long said:

All things considered, I'd love to see him coach UNC into the CFP... and hope we get a shot at them. There's a lotta lotta payback due for 2010-11-12-13. We aren't gonna get a lot of shots at it.

They should mail these stickers out to anyone who owns a media guide so we can put them next to those years...

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